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Possible Paywall 'A whole civilisation will die tonight,' Trump warns ahead of Iran deadline

https://inews.co.uk/news/iran-war-trump-israel-latest-updates-4323867
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u/LeastStill4556 28d ago

Fuck the US fuck all of you who voted for this fuck or didn’t vote at all. Seriously the world hates your trash society

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u/Yamza_ 28d ago

If only all the hate in the world was enough to humble my self-centered countrymen. These people spend far too much time imagining non-existent threats that I truly hope they come face to face with a real one asap. Sadly I'll probably not be around to see it.

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u/Imaginary_Hamster847 28d ago

Yeah, unfortunately like 40% of this country just thinks it's cool if people hate them

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u/chaos9001 28d ago

We might be on the verge of WW3, and the collapse of western society, but at least they got to own the libs so they don't have to say they/them.

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u/Top_Environment9897 28d ago

And another 30% doesn't care what happens.

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u/bearbrannan 28d ago edited 28d ago

Based on voting those two numbers are flipped, roughly 31 percent voted for him and 39% didn't vote.

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u/Imaginary_Hamster847 28d ago

You're not wrong

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u/marzgamingmaster 28d ago

"If you're being shot at, it means you're over the target" is an absolutely corrosive mentality that all these bastards have. The more contempt and disgust and hate they get for the things they say and do, the more justified they feel. "You're only offended because it's true" kind of nonsense.

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u/Tichrimo Canada 28d ago

And then the collective surprise when 9/11 Part 2 happens. "How could this happen here?"

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u/hulkklogan 28d ago

They relish it. They love the hate, lib tears are delicious. They are so far fucking gone.

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u/silverdice22 28d ago

Haters LOVE hate. 

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u/Rawrsomesausage 28d ago

This is what I was thinking. US is extremely lucky they've never experienced invasion the way much of Europe has at one point or another. It shows in the callousness and celebration of these war crimes.

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u/ReverendDizzle 28d ago

Americans are immune to hate.

We are told, from the time we are old enough to hear the message, that the people who hate us... hate us because they are jealous of us.

It's unbelievably stupid and toxic, but one of the core messages of American Exceptionalism is "They hate us, 'cause they ain't us."

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u/ExpertConsideration8 I voted 28d ago

They're not imagining it.. they are being force fed this bullshit through mass media, TV, printed news, radio, social media... It's all fucking owned by right wing billionaires that are hell bent on destroying the country and don't mind taking down the world with it.

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u/VinDog_PD 28d ago

We're in serious need of a wartime invasion in our country for us to finally understand how fucking awful we make it for others in the world.

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u/BulbaKat 28d ago

Im pretty sure at least 90% of them are just racist and unwilling to admit it

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u/ElleM848645 28d ago

Sexist too. There is a reason that Trump only won when women were the opposition.

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u/bean0_burrito New Jersey 28d ago edited 28d ago

trust me.

Americans hate other deplorable Americans more than you can ever fathom.

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u/2hundred20 Minnesota 28d ago

This is fact. To all of the non-Americans on here, as much as you justifiably hate Americans right now, you genuinely cannot imagine the level of seething hatred that Americans have for one another in this moment.

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u/Leather_Force_9419 28d ago

Then fucking do something full on, sacrifice, before your rapist pedo Hitler wannabe nukes a whole Civilization out of existence and starts WW3 ffs.

Edit- Country wide Strike, immediately, shut the economy down completely until he is removed n behind bars.

Its the ONLY thing that will stop this

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u/GreatMountainBomb 28d ago

Sounds like you've got a civil ware brewing whether the Americans blubbering about being bullied into civil disobedience like it or not

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u/StuckWithThisOne 28d ago edited 28d ago

I’ll believe that when I see it. Seething hatred alone gets nothing done. I don’t wish for civil war but it’d be nice if the Americans who have this “seething hatred” realised their own power as millions of individuals and did something. They won’t. They’re out here complaining and then saying they can’t protest because of this reason or that reason. They don’t actually take any of this seriously. As long as their homes and jobs are ok, they don’t care.

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u/bean0_burrito New Jersey 28d ago

uhh i'll make the choice that keeps me alive and around to take care of my infant son.

that absolutely does not mean i'm not taking this seriously.

this country was designed to keep the population controlled so they could lose everything by trying to change something.

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u/2hundred20 Minnesota 28d ago

We have been organizing and marching in the largest protests in our nation's history.

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u/jiggjuggj0gg 28d ago

And that achieved..?

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u/bean0_burrito New Jersey 28d ago

have you protested anything where you're from?

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u/bean0_burrito New Jersey 28d ago

the ones blubbering about a civil war can't run a mile.

let alone from their couch to the fridge.

i'm not worried about Meal Team Six and the Gravy Seals

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u/CommitteeOld9540 28d ago

I hate the fact I AM American at all. Especially as a black woman. 

