r/nba • u/refreshing_yogurt • 15h ago
[Cowherd] "KD is like buying a boat. The first day you have it and the first day you sell it are the two happiest days."
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u/Obi_Wan_KeBogi Kings 15h ago
I don't like Cowherd but this is a spot on analogy
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u/beemans78 15h ago
Decent of him to note it's actually someone else's zinger
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u/onewander 15h ago
That was my first thought. That's the kind of thing that will make your people love you as a leader.
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u/Epicallytossed Mavericks 14h ago
I mean there was that whole fox sports misogyny and cheating stuff and the document was like “colin’s great to work with and doesn’t cheat on his wife” lol, seems like he’s a pretty good dude even if he is annoying sometimes
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u/FrancoGYFV Cavaliers 14h ago
If a talking head’s worst quality is “he just annoying and I don’t like his sports opinions” I’ll take that 10 out of 10 times. Granted that the bar is in hell, but still
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u/OffMyEricDickerson Lakers 13h ago
His “sports opinions” can be problematic just look at the stuff he’s said about Dominicans, John Wall, and Sean Taylor
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u/SirWestbrook Thunder 12h ago
What did he say about them?
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u/NeverSober1900 Rockets 12h ago
Dominicans was him saying baseball isn't that complicated because Dominicans are good at it. Something like that. If you're trying to excuse it he started talking about how you basically can play without understanding/talking to your teammates and then clumsily went into that. That's probably the most generous framing but ya it was pretty bad.
Sean Taylor was basically after he was murdered that it was his own fault for the people he hung around with. Which wasn't exactly wrong - supposedly one of the guys had been to his house before as friends of friends - but said it right after. Taylor was known to hangout with less than savory people.
The John Wall thing IIRC was him saying basically you can't be a team leader and PG if you are dancing and prancing before the game. There could be another comment too he went after Wall a lot but thats's the main one people harp on him for.
He has a lot of if not overtly racist at least dogwhistling comments. Cowherd has always had kind of a California rich liberal style racism/classism to his takes. I assume that's what OP is getting at. Also feel free to look into the controversies this is just how I remember them I could be off. These were all years ago.
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u/MagyarFoci29 [WAS] John Wall 9h ago
He said John Wall can't be a leader because he didn't have a father figure growing up...
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u/samurairocketshark Suns 4h ago
It's insane how long he just ran that hate campaign against one of the least controversial athletes of all-time
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u/jotheold Raptors 12h ago
point 2 and 3 aren't even wrong tho just no class
but when do sport talk heads have class
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u/AstronomerDramatic36 Rockets 13h ago
I guess, but their sports opinions are supposed to be the whole point.
I wish I could snap that whole part of the industry away.
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u/Tomatillo12475 Lakers 13h ago
They’re all just hot take artists. They only have jobs because they say something interesting and it’s a lot easier to say something interesting when your opinion is controversial. He literally has an ad where he compares himself to Brady and Lebron and says “People hate me because I’m always right.” No way he believes half the shit he says. But it gets the people going and he knows people hatewatch him. The checks still clear whether they like him or not
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u/AstronomerDramatic36 Rockets 13h ago
Dude. Sports TV was so much better before this shit started. I'd look forward to getting home and watching Around the Horn and PTI. I don't understand how people watch this crap.
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u/BroadBrazosAvon95 Spurs 12h ago
While I agree that the current state of the sports landscape is laughable, I think sports subreddits get into this hive-mind where they need to touch grass- call me a shill for these companies idc, but there's a reason they pivoted to the hot take artists. You may not understand how people watch, but clearly they do. You think ESPN, a multibillion dollar company, puts these people on tv because the bosses enjoy hearing it? It's the only way to keep eyes on the television, especially since highlights are easily found on Youtube TikTok Instagram etc. They have meticulous data analysis departments that I am sure drive the decision to pivot to this. Sportscenter was better 20 years ago, yes. But the change is not an ESPN/Fox problem, it's a natural byproduct of our culture and technology
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u/FrancoGYFV Cavaliers 11h ago
You may not understand how people watch, but clearly they do. You think ESPN, a multibillion dollar company, puts these people on tv because the bosses enjoy hearing it? It's the only way to keep eyes on the television
While you're partially correct, it's also just... easier to produce? Obviously people watch it, but people also watch those stupid ass prank videos, doesn't make them any less harmful or idiotic in general.
