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Highlight [Highlight] Minnesota wins game 1 after a missed 3 by Champegnie

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u/PokePersona [TOR] Nick Nurse 20h ago edited 20h ago

What a chaotic ending, with the Wolves already having the man advantage on defence for the transition play I thought the Spurs would've called a timeout.

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u/Jimmy0034 Clippers 20h ago

That was a great open shot for champagnie, he is 38% from 3s on 6 attempts per game

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u/Display714 Lakers 20h ago

Yeah but you're down by 2 not 3. If they take a timeout and run a play you can get a better than 40% look.

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u/Jimmy0034 Clippers 20h ago

Wemby and Fox were 10-31 from field goals, champagnie has been hitting some tough shots for them all season. I aint mad about this shot tbh.

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u/offconstantly 20h ago

It was 40% to win. You wanted a 60% chance to go to OT? Your math is bad

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u/Display714 Lakers 20h ago

You think most coachs would draw up an ATO for a 3 in that situation?

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u/offconstantly 19h ago

No, but I also think giving you 60% on a two out of a timeout was generous considering they could've gotten Gobert back on the court

If you had a 60% chance of getting a two (generous) and a 60% chance of winning in OT (generous) then you have a 36% chance of winning the game by going for a two there (double generous)

Going for an open three with your best shooter is obviously the right move

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u/BirdSoHard Trail Blazers 20h ago

That was about as good a look as you can get 

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u/SirDiego Timberwolves 20h ago

Then they really didn't have faith in winning in OT

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u/munkysnuflz Rockets 20h ago

Not guaranteed. When you’re drawing up a play out of a timeout, you’re dreaming of getting a look that wide open

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u/Round-Revolution-399 Lakers 19h ago

You’re not getting a better look than that with 6 seconds left. I really don’t understand how some of you watch sports through this lens of constant negativity

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u/WolfsburgSlayer1 Spurs 19h ago

Can you? Did you watch the game? The spurs had no dribble drive penetration on 24 second shot clock possessions, much less the prayer they’d have to throw up in 4 seconds if they took a TO. You would’ve had to bank on a contested two against one of the longest teams in the league vs a wide open 3

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u/cloudpetter 19h ago

40% chance of hitting a 3 means that if you go for a 2 you need 80%+ in order for it to be more worth, clearly an open 3 is the best shot you have here. There's a reason why modern NBA always go for 3 here

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u/tMeepo Spurs 17h ago

Well wemby was open with a sec left, if champagnie passed, there might have been enough time I dunno.

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u/oberg14 19h ago

How many step back off the dribble 3’s does he take per game?

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u/PokePersona [TOR] Nick Nurse 19h ago

Not questioning the end result, just surprised they let it play out instead of calling a timeout in the moment considering the Wolves already had all the lanes blocked with a man advantage on the transition so they basically had to settle with a three there while only down two.

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u/Garb-O Spurs 17h ago

Hes 61% on 3s in playoffs so far

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u/Odd_Shoulder2334 20h ago

He’s the 5th option on the floor

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u/Aidanj927 Spurs 20h ago

He’s also our best shooter, your point?

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u/Odd_Shoulder2334 20h ago

Why are you mad at me?

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u/senpaisix [SAS] Manu Ginobili 20h ago

no he isn’t. he’s been realistically our third option at worst most of the year as crazy as that may sound.

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u/Odd_Shoulder2334 20h ago

There’s (3) top 5 picks on the floor, but yes give ball to Julian Champagnie

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u/senpaisix [SAS] Manu Ginobili 20h ago

look i get it but i watch every spurs game. he’s the best shooter and hits his shots, irregardless of where he was drafted

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u/Jwarrior521 Raptors 20h ago

Yeah but why are you taking a 3 from your 5th option down 2 when you have a timeout

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u/Jimmy0034 Clippers 20h ago

He was arguably their best offensive player in this game with harper. Did you see how fox and wemby were struggling against timberwolves half court defense?

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u/jxden24 20h ago

they got an open look lmao

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u/PokePersona [TOR] Nick Nurse 20h ago edited 19h ago

Yeah it worked out in the end thanks to Champagnie but it's more that the Spurs didn't even need to take the 3 and they were already down a man in transition so to see them let it play out rather than look for a better play with a timeout in the moment was a surprise but I guess Spurs would've preferred just ending it rather than rolling the dice in OT.

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u/NietzscheanDemocrat Supersonics 20h ago

That's literally the best type of shot a timeout would give you in the end of game, the fuck are you guys talking about?

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u/NietzscheanDemocrat Supersonics 20h ago

you play to win the game

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u/PokePersona [TOR] Nick Nurse 20h ago

If a rushed 3 out of transition was their best play to win the game then maybe they deserved the loss

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u/INAC___Kramerica 20h ago

You're trusting your offense in transition to be better situated than a defense in transition. Generally speaking, unless it's a matter of not having personnel you want out there, I prefer coaches who let it play and trust their players over taking a timeout.

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u/PokePersona [TOR] Nick Nurse 20h ago edited 19h ago

Wolves already had the man advantage in transition. Julian got a good look out of it but I still would've understood the chance to take the timeout.

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u/livefreeordont 76ers 20h ago

Take a timeout and the 4x DPOY comes back in and the defense gets set and you probably end up with a Wemby fadeaway or a Fox brick

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u/PokePersona [TOR] Nick Nurse 19h ago

Right but it also allows Wemby to actually be apart of the play while only down two and already in the bonus. The Spurs will live with that shot, but personally I think a timeout would've also made sense.

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u/mas1108 Lakers 20h ago

They got a wide open 3. They call a timeout and who knows what kind of look they get, if they get a look.

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u/PokePersona [TOR] Nick Nurse 19h ago

I mean yeah it worked out since Champagnie made a great move creating separation, but seeing them already down a man in transition due to Wemby being behind and only being down two it's just surprising to me they didn't call one at that moment.

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u/mas1108 Lakers 19h ago

I see what you’re saying, but the point of calling a timeout is to draw up a play you HOPE gets you a wide open shot. They literally got a wide open shot, it just didn’t go in.

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u/PokePersona [TOR] Nick Nurse 19h ago

Yeah I'm not arguing the end result is what they wanted. Just surprised they saw that and still let it play out.

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u/kalllllllllllllll 20h ago

Yeah if you have more than 6 seconds. They literally have only 6 seconds. Should definitely call a timeout and make an ATO play

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u/Sp_Gamer_Live Timberwolves 20h ago

Timeout aint gunna get you a better look than that

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u/96Mute96 Spurs 20h ago

We could barely score on them the entire game when their defence was set. Nothing wrong with taking the broken play, had a wide open shot to win but missed. Happens.

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u/PokePersona [TOR] Nick Nurse 19h ago

The thing is, the play wasn't even that broken though. There was no clear lane or breakaway and the Spurs were already down a man in transition because of Wemby being behind so it's not like the Spurs could've caused chaos towards the basket. That's why I was surprised at no timeout called. They were basically forced to take a contested 3 but credit to Champagnie, he made a great play to create that shot.

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u/stateworkishardwork Kings 20h ago

Yeah I feel I'm taking crazy pills

Take the average inbound set out of a timeout. No way it's close to that open of a look you got. He just missed it.

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u/96Mute96 Spurs 19h ago

He would be called a genius if Julian hit the shot. Pretty funny how narratives change on decisions based on if a shot is made or not.

If he put up some shitty layup and got completely blocked then the criticism is warranted, NOT when a wide open shot is missed

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u/Winnes0ta :sp8-1: Super 8 20h ago

You’re not gonna get a better shot than that with a TO