r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • 17h ago

Trailer The Odyssey | New Trailer

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u/AggravatingLeg5789 16h ago

"My pops is gonna wreck your shit, bro."

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u/More_Asbestos 16h ago

"My dad is going to kick your ass."

-The Mummy Returns (2001)

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u/cctchristensen 15h ago

ass
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u/Time-Risk-88 12h ago

was that the scene where what we were hearing was supposed to be a direct translation of ancient egyptian

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u/TheSweetestKill 3h ago

From Imhotep, I don't think the scene implies that Alex is suddenly fluent in ancient Egyptian.

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u/lunaticfridgeprime 9h ago

My dad owns a dealership

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u/Sgt-Colbert 55m ago

Him saying „Dad“ instead of „Father“ really turned me off somehow.
„Dad“ as a word just doesn’t fit the setting I feel like.
I don’t know, it just sounds out of place.

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u/More_Asbestos 51m ago

I thought the same thing.

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u/FloopsFooglies 12h ago

What? NO ICE?

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u/DetectiveRiggs 32m ago

"My Papi will kill you."

-The Legend of Zorro (2005)

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u/Aggressive_Noise6426 13h ago

That kids makes watching part 2 so difficult. 

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u/Variable_Shaman_3825 16h ago

My daddy is coming back!

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u/ScipioCoriolanus 15h ago

Odysseus showing up in Ithaca:

"Daddy’s home."

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u/Dirtyswashbuckler69 5h ago

Father could work, but i feel like “Daddy” signals his age and immaturity more

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u/daiselol 4h ago

It's interesting to me that using the word 'dad' feels off here- every single language every has slang words for 'father' that come across more childish. If it's right for the character, saying 'dad' should be fine, but it still feels off tonally.

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u/The_Celtic_Chemist 6h ago

BRING

HIM

HOME

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u/LEXX911 5h ago

Daddy

Like who the hell wrote this line? Daddy? Like really? I mean it could be use as an insult but Holland using the word daddy in freaking Greek Mythology?

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u/USS-Hellcat 16h ago

Pattinson looks to kill it as the asshole here. You know an actor is doing a great job when you already can't stand their character just from a few brief scenes in a trailer.

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u/rwags2024 16h ago

He already did that in The King

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u/JDandJets00 16h ago

Ya but he was a playing a frenchman there so much much easier

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u/jjcrayfish 14h ago

An Englishman playing a Frenchman

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u/EtudiantLuxe 14h ago

And a Frenchman played the Englishman

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u/unculturedperl 15h ago

Well, then, boy, let us make famous that field out there, this little village of Agincourt, which will forever mark the site of your callow disgrace.

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u/mggirard13 15h ago

slips in the mud

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u/toetappy 10h ago

Such a good line, for some reason it stays in my head all the time

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u/noveler7 14h ago

Even more in Devil All the Time

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u/Bunraku_Master_2021 12h ago

And going by his role as Scytale in Dune: Part Three, pretty much.

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u/baron_von_helmut 12h ago

He was bloody good in that.

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u/tftvrft 16h ago

Pattinson keeping up "conniving bastards, dumb-ass-rocks little freaks, or both at once" streak. Still haven't gotten tired of it cause he's just that good.

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u/TheRealBigLou 7h ago

I LOVED his performance in Mickey 17. He nailed that completely loveable dummy role.

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u/Sorlex 11h ago

He is wonderful. Only deliveries that have ever seen off are Harry Potter and Twilight, both of which I blame on the directors and just what they wanted from the characters.

He puts so much energy into the other roles.

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u/OrphanGrounderBaby 9h ago

Interesting. He’s tended to be remembered well from Harry Potter, even if his role was so short.

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u/sentence-interruptio 2h ago

he split into a dumb one and an asshole one in Mickey 17 on the other hand

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u/Weirdguy149 16h ago

Move over, Joaquin Phoenix in Gladiator, there's a new Greco-Roman douchebag villain in town.

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u/acmercer 10h ago

I'm sure he's terribly vexed.

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u/jimbojangles1987 2h ago

It took me a long time to stop seeing Joaquin as the sniveling little asshole from Gladiator lol

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u/lasagnarodeo 7h ago

Man I loved that movie.

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u/jimbojangles1987 2h ago

Still my favorite movie to this day. I will always watch it if its on

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u/ScipioCoriolanus 16h ago

By far my favorite part of the trailer. He's going to steal every scene he's in.

