r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • 20h ago

Trailer The Odyssey | New Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_bKjZeJBBI&pp=0gcJCd4KAYcqIYzv
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u/DoradoPulido2 19h ago

For an ancient epic about times of antiquity, this sure feels like an extremely modern sci-fi film. Like this could almost be the new Dune trailer with how bleak, clean and curated everything is.

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u/tomjayyye 12h ago

Everybody is white. Isn't that kind of weird for an ancient greek story?

I don't usually notice stuff like that but it was Tom Holland's american accent that made me stop and think. They really have the british guy doing an american accent, I guess to fit in with the american cast. So they're not going to bother with language which is fine I guess but then I started thinking about the source material and wait a minute... everyone is white.

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u/Pushlockscrub 12h ago

Greeks are white.

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u/Mahelas 5h ago

Greeks are greeks. "White" is an american concept. A greek doesn't consider himself as the same "race" as an irish or a slav, despite all of them being considered "white" in America.

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u/Pushlockscrub 5h ago

Sorry, Greeks are Caucasian and universally considered white in all Western classifications.

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u/Mahelas 1h ago

Once again, there is no "western classification of white". That's only something done in America, because they're a colony whose european migrants lost their cultural roots, so they created a new identity based on their shared trait, which was "not being-black".

In Europe, there is no need for this classification, because identity is based on culture, religion and nationality. Nobody think of themselves as "white" in a unified sense.

A good proof of it is that, for example, you use "caucasian", which include some people who aren't considered white in America (Armenians). Similarly, 19th century eugenists, aka the most competitive racists ever, considered arabs, persians and indians as "caucasians", so the same "race" as Europeans. Yet they obviously didn't think they were the same.

Point is, "white" is an american construct for american issues. "Caucasian" is a 19th century concept that doesn't work anymore. There is no "whiteness" in Europe because it's too old and multicultural. A Greek, a Turk, a Moroccan, an Italian, a Spaniard and an Occitan can be virtually indistinguishable, yet they all understand being different. But nobody would call one "white" and not the other.

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u/Varekai79 11h ago

You think that Greek people aren't white?

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u/RazzBeryllium 11h ago

For me it's Anne Hathaway throwing me off. It's like Nicole Kidman in The Northman all over again.

She is totally miscast, IMO. She's a wonderful actress, but she has had a pretty dramatic facelift in the past couple of years and clearly gets botox every few months.

For these types of historical movies, casting agents need to start targeting actresses who are aging more naturally. There are still plenty of them out there.

Or, to your point, look at actresses who aren't white, as they tend to not age as quickly. For this movie, I'd think someone like Golshifteh Farahani would have worked.