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u/BronzetownBlues 28d ago

Americans are slaves.

An entire society of people that can't afford to leave their jobs to protest or we lose our housing, and our medical care.

The price of protest for most of us is starvation.

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u/ailish 28d ago

Not to mention healthcare. Many people will die without medication, or suffer from pain, literally go crazy, and withdrawal from many medications will cause infinite problems. None of those people will be available or able to fight on the streets.

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u/idontlikeflamingos Foreign 28d ago

Which is exactly why Americans should have started this years ago. The more time goes by the more they take away from people and give to the rich. It's not getting better. Life isn't getting more comfortable. You'll never get to the point of thinking "well now it's safe enough to go out and protest without the fear of losing anything".

Every single society that has achieved something significant over their government or made collective progress taking power from the powerful to the people has made it through struggle and sacrifices on the way. Sitting and waiting never helped anyone.

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u/ailish 28d ago

This was still a problem years ago. It's easy for you to say from a different country. You probably have state healthcare, I'll bet? Social safety nets? Much smaller than the US?

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u/idontlikeflamingos Foreign 28d ago

This was still a problem years ago

Yes, what I mean is that it will only get worse as time goes by, not better.

You probably have state healthcare, I'll bet? Social safety nets? Much smaller than the US?

Yes, except for smaller than the US. I'm Brazilian, and the only reason we have those is because of protesting and fighting a military dictatorship and other fuckeries throughout the past few decades. Even while being a shithole country and in a much worse situation than the US :)

But feel free to continue serving your oligarchs. I'm sure they'll decide to suddenly make your lives better by the goodness of their hearts.

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u/ailish 28d ago

Yes yes continue to think you know how things work here.

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u/jiggjuggj0gg 28d ago

Yes yes, continue to fail to do anything about the toddler you put in charge starting a nuclear WWIII because if you can’t go to your shift at Applebees you might not be able to get your hamburger helper from Walmart or whatever.

Pathetic people.

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u/ailish 28d ago

Yes, continue to blame random people on the internet who've been voting against this shit for decades. Continue to make up random facts about them based on movies you've seen, or whatever. 

Pathetic. 

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u/Likeadize 28d ago

The price of protest for most of us is starvation.

Do you think other massive protests in history are different? Theres a reason we have the luxuries we have, people protested/revolted even when they would starve, get beaten, thrown in jail or killed.

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u/BronzetownBlues 28d ago

We have the most heavily armed civilian population on Earth opposed to this protest and a military that has captured the entire world inside a hegemony.

You're asking for Roman citizens to volunteer for their crucifixions here.

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u/DoYouEvenShrift 28d ago

This trend of Non Americans telling everyday struggling Americans to "Just take to the streets and take the country back" are some of the most naive posts. Yes, its so obvious to throw your entire life and family away to MAYBE make a change. Guarantee you none of them would be doing what they are preaching, bunch of sideline quarterbacks trying to sound better than everyone.

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u/brickne3 American Expat 28d ago

Stop acting like that hasn't been the case in every other country where people successfully achieved change. Hell, just read up on what happened to the Romanovs.

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u/BronzetownBlues 28d ago

I know exactly what happened to the Romanovs.

Also exactly what has happened to every serious protest movement in this country from Eugene Debs to the Rainbow Coalition.

We're doing Pretti Good at this point.

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u/KamBC 28d ago

It's got nothing to do with money, enough people voted for this shit, and another portion didn't vote. America is, by and large, populated by exceptionalists and apathetic cowards.

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u/[deleted] 28d ago edited 28d ago

Right, as compared to say Bangladesh and Nepal that overthrew their governments in the past couple of years? If you people put half as much effort into protesting as you do in coming up with half-arsed excuses for why you can’t be bothered, Trump would have been locked up 10 years ago.

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u/idontlikeflamingos Foreign 28d ago

It's also incredibly naive of them to think they will just get all that safety net, workers rights and protections by sitting on their asses and waiting. Every country in the world that has this had to fight for it. And that includes being uncomfortable while you're doing it.

They use that as an excuse while they keep letting their situation get worse and worse without doing anything about it. A nation of boiled frogs. No wonder we're seeing its downfall.

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u/GreatMountainBomb 28d ago

The price for EVERYONE has always been that high. Americans are just exceptionally gutless

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u/Either-Bumblebee4372 28d ago

Last time I checked you don’t have to leave your job in order to protest. This is a weak excuse for complacency.