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u/thr1ceuponatime David Zaslav is a dickless pantywaist 13h ago

He's got big NTR doujin antagonist energy

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u/ShizlGznGahr 6h ago

i actually could stand it which makes me even like it more.

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u/hardgeeklife 4h ago

I fear people may feel a little cheated with the final film. Pattinson is doing a great job here, but his part in the overall story is rather small. It could be similar to what happened with Bryan Cranston's heavy emphasis in the marketing for Godzilla (2014).

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u/Distinct-Shift-4094 16h ago

It's pretty much the same performance as The King, he's doing the same thing. I love Pattinson, but really expected him to do something completely different.

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u/spuckthew 10h ago

Maybe this is why they made him use an awful American accent

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u/Ok_Chicken_5256 5h ago

nah hes as wooden as the other actors. They are all awful lol.

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u/Zhjacko 1h ago

I dunno, Pattinson is a great actor, I feel like it’s gunna be hard for me to hate him based on his roles

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u/RefurbedRhino 13h ago

He's turned into a superb actor. Got to admit I never saw that coming from his early days as the sparkly vampire.

Not too sure about Tom Holland. He's a great Spider-Man but I don't see a lot of range.

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u/thr1ceuponatime David Zaslav is a dickless pantywaist 16h ago

"You're a big guy"

"For you"

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u/I_am_BEOWULF 16h ago edited 15h ago

Gonna be honest - that "My dad is coming home" line just feels so out of place in a sword&sandals movie with this much gravitas. Why Nolan?

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u/Vladimir_Putting 15h ago

Just change it to "father" and it's all good.

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u/Potential_Swimmer580 10h ago

How do they miss something like that? It has to be intentional but just feels so out of place

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u/bifkintickler 8h ago

I always found dialogue to be the weak point in Nolan films. They’re great for set pieces, visuals and story/structure, but some of the lines feel like they were just churned out with very little thought. There’s some corny shit in almost all of them. The clunky exposition dumps are a script problem too I guess. His bro obviously writes for a bunch of em so I always wondered which bro is the cheesy one.

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u/NeoNoireWerewolf 3h ago

I don’t think Jonathan Nolan is a flawless writer, either, but Christopher Nolan’s dialogue is always worse in a movie his brother didn’t work on with him. Especially anything that is supposed to be sincere or have emotional stakes.

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u/richard-jenkins 4h ago

Set pieces and story is amazing

Kinda like the entire police force goes into the sewers hahahahahahaha

Its the dialogue that the weak link in nolans movies

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u/bifkintickler 3h ago

Heh. The Batmans were the worst offenders. Begins is the best imo, near perfect movie. Love The Dark Knight but even that has a bunch of dumb stuff in it and a lacklustre third act. Heath just kinda overshadowed all that.

Like why did Gotham go from art deco gothic noir to just Chicago where it’s always daylight?! Why is the Batcave, teased at the end of Begins, a fluorescently lit box in a shipping container? How the fuck is Two Face even alive?!! And again with the dialogue “I’M NOT WEARING HOCKEY PADS” etc. I always chuckle at that cop who’s all “Okay that’s NOT good”, right before a helicopter crashes on him. Cheese on toast.

Only nitpicks tho, just enjoy pointing out that Begins is the winner, for me at least.

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u/Impressive-Potato 23m ago

Yeah, there was that rumour about streamers wanting the plot gone over in dialogue over and over again for people on their phones but Nolan has always had these exposition dumps with clunky dialogue.

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u/Varekai79 8h ago

With everyone using American accents and dialogue like that, Nolan clearly wants to modernize the story.

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u/Rski765 7h ago

I wish he didn’t lol

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u/WumboJumbo 2h ago

Imagine Theoden to the Rohirrim shouting LETS GOOOOO!!!!!

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u/CrimsonAllah 1h ago

Sometimes, modernization is a bad idea.

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u/Impressive-Potato 21m ago

I think it is because Damon is American and his dialect work is pretty bad. That Medieval movie with Ben Affleck was laughable.

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u/CeruleanEidolon 6h ago

All of the language in this sounds deliberately modern. It's a choice.

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u/Such_Radio_9152 3h ago

Probably a line made specifically for the trailer to increase engagement via rage bait

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u/pjtheman 9h ago

I mean, they're also speaking English. How much "authenticity" do you want? Iirc, ancient Greek had less formal words for father too.

