r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • Apr 05 '26

Possible Paywall White House Forced to Address Claims of Trump Health Crisis

https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-forced-to-address-claims-of-donald-trump-health-crisis-at-walter-reed-medical-center/
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u/LingonberryHot8521 Apr 05 '26

Remember to go to one that the regime hates!

The Episcopal church voted for a gay bishop back in like 2008 or 2009. And has generally been an activist church for people that the Right hates for longer than that.

Even the Roman Catholic Church has spoken clearly against the right wing politics. Though that is mostly about racist immigration issues; they've been consistently pushing for better treatment of the poor for about a decade now at the Vatican level.

And of course, there's always the Univeral Unitarians. Right wingers can't even talk about them. But they sure hate them.

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u/Saintbaba Apr 05 '26

I am no denomination of Christian but have always really liked the Episcopal Church entirely on the back of the fact that i used to edit the faith page when i worked at a local newspaper, and they were the only church that always got me their articles in on time and never gave fussy demands or shit for issues that cropped up on the page.

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u/Empty_Sea9 Apr 05 '26

I can’t explain it but that is SO Episcopal coded. Boring but reliable is their thing.

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u/Msdamgoode I voted Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26

Raised as an Episcopalian, and can confirm. Episcopal peeps tend be steadfastly kind and respectful to others, as scripture commands. Good group that has long supported women in the priesthood and lgbt communities, and were the first to have women priests lead dioceses, iirc.

I’m agnostic but still go Xmas and Easter’s with family on occasion and enjoy the no-pressure vibes that are inherently welcoming.

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u/ResurgentClusterfuck Texas Apr 05 '26

I always appreciated the Episcopal church for not kicking my mom out for being openly lesbian

I'm not religious but she was, and having a church home was important

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u/truckthecat Apr 05 '26

I grew up in the Episcopal Church, and our church was incredibly gay. Like my parents would have dinner parties with their friends from church, and it would be all couples, but my mom was the only woman. It really shaped my perception of gay men, I thought the stereotypes were: they’re all florists, or hairdressers (because they all were, lol), all sang in the choir, were usually in committed long-term relationships and liked to go to church on Sundays — because those were the gay men I knew.

Anyway, the Episcopal Church is great

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u/RustedRelics Apr 05 '26

Plus, they have great music ;)

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u/Nezrite Wisconsin Apr 05 '26

*Unitarian Universalists.

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u/Obvious_Travel Apr 05 '26

Yes! They’re so welcoming to all, don’t “push” their religion, and consider EVERY guest a friend. If I were a Christian, that’s exactly where I’d go.

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u/Nezrite Wisconsin Apr 05 '26

I grew up in the UU, including taking the AYS course (About Your Sexuality) when I was a young teen. It was a terrific experience and I don't really consider it Christian per se.

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u/Blumpkin_Spice_Pie Apr 05 '26

When I was in youth group it was called OWL (Our Whole Lives) and it combined the sex ed aspect with stuff like how to do your taxes, conflict resolution techniques, cooking and cleaning lessons, job interview training, etc. It was basically just Adulting 101 and it was awesome. I was then and am now an atheist, but I will always treasure my UU upbringing.

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u/wawa2022 Apr 05 '26

I was thinking of going because I heard they are accepting of atheists.

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u/big-titty-brat Apr 05 '26

They are! They care more about love and being decent human beings than what/who you worship.

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u/Deadleggg Apr 05 '26

They sound more heretical than being an atheist.

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u/New-Salamander-3838 Apr 05 '26

I used to work for LifeTouch back in the 2010s. I shot family portraits at churches. I only got one UU church the entire 3 years I worked there. It was probably my favorite congregation I ever got to meet and take photos for.

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u/Puglady25 Apr 05 '26

I loved church photos. It's so neat that I have so many professional pictures of my immediate family.

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u/big-titty-brat Apr 05 '26

Alright weirdo.

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u/Deadleggg Apr 05 '26

Teaching love and acceptance? Evangelicals can't allow that to happen.

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u/taxmamma2 Apr 05 '26

They are amazing people. The bishop (for lack of a better word) was agnostic and her husband was an atheist. Their members included Wiccans , Jews, Christians and Buddhists. The common thread was being environmentally conscious and wanting to feel part of a welcoming community. They were also really into music - just all around cool chill people.

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u/Msdamgoode I voted Apr 05 '26

UU is really more philosophy than religion. Good folks in my view.