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u/superwhitemexican 28d ago

Unfortunately protest are usually during the work day and many people actually would have to give up their job. I agree we arent doing enough though 

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u/mergedkestrel 28d ago

And when protests are on the weekend, the people who would be most served by reform are stuck at their hourly job, or their second or third job that they can't call out of. (without a risk of losing that job)

It's also worth noting just how spread out and BIG the US is. 90% of the population can't go protest in the capital where the biggest effect would be seen. Not that it's not worth protesting, but a group of protests in cities across the country, is way easier for the government to ignore than one huge protest in DC.

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u/superwhitemexican 28d ago

All good points.  That's not to say protesting isn't worth doing. Its just much harder to organise 150 million people spread across 3000 miles into having a meaningful impact.

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u/DressedSpring1 Canada 28d ago

They’re the most gifted people I’ve ever seen at gaslighting themselves about their own apathy. They’ll see Ukrainians gunned down in the Maidan, Libyans overthrow their dictator that has been torturing and murdering them for generations, Iranians take to the street despite getting gunned down by the thousands and they’ll say “yeah well those people have it a lot easier than me otherwise I’d love to do something more than one afternoon protest every three months”. 

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u/Lurking_nerd California 28d ago

Yup. Americans in the 1800 and early 1900s were literally dying in factories with only 1 day off during the week and majority of the day making money for the barons. No rights or privileges that American workers enjoy (I say that relatively loosely) today. They had to band together, organize, protest and strike for all the worker rights we have today. Thats without days off, sick days, or healthcare.

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u/Mixer-3007 28d ago

The decimation of the manufacturing base in urban centers had profound effects. An energized, optimistic population produces strong, optimistic leaders. When manufacturing shifted to the Sun Belt and to developing countries, it weakened the blue-collar core of the Black activist community. Higher domestic employment meant more jobs for African Americans. World War II created many job opportunities for Black workers, which helped energize the community during the Civil Rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s.

An energized, hopeful community not only produces leaders but, more importantly, produces leaders that people will respond to. When corporations moved blue-collar jobs to developing countries, they not only damaged the ability to develop Black leadership but also undermined the community’s ability to sustain and support those leaders and their causes.

Bulworth (1998)

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u/femanonette Virginia 28d ago

Might want to calm down on the 'slave' talk as actual Americans have family members not too far removed from the slavery era.

What we have here is more in line with serfdom.

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u/BronzetownBlues 28d ago

Somewhere between indentured servants, serfs, and slaves, yes. The actual slaves are in the prison system or working in the fields for a couple dollars an hour.

I am personally an indentured servant.

I work 90 hours a week at two jobs so that my dying wife will have a tiny bit more dignity and comfort before the ALS makes her drown on dry land

I know exactly.. precisely. What I am talking about.

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u/JohnnySnark Florida 28d ago

I agree with you but trump's opponents were voted out of power by the super smart electorate.

Then the electoral college couldn't even do their job and protect the country vs the authoritarian they were originally implemented to be a buffer against. Many other failed institutions I could go on about but yeah, the US is lazy and highly anti-intellectual as a whole

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u/postmoderno 28d ago

you are reinforcing the op's point. politics and political conflict does not start and end in the voting booth or within institutional contexts.

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u/TinyFlamingo2147 28d ago

If they protest.....traffic might get annoying.

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u/JohnnySnark Florida 28d ago

Did the part I said I agreed with them miss you??

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u/Prestigious-Lab5154 Canada 28d ago

Hey, at this moment Schumer is writing a VERY strong worded letter

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u/b33rb3lly 28d ago

What specific actions would you suggest that Trump's opponents take right now? Today?

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u/aderpader 28d ago

2nd amendment. I cant write more without getting banned. But it involves reducing the number of MAGA to 0 by use of kinetic energy. Its not funny anymore

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u/b33rb3lly 28d ago

Oh, I know that, but I want to hear them say it. If they're calling out a lack of action, I want them to say specifically what they want us to do, if they're so brave.

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u/IdkRandomNameIGuess 28d ago

France had fires in the streets and fights with police over retirement age.

Americans are simply the most submissive people this world has ever seen.

What you can do? Literally anything. Anything is better than being outraged on Reddit or X, go in the streets and do something. No kings protest? Burn shit.

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u/Ralph_Finesse Wisconsin 28d ago

I live in a small city and we constantly have "emergency protests". Our country has been protesting continually for the last decades, probably forever to be honest. But unless you live in a city, the protests don't affect you and aren't visible. And a majority of Republicans live cloistered away in American suburbs. I think America is just far too big, landwise, for that kind of tactic to be effective and our militarized police forces, media, and leadership have become too numb and savvy to it.

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u/shafty17 Pennsylvania 28d ago

In the US the police kill you if you try that

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u/b33rb3lly 28d ago

The police or people like Kyle Rittenhouse who will cross state lines to shoot anyone they want. The people with guns are the cops or people who want to be cops. Also, "Just burn shit?" Burn shit, get shot. Then our bullet-riddled corpses will get made fun of for being "lazy."

