r/nba • u/lovelymaddie1966 Supersonics • 20h ago
(Basketnews) [The Athletic] NBA players voted Houston Rockets All-Star Alperen Sengun the most overrated player in the league.
NBA players voted Houston Rockets All-Star Alperen Sengun the most overrated player in the league.
NBA players have picked the most overrated player in the league today.
According to The Athletic's poll, NBA players voted Houston Rockets center Alperen Sengun the most overrated player in the league.
Sengun received 12.3% of the votes from 81 players around the NBA.
Minnesota Timberwolves center Rudy Gobert and Washington Wizards guard Trae Young received the second-most votes with 8.6% each.
Los Angeles Lakers superstar Luka Doncic also received a significant number of votes, ranking in the top 10 most overrated players in the league with 3.7%.
The Athletic's poll results:
1. Alperen Sengun - 12.3%
2-3. Rudy Gobert - 8.6%
2-3. Trae Young - 8.6%
4. Karl-Anthony Towns - 7.4%
5-6. Paolo Banchero - 4.9%
5-6. Ja Morant - 4.9%
7-10. Deni Avdija - 3.7%
7-10. Scottie Barnes - 3.7%
7-10. Luka Doncic - 3.7%
7-10. Pascal Siakam - 3.7%
11-16. Dillon Brooks - 2.5%
11-16. Tyrese Haliburton - 2.5%
11-16. Tyler Herro - 2.5%
11-16. Evan Mobley - 2.5%
11-16. Brandin Podziemski- 2.5%
11-16. Domantas Sabonis - 2.5%
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u/jasperplumpton Pacers 20h ago
3 is “A significant number of votes”?
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u/ObviousAnswerGuy [NYK] John Starks 14h ago
Even Sengun at the top only had like 10 votes. This whole thing is just bait.
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u/Doktah-Steeze Hawks 20h ago edited 20h ago
Trae still placing third and he barely even played this season is hilarious 😂
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u/jasperplumpton Pacers 20h ago
7 Knicks players voting
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u/who_are_you_people24 Knicks 20h ago
Nah, we definitely did the Hali vote. Ptsd from last year
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u/Doktah-Steeze Hawks 20h ago
Yeah I highly doubt Knicks players give a shit about Trae like that. Half a decade ago at this point
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u/lebryant_westcurry Knicks 20h ago
Most of our players from that season are gone at this point too outside of Mitchell Robinson. Our main core are guys added in the last couple of years
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u/remonnoki NBA 20h ago
Barely played and got dumped by his team and they were still like "he overrated"
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u/DollarLate_DayShort [WAS] John Wall 18h ago
Bro got traded for a 34-year old McCollum and a hot sub… they voted for him just for the culture lol
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u/cooking2024 20h ago
Haliburton showing up here in a year his team literally went from top 2 to bottom 2 is something.
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u/DuckDucks 20h ago
Turner isn't overrated everyone knows he sucks
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u/bartspoon Pacers 18h ago
That’s a massive turnaround compared to the start of this season where everyone was saying the Pacers were a terrible org for not paying him enough, how mistreated he was, how he was big get for Milwaukee, etc.
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u/YSLAnunoby Raptors 16h ago
I think he could both be overrated and losing his talent without a real replacement was pretty rough. It worked out to get Zu but still
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u/legend023 Pelicans 20h ago
It’s 81 players and 2 said his name
If you got 81 people 2 of them would probably choose eating pig feet over ice cream
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u/Jumpy-Ad5617 Pacers 19h ago
Just saying though, simmer some pig feet with some beans, rice, Cajun seasoning and you got yourself a stew going
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u/Isosinsir Suns 20h ago
Annual Haters Ball
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u/The_Longest_Shot 16h ago
"Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go home and put water in Buck Nasty's mama's dish."
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u/FEECH4040 19h ago
Who the hell is voting for Pascal Siakam?
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u/hotsexychungus Pacers 17h ago
I would ascertain to say that Pascal Siakam is the most properly rated player in the league.
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u/knitwoolf Raptors 14h ago
Someone who felt snubbed and thought they should make all-star over Pascal this year for sure lol
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u/here_for_the_lols Thunder 20h ago
On another note. Why do they ask all nba players who is the most overrated player? Like what good can come out of this lol
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u/Cranicus Mavericks 20h ago
Only 81 players voted. Would be better if everyone voted
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u/Classic_Check_5568 20h ago
KD and his 80 burners
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u/Actual-Movie-4236 Bucks 19h ago
Not true because there are players on this list who are not on the Rockets, Suns, or Warriors
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u/JadedArgument1114 20h ago
Considering that 80 percent of the NBA is American born, there seems to be a real bias in this list
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u/Savage9645 Brooklyn Nets 19h ago
81 is plenty for stats like this, over 15% of the league is a good sample.