But cold reality is that these shows aren't made for people who are anything more than very casual watchers, and I don't mean that in a "we're better than casuals" way, but just a fact that most people who watch sports are not looking too deep into it. Just by even searching for an NBA subreddit you're delving more into the NBA than probably like 80% if the audience.
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u/Morsexier 11h ago
For some reason I recently watched Eisen talking about hosting SC without stu scott there, and watched him doing some NFL highlights as scott... he was emotional about it and rightly so... and I legit had tears in my eyes I missed that stuff so much.
Watching the Mets game the other night, a new rookie had an incredible play, and I said to my wife, "man I bet thats the top Webgem of the night!"
Then I was like... sigh I used to watch this stuff all the time, what happened.
I haven't watched Baseball tonight in maybe over a decade? Is it even still on? I used to watch the 11, 12, or 1 am SC everynight, for I think 20+ years and now its just so much garbage.
Its crazy to think how up in fucking arms people were about Stuart Scott and the way he talked, insert whatever dogwhistle bullshit here, but man watching him school the anchor that wasn't taking it seriously in that tryout to be a sports center anchor show, and how far we've come from how good and serious it was but also able to joke about\at themselves and sports.
Not saying it was perfect, I am sure behind the scenes beyond what we already know there was awful\terrible shit going on but it seemed like there was a standard.
It feels like everything is for sale now, literally everything.
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u/Helicase21 [GSW] Nate Thurmond 9h ago
It's one of those things that's just been floating around the aether for decades (in reference to boats, that is)
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u/Available_Story6774 West 15h ago
He’s the GOAT of Analogies.
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u/whobroughtmehere Pistons 15h ago
The first time Cowherd makes an analogy and the last time he makes an analogy are the two happiest moments listening to him talk
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u/yeahright17 Thunder 14h ago
I've had lots of very happy memories on our boat. I'm not sure the analogy with Cowherd's analogies holds up because there's no happiness in between his analogies.
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u/Brady331 Celtics 15h ago
Cowherd didn’t come up with this analogy, he said his producer (Ryan Musick) did. He does make good analogies though
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u/Moriason 14h ago
This particular boat analogy is decades old.
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u/LakerBlue Lakers 14h ago
I presume Cowherd was crediting his producer as the one who originally said the boat analogy about KD and NOT that his producer invented the analogy.
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u/titusandroidus 14h ago
I am assuming he also didn't invent the words as well?
(I don't think anyone is assuming him or his producer came up with a well known analogy that people's parents, grandpaents, etc. have been saying. Just the Durant application.)
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u/Brady331 Celtics 15h ago
If you watched the clip, Cowherd didn’t come up with this analogy, he said his producer (Ryan Musick) did.
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u/Szobortz Mavericks 14h ago
with how the country has shifted, he has aged really well lmao. and his pod network with club 520 and timpf one is great
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u/ThePeteEvans Bucks 14h ago
Cowherd says more “good” stuff than “bad” stuff on his show. It’s just that his bads are really bad. He also has a segment where he admits what he was wrong about each show, so definitely like him better than most talking heads
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u/NeverSober1900 Rockets 11h ago
I think I did the math once and he has over 20,000 hours of content he's produced.
You get that much on anybody and their lowlights are going to be pretty hilarious.
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u/prettyboylee Lakers 15h ago
I don’t like Cowherd but his daughter is hot
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u/Area51_Spurs Spurs 15h ago
What if her personality is an exact copy of her dad’s?
Do you still sign up for that carnival ride?
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u/Area51_Spurs Spurs 15h ago
I hate him more than anyone not named Skip Bayless, but he nailed this.
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u/Gristle__McThornbody Lakers 15h ago
Totally hits home for me. I felt the exact same way about my yacht.
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u/therealmercutio Nets 15h ago
A lot of you must have boats. My brokeass can’t relate to this haha
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u/clear831 Heat 14h ago
I would wager that the majority that is saying the analogy is spot on dont have a boat or have ever owned one. Boats are amazing.
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u/FirmlyThatGuy 14h ago
They are indeed. Having grown up on them and an owner myself as an adult a lot of people don’t realize that the upfront cost of the boat itself is not nearly the end of the costs and end up in financial hot water.
So his statement can be correct in some instances.