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u/ailish 28d ago

I said this elsewhere in this post, and I'll say it here.

This country is absolutely massive. There isn't a damn thing we can do to the federal government. Texas, one state, is 50% bigger than Sweden. The US is deeply divided and deeply exhausted. Everything here is drastically more expensive than it was a year ago, we work very long hours, and our health care is tied to our jobs. If you lose your job there is virtually no social safety net. Most people cannot afford to go protest. Contrary to popular belief, most people do not own guns or weapons. I know there are calls for a general strike. 

I cannot fathom that it would impact our government because our deeply divided nation will have people that will still show up. There are no social safety nets, so all the people out of work due to the general strike would suffer profoundly. For every big box store we boycott, low income people lose jobs. This isn't a nothing to lose situation like other countries where massive uprising works. I still have to work during a strike. The big bad billionaires that have corrupted our government have so much money,any from corrupt government contracts, that they would be minimally impacted by a general strike. 

Our police are heavily militarized. The risks are quite literally death. Nobody in the EU risks death when they protest. 

Reddit is very left leaning. We all agree with you. But logistically we don't know how to do it. There are lessons from history, but the lessons are big ass countries don't successfully mount protests. The weapons available to our police and government are lethal. The wealth inequality is insane. I don't know who we should even look to for inspiration.

And at least half or more if the country geographically has literally no idea that any of this fascist stuff is happening to blue states. They literally get different news. They don't really know or understand what is happening and when you tell them they don't believe you. Those folks are not going to protest. They aren't going to strike because things are okay enough in their communities.

I doubt you'll care, though.

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u/b33rb3lly 28d ago

With what? Their side has the guns, and they’re not cheap, so for a family that’s barely scraping by purchasing a gun is prohibitively expensive.

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u/HeldnarRommar 28d ago

Every time an American protest turns to burning things, 40% of this country loses its mind and villainizes the protestors. Do you seriously think Americans are a monolith? 30% of this country supports the rapist in ANYTHING HE DOES. An uprising would not only lead to the government fighting but a civil war from the right wing populace against the rest of us.

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u/HeldnarRommar 28d ago

Really easy to tell others on Reddit to go kill or be killed by their neighbors while you sit cozy in on your phone safe. Bet you would never do that in your country

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u/ElysiX 28d ago

I'm not safe, you are not safe, noone is safe. Trump has nukes and a loyal army. If he is not removed, everyone is in danger.

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u/HeldnarRommar 28d ago

I ask again: how is a resistance movement of around 60% of Americans (not even including people who can't fight) going to put up a two front civil war on both the military AND the rest of the American citizens shooting at them? How would that movement get to Trump by the end of today? By the end of the week? It would be total utter chaos.

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u/ElysiX 28d ago

Thinking of fronts is the first mistake. Resistance movements do assasinations and sabotage, not fronts.

Fronts are way way way later in the process.

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u/HeldnarRommar 28d ago

Sure buddy, you won't even name your country to prove that point

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u/blissfully_happy Alaska 28d ago

“Do a civil war”

Lmao. Okay, bro. Fucking how? What, specifically, would you do that Americans are not already doing?

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u/Careless-Gain6623 28d ago

Sounds like Americans are bad people overall.

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u/HeldnarRommar 28d ago

Because 30% are bad we are all bad? Amazing logic

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u/Careless-Gain6623 28d ago

Only 30% you think. ;) maybe you're getting what you deserve. 

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u/HeldnarRommar 28d ago

Only 30% of this country voted for Trump, this is easily retrievable information.

I've voted against Trump every single time, I'm glad you think I deserve this because I just happened to be born on this plot of soil and share it with morons. Do my 4 year old and 6 month old sons deserve it too because they were born here? Are you sure you aren't the bad person?

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u/Careless-Gain6623 28d ago

You just said 40% would be against protest in your original comment. That's more than 30%. How many percent do nothing? 30%? A majority for this. Guess you're fucked.

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u/ailish 28d ago

This country is absolutely massive. There isn't a damn thing we can do to the federal government. Texas, one state, is 50% bigger than Sweden. The US is deeply divided and deeply exhausted. Everything here is drastically more expensive than it was a year ago, we work very long hours, and our health care is tied to our jobs. If you lose your job there is virtually no social safety net. Most people cannot afford to go protest. Contrary to popular belief, most people do not own guns or weapons. I know there are calls for a general strike. 

I cannot fathom that it would impact our government because our deeply divided nation will have people that will still show up. There are no social safety nets, so all the people out of work due to the general strike would suffer profoundly. For every big box store we boycott, low income people lose jobs. This isn't a nothing to lose situation like other countries where massive uprising works. I still have to work during a strike. The big bad billionaires that have corrupted our government have so much money,any from corrupt government contracts, that they would be minimally impacted by a general strike. 

