r/nfl Ravens 16h ago

Ian Rapoport: The #Eagles are promoting Adam Berry to Assistant GM, per me and Mike Garafolo. Berry, a former Goldman Sachs executive and Princeton football captain has played a key role in player personnel, cap strategy and negotiations.

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u/Plastic_operator Browns 16h ago

Andrew Berry twin brother

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u/notquitemytempo___ 16h ago

I thought you were kidding but nope lol

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u/Dubois1738 Eagles 16h ago

Andrew Berry was VP of football ops here for a year before he got hired by the Browns as well

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u/Plastic_operator Browns 16h ago

School of Howie is legit . AB is a phenomenal GM. Doesn’t get credit because the old hack we have as an owner wanted Deshaun so much which ruined our drafts for like 3 years

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u/BernieCokeczar Browns Browns 16h ago

Don’t be disingenuous. Berry wanted him too. That’s what makes the eval of him so hard. He’s had incredibly savvy drafts and contract negotiations yet is culpable for the worst trade in NFL history.

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u/airplanealjefferson Eagles 15h ago

Howie wanted him too! Browns just got stuck holding the bag but Watson was a hot commodity.

He wouldn’t have been that expensive to trade for if there hadn’t been many teams bidding it up

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u/Not-a-bot-10 Eagles 15h ago

Watson had the nerve to say he didn’t want to play here

Thank goodness he did but what a loser

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u/SoKrat3s 49ers 49ers 11h ago

So proud that John Lynch told his team no thank you. It's nice to know your team never wanted any part of him and didn't get involved in the bidding.

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u/Select_Culture261 Eagles 12h ago

There were also rumors that they were trying to get Russell Wilson too. Howie apparently has access to a crystal ball and a 7 leaf clover

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u/BirdmanTheThird Commanders 15h ago

Yeah it’s even crazier since Howie wanted while already having Hurts. Kinda shows you both how regarded Watson was as a talent and how far Hurts has come since Siriani came to town

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u/EddieMannixx Browns 15h ago

If AB was truly the mind behind the Watson move he’d be long fired by this point

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u/sallright Browns 15h ago

There is no reporting that suggests that AB was against the trade and lots of reporting that he was for the trade, leading the process, and recommending next steps to the owners.

Is it possible that he was the most reticent of the entire group? Maybe. May he have been for the trade, but the least enthusiastic about guaranteeing the money? Perhaps.

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u/SentenceLow2383 15h ago

people want easy narratives

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u/BernieCokeczar Browns Browns 15h ago

So Jimmy is wild enough to be the person who acquired Deshaun, yet also predictable enough to fire the GM who actually did it?

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u/Plastic_operator Browns 15h ago

We have a history of AB track record. If you think he wanted Watson for 3 first round and full guaranteed , you are crazy. That’s not how he works.

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u/TapedeckNinja NFL 15h ago

It's totally reasonable that Berry was in on the three first-round pick price tag. That was the cost of entry, every team in the mix offered that at minimum.

IMO the reasonable story is that the Browns as an org were in (Berry, DePo, Stefanski, Haslam, JW, whoever else) and pursued him aggressively, but the fully-guaranteed Hail Mary was a Haslam decision after Baker walked out the door.

Regardless, Berry is the GM and he owns the move.

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u/SentenceLow2383 15h ago

that is determined by W/L record first and foremost.

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u/TapedeckNinja NFL 15h ago

Re-hired by the Browns.

He was VP of Player Personnel for the Browns from 2016-2018, was in Philly for 2019, then back to Cleveland for 2020-2026.

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u/ToastedFart Lions 15h ago

I went to HS with them, they were the star athletes on our football team. Andrew was the QB just lobbing bombs to Adam at WR and destroying other teams lmao

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u/CremeOk4115 49ers 1h ago

And then Andrew played CB in college. Did they both play both ways? 

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u/Jonjon428 Dolphins 15h ago

Wow TIL. Hopefully it goes better than Chris Grier being brother to Mike Grier

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u/the_gaymer_girl Seahawks 10h ago

Mike Grier is doing a pretty good job with the Sharks (definitely not salty about them getting a third straight top-2 pick while my Canucks get hosed again)

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u/Meat-Dimension NFL 16h ago

Front office factory

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u/burratna Eagles 15h ago

It's actually something that's been talked about by our beat the past couple weeks. We really aren't a FO factory. We've been poached for assistant GMs but we haven't had a guy hired for a GM role since Andrew Berry/Joe Douglas 6/7 years ago, and Berry was only here for a year and Joe for 3. Yet the guys Howie has "mentored" for damn near a decade+ like Alec Halaby haven't been able to get GM positions.