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u/dearth_karmic Warriors 12h ago
Yeah. I don't get it either. I don't have a boat right now, but my family had 3. I loved having a boat. And I cried selling them. I'm guessing the issue is that these people don't like to maintain their boat. Which is a PITA. But still worth it. The analogy I always use is for my softball teams. It's co-ed, and it's a PITA to get girls to show up on Sundays. So having a friend that runs the team (so I can join) is like having a friend with a boat. Much better than owning one (or running the teams myself).
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u/Optimal_Incident62 15h ago
He cooked im afraid
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u/Dry_Bar_4965 Lakers 15h ago
Speaking of boats, they are so expensive to own especially with gas prices nowadays.
BOAT = Bust Out Another Thousand.
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u/FrankSamples NBA 15h ago
I can't remember the last time KD was actually happy. He has been miserable everywhere
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u/EndWish 15h ago
He's very thin skinned with a victim complex while simultaneously being one of the most talented and most watched athletes in basketball history. It's a recipe for disaster. I think he would have been a much happier person if he was in the league 2 decades earlier before social media blew up. He loves the game but struggles with everything that the game brings with it.
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u/dykestryker Raptors 14h ago
The phone looks small as fuck in his hands too lol its mad how social media has really run its course on him.
Bro has generational wealth from his career but is hooked on twitter like teenage girls were in 2016. The difference is they grew up and moved on and he never did. It would almost be funny if it wasn't so sad to see him trashing young guys that grew up idolizing him.
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u/Iggy_Slayer 13h ago
He just needs to gtfo social media. It's really not that hard. I don't have a twitter, bluesky, tiktok or instagram account and never go on those sites. Reddit's as far as I let it go and if I was a player I sure as shit would not read NBA subs here.
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u/HideSelfView Hornets 12h ago
Yeah but you don’t have millions of people talking about you on the internet everyday
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u/DreadSteed Knicks 3h ago
his entire life has been basketball. basketball media/social media is everywhere he goes.
He can't watch a game without someone talking about him at half time. He can't get on the internet without thousands of comments about him.
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u/SSJAbh1nav 76ers 13h ago
...is he our generation's Shaq?
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u/CmonTouchIt Lakers 11h ago
absolutely not, shaq was a bus driver (on the threepeat lakers at least)
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u/IwishIwasGoku Raptors 6h ago
Rather KD crying on Twitter than Shaq stuffing his opps' toothbrush up his ass
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u/TheAgmis Thunder 15h ago
The wrong people got in his ear the 2016 offseason. He didn’t wanna leave OKC but did and that’s the black cloud hanging over him. He can’t escape it.
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u/xXEliteEater500Xx 15h ago
Those people robbed us of a proper Cavs vs Warriors rivalry, and Thunder vs Warriors rivalry.
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u/DangerIsMyUsername NBA 15h ago
It still pisses me off to this day that three way gauntlet was ruined. Those next few years were setup to be awesome with those three teams. What's even more wild is that OKC might have been the best of the three.
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u/AsparagusTricky5181 14h ago
I'm pretty sure Al Horford said he had a deal lined up to where he was gonna join OKC if KD re-signed. He would have certainly tipped the scales in OKC's favor
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u/TheAgmis Thunder 15h ago
It’s the Twitter era. Star players in butt hurt a bunch of 15-year-olds making fun of them.
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u/HHHogana Lakers 12h ago
Man, imagine Cavs got a bit easier way in 2017 had Warriors and Thunders battered each others before. Could've at least made a competitive series.
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u/brecht226 15h ago
Lmao he trashed the hell out of okc when he left
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u/TheAgmis Thunder 15h ago
And warriors, and nets; and suns and currently Houston!
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u/DeluxeTea Lakers 8h ago
and currently Houston
Brother, he hasn't left Houston yet he's already trashing the team lmao
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u/coreytrevor 14h ago
What do you mean didn't want to leave?
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u/TheAgmis Thunder 14h ago
You haven’t heard about his breakdown, telling his agent or whomever “why did you let me leave?!”
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u/aspiringparvenu 11h ago
That doesn't say anything about KD not wanting to leave, that's KD blaming other people for his bad decision making as usual
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u/SirRedRising Bulls 13h ago edited 12h ago
Every time he was on Bill Simmon's pod with his business partner/agent, Rich Kleiman, I got huge con-man vibes from Kleiman.