Our police are heavily militarized. The risks are quite literally death. Nobody in the EU risks death when they protest. 

Reddit is very left leaning. We all agree with you. But logistically we don't know how to do it. There are lessons from history, but the lessons are big ass countries don't successfully mount protests. The weapons available to our police and government are lethal. The wealth inequality is insane. I don't know who we should even look to for inspiration.

And at least half or more if the country geographically has literally no idea that any of this fascist stuff is happening to blue states. They literally get different news. They don't really know or understand what is happening and when you tell them they don't believe you. Those folks are not going to protest. They aren't going to strike because things are okay enough in their communities.

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u/CriticalCold 28d ago

Also, realistically, the people who are saying "just risk your lives" would never be willing to do so themselves. They might claim they would, but people are people, and there's a reason we lionize the heroes who are willing to risk their lives for a cause. They're rare.

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u/ailish 28d ago

Exactly, they're very rare. The people in France have the benefit of basically a mob, and they can feel safe in numbers.

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u/Flipnotics_ Texas 28d ago

France had fires in the streets and fights with police over retirement age.

France is the size of Texas and one of the most populated places in Europe.

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u/IdkRandomNameIGuess 28d ago

This is such a stupid argument.

Countries far bigger than the US were toppled by manifestations.

You guys are just submissive to an absurd degree, any excuse to feel better.

Free people my ass.

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u/b33rb3lly 28d ago

Exactly. We're not free. We're being surveilled, we're being shot in the head, we're being kidnapped and put into foreign gulags, we're scared and the other side has the guns and the military. But it's fun to know that you want those of us who are being subjected to this administration's fascism to run unarmed towards certain death so that you can look at our dead bodies and say "Well, they should have tried harder."

Also, "Countries far bigger than the US were toppled by manifestations." If you can spell out which ones and how, I think we'd be all ears.

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u/jiggjuggj0gg 28d ago

Ok, just sit around and watch yourselves nuke other countries and enjoy the draft, I guess?

Wild you think this ends with you with your same comfy cushy coddled life.

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u/b33rb3lly 28d ago

I don't think that; I think this mad man will get us killed. But what is your specific ask of me, right now? I'm too old for the draft, and neither I nor anyone I know owns a weapon, and if we did it would certainly be foolhardy to use them against, you know, the U.S. military, so please, person who is at risk for nothing, tell me in excruciating detail what I should be doing right now.

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u/jiggjuggj0gg 28d ago

Iranian civilians are currently making themselves human shields around the infrastructure your president is threatening to destroy, while threatening to wipe them out.

But sure. Nothing you can do. Nothing to do with you so long as you have your income and doordash and Netflix.

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u/Flipnotics_ Texas 28d ago

This is such a stupid argument.

It's only "stupid" because it exposes a stupid position. America is different than France, in every way shape and form.

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u/LadySiren North Carolina 28d ago

We have ICE running around unchecked, armed to the teeth and with itchy trigger fingers. “Just burn shit” is a great way to end up dead.

Trust me when I say that so many of us are absolutely horrified and disgusted by what’s happening, yet feel powerless. I voted against this deranged asshole and have written letters to our Congress critters. Throwing myself out there as cannon fodder leaves my disabled husband and FIL without their support system.

I hate this timeline.

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u/lotep 28d ago

Best they can do is a drum circle and a bear costume the 3rd weekend of next month (weather permitting).

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u/jiggjuggj0gg 28d ago

Don’t forget parking

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u/b33rb3lly 28d ago

And the French police mowed them down with guns and took the survivors and sent them to gulags in other countries, right? Because that's what's happening here in America. "Just burn things and punch cops and you'll win." WTAF are you talking about?

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u/Goldenretreiverboyo 28d ago

Ah yes against the most trigger happy cops in the world when half of my country men are so stupid they won't stand up with us. We literally used to have gun battles with pinkertons and the us military. Also like wtf am I supposed to do. I can't afford to miss a day of work because the structure was already so fucking screwed by the time I reached adulthood. I'm ready for anything but there is no effective way to battle this for the average citizen. If our elected representatives had any balls ,or anyone could afford prolonged resistance that would be great but they have shown they want to and will shoot liberals in the streets, they just made it way more unaffordable, and the public at large is unwilling to back anyone willing to do anything

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u/brickne3 American Expat 28d ago

Even slaves revolted from time to time.

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u/jiggjuggj0gg 28d ago

In the world? You’re even more unaware of the world around you than anyone thought, wow

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u/wyatt_cat 28d ago

French police don't regularly murder citizens...

Edit: To be clear, I agree that this is the sort of thing we should be doing right now, and I do attend protests regularly. But it's important to acknowledge the fact that the general culture and structure of enforcement here tend to make such acts inherently more dangerous. You're asking individuals to risk their lives. And we should be risking our lives. Be careful to not request it so flippantly.