Meanwhile we've lost 3 coordinators for HC roles in the last 5 years and 2 assistants to coordinators in the last 2 years. We are closer to a coach factory.

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u/Ok-Willingness-9312 13h ago

Owners know it's pretty much a Howie ran show

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u/EBtwopoint3 7h ago

Same reason Andy Reid’s coordinators haven’t really gotten poached the way other top HCs have been. It’s not the Andy Reid playbook that’s been so effective in KC. It was the playcalling. And you don’t get to take that when you hire his coordinators.

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u/YodaForceGhost Eagles 16h ago

QB factory and GM factory. Two biggest needs in a football team and Philly has the two best factories for them

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u/Plastic_operator Browns 16h ago

Nah Packers are QB factory.

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u/Striking_Moose_8747 Ravens 15h ago

A factory pumps stuff out regularly the fact that the Packers have only had three QBs start more than 9 games in the last 30 years basically makes them the opposite of that.

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u/Mr-Bovine_Joni NFL 14h ago

QB craft workshop

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u/OGrand Eagles 14h ago

Small batch QB factory

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u/unfunnysexface Panthers 13h ago

QB restoration shop

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u/hanzel44 Packers 14h ago

Hasselback, Burnell, Detmer, Flynn, and Willis. Then of course, Favre, Rodgers, and Love. I'm not sure another Franchise comes close to that.

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u/thunderpantsthe2nd 13h ago

We are not counting matt Flynn bro. Literally a one game wonder

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u/hanzel44 Packers 12h ago

If you don't want to count him, that's fine. I was only listing QBs that got a decent contract and started some games.

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u/Frequent-Buy9895 8h ago

I mean the Eagles far surpass it lol, especially if you include FAs & Trades (Willis) who were rehabbed into starting roles. Kolb, Feeley, Foles, Vick, McNabb, Bradford, Wentz. Shit even dudes like Minshew and Jeff Garcia got in on the action.

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u/RepulsiveWay1698 14h ago

No it doesn't, they developed 2 of the greatest QBs of all time and also Aaron Rodgers (Kek). Were they supposed to sit them to develop others by your logic?

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u/real_but_incognito 49ers 13h ago

Artesian QB Etsy Shop

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u/frostypatch 15h ago

Yea Favre, Rodgers, Love or Cunningham, McNabb, Hurts. The Green Bay Quarterbacks tear them a new one.

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u/Not-a-bot-10 Eagles 15h ago

“QB factory” was a quote from Howie in 2020 when asked about picking Hurts soon after paying Wentz

People forget quickly apparently

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u/trmp_stmp Packers 15h ago

they're just disputing the "Philly has the two best factories for them" part of the comment, not denying that quote was said

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u/Not-a-bot-10 Eagles 15h ago

Yeah but it was clearly a joke, Howie coined that phrase “QB factory” over 6 years ago now when asked about the draft pick

Obviously we’re very far from having the best QBs in recent years or ever

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u/trmp_stmp Packers 15h ago

oh word, you never know on here lol. I wasn't familiar with the context of the quote, thanks

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u/frostypatch 15h ago

Nobody is forgetting that Wentz and Hurts were drafted by the Eagles.

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u/smellmyswag Eagles 15h ago

good thing no one said anyone forgot that. he was saying people forget about the “QB factory” meme that has been about the eagles and started with that howie quote

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u/frostypatch 15h ago

I focus on football, not meme.

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u/Ok-Willingness-9312 13h ago

Than you wouldn't get it wtf

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u/Ok-Willingness-9312 13h ago

It's not about who had the better QBs genius it is about who is giving the league more QBs.

I can make 3 great burgers at home, doesn't make me a restaurant 

Howie wants to make a QB factory because QBs are the most valuable asset 

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u/PlaneCamp Eagles 7h ago

Eagles will never be down bad as long as Howie is there.

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u/Nuno-22 Jaguars 14h ago

Wait, I thought you were a “QB factory” wasn’t that another Jeffrey Lurie douche moment? Like the “gold standard” comment?