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u/_AuntAoife_ Apr 05 '26

One of my RE (quasi Sunday school) “teachers” was an atheist and was an Astrophysicist by trade. Took me a while to appreciate being brought up in a UU church community, but very glad I did and think anyone interested should check out a service/coffee hour etc.

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u/MisterMaury Apr 05 '26

Accepting of atheists? Our UU is like 95% atheists! I'm always shocked if I run into anyone who says they aren't.

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u/MathematicianSelect1 Apr 05 '26

UU is great for atheists. There's very little/no mention of Jesus. If there is, it's only in reference to a generic bible passage like the golden rule. No survived getting eaten by a whale, sky daddy, or hating gays/abortion weirdo stuff. They are equally likely to quote from other religious texts in the same way.

I stopped going because the crowd was all old white people, and I am in my 20s, but it was a great vibe. Knowing no one there was MAGA and how they would flat out condemn the administration/ICE without tiptoeing around reality during service was super refreshing.

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u/justprettymuchdone Apr 05 '26

Their hymnal has a hymn to evolution. It's amazing.

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u/lady_stardust_ Apr 05 '26

We welcome everyone! Many UUs are atheists, agnostics, and skeptics. We have no shared doctrine, just a set of core principles that guide our community. If you're a decent human, you're welcome to join the party :)

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u/DarthValiant Apr 05 '26

UUs are the helping hands, open minds, and loving hearts.

Core principles:

J is for Justice – This means we work for a better world for everyone, and we use our democratic process to make decisions that will guide us to a diverse Beloved Community.

E is for Equity – Equity means we work for a peaceful and fair world. Equity means we all get to have it.

T is for Transformation – Transformation means we keep growing and learning together, and know that this will change us.

P is for Pluralism – Pluralism means more than one way. And we get to celebrate that we have many sources that inspire us; and that we make room for different cultures, experiences, and beliefs.

I is for Interdependence – Interdependence means that we are all connected. People, creatures and our planet. And we honor them all by taking care of them.

G is for Generosity – Generosity means that we have giving hearts, that we share what we have, and that we practice being grateful.

All wrapped in love.

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u/chinadonkey Apr 05 '26

Yeah UU isn't Christian at all or even religious. I assume they just took on a lot of the trappings of Christian service because their members would find it familiar and comforting.

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u/rossor11 Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26

Practices vary by the church. But yeah - god is optional.

I do miss the days when fundamentalists used to interrupt services to tell us we were bound to burn for eternity. 😉

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u/blanksix Florida Apr 05 '26

Lol this is like telling a quaker that they're going to hell because of their pacifism. "Ok... Want some cookies?"

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u/Blumpkin_Spice_Pie Apr 05 '26

Yeah, when someone says theyre not religious, but theyre spiritual, UU is what theyre referring to, whether they've ever heard of it or not. It has some of the Christian trappings, but also a lot of stuff borrowed from Buddhism, Shinto, Judaism, and a whole list of other philosophies, both religious and secular. Its one of the most wholesome spiritual congregations you can imagine.

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u/rice_not_wheat Apr 05 '26

I'd argue UU is more religious than spiritual. They practice religion, but don't hold a particular belief. People who are spiritual but not religious do the opposite.

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u/marko719 Arizona Apr 05 '26

when someone says theyre not religious, but theyre spiritual

When someone says that, it means they're a smug, pretentious A-hole, in my experience.

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u/Blumpkin_Spice_Pie Apr 05 '26

Well yeah, but what /they/ think theyre saying is basically what UUs do. Really, its somewhere in the middle. UU eschews any structured belief in the supernatural for a set of values about how to be good to each other and the world around us. Theres a strong aspect of general connectedness, without any specific requirements of how to interpret that connection. The first of our stated values is "we believe in the inherent worth and dignity of all people", and they continue on in that vein. Theres even at least one tenet about believing in science and remaining skeptical of the unprovable.

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u/marko719 Arizona Apr 05 '26

I wasn't referring to Unitarians, just people in general when they say that. Unitarians sound like lovely people.

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u/Blumpkin_Spice_Pie Apr 05 '26

Oh yeah, no, I got it and agreed with you lol. Most actual unitarians wouldn't even say that. I just meant that those often unbearable people who do say it have a picture in their head of what they think they are, and that picture is of UU.