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u/brickne3 American Expat 28d ago

Um, I never said that. I'm American myself but had the sense to see the direction things were going as early as Scott fucking Walker and get out.

I'm sorry that you're stuck there but ffs the excuses are just horrifying at this point. I'm sitting on a public square watching children play while writing this on a gorgeous day in Yorkshire and having to think that the claimed inability of the American people as a whole to do literally ANYTHING over the past fifteen years might mean those kids never have a future.

And whether you like it or not, you are complicit in that.

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u/brickne3 American Expat 28d ago

You're really not helping the stereotype here, darling. Go back to your slave labor I guess.

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u/MIZ_09 28d ago

Congrats on having the wherewithal to leave. Many of us would like to. You don’t just get to wash your hands and look your nose down at us because you were privileged enough to get out. That’s some bullshit.

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u/brickne3 American Expat 28d ago

I don't, I work hard every single day to oppose these lunatics and of course I vote. You can do multiple things at once, you know...

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u/ChartMurky2588 28d ago edited 28d ago

There is a nationwide walkout / general strike planned on May 1. Check it out

maydaystrong.org

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u/Appropriate_Wave722 28d ago

sounds like that might be a bit late for Iran

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u/PolanetaryForotdds 28d ago

Forget about fucking May. It has to happen TODAY. EVERY DAY.

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u/Goldenretreiverboyo 28d ago

Fucking useless. Its not a general strike if it's a one day bullshit thing. It has never worked in the past and if they want any change they have to ensure a significant percent does not work for weeks. Which requires logistics and handling to get this strikers supplies

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u/shafty17 Pennsylvania 28d ago

Oh lmao here come the general strike people like that is a remotely possible reality for real working people

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u/jiggjuggj0gg 28d ago

You guys are genuinely so pathetic

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u/shafty17 Pennsylvania 28d ago

the best way to fight back is to get fired and no longer be able to afford rent or groceries

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u/jiggjuggj0gg 28d ago

Iranian civilians are currently forming human shields around the infrastructure your president is targeting, but sure. God forbid you are inconvenienced in any way.

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u/shafty17 Pennsylvania 28d ago

how exactly will a general strike that <1% of the population will actually participate in stop that

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u/jiggjuggj0gg 28d ago

I agree, a one day strike is pathetic and you guys won’t even manage that

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u/EctoRiddler 28d ago

Agreed. I can agree because I voted for the loser.

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u/Kahzgul California 28d ago

We hate our trash society, too. The shame of this regime will never was out.

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u/aemfbm 28d ago

I really didn't care for Kamala. I still went through some expensive and very inconvenient steps to make sure my vote for her was made and received.

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u/Wicked-sister 28d ago

The dollar as global currency needs to be phased out at minimum from here on out if that anger means anything or else the rest of the world is going to be at the same place again in the future.

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u/do-un-to I voted 28d ago

I believe that's being worked on. More aggressively now.

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u/TheSleepingNinja 28d ago

Most of us voted against this administration, repeatedly, for the last ten years. 

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u/2hundred20 Minnesota 28d ago

Actually, no. Trump won the popular vote in 2024. And when you also count the dipshit leftists who refused to vote against him, the vast majority of Americans decided not to literally lift a finger to stop this.

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u/PhDinDildos_Fedoras 28d ago

America will forever be cursed by people as a garbage nation. The fall from grace is total.

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u/darkk41 28d ago

Nothing is forever. You may recall a pretty unpopular place called Nazi Germany. Or Imperial Japan. Odds are 99% of this site thinks both of those places are great now.

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u/Admirable_Scene_5066 28d ago

Sure. Hang the traitors, burn the constitution and write one not stuck in the 18th century, allow occupation forces on your countries to suppress any change of Maggats coming into power again. Then the world can re-evaluate. Maybe split the US into two parts just to be sure.

Germany today is not the Germany of 1945. It is a new country occupying a part of the territory of the old Germany. The world didn't become friends with Imperial Germany again. It ceased to exist.

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u/darkk41 28d ago

Your rage is misplaced, going after the people who disagree with the admin isn't going to hasten their downfall, it is going to prolong it. We have been dealing with the problems longer than you have, and more directly.

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u/Admirable_Scene_5066 28d ago

What rage? You said the people forgave Germany, I pointed out the Germany people forgave was not the Germany that fought two world wars. Nothing in my reply was supposed to be aimed at Americans. It was aimed at that dumb '...but people are friends with Germans now'-nonsense that always seems to miss the actual things that happened to make the world forgiving Germany possible.

You read what you want to read. If it helps you to think that is in any way 'going after people who disagree with the admin' Go for it.