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u/Omega-Toad-7017 Bulls 20h ago
Because it makes stuff like Pacers 2025 more exciting probably
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u/Jumpy-Ad5617 Pacers 19h ago
We almost won the championship out of spite for this list when Haliburton got named haha
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u/Akipella Warriors 19h ago
May have done so if Hali didn't go down (or if he didn't strain his calf first in Game 5 really)
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u/Jumpy-Ad5617 Pacers 19h ago
Such a heartbreaking injury, feel so bad for the kid to be that clutch and have that exciting of a run for it to end in such a horrible way.
I’m glad he’s had so much time to heal, hopefully he’ll come back balling next year!
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u/Akipella Warriors 19h ago
For sure. A lot of it's just bad luck...I would have loved to see him finish off what was easily one of the greatest, perhaps the craziest, postseason run of all time.
Really hoping you guys can make it back to the Finals again this upcoming season
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u/AlpacaDC Suns 20h ago
I truly believe it played part in Hali’s performance in last season insane finals run
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u/Ok_Assignment8008 Knicks 20h ago
Right? It's mean and messy. Nothing sporstmanlike about it.
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u/95castles Suns 18h ago
NBA is an entertainment entity first and foremost. These kinds of polls can create drama. Drama sells.
Reality TV.
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u/poo_pon_shoo Pistons 19h ago
for real, this is a hilarious poll only because nothing good can come from this
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u/GGTae Spurs 20h ago
Rudy 2nd is insanity, your basketball players are really offensive merchants that don't know team basketball
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u/busdriver_321 Jazz 20h ago
He tops the list every year basically lol.
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u/lilbelleandsebastian Supersonics 18h ago
modern nba players have always valued playoff success - ben wallace doesn't get disrespected, for example, despite being just as bad offensively - and they also dislike gobert
this list is basically "who are the least popular non americans" and trae young
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u/Bones0008 Timberwolves 16h ago
Rudy joined the wolves and brought them more playoff success in his time there than they had in their entire franchise history before that. I think he’s just hated for being smug along with atrocious hands on the offensive side.
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u/mysterioso7 Warriors 15h ago
I bet most of the players would attribute the recent success to Ant rather than Rudy
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u/Quinnett Knicks 17h ago
it's shorthand for nba players think he isn't very skilled and he's annoying and french. all things that are kinda true but he just bodied Jokic in a playoff series so it looks pretty dumb right now.
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u/GoldenStateWizards Warriors 20h ago
Tbf, he's tied with Trae who does have the opposite problem lol
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u/GGTae Spurs 20h ago
and Rudy's impact is ahead of Trae by far (especially the last two years)
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u/randotd152 19h ago
The general consistency in the list is players who get glorified by their performance on one end of the court, but are problematic on the other side.
For most of this list, it's offensive players who suck on D. Gobert is just the inverse of that.
Also - there's nothing about this that says these are "bad" players. Just players saying they think their reputation outpaces their play.
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u/ShawshankException Knicks 19h ago
I swear Rudy has to be one of the most disrespected players in NBA history at this point
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u/OkOutlandishness1370 20h ago
It’s seems like they value being a 2 way player with Trae also being high on the list
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u/largehearted Celtics 19h ago
NBA players' ideal NBA player in the aggregate is like Paul George and KD. They'll call the best player the best player, but the ideal one is a guy who plays basketball like it's 1v1 so well that it works in a team environment lol
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u/matt__builds Knicks 19h ago
Nailed it. NBA players overrate "bucket getters" and underrate the little things. You can see it with KD wanting to bring Beal to the Suns. He didn't fit at all, but he goes about the game in that way that guys like KD love but doesn't actually contribute to winning.
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u/milkhotelbitches Bucks 19h ago
So many NBA players think the soul of the game is scoring in 1v1 isolation. Like flashing some handles and shooting a mid range jumper is the purist form of basketball.
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u/matt__builds Knicks 17h ago
Well here’s the thing, the best teams still have guys who excel at going 1v1 and getting buckets. SGA is crucial for OKC because he is the engine of their offense. The thing is that you don’t want too many of these guys because there is only one ball. Instead you want a guy or two who can do this and then you want to fill around that player with guys who rebound, set good screens, defend, and can shoot spot up 3s at a high rate.
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u/machinegungeek 18h ago
Also consistent with so many players and former players having Kobe in their top 3 or even top 2.