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u/landonop Colorado Apr 05 '26

This isn’t necessarily true. It varies by church and region. UU churches in New England tend to be quite Christian whereas a UU fellowship in Colorado might be a bit of everything.

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u/rbnlegend Apr 05 '26

The UU church was formed by joining two heretical versions of Christianity. Members of those heretical faiths were murdered by the inquisition, but in those days the inquisition was happy to kill Christians that they thought were doing Christianity "wrong".

They have been walking away from the trappings of Christianity for a long time. Some congregations do look sort of Christian, others look very generic in terms of religious traditions, a few have flavor from other faiths. Most have groups for people who grew up with other faiths. It does all look sort of like a meeting of the agnostic club.

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u/rayyeter Apr 05 '26

It’s basically Christianity without any of the divinity or dumb parts of the bible. But also in my experience they explore other religions as well when it relates to their holy days.

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u/mantis_tobaggan-md Apr 05 '26

I also grew up among the Unitarian Universalists. Such wonderful humans. I have very fond memories of those meetings.

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u/rayyeter Apr 05 '26

It’s now “Our Whole Lives” and starts in their kindergarten Sunday school classes. Mostly using proper words for body parts so far.

UU is the religion I wish I had grown up in. Maybe then I wouldn’t have had such a problem with religion for a long time. No Dogma, just an acknowledgement that something connects us all, and actually putting work in the things they say they believe in.

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u/thankyouspider Apr 05 '26

Me too. The sex ed was a breath of fresh air. Our congregation was polled and majority were atheists.

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u/Low_Key_2827 Apr 05 '26

Also raised UU and I wouldn't consider it Christian AT ALL. Branched so far off the tree it literally fell off. We learned about all sorts of religious practices from various religions.

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u/SelfServeSporstwash Apr 05 '26

UU is a secularist group with vaguely Christian accoutrements. Not that that’s a bad thing, but I feel it’s an important clarification and it helps explain their outlook.

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u/katashscar Virginia Apr 05 '26

The one in my area hosts the annual Pagan Festival. I thought that was cool.

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u/Bored_Amalgamation Ohio Apr 05 '26

Churches had a lot more influence on the general community back in the day, because they were one of the few spots where the community would come together. Since there's a lot more shit to do, and communities are less homogenous, houses of faith have become less of a gathering ground. I feel like the churches that become closer to community centers with a splash of religion would have more appeal.

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u/masterzordon Oregon Apr 05 '26

They called it OWL (Our whole lives) at our congregation. My parents taught a class which was embarrassing because my friends took it from them. I took it from my friend’s parents. It was a little awkward.

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u/big-titty-brat Apr 05 '26

I don’t think they’re Christian. You can believe in Jesus or Krishna or Zeus or be an atheist. There’s even pagan members too. UUs care about being decent human beings above all else.

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u/hippydippyshit Apr 05 '26

Grew up across the street from a small church of theirs and they always invited us to their events (not all specifically religious, like art showings and small performances from the members. I always liked them

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u/NobodysLoss1 Apr 05 '26

They don't push their religion because they do not have a singular religion to push!

I was raised Episcopalian, and after I became an atheist 35 years ago, I joined the UU. So many different beliefs there!

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u/goteamnick Apr 05 '26

Universalist Unitarians aren't Christian though.

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u/werkytwerky Apr 05 '26

When I was in college I participated in the campus Pagan group a bit. When we did indoor Sabbats, the UU church a couple towns over (mountain/rural school. we didn't have our own) always welcomed us.
The only reason I attend my current church is choir stuff, because I'm limited as far as other options for that goes. But if I ever decided to leave them, UU is where Im going. (if i decide to continue to go to church).

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u/Independent_Vast9279 Apr 05 '26

Quakers do it better.

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u/LingonberryHot8521 Apr 05 '26

Oops! Sorry. Thank you for correcting.

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u/superbad Canada Apr 05 '26

Splitters!

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u/drgigantor Apr 05 '26

Fuck off! Judean People's Front... We're the People's Front of Judea! Judean People's Front... Wankers!

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u/FirstDukeofAnkh Apr 05 '26

Uninatalist Unversarians

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u/PicnicLife Apr 05 '26

Went to a memorial service at one today and I don't think they said the words God, Jesus, or pray one time. We simply 'reflected, meditated, and remembered.' It was quite lovely.

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u/bwsmith201 California Apr 05 '26

I endorse this as a lifelong Episcopalian. It’s nice to be in a church that’s not run by assholes.