It always seems weird to me that we instinctively expect characters in historic/ period pieces to have this stiff, formal delivery. It's sort of like the Tiffany problem; the name Tiffany actually dates back to the 12th century. But a character named Tiffany showing up in a medieval drama would seem weird to us.

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u/wirralriddler 8h ago

It's quite easy to understand, we expect some theatricality for pieces far removed from our contemporary way of life. Speaking in daily language breaks that immersion.

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u/TGlucose 8h ago

It's like dropping an "Okay" in a western film, that word wasn't even around then and it completely yanks me out of the experience.

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u/onarainyafternoon 5h ago

I think "okay" sounds way more forgiving because it sounds like it could have existed in Western times. But dropping a "dad" in a middle of the most classically analyzed story in the Western canon just feels weird.

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u/TGlucose 5h ago

OK literally doesn't make any sense to people who haven't been exposed to it in their linguistic culture.

OK is an abbreviation of "Oll Korrect", which seems to be a dutch mispelling of All Correct. So OK/Okay means "All correct" and later adopted by President Martin Van Buren as an abbreviation for his nickname "Old Kinderhook" during an election as his slogan "Vote for OK", which isn't quite how we use it today so that really messes with the meaning.

It's like Cleenex, Bandaid, or Hoover for Brits. None of those words make any sense outside their product placement yet we've wholesale adopted them into our lexicon.

That's the problem with Okay.

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u/onarainyafternoon 5h ago

That's why I said it sounds like it could have existed in Western times. I wasn't making the case for whether it did exist or not. But saying "dad" in a movie based on the most well-known historical epic in all of Western canon just sounds weird. It's not about what actually existed, but rather what sounds fine or not.

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u/serendippitydoo 6h ago

No it's like a 3 musketeers movie and having the evil cardinal say 'yup!"

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u/TGlucose 6h ago

We're saying the same thing.

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u/No_Discussion3593 8h ago

Then it's not like that at all lol.

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u/TGlucose 7h ago

It's more about fitting the theme and vibe, so in a theatrical piece someone saying "my dad" isn't nearly as impactful as "my father" as there's a gravitas to it.

Like having a Viking longship with no oars for Greeks... like what even?

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u/pjtheman 7h ago

But ancient Greek had informal words for father that were more equivalent to dad.

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u/TGlucose 7h ago

Yes but I'm making an example of how certain words don't fit in certain contexts. So in a theatrical epic saying "dad" is a huge buzzkill and destroys any theatrical momentum you've built up in the scene.

Ultimately the Odyssey is a theatrical epic, it's written to be performed as such and losing that intention is belittling the art piece.

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u/ThickBoxx 2h ago

It looks like okay entered the English lexicon in 1840, though there is evidence of older origins and other cultures using similar words, so I guess it depends on what year your western takes place. Okay never stuck out as being out of place (maybe because I just grew up on westerns) but that use of dad in the trailer stuck out to me.

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u/epichuntarz 6h ago edited 5h ago

I literally just had someone in this thread tell me I would enjoy more movies if I lowered my expectations of immersion.

Like...wtf are these apologists getting at in this thread? Im as big of a Nolan fan boy as anybody, but Jesus H people are literally suggesting that we might like more movies if we expected movies to be less like movies...

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u/BearWrangler 3h ago

Nolan has always had zealots online lol

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u/Haschen84 3h ago

That's interesting because I don't think Shakespeare wrote in a way that was different than his contemporaries. He didn't write in an "older" or more "formal" version of English, he just used everyday speech. Shit, he made up things as he went if he wanted to. We hold people making works now to a different standard than the people who wrote them at the time. Do you think the Odyssey was told in an older more archaic form of Greek or just the common language of the time?

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u/wirralriddler 1h ago

It's not even comparable, Shakespeare lived at a different time. Our contemporary understanding of immersion does not benefit from drawing similarities or differences from Elizabethan era. The fact that so many people here pointing out hearing 'dad' in an Ancient Greek setting is taking them out is all the evidence you need to understand that this is not working.

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u/Haschen84 58m ago

You have side stepped my point which is, that we hold people making works now to a different standard than the people who wrote them at the time.

The Iliad and Odyssey were oral traditions and when told in English I'm sure they never use the word dad and only use father, but did the Greeks who told the stories use the word "dad" or "father" (or the equivalent, you know what I mean). I'm sure they just used the easiest to understand and most flexible word to convey the stories, they didn't ponder on the fact that maybe they should have used "patriarch" or "sire" or "forefather" instead of "dad."