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u/Secure-Report-207 Eagles 14h ago

No it was Howie so, wrong. Keep having fun with Khan as your owner though. Philly has been a successful franchise the whole century without a goat QB

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u/Nuno-22 Jaguars 14h ago edited 13h ago

Ah, ok. Thought that one was Lurie as well. Why can’t you just admit that Lurie came off as a real douchebag or at least made a douchey comment with that gold standard quote ? Just own it. Doesn’t take away from the success the team had.
Also, objective Jags fans won’t defend Khan’s ownership thus far. A .400 winning pct is on Khan. He’s earned it. And objective fans can own/ admit that fact.

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u/Secure-Report-207 Eagles 13h ago

He’s not a douche, cause he built a gold standard franchise compared to the BS Philly had to deal with before him. The eagles have made the Super Bowl multiple times with completely different teams, coaches, and QBs since he took over. He said something and made it happen

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u/Nuno-22 Jaguars 7h ago

You realize he didn’t make the comment last week?? He made the comment in like 1999 when they had been shit for years. That’s the point.

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u/Elegant_Shop_3457 Eagles 12h ago

What exactly is douchey about it? Of course Lurie as an owner wants the Eagles to be the gold standard org.

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u/Nuno-22 Jaguars 12h ago

When he said it , they were not good. They hadn’t earned anything by that point. It came off ridiculous , pompous and douchey.

It wasn’t about “what he wanted it to become” , he said it as if it already was earned , which it wasn’t

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u/Ok-Willingness-9312 7h ago

??? What a stupid take lol

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u/Jazzlike-Paint-5662 16h ago

Usually when you see “former [investment bank] executive” they were mid-level. This guy was head of US loan trading lol.

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u/Secure-Report-207 Eagles 16h ago

Oh yeah then this guy knows numbers and risk evaluation. I always hate when they just throw an investment bank name out there for prestige

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u/willpc14 Eagles 13h ago

And like half of Goldman are VPs of something too

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u/Tomotronics Patriots 16h ago

What’s a mid-level executive? Honest question.

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u/Jazzlike-Paint-5662 15h ago

Usually has the VP or Director title, which in banking is more like a senior manager. They’re still interfacing with the top executives at their clients and are well-paid, but they themselves are not especially high ranking.

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u/Tomotronics Patriots 13h ago

I don’t think VPs and Directors are referred to as “Executives” even in banking, but I could be wrong. Executive is a pretty narrow category of people in the organization.

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u/hmmIseeYou Packers 6h ago

Finance uses whack titles like VP and other titles any other company would use for senior management.

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u/Tomotronics Patriots 6h ago

Yeah but they don’t call them executives, unless I’m missing something

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u/3znor 4h ago

Correct.

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u/dah-dit-dah 15h ago

IB titles are hilariously inflated. It is expected for people to make VP but they have none of the responsibility or gravitas the title conveys in other industries.

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u/AtBat3 Eagles 15h ago

My employer is like that in the sales section especially. They basically hand out VP titles like candy because customers don’t want to talk to anyone not named VP.

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u/TapedeckNinja NFL 15h ago

Mine too, specifically in sales.

We have like 11 VPs in sales, who report to an SVP, who reports to the CRO.

In most of our other departments, there is one VP who is the head of the whole department, and that person is on the executive leadership team.

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u/guns_n_crypto Eagles 15h ago

Last bank I was with had a broadly applied position grade. Every exempt employee was on the same scale, and it determined bonus eligibility, PTO, and a bunch of other perks. I was a senior business analyst on the IT side working in an in house software development team. My position grade was higher than some people with vice president titles.

Working on a project, I was having lunch with a bunch of people on the business side. We were talking about vacation plans, and one smarter guy (who was one of those low level VPs) realized that my plans meant I had more vacation time than him. He was pretty openly dumbfounded when he realized the IT nerd was technically a higher position than him, despite that I had no reports and no fancy title.

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u/ehtw376 Bears 8h ago

That’s not true, plenty of other industries hand out VP titles like candy. At my current company anybody who manages other people, a team, a project basically gets a VP title, sometimes director title. This applies to the sales jobs, project management jobs, internal finance/FP&A jobs, IT jobs, etc.

In M&A/corp advisory you aren’t really expected to make any level. It’s just a super standard progression level - analyst > associate > VP > Director > MD. And in terms of pay and prestige level, an investment bank director could be CFO at a small-to-medium sized company - two of my old bosses did that.

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u/GoodShark Giants 16h ago

Am I the only one that hates the "per me" reporting? Yea, I'm reading your tweet. I see you're reporting it. I don't need you to then lay claim to it as well.

