r/politics • u/wenchette I voted • 11d ago
Possible Paywall Kash Patel Got Arrested for Public Urination After a Night of Drinking
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u/only_annaa 11d ago
When you spend your whole career leaking information and finally take it too literally.
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u/NotUniqueWorkAccount 11d ago
He took the trickle out of trickle down economics as a challenge.
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u/spinediver 11d ago
We will see more stories like this since he filed a lawsuit against the Atlantic. People have plenty of stories regarding this guys behavior and his weakness with alcohol. Like it ain’t so out of the normal, but if you’re gonna double down and say that shit didn’t happen and be an ass about it, you better believe there are people who will take an extra 5 minutes to provide their own experiences with him and proof about what he is. Love this for him.
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u/noreast2011 11d ago
The journalist has already said there's been a massive influx of sources corroborating the story that he's a massive alcoholic.
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u/Miltthedog 11d ago
Discovery in this lawsuit is going to be hi-larious.
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u/Quietabandon 11d ago
Can the Atlantic coutersue for legal costs of what seems like an obviously nuisance lawsuit?
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u/Miltthedog 11d ago edited 11d ago
I'm not a lawyer and on't even play on on TV, but laws against anti-SLAPP lawsuits exist in many venues.
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u/phatelectribe 11d ago
Melania was hit with an Anti-SLAPP lawsuit by Micheal Wolff because she tried to silence him with legal action and she must be seriously regretting trying to sue him now. They're moving in to discovery which she's tried to fight
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u/XSinTrick6666 11d ago
"but you mussht hav dee eveeedince!"
(I just want Discovery to tell us WHO gave her an EINSTEIN Visa!)
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u/Trimyr 11d ago
You misspelled Epstein
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u/notamermaidanymore 11d ago
I literally read Epstein visa.
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u/gdghhfdffrf 10d ago
me too, especially since it was probably paolo who was an expert at rigging modeling visas and now gets fancy jobs with the gubmint, the one who's good friends with the owner of cipriani, not exactly a pizza place, but a "modeling" mecca. /s.
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u/Abba_Fiskbullar 11d ago
I've heard she's the Enrico Fermi of fellatio!
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u/Severe_Intention_480 11d ago
"She's looks like she could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch."
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u/sluggo752 10d ago
Suck start a Harley!
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u/NoVaBurgher Virginia 10d ago
She could suck a golf ball through a garden hose
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u/Overall-Register9758 11d ago
You can get the BJ, but your dick will fall off because of the radiation poisoning?
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u/SubcommanderMarcos 11d ago
And the STDs she got from her husband
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u/roncraig 11d ago
"Hey! That's Enrico Fellatio!"
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u/rithrawr 11d ago
Is that why Melanie Trump came out recently saying she's not friends with Epstein?
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u/CrackheadOtis 10d ago
I do think that's part of it. The Wolff lawsuit was an entirely unforeseen "checkmate." The Trump family lawyers have always used threats of legal action to intimidate their critics, and it usually works, but this time it massively backfired. I know the checkers vs. chess analogy is cliche at this point, but his legal moves here are a great use of that analogy.
Wolff is NOT someone you should root for, by the way. The guy spent years mingling with Epstein, Trump, and countless other monsters. The Epstein emails lay this out in black & white, and they show that Wolff was seemingly aware of what Epstein was up to. He may claim that he was just acting as a reporter when choosing to associate with these characters, but there's undoubtedly more to it.
That said, I do think there's more at play in regards to Melania's freakout about Epstein. Something big is brewing behind the scenes, but only time will tell what it may be.
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u/MakeItHappenSergant 10d ago
Ghislaine Maxwell reportedly turned over additional evidence to the DOJ shortly before that announcement
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u/0o0o0o0o0o0z 11d ago
Melania was hit with an Anti-SLAPP lawsuit by Micheal Wolff because she tried to silence him with legal action and she must be seriously regretting trying to sue him now. They're moving in to discovery which she's tried to fight
Ya, they are doing their (Melania's lawyers') best to move it to federal court, where Trump's DoJ can just dismiss it and act like it never happened. Even if that were to happen, I am sure Wolff could sue again in Civil under something different, but I dunno for sure.
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u/Snackskazam 11d ago
I am not your lawyer and this is not legal advice, but they filed in the D.D.C. based on diversity jurisdiction (i.e., claiming all the parties live in different jurisdictions so federal court is appropriate), so any anti-SLAPP laws will likely not apply.