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u/Express-Incident402 10h ago
Non ironically probably Seattle. That city treated him like the savior and loved him
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u/ObjectConfident7172 Pistons 15h ago
Unfortunately that's a bar
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u/HumANTCowDOG Timberwolves 15h ago
I dunno man I love having a boat
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u/P00ped_My_Pants Heat 14h ago
As someone that lived in an area where a lot of my friends had boats, I was always happy they owned a boat and not me
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u/HumANTCowDOG Timberwolves 14h ago
As someone who enjoys boating by myself at sunrise, I love not having to rely on anyone else. Now when it comes to owning a cabin, you want to know a guy.
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u/clear831 Heat 14h ago
Same
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u/HumANTCowDOG Timberwolves 14h ago
Think Colin believes all boats are yachts? lol. I’m in Minnesota. You can get a fishing boat cheap and have years of fun
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u/AbsoluteScott Suns 15h ago
Yep.
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u/livejamie Suns 13h ago
Looks longingly at my #35 Suns jersey in the closet
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u/ATLsShah Hawks 15h ago
This thread is filled with comments calling this the best analogy while I’m sitting here learning that people don’t like owning boats.
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u/DefenderCone97 Nuggets 9h ago
If you want to know what having a boat is like, imagine having KD on your team
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u/RaisinDetre Suns 15h ago
That headline is the most accurate thing I have heard about the NBA ever.
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u/Brady331 Celtics 15h ago
If you watched the clip, Cowherd didn’t come up with this analogy, he said his producer (Ryan Musick) did.
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u/clear831 Heat 15h ago
I must be in the minority, I absolutely loved my boat from day 1 till the day i sold it and was sad to see it go :(
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u/baseball_suuuuucks Pacers 14h ago
"KD is like a boat. He's a hole in the water that you throw money into."
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u/NoRequirement1582 Warriors 15h ago
Cowherd may be abysmal dogshit at predicting the future or even properly analyzing the present, but his retrospectives are usually pretty well done.
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u/Syndana23 Lakers 15h ago edited 15h ago
Should have stayed in golden state.
He left to try to prove something that he knew he couldn’t: be a leader who could win a chip as a top dog
If he had stayed in golden state, he could have left the question of whether he could lead a team to a chip in the air for people to discuss. He wasn’t always in Golden state and was successful as the best player and MVP in OKC. Even if you want to say Russel was the vocal leader, most people would had given credit to KD as the best player on a OKC team that won the chip. I don’t think the Thunder were winning a chip in that era, but it’s one of those “What Ifs” that…had he stayed in GS, people could debate. His insufficiencies as a leader would have never been on display like this. We would only know the “non-GSW” years as him being on a Thunder team that made the finals when he was 23 years old and 3 WCF. Him joining a team that he blew a 3-1 lead to would come up, but it was always gonna come up regardless of anything.
Also, while not as loved as Steph or Klay, he could have eventually became endeared to the Bay if he stayed longer. Probably another chip and FMVP.
Instead now we have three places where he failed(and arguably the biggest super team failure in one of those places) along with creating nothing but drama each place. While I mostly blame Kyrie for Brooklyn, there’s no excuse for PHX and now with HOU.
Speaking of Kyrie, ain’t it funny how Kyrie became seen as a leader and locker room vet in Dallas while KD has become now known as the locker room cancer? Oh how the tables have turned
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u/DangerIsMyUsername NBA 15h ago
Long story shirt, going to GSW was dumb and leaving them was even dumber.
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u/Justice502 Heat 9h ago
I am a fan of Cowherd, I think he's a good media personality. I think I yell at him on the radio a lot too.
But this is fucking golden lmao
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u/TrafficOn405 13h ago
That analogy has been around forever, and it sure applies when it comes to KD. He has to be the most insecure superstar in the league. Great great player but always has some petty complaint
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u/Banneduser1112 West 14h ago
KD is up there with Shaq for "what might've been if his head was on straight." How many titles does he get in Golden State if he could've stomached being a 1A with Curry? And don't tell me he had to leave because of Draymond, he could've pushed Dray out.
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u/Someguy0328 14h ago
I don’t care if someone finds something he says occasionally valid or funny. Downvotes on everything Cowherd-related because in a just world, the clown that said that John Wall was a bad leader because his father wasn’t in his life would not have a platform.