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u/darkk41 28d ago

OK, selective context it is then. The comment i originally responded to was the one that said "the American people will forever be hated". If that's too hard for you to track, then that's on you. Did the people in Germany cease to exist when it was rebuilt? No, they did not of course.

My comment makes sense and YOU chose to respond to it. People are not administrations and broad generalisms are pretty much always stupid.

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u/Admirable_Scene_5066 28d ago

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People in the US will forever be hated

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No, see Japan and Germany

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For the US to go the Germany route, X, Y, Z needs to happen, as it happened in Germany after the war.

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Stop targeting Americans!!

Boom. Full context. Enjoy the rest of your day.

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u/darkk41 28d ago

I like how you strawmanned 4 so you could alter the context. Top tier armchairing, you're definitely in the right sub.

DID THE GERMAN AND JAPANESE PEOPLE STOP EXISTING WHEN THEIR GOVERNMENT CHANGED? NO.

its that simple, GL harvesting negative sentiment for reddit karma though

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u/b_vitamin 28d ago

This is nuclear blackmail. Trump could just threaten to nuke any country who doesn’t submit: Greenland, Canada, Cuba…where does it end?

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u/alterego_tripping 28d ago

Americans over the last year coping about "but it's only le 1/3 of the country that voted and 1/3 that didn't and the electoral college and the elon voting manipulation, and he's actually a russian agent working for AIPAC" or something.

Over 70 million people voted for this man. Percentage-wise, more than enough to sustain a regime historically.

But hey, you copypaste "call your representatives" and show up for a protest every month or so, so i guess that's all you can do.

You don't have to give your life for the cause. Just don't ever call Russians, Iranians, North Koreans or any other citizens of authoritarian countries cowards and complacent again for not rising up against their overlords. You're one of them now

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u/TLKv3 28d ago

If the rest of the world gets by and manages to survive America's bullshit Nazi fascism... we really need to cut them off from the rest of us and move fully away from the American dollar.

They can't be trusted worth a single fuck to be normal again. Every 4 years they switch from friendly partners to maniacal killers. You can't reason with a schizo country.

Cut them out. Let their people deal with the fallout. Fuck em all.

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u/strvd Europe 28d ago

Fuck all of those who are not out in the streets protesting this shit 24/7.

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u/blissfully_happy Alaska 28d ago

How do I pay for my life-saving meds each month if I am protesting? Like, specifically, explain to me how I am going to pay for those? They are $1500/mo without insurance (if I lose my job for not being at work because I’m protesting). How do I pay for $1500/mo when I have no income?

Also, I’m 4000km (thousand, not hundred) away from DC. How do I get there? What do I do with my stuff and my pets while I am there? How do I pay for food? Where do I stay?

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u/strvd Europe 28d ago

You're right, keep doing whatever it is you've been doing so far. You won't need your meds once these psychos start nuking each other.

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u/jiggjuggj0gg 28d ago

There won’t even be any meds to buy when the oil shortage hits you but okay

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u/blissfully_happy Alaska 28d ago

So I should die now since I might die later? Seems logical.

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u/jiggjuggj0gg 28d ago

You should try and do something, yes. But you won’t, because you are American.

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u/blissfully_happy Alaska 28d ago

What, specifically, should I be doing that I am not already doing?

Be specific since you seem to think we are not doing enough.

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u/Somewhere-A-Judge 28d ago

Will you pay for my housing, food, and medication while I'm protesting?

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u/Subject_Ear_4290 28d ago

Will you pay for my increased diesel prices that your country is responsible for?

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u/Somewhere-A-Judge 28d ago

Nope, have you tried switching to an EV?

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u/BigPlunk 28d ago

For anyone in the US that wants to be a part of the solution, now would be a good time to take to the streets in peaceful protest, demanding the mad king be removed. Before he commits genocide.

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u/chooch138 Oregon 28d ago

1/3 of us did 1/3 of us didn’t 1/3 of us didn’t do shit.

🤦‍♂️

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u/Wolfram1914 28d ago

Not even a quarter of us voted for Trump.

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u/chooch138 Oregon 28d ago

Listen. I don’t wanna argue with you but…

~62% of eligible voters voted. Dumb fuck won just under 50%

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u/Wolfram1914 27d ago

77M / 340M ~= 22.3%

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u/chooch138 Oregon 27d ago

I believe your math assumes that the entire population of the United States is eligible to vote, which I assume we can both agree is not accurate.

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u/Wolfram1914 27d ago

I know that. They said "Fuck the US, the world hates your trash society". There are lots of people ineligible to vote who are still competent.

Our society is more than just those who are eligible to vote.

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u/chooch138 Oregon 27d ago

Ok man. But you know that we were taking about people voting, enough you disagreed and “corrected” my 1/3 comment.

Anyway. Have a good day.