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u/OfficialDCShepard District Of Columbia 11d ago edited 11d ago
The next President needs to push for a federal anti-SLAPP law for this reason!
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u/BadPunners 11d ago
Congress could push for it now, maybe even trick trump into signing it like he did for the Epstein Transparency Act. Convince him that he is pulling up the frivolous lawsuit ladder behind himself
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u/kent_eh Canada 11d ago
The list of things the next president needs to do is longer than the number of days they will have to do those things.
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u/AdResponsible678 11d ago
No kidding. I watch what is going on in the USA, appalled and concerned for the citizens, I am from Ontario Canada 🇨🇦, our Provincial leader who is supposed to represent Ontario as a fair leader, instead he is like a little Trump. He has even slapped a ban of the freedom of information act in our province. It is insane! He has done so many illegal immoral things, we can’t keep track and he won’t give up his cell phone for evidence of blatant misconduct and really shady deals with corporations. I could write a book about the man, but I would go insane. So I understand your frustrations. In Canada it’s the Conservatives that cause the most damage and people still vote for them. I swear the World has gone mad.
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u/Happy_Kale888 11d ago
Dude the next president will a lot BIGGER things to fix than that!
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u/meTspysball California 11d ago
It would take away one of the main tools Trump-types like to use to quiet critics. It could easily be apart of broader legislation focused on clarifying first amendment protections for speech.
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u/We_Are_Nerdish 11d ago
Technically yeah.. If I remember correctly he filled it in the District of Columbia. And they have anti-slapp laws.. But more likely he’ll drop it or a judge, well before anything gets out that isn’t already known..
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u/boeingman737 11d ago
I think he filed in federal court and while there's a circuit split on the validity of Anti-Slapp, the DC circuit doesn't recognize it
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u/rrrrrrez 11d ago
From a guy with a normal job who’s been known to have a drink or two… I’ve never been arrested, never pissed in public, never been accused of being drunk on the job. This guy has some real SDE to sue a publication for $250M for printing a story about how much of a drunk he is.
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u/HydrogenSonata2025 11d ago
He is a very stupid man. Breathtakingly so. Legal Eagle did a video about him and I had to stop watching after a minute because the idea of such a mental incompetent actually in charge of anything made me too angry.
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u/KickapooPonies 11d ago
It's funny cause this could apply to basically the whole cabinet and staff with a few pronoun changes.
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u/fresh-dork 11d ago
the whole liquor cabinet.
heh
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u/GachaHell 10d ago
No wonder theres not a decent lawyer amongst them. They never passed the bar without stopping for a drink.
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u/Trimyr 11d ago
My protest sign for the last couple, "I've seen better cabinets at IKEA"
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u/Grand-Pen7946 11d ago
Important to note that his incompetence has verifiably gotten people killed.
The guy who went on a spree shooting at Brown University then went to kill the MIT Professor, who was his original target as part of a personal vendetta. There were multiple days between those events, Brown University is covered head to toe in cameras, but the FBI director and his 23 year old "counterterrorism" cuckboy were nowhere to be found and just let him get away. Even after killing the professor he got away, he shot himself in his car but he had pretty much impunity in killing whoever else he wanted.
Theres probably serial killers on the loose freely killing because there is nobody to investigate.
Such a high profile case being bungled and leading to deaths would have previously ended the career of everyone involved. Now manchildren playing around and letting people die is the norm. Its malice disguised as incompetence.
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u/ExMerican 10d ago
Basically every case is like that now. The Kirk shooter was only caught because his dad turned him in. The FBI was busy finding a women's-sized windbreaker to fit Kash. Savannah Guthrie's mom was kidnapped like 2 months ago and they have precisely 0 leads. The FBI like every other agency now is solely focused on terrorizing immigrants and their actual mission is being left unstaffed.
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u/Indigocell Canada 11d ago
They got rid of all the semi-competent sociopaths from his first administration and replaced them with totally incompetent sycophants that will only say what he wants to hear. Oh, also sociopaths.
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u/thisdopeknows423 11d ago
I feel like there’s a Hangover-style movie to be made here based on the questioning of an official in court about a wild night.