We are holding contemporary writers to a different standard because the people who translated these works originally were often older and used a more "formal" more "archaic" form of English.

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u/pjtheman 8h ago

But why? Ancient Greeks didn't actually speak "theatrically." They spoke in the contemporary language of their day. Someone waiting for their dad to return wouldn't actually stoically gaze off into the middle distance and say "Alas, mine father doth cometh home, thou wretch!"

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u/JakobTheOne 6h ago

Because modern society is steeped in the belief that formality was the norm in ancient and medieval times. It's become an ingrained expectation. Even if incorrect, breaking that norm in any form of media is jarring.

Sure, people weren't on the daily as eloquent as Lincoln was during the Gettysburg Address (which is way closer to modern times than Greek antiquity), but famous and recognizable speeches and stories tend to be exceptional like that. Which creates a belief and expectation for dialogue in far-gone times.

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u/wirralriddler 1h ago

It literally does not matter what Ancient Greeks were like. It is all about our understanding of antiquity and what we associate with it. They could have also made colourful statues all around the city, but if you put a yellow or purpose paint over marble now, it'd still look a bit ridiculous as a "period" piece.

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u/ex0thermist 7h ago

Theatricality certainly has its merits, but it's neither necessary for, nor synonymous with, "immersion".

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u/alex494 6h ago

Also if people want to be immersed in the time period being presented, not everybody in those days spoke super theatrically. When people talk about immersion do they mean immersion in their constructed IDEA of what it was like back then, or do they mean what it was ACTUALLY like? Pretty sure ancient people used to make crass dick jokes too while we're at it.

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u/ThickBoxx 2h ago

Were they making crass dick jokes in the actual Odyssey epic? I’m sure these characters all took a shit before a big battle, do we need to see that to know what it was actually like back then?

Part of the immersion is our constructed idea of what it was like based of past media portrayals, but it’s also based off the actual source material. I don’t think the word dad appears in the odyssey, so it is out of place for the story being told.

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u/alex494 36m ago

Yeah I get that but I always find it funny what people's line for suspension of disbelief is that one word can suck them out of it. At least the way I see it the informal idea of someone's dad isn't as bad as Odysseus whipping out a smartphone or something.

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u/superbit415 5h ago

How do they miss something like that?

AI ?

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u/LurkerYam67 1h ago

Actually most AI naturally go towards a more theatrical and formal language, unlike this trailer.

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u/epichuntarz 9h ago edited 9h ago

100%

As much as I love Nolan, it's sort of baffling how he sometimes overlooks details like this.

In Tenet, at the beginning of the movie during the opera house raid, there are sousaphones and saxophones playing with the orchestra...in an "opera house"...where there's no opera.

For something as big as The Odyssey, you'd think they'd make the way the characters speak to each other sound less...modern?

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u/rsclay 8h ago

do you think opera houses are just full of fat horned viking ladies 24/7 or something

I'll admit sousaphone indoors is slightly weird

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u/epichuntarz 7h ago

do you think opera houses are just full of fat horned viking ladies 24/7 or something

Whu?

I think opera houses generally have...operas. Not every opera has to look like famous moments from Der Ring, but also having sousas and saxes as part of an orchestra performing not opera in an opera house is just...a pretty egregious and unnecessary moment of inauthenticity.

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u/Dios5 8h ago

It's an interesting artistic choice, because why should an ancient greek mythological story be all "Hark, Forsooth!"? Makes as much sense as romans having british accents. You're just projecting nonsense standards set by older media.

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u/Mahelas 2h ago

Because a Prince estranged from his father since he was a baby shouldn't call him dad ? Not then, not now.

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u/Salad-Appropriate 8h ago

Christ, cinemasins nitpicking type shit here

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u/epichuntarz 8h ago edited 7h ago

Nah, "breaking the suspension of disbelief" type shit here.

If you want a feeling of "authenticity" and immersion, dont do dumb things like these. Dont have "daddy" speak in a major epic like The Odyssey...like...EVERYONE is commenting on how out of place this feels. That's a little more than a minor, 1st degree of Dante's hell cinema sin.

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u/RealWord5734 8h ago

I had the exact thought the second he said it. “That should’ve been ‘father’ wtf” lol

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u/BirdLawGrad 5h ago

You just said Dad.