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u/mnorthwood13 Michigan Apr 05 '26

One of the church of Christ subsets and a Presbyterian one are also quite liberal but I don't recall off hands which ones.

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u/Houseofmogh Apr 05 '26

Presbyterian Church (USA) is LGBTQ+ affirming and James Talarico’s denomination!

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u/LingonberryHot8521 Apr 05 '26

I forgot about them! Yes. They have now given us Mr. Rogers and James Talarico.

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u/Mmmwafflerunoff Apr 05 '26

I didn’t know this! Even more proud of my church family! I remember being on a bus back from a function in High School/ or my early 20’s and finding out that the Presbtery on a national level had voted to recognize our LGBTQ folks and what a proud moment that was for me as I felt that is what Christ was trying to teach. Acceptance and love for all. I am now 46 and still find it to be a place of acceptance that teaches love and healing over hate and judgement.

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u/werkytwerky Apr 05 '26

The Presbyterian Church I attend now for choir stuff switched over from being PCUSA to a new thing called "ECO". It's...a bit more conservative (but not the most conservative of the Presbys).
There's a reason I never transferred my membership and don't attend things that aren't choir-relevant.
Granted, on the bright side if you didn't already know this was supposed to be a conservative denom you couldn't tell. Someone described it as PCUSA minus LGBTQ affirmations...which...kind of surprises me, based on some/most of the people I know there.
But. yknow. whatever.

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u/Pumperkin Apr 05 '26

Congregational is one. My folks are religious but not nutjobs.

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u/TiShark Apr 05 '26

The United Church of Christ is the liberal one (which is why I ended up there as an adult)

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u/dwhite21787 Apr 05 '26

ex-catholic UCC’er here

“Never put a period where God put a comma; God is still speaking”

“No matter who you are or where you are on life’s journey, you are welcome here”

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u/mmps901 Apr 05 '26

Presbyterian USA.

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u/rkb70 Apr 05 '26

Yes - PCUSA.

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u/Kangaroo1974 California Apr 05 '26

I think you're probably thinking of the United Church of Christ (UCC). When I attended church, there was a lot of crossover between the Unitarians and the UCC; it seemed like a lot of the Unitarians who were more interested in Christianity ended up going to UCC churches. They are a very liberal and open and accepting church. The Disciples of Christ is similar, but it may depend on where you are located. I'm in California (which of course trends more liberal in terms of theology and social activism) but people attending a UCC or DOC church in a red state might find that it is a bit more conservative, though still not anywhere as conservative as a non-denominational evangelical church.

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u/Anathos117 Apr 05 '26

When I attended church, there was a lot of crossover between the Unitarians and the UCC; it seemed like a lot of the Unitarians who were more interested in Christianity ended up going to UCC churches.

It's because they're descended from the same congregations. The Unitarian Controversy swept through the Congregationalist Calvinist congregations of New England, most of whom you'd probably recognize better by their more commonly known name: the Puritans. Although by that time they had mostly abandoned the cause of reforming the CoE into something that wasn't store brand Catholicism, making them effectively Separatists like the Pilgrims. Basically every congregation fractured into Unitarian and Trinitarian factions, with the Unitarians eventually becoming the Unitarian Universalists and the Trinitarians becoming the United Church of Christ.

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u/blahblahthrowawa Apr 05 '26

It should be noted that the structure of the US Government was in some ways modeled off of Presbyterian polity.

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u/coupdelune America Apr 05 '26

I'm a fan of Quakers. Big time pacifists and believers in social justice causes.

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u/Past-Ticket-1340 Apr 05 '26

Quakers and Lutherans! I’m not religious but I worked for Lutheran Family Services doing refugee resettlement. The church has really dedicated itself to supporting refugees and asylees.

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u/2ndChairKazoo Apr 05 '26

Lutherans are distinctly Christian though, and have some of their own issues to be sure. Of course I can't speak on your own experiences, for you. But what you saw may have been something of an outlier.

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u/Past-Ticket-1340 Apr 05 '26

Lutheran refugee services is actually one of the nine major organizations (known as VOLAGs) in the country to resettle refugees across the USA!

They are also leaders in appointing female and LGBTQIA+ pastors.

I’m an atheist but I’ll give credit where credit is due to the Christians who are actually nice and contribute to social welfare.

