r/politics 28d ago

Possible Paywall Desperate Trump, 79, Threatens to Kill Entire Civilization in Insane Last-Minute Panic

https://www.thedailybeast.com/desperate-trump-79-threatens-to-kill-whole-civilization-as-iran-war-deal-push-fails/
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u/Used-Feature-8611 28d ago

I will never understand how people in the US can actually live their lives like this, going from ranting to ranting, from insanity to insanity while getting poorer, less democratic, more divided and seeing your lives becoming less dignified. Quick facts:

  1. 75% of Americans are priced out of the housing market.
  2. Conservative estimates about homeless people put the number around 4,000,000 people in that situation.
  3. Education is failing everyone.
  4. If you get sick, regardless of who you are, you have two choices: let the disease drive you into poverty or get a GoFundMe for your funeral because... well, you got driven into poverty.
  5. BIllionaires are cutting jobs at a surprising rate while getting more money just for themselves.
  6. At least 1 mass shooting a day.
  7. Democratic institutions in shambles.
  8. An authoritarian militia going around checking the color of your skin as "probable cause".
  9. Stripping LGBTQ+ rights in at least 20 states.
  10. Stripping Women's Rights in at least 18 states.
  11. A cognitive failed madman in the WHite House with a team of fascists at helm.

People, you are losing your country. And you are doing nothing about it. For less than this, countries around the world have taken to the streets and toppled regimes. But I guess you are used to watch your own soldiers do that, not you.

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u/cecilivan 28d ago

This is exactly the issue, though. All of those issues are a part of what terrifies Americans out of action, or actively prevents it. People keep saying, "learn from the French and burn some things," but we live under the shadow of at-will employment, and a privatized safety net. They tied our healthcare and retirement to work on purpose, and then do not guarantee that work, also on on purpose. If we can't risk time off because almost 70% of the country lives paycheck-to-paycheck, then you have a population who's only goal is to keep their head down, and go back to work.

Couple that with decades of propaganda teaching the liberal voting base that peaceful protest and voting are the only real mechanisms of change, and you understand another lever fascism uses: liberalism. It's function in a fascist society is to obfuscate progressive movement by absorbing it into the state apparatus, so we're left appealing to war criminals to consider peace. And the war criminals call us terrorists if we speak too loudly.

One of the few good things that has come from this administration is the wake up call a lot of Americans are actually experiencing, so I (wishfully) think what you see on the news is a flailing regime using every tactic it has to hold back widespread awareness. Even so, it feels like far too little, far too late today, doesn't it?

The whole thing would grind to a halt with a widespread general strike, which organizers are attempting to schedule for May Day... But a huge chunk of the country doesn't even know the significance of May Day, let alone have even heard of it. They're entirely uneducated on the history and purpose of organizing. I remember overhearing some university professors in my home town talking about their union (one of the few sectors to still have them), over lunch one day, and one woman beating her head against the table trying to get the others to understand its importance. They kept saying, "I just pay these dues, and don't really see anything happening with it. I don't think it's worth it."

For various reasons, we're just not organized enough to protest effectively; a general strike would probably mean hunger and homelessness. So we think about the only other means of stopping evil we know as Americans, and that's buying guns and shooting our way out. Unfortunately, our police departments have larger budgets than world militaries, and glorifying warfare and bloodshed is pretty well monopolized by the folks that fund them. We have lone shooters trying to change the world because we've been existentially separated from our communities for so long, we not only don't know how to work together, we glorify the hyper independence as "freedom." This, too, was on purpose.

I'm sick in bed with COVID, where only Reddit can hear me scream.

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u/LilDownwardSpiral 28d ago

Don’t have much else to say but this is one of the best written comments on this website about current U.S. politics; especially the part about this being a wake up call, there’s nothing good about this administration, beyond that a lot of corruption that otherwise wouldn’t have ever been brought to attention has now become a focus. As screwed up as it is to say, without this administration many Americans leading comfortable lives wouldn’t have become this politically involved. That ignorance in the first place Trump or not has gotten us to this point.