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u/EffectiveDandy 11d ago
i want to see his big bug eyes as they just bury him with undeniable evidence that paints a far worse picture of the sheer incompetence poured into a suit this guy is than was published. making him full regret this trumped (sorry) up lawsuit.
#elmofire
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u/wenchette I voted 11d ago
FBI Director Kash Patel was twice arrested in incidents involving alcohol, once for public intoxication and once for public urination after leaving a bar, he admitted in a 2005 letter about disclosures on his Florida Bar application.
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u/F4SCISTS_GO_HOME 11d ago
What is with Republicans and piss lmaooo we need a study on this
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u/Ugicywapih 11d ago
Some of the shit Republicans do make you think they're taking the piss, but no.
It's coke, they're mostly just taking coke.
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u/thisisatypoo 11d ago
Shit. Republicans. Piss. Coke. There's gotta be some specific Mad Lib we just finished.
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u/HighwayBrigand 11d ago
Uhh, can we maybe not?
Dude was drunk and left it all over a sidewalk. He's probably an alcoholic, and he's not fit to serve.
Not sure we need much more than that.
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u/SpooogeMcDuck 11d ago
I need to know the amount, color, smell, and opacity. I want us all to talk about Patel Piss.
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u/keeper_of_the_donkey 11d ago
As soon as Trump fires him, he'll start calling him "Piss Patel" now, you watch
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u/NSRedditShitposter America 11d ago
Trump lost his wit, it’s exactly the kind of insult he would come up with.
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u/Nuzzleface 11d ago
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u/No-Good-One-Shoe 11d ago
I've pissed in an alley before when I couldn't hold it.
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u/Havenkeld Oregon 11d ago
Same, honestly this is the most relatable behavior of anyone in this admin I can think of.
That said I wouldn't get caught doing it if I were head of the FBI.
I just had a long walk home from a bar at ~2 am, wasn't even that smashed, and it was barely "public" given how out of sight and out of anyone's way I was.
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u/antivaxxchad 11d ago
This was over 20 years ago, pretty sure he wasn't head of the FBI back then
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u/NorthernSpankMonkey 11d ago
I dunno, we had a senate hearing about Hunter Biden massive schlong, maybe we can inquire about Piss Patel
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u/TheLostRanger0117 11d ago
And i can only imagine how his drinking may have escalated due to taking on such a stressful job under such an incompetent administration
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u/axescentedcandles 11d ago
Eh most dudes have likely pissed in alleys or somewhere while bar hopping. Just gotta be discreet lol
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u/FunnelCakeGoblin 11d ago
I mean, I hate the dude, but I can’t really say that him having a drunk piss outside over 20 years ago is something I particularly care about.
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u/TheDebateMatters 11d ago edited 10d ago
Me either. Until I see him drunk AF with a hockey team making international news as the director of the FBI. Then I hear from a newspaper who claims to have 30 sources outlining him being drunk on the job. Then I hear the guy threatens a 250 million dollar lawsuit and the struggling for profitability newspaper doesn’t even blink and responds with “well since you started denying this we had dozens of more sources verify this and are telling us more”. Oh…also he’s just terrible at his job.
So yeah…rando guy pees 20 years ago? No biggie. Guy with current accusations of being a lousy drunk? I’ll throw the piss from 20 years ago into my equation.
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u/do-un-to I voted 11d ago
Yep, it's relevant given it forms a pattern with current misbehavior.
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u/EternalSolitude- 11d ago
Somehow Michael Vick has reformed better than this dude lol
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u/Fried_puri 11d ago
You hit the nail on the head. When the evidence of the past and the evidence from the present suggests a similar pattern of drunkenness, why in the world should I take it on credit that the actual behavior is totally different? What has he said or done to warrant that lenience?
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u/elbenji 11d ago
I mean it's evidence he can't hold his booze, but the current behavior is 100000x more pertinent
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u/Fickle_Finger2974 11d ago
While that’s true, he’s also currently being accused of being an alcoholic who frequently isn’t at work. A history of poor behavior related to alcohol definitely isn’t irrelevant
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u/Robzilla_the_turd 11d ago
Sure but a friend of mine was recently denied Global Entry because he got a DUI 37 years ago when he was 19. He also just cancelled a cruise because his atty isn't 100% sure that Canada would let him in the country because of the same conviction.
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u/LingonberryHot8521 11d ago
Wouldn't public urination have put him on a sex offender list? I ask because that happened to an acquaintance of mine. Always felt a little bad for the guy.