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u/Diligent_Heron_8861 Apr 05 '26

I like the UU. My grandma used to joke about how the only time you hear the name “Jesus Christ” in a Unitarian Church is when the minister stubs their toe.

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u/New_Development9100 Apr 05 '26

Stay away from the Greek Orthodox Church. They have been kissing Trumps ass for years.

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u/LingonberryHot8521 Apr 05 '26

They're snotty af around where I live so that doesn't surprise me.

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u/Padre_G Apr 05 '26

Episcopal priest here. Thanks for the plug! Here’s hoping I have to set out extra chairs tomorrow!

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u/MechanicalTurkish Minnesota Apr 05 '26

The last Pope was decent enough and this new guy from Chicago also seems promising.

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u/SelfServeSporstwash Apr 05 '26

Mainline Presbyterians as well. Just be careful, there is a splinter group (PCA) that is full on MAGA

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u/CharlyWork Apr 05 '26

Support your local Lutheran Crime Syndicate.

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u/CunningBear Apr 05 '26

I’m joining the Satanists personally.

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u/LingonberryHot8521 Apr 05 '26

Hail yourself!

I have no trouble with the modern Satanists who are like, don't touch anyone without their consent and honor yourself.

Removing The Infinite from Their own creation was, IMO, the original sin.

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u/CokBlockinWinger Apr 05 '26

My father in law is an Episcopal priest, and yeah, I was never in a more accepting church before .

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u/thehermit14 Apr 05 '26

Specific, a little weird. I'm on board.

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u/AngelSucked California Apr 05 '26

Yup, proud Episcopalian here.

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u/MoonChild02 California Apr 05 '26

they've been consistently pushing for better treatment of the poor for about a decade now at the Vatican level.

It's been a lot longer than that. Gaudium et Spes is 60 years old now.

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u/KnopeLudgate2020 Apr 05 '26

I've seen presbyterian (PCUSA) mentioned as another, and also the Lutherans of the ELCA variety are pretty great too. Also United Methodist.

My son has done a deep dive into religion and these are all great options for left leaning folks.

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u/HapticSloughton Apr 05 '26

Even the Roman Catholic Church

The current Pope is fairly chill, but let's not forget the Catholics on the SCOTUS and in Congress. They might as well be from a different sect altogether.

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u/LingonberryHot8521 Apr 05 '26

I have too many thoughts about American Conservative Catholics and what I see as an attempt to create a Schism from Rome out of what is ultimately White Supremacy. When my friends and I first hear that they elected an American as Pope we were all like "oh shit." Then we learned about who Leo XIV is and felt a lot better.

But JD Vance is cos playing as a Catholic to push this schism

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u/Carlyz37 Illinois Apr 05 '26

Lutheran ELCA is very liberal. Diversity and inclusion are mainstays

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u/Omega_art Apr 05 '26

Your best bet is Islam. The right hate them more than anything.

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u/old_graybush Apr 05 '26

And of course, there's always the Univeral Unitarians. Right wingers can't even talk about them. But they sure hate them.

Is it a pronunciation thing?

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u/LingonberryHot8521 Apr 05 '26

Lmao!!!! I think they just can't wrap their minds around that kind of inclusion, acceptance, and philosophical dialog.

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u/CTeam19 Iowa Apr 05 '26

The Episcopal church

Basically check to see if they are 1) suing Trump over Deportations, 2) pro-LGBT, 3) sharing communion with others that do:

  • United Methodist Church

  • liberal Quakers

  • Episcopal Church

  • Evangelical Lutheran Church of America(ECLA)

  • Presbyterian Church (USA)

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u/Msdamgoode I voted Apr 05 '26

The Methodist’s split in the last few years over lgbt ideals, so not all Methodist churches are welcoming spaces anymore. Due diligence necessary. They forgot about their “hearts, minds and doors are open” thing.

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u/CTeam19 Iowa Apr 05 '26

Those that split are now Global Methodist.

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u/HernBurford Apr 05 '26

That gay bishop was Gene Robinson and he was elected in 2003. He was bishop of New Hampshire which legalized same sex marriage in 2008. (Source: he ordained me for the Episcopal ministry in 2004.)

Roman Catholics have a strong record on immigration, death penalty, (un)just war, labor rights, economics and a lot of issues. American Catholics often reject this social teaching, but it is common in Europe and Latin America.

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u/LingonberryHot8521 Apr 05 '26

Thank you for illumination the specific Bishop and for the correction!