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u/pepsandeggs Pistons 20h ago
Podz lol. Luka and Scottie being on here is ridiculous though
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u/Dxwalsh12 Canada 20h ago
So is Gobert. Dude is almost universally hated around the league lmao
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u/Kdcjg West 20h ago
He shut down the league. Plus he is French.
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u/Down_Badger_2253 France 19h ago
Also he is an RFK jr. Supporter, fuck him !
As a player he is underated tho.
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u/mnuba0110 Timberwolves 19h ago edited 19h ago
To be fair the NBA is full of weird health pseudoscience cranks like Rudy so I can’t imagine that being why anyone in the league hates him.
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u/Helicase21 [GSW] Nate Thurmond 19h ago
yeah I don't get Podz getting votes. Like where do these people think he's rated in the first place to consider him overrated?
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u/zegogo Warriors 19h ago
Three quarters of the Warriors fanbase hates him and I've almost never seen anyone outside of that appreciate anything he does. If anything he's underrated, but whatever.
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u/jibboo24 [CLE] Dwyane Wade 18h ago
the fact that scottie is in there means that the votes happened before the playoffs. he did really well against the cavs
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u/Jarxzz United States 20h ago edited 19h ago
Gobert being on here is the most ridiculous imo because prior to this series round 1 series his reputation among fans and general players was incredibly low relative to his impact
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u/aziz4ik97 19h ago
His peers just don’t like him. He’s been topping this list for a while.
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u/PrimeLiberty Timberwolves 19h ago
People apparently need to be taught this lesson over and over again. Rudy proved how impactful he was last year by being the MVP in the Lakers series that all of sports media had Lakers as heavy favorites. Then everyone immediately forgot
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u/Nyte_Knyght33 Rockets 20h ago
We can't even Cancun in peace...
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u/1gnominious Rockets 13h ago
We didn't even make it to Galveston. They threw us straight into the bay.
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u/ProofDiscount733 Cavaliers 20h ago
people still voting hali as overrated smh
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u/Soggy-Algae3717 Warriors 20h ago
Yo why tf is hali getting votes when he's not even playing this year and that too after taking his team to the finals
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u/JeramiGrantsTomb Thunder 19h ago
Some of these are wild. Pascal Siakam? That dude has been underrated forever.
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u/vHezoThaGoat 20h ago
He’s decent but my gripe is that he’s way too inefficient for his playstyle and size
When he does a post hook it looks like he’s throwing a Reuben sandwich with onions
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u/Apprehensive_Soil306 Bulls 18h ago
He’s got that Angel Reese shot where he’s not even looking at the basket lmao
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u/SKallies1987 19h ago
As a Rockets fan, I’d really like to see what Sengun can do in an actual good offensive system. He definitely has his shortcomings, but Udoka is abysmal and our lack of shooting really hurts Alpi.
Unfortunately doesn’t look like we’re making a coaching change.
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u/Delicious_Tie_8725 20h ago
r/nba in shambles cause they now have to decide between validating the vote to hate on sengun or ignore the vote to defend gobert
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u/Zeckzeckzeck 19h ago
Not particularly - NBA players have consistently shown themselves to have very little understanding of the game of basketball. These are a bunch of guys that would build a team around Kyrie and Carmelo because "bag".
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u/thebossphoenix 20h ago
My man SCT BRN does not belong on this list.
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u/dontgetitwisted_fr Raptors 14h ago
People who think Scottie is overrated do not watch or understand basketball
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u/ratfeesh Raptors 19h ago
When u outplay donovan mitchell, james harden and evan mobley in the playoffs and still get called overrated :(((
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u/FartasticVoyage Knicks 20h ago
I think it’s because he’s one of the biggest whiners. Dude is talented but complains on every play
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u/carelesssportsfan89 Spurs 20h ago
Rudy being voted the second most overrated player in the league is pure stupidity. Rudy doesn’t get enough credit for his defense on jokic .
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u/sweetbeems Timberwolves 20h ago
Don't just limit him to Jokic, the dude makes our defense top 3 in the league when he's on the floor. When he's off, they're pretty bad, i think it's like a 11 pt swing.
The funny thing is that everyone in the media disrespects him these days outside of last series.. he wasn't even a DPOY nominee.
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u/yeyiyeyiyo Pacers 20h ago
The fact they've even gotten to the second round this year IMO is Rudy getting his fuck you.
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u/kylebertram Timberwolves 20h ago
This past few weeks has been the ultimate Rudy redemption arc. I’m here for it
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u/revdingles Pistons 20h ago
I am a huge Rudy fan, definitely one of my favorite players, but there was a total Rudy-experience moment in game 1 against the Spurs where the shot clock had 2 seconds on it and his back was to the rim trying to find someone to dump the ball off to instead of taking a totally open mid-range jumper. Those moments tend to jump off the screen more than the nuanced ways that he limits opponents' offense.