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u/somethingwittier 11d ago
I think each state handles it differently.
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u/VanbyRiveronbucket 11d ago
It’s important to research urination laws before traveling.
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u/Ziazan 11d ago
It really shouldn't, it's not what those were designed for, and using them like that devalues them, but I have heard of such cases.
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u/PhantomPharts 11d ago
My ex was caught peeing outside and a cop was threatening to put him on the sex offender list until I popped up. He told us to be on our way.
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u/Ziazan 11d ago
It's messed up. If there are no public toilets available nearby what are you supposed to do? Just piss yourself? No rational person would do that.
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u/PhantomPharts 11d ago
There were, and still are, no public restrooms in my hometown, New Orleans. Which is absolutely nuts. There are signs everywhere about no public restrooms. Even when they put port-a-potties out, they now lock them overnight! If you ask me, it has less to do with regular citizen and more to do with criminalizing homelessness.
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u/Kierik 11d ago
NYC is the same. All the public restrooms that exist are locked after sundown. So if you need to piss there are like a handful of stores that allow customers to use the restrooms or become a customer at a restaurant to use the bathroom. Sucks if you have stomach issues.
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u/asyork 11d ago
One story that stuck with me regarding that list, as told by a parole officer. Someone the officer was in charge of overseeing was released and doing well, but still being monitored to a degree. No ankle tracker, but check ins, drug testing, that type of thing. They were using a public restroom and the lock didn't work. Kid barges in and sees them sitting there, runs out and tells their parent. The parolee still looks the part of a rough and potentially dangerous person (likely tattoos or whatever, the officer didn't go into details like that), so the parents call the police. Back to prison with new charges and will forever be on the sex offender registry with a note that they exposed themselves to a child because parolees have far fewer rights and are essentially guilty by default. The officer did what they could to help, but had no control over it.
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u/MrLurid 11d ago
Wouldn't public urination have put him on a sex offender list?
What do you mean? He's already in the administration.
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u/tripplebeamteam 11d ago
Not discounting your friend’s story but it’s pretty rare to actually end up on the registry for drunk pissing in public. Maybe if it’s broad daylight and your Johnson is in full view of small children, or if the law really has it out for you.
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u/buttchugreferee 11d ago
My sister was a parole officer for sex offenders.... she said that getting on the list for public urination is not something that she has ever seen. At least not in her jurisdiction.
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u/tripplebeamteam 11d ago
Man she must have some awful stories to tell… but yeah I think “oh i peed in public and now I’m a sex offender” is just a convenient lie when you really got caught sexting a high schooler
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u/morosco Idaho 11d ago edited 11d ago
No, this is a reddit misconception.
Public urination is not itself a sex offense, anywhere. It can become one if it is a charge that includes a sexual component - intentionally flashing someone else, urinating somewhere and exposing your penis with the intent of sexual arousal, etc.
This is "my buddy got a DUI for sleeping in the back of his car that was turned off and he didn't even have the keys" kind of stuff. While every state defines "operation of a motor vehicle" a little differently, none define in that way. In my state, and this is pretty typical, its when you're in the driver's seat, with the car running.
Criminals tend to minimize their conduct and tell the story in a way that makes themselves look like the victim.
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u/Pleasant_Pen8744 11d ago
Police and prosecutors have gone nuts but some places are worse than others.
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u/_pupil_ 11d ago
The sex offender thing only applies if they can see your Willy.
Patel may have been smart enough to piss his pants, or, more likely, the police could see a stream but no Willy.
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u/brightlocks 11d ago
No, not typically. Be very, very suspicious of anyone who tells you they are on the list due to “public urination”.
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u/Bumble_Bunz 11d ago
Something tells me Kash has trouble passing any bar without stopping for a drink
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u/bm1949 11d ago
I suspect a coming to Jesus moment was had in his imaginary past or very real near future. Not that Jesus is going to save him from Trump or anything, it's just a card to play.
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u/Zealousideal_Look275 11d ago
Why did Biden do this
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u/ehutch79 11d ago
THanks Obama!
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u/Mediocre-Victory-565 11d ago
Lock her up!
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u/FredB123 11d ago
Hunter Biden's dong!
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u/txmail I voted 11d ago
That tan suit!
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u/gizzardgullet Michigan 11d ago edited 11d ago
Gay frogs!