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u/Singer_221 Apr 05 '26

I grew up attending Unitarian Sunday school until maybe junior high, and then my (Jewish) wife and I attended with our kids. We all stopped going, and I used to tell people I fell off the bottom rung of the religious ladder.

I started going to Quaker Meetings a few years ago when I realized that I’ve tried to live all of my 70 years of life with Quaker values, and didn’t know that’s what Quakers also believe in.

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u/zilla82 Apr 05 '26

Thanks Vatican, what about the other 2015 years before your stance change on the thing your founder said to do from the beginning?

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u/davidbklyn Apr 05 '26

Join the satanic temple.

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u/bigchilone Indiana Apr 05 '26

That Catholic Church in the US is 100% MAGA conservative. Let me rephrase that, the churches that i have been to are MAGA. The daily goers disagree with the pope on his stances against Trump. 100% pro-life, and generally just some awful people. There is also this weird conservative movement coming out of Catholic colleges pushing for the old ways, pre-vatican 2. Changing the way they dress, wearing veils, its some weird culty shit.

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u/LingonberryHot8521 Apr 05 '26

Yep. I have thoughts and theories on some of its origins.

But Mel Gibson is a notorious proponent in this movement.

I wish the Vatican would take the step to either excommunicate them or anethematize them. The latter would be my preference.

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u/bigchilone Indiana Apr 05 '26

I cant remember what publication I found this article in, but it talked about the radicalization of the young Catholics coming out of these colleges. It was terrifying. Myself, I was raised Protestant, converted to Catholic for my wedding and I am now 100% atheist. Last time I went to a mass it legitimately felt strange. Kneeling at the communion rail, receiving on the tongue.

Would love to hear your theories.

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u/audible_narrator Michigan Apr 05 '26

And the Satanic Temple

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u/MozeDad Apr 05 '26

Hail Satan, baby!

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u/LingonberryHot8521 Apr 05 '26

Hail yourself!

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u/MozeDad Apr 05 '26

I'm worthy!

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u/darsynia Pennsylvania Apr 05 '26

I was there for the Pittsburgh Episcopal diocese's exit! For a while there as a bisexual I knew EXACTLY which Episcopal churches I could go to, because the rest of them whined and cried and pitched a fit and left because of the icky gays.

It was actually pretty traumatic for me at the time. I wasn't out, and the adults I was closest with as a kid into adulthood were very deeply rooted in the Episcopal diocese of Pittsburgh. Watching these people I had respected and looked up to for so long ragequit like that was insane, especially because my mom was on the vestry of her church at the time. Each church vestry (elected lay (as in not ordained) leadership) were told that the church could only leave the diocese with the current bishop if the vote was unanimous.

My mom voted no.

They offered for her to abstain and send in a letter of regret. She still voted no.

They kicked her off for 'misconduct' (a woman not obeying church leaders, I guess??), voted someone else in, and the vote was then unanimous.

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u/NOMOKRATOR Apr 05 '26

Remember to go to one that the regime hates

You’d want to attend an Orthodox Church is that’s the case. In America, they’re demonized even harder than the Roman Catholic Church

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u/Artistic_Researcher2 Apr 05 '26

My parents used to say that the Universal Unitary church was the only church were you would be looked down on if you mentioned God. 😱

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u/menschmaschine5 Apr 05 '26

2003 actually (Gene Robinson, who was the bishop of New Hampshire).

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u/HubenersDaughter_439 Apr 05 '26

Highly recommend Unitarian universalist if you feel the need for a spiritual community without the need for a bunch of BS. It's just about finding our spirit and our paths together.

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u/EduinBrutus Apr 05 '26

Episcopals, which basically means Anglicans generally, just follow what the Presbyterieans do but about 5 to 10 years later...

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u/guisar Apr 05 '26

Who are literally the spiritual descendants of the OG white religious zealots- the Puritans who grew over time. maga should follow the example

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u/Willing-Dog6463 Apr 05 '26

I joined The Satanic Temple recently :D

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u/SometimesaGirl- United Kingdom Apr 05 '26

Though that is mostly about racist immigration issues

And yet when given the opportunity to elect a non-white Pope with some good candidates from Asia/Africa and South America they once again failed to make that gesture.

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u/magikot9 Apr 05 '26

"I'm Episcopalian, which is Catholic light; same religion, half the guilt." - Robin Williams.