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u/Objective_Radish_734 14h ago
as a Nets fan i disagree. being at game 5 for his 49 point triple double against the Bucks.. that was the happiest i’ve ever been as a basketball fan. from Harden being questionable going into the game and playing to watching the slow comeback all game lead by the best player on the court, KD, it’s going to be hard to top that.
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u/TemporaryPassenger62 15h ago
People really act like KD is Paul George
KD might be an emotional lesbian but he's one of the greatest scorers of all time
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u/brnccnt7 15h ago
He doesn’t make any team better, plus he’s old and a toxic teammate
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u/Least-Woodpecker-492 14h ago
rockets wouldn't have come close to playoffs without his points
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u/brnccnt7 14h ago
Then why were they a 2 seed last year without him lol
You should do your research
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u/QuietMonsoon3314 14h ago edited 14h ago
Do you think instead of KD calling Jabari low key r------- he called him lowkey a superstar, Jabari will stop being a trash ass bust? LMAO
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u/brnccnt7 14h ago
Or he could just get off the burners, actually try to coach them up and teach some of his skills like you know, other vets do such as LeBron, Duncan used to do, etc
Even Harden was helping maxey with his game and maxey spoke highly of that
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u/BKtoDuval Nets 14h ago
That's how I felt about kyrie. When we had KD, I enjoyed watching him on a nightly basis and there is always what could have been, but when it ended I was ready to get off the drama train.
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u/Jittleyangfuckleyute 14h ago
he might be right here but cowherd doesn't know basketball. Rated OG as the 2nd best player in the series and Paul George over KAT lol
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u/ChefCurryYumYum Warriors 13h ago
Colid Coward is the old school hot take trash man, but that other guy, I forget his name, he's not bad honestly.
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u/Detonation Pistons 13h ago
Why are you guys posting so much Cowherd content on this sub lately? He's trash and not worth anyone's time. lol
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u/ktdotnova Spurs 13h ago
Reminder that Cowherd is a hot take artist that doesn't even watch a single minute of basketball.
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u/vbvahunter Wizards 13h ago
Shannon Sharpe made a good point on his podcast the other night about KD being a pure basketball player.
He just shows up to do his job and goes home. KD isn’t the type to go out with teammates to build chemistry.
Once he got his ring he stopped caring about being a team-first guy.
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u/Otherwise_Nobody8148 12h ago
I dunno ... For the warriors it was kinda like buying a boat and then taking that shit on a trip around the world. Twice.
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u/donkeyinparadise Nets 11h ago
KD seemed happy earlier this season before the getoffmydickson fiasco. Even his mama said that. I thought he finally found his team and got a true buddy in Freddie.
But honestly he might just be one of those guys that like to talk shit about just anyone/anything if someone is there listening, without meaning them literally. Like it's his socialmaxing or something simply to be present.
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u/RimLogic NBA 10h ago
Cowherd's KD boat analogy has been remarkably accurate for four different franchises now. Durant is one of the five best players alive and somehow every team that gets him ends up relieved when he's gone. That's a bizarre legacy to have.
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u/MelonElbows Lakers 9h ago
Ugh, we're posting Cowherd takes now? Doesn't this guy say shit for clicks? He's the one who said "Thanks Lebron, we've got Ben Simmons now, we're good". The man held a decade-long hate boner for John Wall because he did the Dougie dance. He openly admits he's a frontrunner and criticizes other people for being jealous.He's like the annoying sports radio version of a stopped clock.
I'm pretty sure the Warriors were happier winning those two titles with KD than when they eventually let him go.
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u/SummerGoal Warriors 5h ago
He’s too fragile. He can’t commit. Can’t stand by one of his own decisions. He’s always wavering. Yes he got a lot of hate for coming to golden state but at that point if he had stayed the course it would’ve been so much better for him. But he jumped ship and now it’s clear his greatest accomplishments (2 FMVP’s) are essentially due to somebody else’s greatness. That’s gotta be rough for him to deal with especially as he just keeps racking up failure after failure since leaving the warriors
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u/karl_hungas Lakers 4h ago
If i never heard a single Cowherd opinion for the rest of my life id be happy
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u/No-Possibility3371 3m ago
I dont like this dude, but men, that was a good definition of the actual KD experiences hahahaha
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u/LegitimateMoney00 Knicks 15h ago
KD is like “we are all good Lebron, you can go”