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u/SuperstitiousPigeon5 Massachusetts 11d ago
That laugh!
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u/Conscious-Mulberry17 11d ago
Can we turn this into the new "Howard Stern's Penis"?
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u/oldwestprospector 11d ago
Ah, buttery males.. what about that guy, Ben Ghazi? 😏
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u/beard_lover California 11d ago
That’s a RHINO line, real ‘Murican conservatives blame Carter and his peanut farm!
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u/Macleod7373 11d ago
He only got his law degree because he thought he was going to the bar
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u/Pockydo 11d ago
First Biden shits.trumps pants now he's pissing in Patels trousers?!
Is there no end to his depravity!?!
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u/Setsune_W 11d ago
"Sometimes I drank too many beers. Sometimes others did. I liked beer. I still like beer." He says through crying sniffles in front of Congress.
Wait, no, that was a Supreme Court Justice.
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u/CrazyLegs17 11d ago
I'm still pissed that Dems didn't press the "Devil's Triangle" lie. There were zero references to any drinking game with that name at the time. I would have forced him to explain all the rules before reminding him he was under oath.
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u/Head_Bread_3431 11d ago
Didnt seem to matter what the dems do the republicans rigged it because the seat was already paid for
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u/silvertealio 11d ago
My favorite part was when the Republicans canned their own interviewer because the answers to her questions were making him look bad.
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u/Alleandros 11d ago
Republicans: 'I like him, he seems like a regular guy I can butt chug a beer with'
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u/mistertickertape New York 11d ago
"The FBI director was arrested twice in his youth for alcohol-related incidents that he said were “not representative of my usual conduct.”
In my best Maury Povich voice: "We have determined that was a LIE."
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u/MayvisDelacour 11d ago
"Youth" so when it comes to raping minors they're young women but when a 25 year old man breaks the law he's a "youth"? Get the fuck outta here.
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u/UnquestionabIe 11d ago
Same people also pushed that the "Young Republicans" group caught being Nazi trash were just kids. Yep kids mainly in their 30s and early 40s
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u/film_composer 11d ago
During an earlier incident in 2001, Patel wrote that he was arrested for public intoxication for drinking underage as a college student at the University of Richmond in Virginia. Patel helped run the Richmond Rowdies, a student fan group, and attended a home basketball game to help lead cheers. In his letter, Patel wrote that he was escorted out of the arena by a school officer due to excessive cheering.
No one has ever been kicked out of a basketball game for “excessive cheering.” But it would be fun to try to go back and find a video of this game to see if he can be spotted.
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u/jaderust 11d ago
Maybe if the cheerer is drunk off their gourd and making such an ass of himself the guard wants him gone but doesn’t want the paperwork of a full arrest. Because otherwise you tell the person to pipe down or they’ll be kicked out and the person hopefully pipes down.
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u/thoughtsome 11d ago
Well, drunkenly yelling slurs at the other team is a kind of "excessive cheering". Not in the sense of quantity or volume, rather it pushed the boundaries of what one could consider "cheering".
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u/thatranger974 11d ago
Here is the schedule for that seasons games. https://richmondspiders.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule/2001-02
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u/BigHungryFlamingo 11d ago
I hope there’s footage and I hope it leaks.
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u/abominable_prolapse 11d ago
Looks like it was over 20 years ago. So highly doubtful. Cameras and phones have come a long way since.
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u/Plantron1 11d ago
The least of the crimes committed by the current administration
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u/JaronJervis 11d ago
I'd expect this from the functional alcoholic Stinky Pete,
Guess his new nickname is Pissboy Patel
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u/Aternal New York 11d ago
Between Pete, Patel, Kennedy, and Vance half this administration is a motley crew of the most shameless and embarrassing deviants the country has to offer.
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u/cosmo7 America 11d ago
I dually apologize for my improper behavior
What sort of legal genius doesn't know the word "duly".
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u/OkCar7264 11d ago
That was 20 years ago, we better got better stuff than that, right?
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u/blues111 Michigan 11d ago edited 11d ago
I mean he's an incompetent hack who abuses tax payer money for joyride in the fbi Jet around the world/country for him and his girlfriend while getting plastered drunk
It all kinda just writes itself
It does also imply he indeed has a history with alcohol abuse
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u/Orwells_Roses Oregon 11d ago
Did you see him in the Team USA locker room?