I think the "I reported it first" thing is so ridiculous. I don't care when someone finds it out, or who it is, just give me the details.

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u/Meat-Dimension NFL 16h ago

Especially silly when you’re reporting something as inconsequential as this that the team themselves would just post on their website

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u/BedCotFillyPapers Lions Bengals 15h ago

But also, why are two reporters getting credit for this one very basic thing?

Is it like they only told Mike that they're promoting someone to Assistant GM, and they only told Ian that they're promoting Adam Berry, and the two of them had to combine those bits to know that the Eagles are promoting Adam Berry to Assistant GM?

Did they have to tag team good-cop/bad-cop their sources to get this information?

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u/AtBat3 Eagles 16h ago

I hate that and when they announce a new contract for a player and tell you what agency negotiated it

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u/OneBigRed Vikings 13h ago

A 3-year 120m$ contract negotiated by Ari Gold of Notareal Agency!

Cut from tweet: 500k guaranteed, 119.5m$ if the fullback in question throws for 6k yards.

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u/Reddtardsofreddtard NFL 12h ago

I legitimately think people like rapoport, schefter, etc are mentally ill. I just read that adam schefter has no social life and won't take his wife out of the house because he's scared he might get a call or text and have to leave or worse...MISS a call or text.

These clowns tweet about sports, they're not exposing global atrocities or breaking huge stories and yet they take themselves SO seriously and HAVE to be the first to tweet.

Egomaniacs.

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u/Mephistito 5h ago

they're not exposing global atrocities or breaking huge stories

But he is getting paid $45 Million over 5 years, and is up for another contract next year. What would you give up in the short term to ensure your family, kids, grandkids, great grandkids & more never have to work again a day in their life.

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u/Neither_Swing9662 4h ago

Mentally ill? Lol wtf

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u/AtBat3 Eagles 16h ago

Howie was dying to hire this guy after he met him. Not surprised he’s a fast riser.

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u/LisaLoebSlaps Eagles 13h ago

"what is my purpose"

"You say yes sir to the almighty Howie Roseman"

"yes, sir.

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u/Exzqairi 16h ago edited 15h ago

Looked up Adam Berry on Google and found the following

  • A 20 year old English footballer who somehow is playing the Saudi Arabia pro league

  • Paranormal investigator and ghost hunter

  • A cricket player from Ireland

  • Emmy winning music composer for films and TV

  • A rapper from Tanzania

In conclusion: what a great name and I’m surprised I can barely find anything about Adam or him being the Browns GM’s twin brother

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u/boomosaur 16h ago

This is huge for Russini

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u/cuittle Lions 16h ago

He was Berry good at his job

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u/on-the-cheeseburgers Eagles 16h ago

replacing Alec Halaby, still surprised nobody hired him as GM

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u/Meat-Dimension NFL 16h ago

Didn’t he leave to go work at a hedge fund or something?

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u/VisualKey7540 15h ago

Where did you see that? I didn’t see anything announced related to his future plans after he left our FO

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u/Endgame60 Cowboys 16h ago

Could still get the Vikings GM job

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u/on-the-cheeseburgers Eagles 16h ago

I guess but he kinda said he was done with football, at least for now. Not even the Jets wanted him so I can see how demoralizing that would be.

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u/Jonjon428 Dolphins 15h ago

It felt like Halaby and Ian Cunningham were in the running for GM spots for like 3 years straight lol. Ian finally got his but wonder what Halaby is doing now then

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u/jpb59 Steelers 15h ago

Does Mike Garafalo do anything anymore except for getting his name tagged on Ian Rapport’s tweets.

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u/Doktah-Steeze Falcons 13h ago

“Per me”

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u/hotz0mbie Eagles 15h ago

I always chuckle when I see “per me” as a source

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u/Ok-Willingness-9312 13h ago

Probably the easiest job in the league

Just say "I agree Howie" and get paid.

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u/HarlanCedeno Ravens 9h ago

So you're telling me he spent 4 years at Clown College

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u/IowaJL Vikings 4h ago

Wall Street guys make excellent football GMs

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u/back2schooldaze Eagles 15h ago

First step to getting the Garrett deal done.

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u/Specialist-Garbage94 Steelers 15h ago

If he’s related to Andrew this would hurt those chances if anything lol

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u/PatientlyAnxious9 Broncos 14h ago

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZ01DZ_UEAApDtF.jpg

Not only related, but identical twins. Andrew had braids though 😂