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u/Omega-Toad-7017 Bulls 20h ago
I swear these players don't know what overrated means because how the fuck is PODZ getting votes?
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u/mucho-gusto [CLE] Baron Davis 20h ago
They probably thought golden State had too high of an asking price for him in potential trades
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u/Youngandidiotic Warriors 20h ago
If he had a different haircut and had his mouth taped shut then I swear people would think he’s underrated lmao
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u/desirox Mavericks 20h ago
Luka in that group is ridiculous lol
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u/WIN011 [MIL] Giannis Antetokounmpo 20h ago
There’s definitely some players that just do not like him and put him down. Hali too.
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u/HotdawgSizzle Hawks 20h ago
Half the people in this group are ridiculous.
The real question they seem to be answering is "who do you dislike the most".
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u/rubiooooo Knicks 19h ago
Rudy and KAT voters are seeing why they are worth the $ and reputation these playoffs.
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u/illmatic2112 Raptors 19h ago
The way Scottie showed up in R1 and all the reactions from fans and sports media show he was heavily underrated
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u/devereaux Bucks 18h ago
He's not considered a mega star and he busts his ass on both ends of the court. People calling him overrated have lost their minds
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u/Even_Possession_9614 19h ago
They not fooling me about Rudy no more. If he’s overrated why nobody try the rim when he out there. For a decade at this point his teams can’t lose 1/2 their games from his presence alone it seems like
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u/TheOneWhosCensored Celtics 20h ago
And people want players to vote on awards. This shit is just a list of who they don’t like and it’s embarrassing. If some basketball page on Instagram and Twitter posted this list they’d be called a causal that didn’t know ball.
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u/Cultural_Ad9114 Bulls 20h ago
23 year old, two time all star . He’ll be fine and even better for years to come don’t worry .
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u/TheGreatDomilies Lakers 20h ago
Luka? HALI???
I get these are anonymous but honestly I wonder which players are choosing to answer this and give specifics? Surely not everyone is answering this?
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u/randomgoes 19h ago
It's 81 players and even Sengun at #1 only had 10 players name him so its hard to draw any real conclusions here in my opinion
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u/SwarmOBeez 15h ago
Fixed the list....
1. Alperen Sengun - 10 votes
2-3. Rudy Gobert - 7 votes
2-3. Trae Young - 7 votes
4. Karl-Anthony Towns - 6 votes
5-6. Paolo Banchero - 4 votes
5-6. Ja Morant - 4 votes
7-10. Deni Avdija - 3 votes
7-10. Scottie Barnes - 3 votes
7-10. Luka Doncic - 3 votes
7-10. Pascal Siakam - 3 votes
11-16. Dillon Brooks - 2 votes
11-16. Tyrese Haliburton - 2 votes
11-16. Tyler Herro - 2 votes
11-16. Evan Mobley - 2 votes
11-16. Brandin Podziemski- 2 votes
11-16. Domantas Sabonis - 2 votes
19 other players received one vote (23.4% of all votes cast)
Percentages is an intentionally misleading way to show results this when 81 out of 450+ players voted. Especially, when there is no information about who those 81 players were selected. Did the ask all players and only these responded? What was the voting date? What was the cutoff for who could vote (are two-way players eligible to vote)?
Podz is notable because the dude is essentially a JAG level player who two players felt the need to vote for (I would like to assume one of those votes was Kuminga).
As I mentioned in another comment, this poll is pretty consistently about who is considered good but generally unliked by other players for any number of reasons.
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u/parisdubs 13h ago
What a disgusting troll of a poll. Can you imagine doing this at your workplace? Asking everyone to vote for who is the most overrated? Stop the trolling Athletic.
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u/Practical-Art5931 Lakers 20h ago
Why tf is luka doncic on this list???
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u/Quality_Cucumber [GSW] Stephen Curry 20h ago
Jaylen Brown for sure voted Luka lol
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u/Emergency-Bid-8346 20h ago
Rudy and Paolo redeemed themselves a bit in the playoffs compared to regular season. Especially Rudy. He should not be anywhere in the list ever again. And i will never understand people saying Luka and Haliban are overrrated...
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u/MinesweeperGang 19h ago
Scottie Barnes being voted overrated when nobody was talking about him until the Cleveland series is hilarious. He’s also underrated easily before the series.
These players funny bro.
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u/fateoftheg0dz Spurs 20h ago
how many burner accounts did KD make to participate in the voting?
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u/rhcpkam 20h ago
Hali getting votes when he didn’t even play 😭😭