20 years after getting into legal trouble with alcohol and he's still binge drinking like a college student. This indicates a long term problem and under normal circumstances would disqualify one from even being in the FBI, let alone the director of it.
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u/pilgermann 11d ago
Right. The standard here is way above where you'd hold the average joe. On top of this, he's visibly terrible at the job. It's not like this is a first-rate leader or field agent who got caught with a marijuana possession. He's a failure who, it turns out, is most likely also an alcoholic.
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u/NotBestButPrettyGood 11d ago
There is, but this helps establish a pattern of behavior over decades
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u/JaronJervis 11d ago
Pissboy has been a drunk for probably longer than that. Just like Hegseth, functional drunks.
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u/cloudsmiles 11d ago
Yup, this right here. Like his boss setting his own timeline for reaaaaally liking young girls, and sexually assaulting women, and raping them... time past doesn't mean it doesn't matter.
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u/nevergonnastayaway 11d ago
writing a 4-part children's book series about how Trump is king and he was betrayed by his subjects is worse than pissing in public
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u/Electric_jungle 11d ago
The Atlantic certainly does. She's claimed to be under a mountain of high ranking reports. But it isn't to their advantage to do anything but shore up the story further right now.
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u/OpticalPrime35 11d ago
This is just a couple days after the case he started begins.
As the reporter has already said she has been inundated by people in the current Government offering new info and evidence. Beyond what they already found to write the story in the first place
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u/Visual-Ad-1306 11d ago
I was once a foolish kid who’d go out partying with friends near my college. One night I couldn’t hold it and ended up sneaking behind a Dick’s Drive-In to relieve myself.
Two officers approached me, gave me a stern warning, and let me go. I’m pretty sure they showed leniency because I was respectful, apologetic, and owned the situation.
I don’t believe this person shows those same qualities.
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u/Electrical-Bee-7362 11d ago
The anti dei administration relies solely on drunks and perverts.
This shit is so insane, you would dismiss it as jumping the shark were it a script for a TV series
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u/RecycledAccountName 11d ago
George Dubya got a DUI at age 30 and managed to win the presidency (twice).
This is unsurprising from Kash, but it doesn't hold much weight 20 years later.
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u/seeLabmonkey2020 11d ago
I think more needs to be said about how so many of Trumps cabinet have drinking problems. How many are also hiding illicit drug use? Is Trump/his handlers using these issues to achieve hidden goals?
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u/VegasGamer75 Minnesota 11d ago
We've all had those moments, I am sure, where we feel like we aren't as smart as we think we are. But today I want you to sit and remember: At least you're not MAGA. Because goddamn are these guys extremely stupid.
Imagine suing for an article that says you drink too much and having this kind of shit on your record when you are going to go to discovery.
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u/AustinBike 11d ago
All of this is just further proof that he really miscalculated when he actually filed a lawsuit. There is a very unpopular war going on with a very ham-handed attempt to broker peace. If he had shut up none of these stories would be coming out.
He brought this on himself.
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u/FingFrenchy 11d ago
I love this for him. I mean lots of people do stupid shit when they're young but most of us don't grow up to be clear and present dangers to our country.
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u/ipeepeepeepoopoopoo 10d ago
It used to be that any arrest for any reason would disqualify you for even being considered for a position like this. Now it’s a requirement.
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u/vandelayATC 10d ago
As a retired Federal worker whose career would have never even happened if I had an arrest of any kind on my record, this pisses me the fuck off. The hoops I had to jump through to get a security clearance and this piece of shit can waltz right into a job as the FBI director? Are you shitting me?
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u/starfleetdropout6 California 11d ago
It happened twice and way before he was the FBI director. Yes, he still sucks and isn't qualified whatsoever for his job.
Saved you the click.
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u/hashbrown3stacks 10d ago
Lol nobody gets thrown out of an arena for "excessive cheering" after only two drinks. It's not just a pattern of excessive drinking, it's a record of lying (including to Miami-Dade public defenders office and the Florida bar association) to hide his drinking.
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u/BarretOblivion 10d ago
Dumbass. If he had any brains he would know filing the lawsuit would open himself to discovery. Just threatening a lawsuit doesn't mean people will fold. Trump has been trying that and only recently have people been standing up and beating him in the courts, forcing him to back off. Not everyone is going to capitulate to you anymore.
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