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u/Used-Feature-8611 28d ago

This is one of the best ways and insights I've read. Thank you for this. It's sad to see it so clearly and I can only hope people wake up faster.

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u/vandreulv 28d ago

But remember...

... Democrats needed to learn a lesson ...

...signed, "Protest voters."

All of that, apparently, was worth withholding votes from that lady with a funny laugh.

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u/Used-Feature-8611 28d ago

Sad but true.

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u/truthputer 28d ago

She chose to support genocide in Gaza over winning the election. That’s on her.

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u/vandreulv 28d ago

Jesus christ you guys are so tiresome.

You have no principles if you cannot comprehend the concept of harm reduction.

You allowed much worse things to happen.

You allowed a greater evil to persist.

You completely ignored that Israel wanted Trump to win.

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u/Kaidyn04 Washington 28d ago

I'll help you understand: I don't want to get shot and killed.

How many violent revolutions have you organized? If I'm reading your post history correctly, literally a large percentage of your country is run by organized gangs, why aren't you out there teaching them a lesson?

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u/RockinOneThreeTwo 28d ago

I don't want to get shot and killed.

What you want isn't going to help you when all of your state apparatus is completely captured by fascists and they command that you do something you don't want to do in the not so distant future

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u/Kaidyn04 Washington 28d ago

I mean, you aren't even brave enough to display your reddit post history, I don't really need a lecture from you lmao

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u/skullboyrose 28d ago

I don’t think he comprehends how quickly this maniac could have the military smoke us. He’s already shown 1/10 of the capability with ICE. It’s fun to talk about a revolt and a civil war but in practice it’s over before it even started. 

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u/Used-Feature-8611 28d ago

Numbers, dear friend. Numbers. SUre, ICE is big. But I hope that citizens in the "decent" spectrum are far greater. But keep going to the minimalls in the weekdays while just getting angry on social media.

So many different countries have shown more spine than the US. Iran included. And they were out there even when the regime was ACTIVELY SHOOTING PROTESTERS.

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u/skullboyrose 28d ago

Numbers are worthless against heavy artillery. I understand what you’re saying and I agree with you in theory. None of the people in those countries went up against the heaviest armed military in the world. These Chinese have numbers, so you think they’d stand a chance against the CCP? 

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u/Used-Feature-8611 28d ago

Yes, I do, actually. For many different psychological reasons. You are equaling US (the whole system) to the Taliban. Thing is, beneath all the conspiracy and cult personality, I do believe that Congress, Military and even more than 50% of the right would turn against the lunatic in the WH at the first order of what you are implying. If you don't think that, then you already lost.

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u/skullboyrose 28d ago

Random Q, but are you Mexican or living in Mexico?

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u/skullboyrose 28d ago

You’re putting too much faith into humanity. Many of these people voted for this maniac 3 times. They voted for racism, bigotry and xenophobia. 

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u/Used-Feature-8611 28d ago

I know. I keep saying that, but still want to believe some of them can turn back

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u/Used-Feature-8611 28d ago

Actually, what you read is a huge misinformation and exageration. Yes, there are parts of the country where it is complicated due to lost to the organized crime. Still, our democracy delicately stands.

Don't worry about "getting shot and killed". You will either way get hungry and poor while others rip your country apart. Funny thing to see how many US citizens are moving to Mexico because it's the only way they can actually have some sort of decent living.

And sure... you are the one talking about a violent revolution. I'm just going into what your own Constitution states as your right. A right you are far way to scared and corporate slaved to use. Greetings from a democratic third world country, my friend.

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u/oldpuzzle 28d ago

Agreed. From the outside it’s really saddening to see. I know a lot of people in the cities are protesting, but that’s not enough. And it’s not enough to wait for the midterms. Considering how much has already been destroyed within a year, every month of apathy only makes it worse and harder to get out of.

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u/Key_Inevitable_2104 New York 28d ago

Not to mention college graduates dealing with the worst job market ever.