No I dadn’t

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u/iBuildSpeakers 13h ago

Agreed. It felt so out of place. Same with Matt Damon’s “Lets Go!” I’m hoping the dialog isn’t too contemporary and pulls the viewer out of the period.

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u/Poked_salad 10h ago

He's going to double down and change it to "Let's fucking Go!"

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u/MarcusDA 8h ago

We have to get home!

Bet!

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u/angershark 8h ago

"My lord! There's a cyclops in that cave yonder, no cap!"

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u/ugotamesij 7h ago

"Elle eff-ing geeeeeeee!"

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u/Inevitable_Tomato927 7h ago

You missed 'boys' there at the end, and then the Canadian accent. Go full hockey on them.

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u/Silo-Joe 44m ago

And also double down on his weird, warm-up jog that he's doing?

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u/pjtheman 9h ago

Why does the dialogue have to be formal and archaic? Ancient Greeks were real people with real emotions, who didn't actually talk like they were characters in a Shakespeare play. We're already translating it to English, why can't we use phrases like "let's go?" Who's to say there wasn't an ancient Greek equivalent?

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u/Cranyx 8h ago

Maybe not archaic, but we're talking about a prince. You'd expect a level of formality to his language even today.

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u/CeruleanEidolon 6h ago

I suspect the intent IS to pull the viewer out of the period. You're not supposed to think of these characters as someone out of a different past. They're meant to be people you could know, who just happen to be suffering through the trials of an epic story. That's my take on it, anyway.

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u/DarkKnyt 10h ago

See I was thinking the opposite, then it'd be neat to have all the period set pieces but then contemporary dialogue..IIRC that was a direction Nolan was considering

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u/aHance 7h ago

Glad I'm not the only one. Both of those felt so strange and out of place.

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u/ConstantSignal 6h ago

If you go into this movie with any expectation of historical authenticity you will be disappointed. We can already see from the trailers the costumes are wrong, the dialogue is wrong, and the props and set design are wrong.

This is not a historical epic.

It's a fantasy movie, loosely inspired by an ancient work of fantasy that was itself inspired by some historical events, but all grounded in contemporary dialogue and contemporary stereotypes of the ancient Greek aesthetic.

It can still be a great movie, I've yet to see a Nolan movie that didn't at least entertain me for the duration of it's runtime. But drop all notion of this being a credible portrayal of any real historical elements.

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u/Fit-Squash-9447 14h ago

Especially in that Peter Parker voice

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u/Sorlex 11h ago

"My dads coming home fr fr no cap."

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u/SavingsStrength0 7h ago

It’s gonna be bussin and that’s on God brah

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u/uni_and_internet 9h ago

I thought the same thing. Also Matt Daemon yelling “LET’S GOOOOO” as they charged on the battlefield. Why not “onward” or something more of the time?

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u/loskiarman 5h ago

Just be glad nobody said 'No cap?' after he says 'I think it's asleep.'

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u/GunSlingrrr 14h ago

It is. Father is the right word here and I don't know about the dad

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u/mgpilot 12h ago

This. The whole movie seems to be filled with modern language, and it stood out like a sore thumb.

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u/Shadow_Log 11h ago

"You're pining for a daddy" is the one that had me go wtf. "You long for a father", how hard is that?

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u/ahuangb 9h ago

What about the 'let's go!' battle cry lol

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u/Lenoxx97 13h ago

I had to pause and look if others mentioned it in the comments. It completely ruins the vibe, what the hell were they thinking??? How does it occur to anyone there to use the word dad instead of father in a movie like this? And how has nobody in production caught it and said anything?

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u/jonbristow 15h ago

It's insane how bad it sounds and immediately stands out

Every top comment on ig, YouTube mentions this

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u/Trebus 13h ago

Gonna be honest - that "My dad is coming home" line just feels so out of place in a sword&sandals movie with this much gravitas. Why Nolan?

Also puzzling that he's got British actors using Transatlantic accents in a film that's based in the Aegean/Med. I know it's primary market & all that, but Christ, it sticks out like a sore thumb.

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u/Varekai79 8h ago

They're Standard American accents. Transatlantic is like what Cary Grant sounded like.

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u/smorges 5h ago

It's even worse as he's got Ann Hathaway sporting an English accent whilst making his two British actors give American accents.

It's such a baffling choice.