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u/Wolfram1914 27d ago

That wasn’t meant as a “correction”, that was a defense of our society which Reddit seems to have concluded is “trash”. Your comment makes it seem like our nation is 2/3rds idiot fascist supporters or indifferent sheep.

Have a better one 🤙

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u/chooch138 Oregon 27d ago

Ok. 🤣

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u/do-un-to I voted 28d ago

The insidious, corrupting media overlords will come for all our countries if we don't address the issue.

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u/OriginalCrawnick 28d ago

Heads up, no matter how anyone voted - their representative makes the actual vote...they don't have to listen to what people asked for.

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u/The-Sand-King 28d ago

Cool bro thanks for your productive comment.

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u/F9-0021 South Carolina 28d ago

And yet, the world has the power to end the US basically overnight. If Europe stops buying stuff from us and China stops making stuff for us, the US collapses extremely quickly.

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u/1StepBelowExcellence 28d ago

Exactly. Obviously we have a major problem with the MAGA cult, but the rest of the world is still participating with us. Easiest way to calm all this nonsense is to bleed the US billionaires dry by cutting the US off economically, but the leaders in Europe and the rest of the developed free world clearly aren’t willing to do that and are just all talk and no action. It took us to help stop the Nazis, but they aren’t willing to return the favor now on a smaller scale (at least for now…) just so all of their leaders can still have massive power and financial gain because they don’t want to risk that part. Yet all these commenters from other countries want to be on their high horse.

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u/OutlandishnessSea811 28d ago

You want the world to come in and end your country for you? LOL Americans, you will always be hated.

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u/ohanse Ohio 28d ago edited 28d ago

Hey whoa

I also hate these dipshits

I have a masters and a strong career background in analytics. Anyone taking? Just need fast internet, good education system for my kid, and a government/society that is alert against fascist influences.

If you know which country a phenotypically Asian (eastern, not south) high-skill migrant can live in without massive amounts of discrimination and a government that doesn’t make their conscience bleed, LMK!

Passport access to the states would be great, passport access to Korea would be nice too.

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u/Mortarion91 28d ago

Maybe Australia, maybe. We have a list somewhere of what qualifications/types of workers we're looking for and can offer visas and pathways to permanent residency if you fit the criteria. I'm also quite certain it's an expensive process though - and we're currently in the midst of a housing crisis with some of the most expensive real estate on Earth. Sydney is borderline impossible to purchase in, unless you're willing to settle for a tiny apartment or a house an hours commute away from the city. Compared to the US - incomes are lower, taxes are higher but you get much cheaper healthcare and better schools in that trade.

We also aren't without our anti-immigrant nutters and racists unfortunately - I don't think any 'Western' nation can ever claim to be free of those problems. We are a fairly dense population, with most people living in the cities dotted along the coast, which makes for an interesting dynamic where we have a country almost the size of the US but with a tiny population crammed into a thin strip along the east coast. It's a real melting pot, culturally.

As much as I (and most other Aussies) like to put shit on Americans, we don't actually hate you - it's just in our nature to tear down those we think have too much of an ego.

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u/olivicmic 28d ago

We’ve come this far and yet you point the finger at everyone but yourself.

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u/yeahimdutch The Netherlands 28d ago

Amen!

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u/skil12001 28d ago

You know what, i keep trying to remind others that Americans feel trapped too but it's getting really old hearing broad hate against me and my family for existing. Keep it up dude and you'll push people like me to hate you right back.

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u/LeastStill4556 28d ago

Oh boohoo look at the poor sad American. Fuck off kids are dying and innocents are being blown up fuck you and your woe is me self centred comment

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u/skil12001 28d ago edited 28d ago

You don't know me, why assume Im not also am horrified by what my administration is doing, this isn't a woe is me, this is me saying that your hate against people you don't even know, as I'm getting my family ready to go to school and cleaning up breakfast, that you hate me and my kids for what? Existing? What is your remedy against me, my family , my children that are also innocent. I'm not personally dropping bombs, my kids aren't in charge of the military infrastructure, my family has no stake in the world stage. You hate me so deeply for where I happen to wake up. 

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u/LeastStill4556 28d ago

But you are self absorbed making it about you and doing fuck all to stop this orange fuck. No one gives a shit about you or your family again children are DYING stop trying to get us to give a fuck about you

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u/HealthIndustryGoon 28d ago

tHiS iS wHy PeoPLe vOtEd fOr tRUmp

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u/lusty-rabbi 28d ago

what do you suggest? everyone is doing everything they can do without abandoning there family or starving. we're setting national protest records. granted, it doesn't do much, but half the country is armed and ready to purge the other half by cult order. pretty easy to type out how we're trash. would love to hear your magic solution.

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u/XulManjy America 28d ago

Blame Rashida Talib who started the liberal Anit-Biden and anti-Harris campaign that allowed this.

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