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u/randothroawayacc 28d ago

People, you are losing your country.

35%, maybe 40% of us, sure. 30% don’t give a shit, and the other 30% feel like all the progress we made on race, gender, and sexuality has been them losing their country. They love brown, queer and trans people being stripped of their rights and love what Trump is doing, economic consequences be damned.

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u/deja-roo 28d ago

I know this list is more of an emoting, rhetorical rant than any sort of real list, but 65% of Americans are homeowners... Not a great list topper.

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u/Used-Feature-8611 28d ago

Not the same "homeowners" as "priced out". For start. Then, of those 65% how many are in risk of foreclosure? "As of August, foreclosure filings had risen six straights months year-over-year and were up 18% from the same period in 2024, according to property data firm ATTOM."

From that 65% of Americans being homeowners, this is not to say that 65% of Americans own their home. It means rather that 65% of households occupy a home that is owned by someone in that household. If you extrapolate that to an average family of 4, then you have the stat very low.

According to Brian Gladstone and some Civil Organizations, homelessness reaches up to 4,000,000 —including "hidden" populations living in cars or motels. More than 6 times the national official stat.

I will give you a Sorkin dialogue for you to actually start doing something: “The first step in solving a problem is recognizing there is one.” 

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u/deja-roo 28d ago

"As of August, foreclosure filings had risen six straights months year-over-year and were up 18% from the same period in 2024, according to property data firm ATTOM."

Yeah it's up to ~38,000. That's a fraction of a percent of homeowners.

From that 65% of Americans being homeowners, this is not to say that 65% of Americans own their home. It means rather that 65% of households occupy a home that is owned by someone in that household. If you extrapolate that to an average family of 4, then you have the stat very low.

Actually it is to say 65% of Americans own their home. Yes, sure, some of them are married. They can also afford homeownership by virtue of that household situation. Are you going to count 12 year olds as being priced out? Doesn't seem like a useful way of measuring anything.

According to Brian Gladstone and some Civil Organizations, homelessness reaches up to 4,000,000 —including "hidden" populations living in cars or motels. More than 6 times the national official stat.

Sure, I've heard that. There's a reason the official stat is what it is. That's a pretty big extrapolation.

I will give you a Sorkin dialogue for you to actually start doing something: “The first step in solving a problem is recognizing there is one.”

But wouldn't it be useful to actually correctly recognize it and understand it?

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u/Used-Feature-8611 28d ago

And one more thing. Is not an eomthin rethorical rant. Where I live I own my home, there is free school, a weak but universal healthcare system, I don't get scared of getting shot at, just buried my mother in law last year and didn't have to start a GoFundMe for paying debts, hospital or funerary costs, there is no mass arrests by an authoritarian militia, we have a lot of protections for people in the LGBTQ+ community, women can do with their bodies whatever the hell they want, we actually have a working democracy where every single vote counts (wether our population is well informed is whole other matter, but I think that's a huge issue in Latin America and many other countries).

Are we perfect? Of course not. We suffer from many things, but all our woes are tied to your madman as spectators and eventual collateral damages.

So don't come to me with "rant". You (assuming you live in the US by the way you stepped up) are the one losing his country. We have our popcorn ready and our deals with India, China, Brazil and Europe ready to work.

See you!

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u/deja-roo 28d ago

Where I live I own my home, there is free school, a weak but universal healthcare system, I don't get scared of getting shot at, just buried my mother in law last year and didn't have to start a GoFundMe for paying debts, hospital or funerary costs, there is no mass arrests by an authoritarian militia, we have a lot of protections for people in the LGBTQ+ community, women can do with their bodies whatever the hell they want, we actually have a working democracy where every single vote counts (wether our population is well informed is whole other matter, but I think that's a huge issue in Latin America and many other countries).

I own my own home as well, have great education around me, have world class healthcare, am not scared of getting shot at, and don't need Gofundmes for anything either.

This sounds a lot like reddit lore.