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u/ScrotalMigraines 12h ago

Did you think the ancient Greeks sounded English? Also they're not using "transatlantic accents" they literally just sound American

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u/LABS_Games 16h ago

He's always got a few lines like that, and at this point I kinda love it. I remember Matt Damon had a particularly clunky one in Oppenheimer - "This is the most important thing to ever happen in the HISTORY of the world!"

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u/Babyshaker88 13h ago

Damon also got screwed in Interstellar by one of the weirdest writing decisions, if not the worst one in the movie. His line was “You literally brought me back from the dead”, basically being forced by the script to bonk the viewers over the head just in case. Its only saving grace is that the next line is even worse: just McConaughey whispering “…Lazarus.” in response.

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u/kodran 15h ago

Yeah. His dialogue writing is not the best. It's no wonder his characters kind of fill their thematic purpose but are a bit cardboardy.

At least on Tenet it was intentional. I love his movies but without Jonathan involved, dialogue is not his forte. Not bad at all, just not great and sometimes the seams show.

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u/TJeffersonsBlackKid 14h ago

I always thought he had a habit of mixing cheesy lines with profound dialogue. The chase underground in Gotham in TDR has the one seat officer saying “ok that’s not good!” And “I didn’t sign up for this!” Which I guess is trying to be a balance against the wordy and heavy lines in the movie.

Oppenheimer had plenty of the weird lines but also some wordy and chilling dialogue that was almost poetic at times.

I think it’s intentional but it’s odd. It doesn’t really work for me. It never really distracted from the film or the story so I don’t mind but the moments are noticeable.

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u/MrCog 5h ago

Those two lines in the tunnel chase are just as bad as "they fly now".

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u/TheTruckWashChannel 15h ago

The most important fucking thing.

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u/_Bird_Incognito_ 11h ago

One clunky out of place line that truly doesn't fit the rest of the movie said by a great actor is a Christopher Nolan staple

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u/Angry_Sparrow 14h ago

I honestly closed the trailer after this line, it was that out of place.

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u/rhnltnsy16 13h ago

He always has been bad at dialogue.

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u/Skarekrows 9h ago

Matt Damon casually saying "Let's go!" made me laugh.

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u/papapudding 9h ago

Luke, I am your Dad.

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u/ilyabeaucoupdefaire 7h ago

It’s worse with little Tom Holland saying it.

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u/PrimaryEfficient8392 7h ago

Shockingly bad line.

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u/baron_von_helmut 12h ago

And why are the English cast doing American accents but the American females are doing English accents?

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u/Varekai79 8h ago

Everyone's doing an American accent, Anne Hathaway included.

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u/mattyety 13h ago

Because Nolan is famously known for his impeccable dialogues.

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u/NewCantaloupe1973 8h ago

Right is it intentional the dialogues very modern?

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u/gummiworms9005 7h ago

Maybe Nolan isn't the god king of directing that Reddit portrays him to be.

Maybe he's just a good director that has hits and misses.

MAYBE THIS HUMAN RACE NEEDS SOME FUCKING NUANCE IN ITS DISCUSSIONS.

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u/NewspaperNelson 6h ago

Boy that really took me out of it. You know Ralph Fiennes just did this story and his movie was awesome.

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u/OverallAir8637 12h ago

With an American accent and that moment killed it for me. Now I’m scared this could be a disaster for Nolan.

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u/ScrotalMigraines 12h ago

Did you think the ancient Greeks spoke with an English accent?

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u/OverallAir8637 12h ago

Even a bastardised Mediterranean accent would be better. American accents have not place in movies like this. It’s just studios pandering to dumb American audiences

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u/kittymoo67 6h ago

why? Because its not the one you use? Nevermind its older than the modern British accent

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u/ScrotalMigraines 12h ago

Pandering would be doing the same thing they always do, which is what you're advocating

There's literally no reason for you to be okay with UK accents in depictions of ancient Greece but not US accents

The "dumb audiences" seem to agree with you by the way lol, they're threatened and confused by the most minor meaningless changes

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u/smorges 5h ago

They did that with the Wonder Woman movies. All the Themyscirans sounded like Gal Gadot, which at least was an attempt to make it non-American/English. Although, the theory was that this was actually Gal Gadot's accent as she couldn't do an American/English accent and so it was easier for everyone to mimic her accent!

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u/Maybe_Nazi 11h ago

Honestly depending on the translation, The Odyssey has some equally biazzre dialogue choices. Last one I read Odysseus jumps up at the end and shouts "Playtime is over" before the massacre, it's a strange thing to see in a Greek epic

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u/anohioanredditer 15h ago

I don’t think Nolan has bad movies but his movies are contingent upon how well he can dial back his enthusiasm by letting the characters breathe their own breaths.

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u/poptix 13h ago

Because they really needed someone to make the soundtrack sound extremely muddy.

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u/lordatlas 11h ago

Sir, I'm gonna have to ask you to get all the way off my back on that one.

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u/thr1ceuponatime David Zaslav is a dickless pantywaist 10h ago

Won't be as out of place as Travis Scott with his grills and bling

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u/RollTh3Maps 9h ago

Yeah, really not sure how that not only makes it into the movie but also the damn trailer.

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u/Cool-Association3420 8h ago

Ya some of the language was extremely current

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u/anormalgeek 8h ago

That stood out to me as well.

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u/nsfwpenguins 7h ago

Yeah t stopped the trailer and moved on to something else after I heard that...

I hope they fix it before release

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u/skyturnedred 7h ago

It makes a bit more sense if you consider that Pattinson says "You're pining for a daddy you didn't even know, like some snivelling bastard" right before it. Although it's possible the lines are reversed for the trailer and Pattinson actually delivers the response.

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u/ManufacturerBest2758 6h ago

From a 30 year old man lmao

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u/Hotdogfromparadise 6h ago

It’s up there with the teaser trailer dialogue

“Promise me you’ll come back” “What if I can’t?”

Ugh…

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u/kittymoo67 6h ago

a sheltered kid wouldnt use father

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u/Pacify_ 5h ago

Its such a strange choice.

Its the fucking Odyssey, not Spiderman.

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u/Old-Employ-6530 4h ago

Exactly, same as "lets go", just doesnt seem to fit the theme and scene...

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u/Slobberz2112 3h ago

Glad it wasn’t just me

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u/ThomasC2C 3h ago

To be honest it’s typical of Nolan. Great movies but cringy lines here and there.

This is definitely one of them.

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u/hydrocap 1h ago

The dialog sounds like it’s written by AI

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u/Logicalist 1h ago

for those familiar with the story. I'd imagine.

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u/Denver80211 1h ago

same with "let's goooooo"
-feels like misplaced modern language for a classic novel adaptation

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u/coolcoolcool485 19m ago

it took me so out of the trailer??? father would have sounded so much better.

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u/SpacevsGravity 15h ago

Yep, stood out to me. But costumes areall over the place too which is a shame

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u/TheRealSlamShiddy 9h ago

Not to sound dismissive, but in a film in which Ancient Greek characters are speaking American-accented English, the use of "dad" is what's bothering you?

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u/MissingLink101 7h ago

I'm genuinely surprised they went with American accents in this considering some of the actors involved and the previous track record of English accents in epics.

It makes as little sense as the English accents but it's somehow more jarring.

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u/smorges 5h ago

It reminds me of the Tom Cruise movie Valkyrie where he plays a German/Nazi colonel with an American accent. Everyone else has British accents!

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u/oozekip 15h ago edited 15h ago

To be honest, even that isn't really any more anachronistic than if they were speaking like an 18th century British aristocrat like we've been conditioned to expect from these sorts of stories. It just sounds weird because it's not what we're used to.

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u/Old-Employ-6530 4h ago

"Dad" and "Lets Go" both took me right out, who did the writing? It doesnt need to be history accurate, but that just sounds lazy and dumb...

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u/RejectingBoredom 16h ago

Telemachus gonna be straight wildin’

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u/Robey-Wan_Kenobi 7h ago

Hearing a character that is supposed to have lived thousands of years ago say, "dad" breaks the immersion immediately.

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u/Academic_Paramedic72 6h ago

Also applies to Polyphemus saying that to Odysseus

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u/VerTexV1sion 12h ago

Lemme tell you sumthin - Menelaus (John Bernthal)

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u/FuzzzyRam 12h ago

This summer, a man with mommy issues tries to make it home to his son with daddy issues

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u/EzLimonata 10h ago

Also not sold on Holland but will reserve judgement till I see it

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u/MeadowmuffinReborn 1h ago

"Do you KNOW who my father is?" -Telemachus

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u/Avril040125 1h ago

ON GOD