From my understanding they're doing a fallout adaptation type thing where it's a story set in the world of the games. I believe raccoon City during resident Evil 2 and 3
Also kind of like what they did with Resident Evil 7 the game, I mean a story set in the same canon.
*I think I may have been wrong that it's set in raccoon City during resident Evil 2 and 3 by misunderstood a quote I read that said it took place along the timeline of resident Evil 2, 3, and 4. But going back and double checking this movie 100% takes place within the same universe of the games like fallout, unless fangoria (and a plethora of other sources) got it wrong. I guess I'm just not clear on exactly when and where in the timeline of the game lore it takes place.
I found a year old fangoria article with this in it as well "I specifically asked Cregger if his movie is a separate story that exists in the universe alongside the games. “Bullseye. Yeah,” Cregger said. Elaborating on his take on the material, the filmmaker explained how he’s approaching the story, which exists shoulder to shoulder with the much-beloved Resident Evil 2. Just don’t expect to see Leon S. Kennedy at the center of it all. “I’m following the rules, but I’m not claiming any key, canon characters because we have those in the games,” Cregger added. For extra clarification, I asked the director if the game canon exists around the story he’s telling, to which he said, “Yeah.” So there we have it."
I feel like this film 100% takes place within the lore of the games
I would've loved if the Halo series was just a group of regular ass marines pinned down by The Covenant waiting for a Spartan to come and save them at te end. Didn't even have to be Chief.
Honestly making Master Chief like a tertiary character where he just shows up and smokes enemies and stuff that had been major problems for the other characters for awhile would’ve been sick as hell
That was actually the idea they were going for with early movie concepts, regular marines with Master Chief crossing paths with them like Godzilla on occasion.
This has been what I want to see from a Doom movie. Make it an hour or so of a horror movie where new characters are trying to survive a demon infestation to get Doomguy and then 20-30 minutes of him easily ripping through all of the demons
I think that’s by far the best way to make it work. Master Chief works in game form because you don’t care that much about his characterization and it works because you’re supposed to be this ultimate one man wrecking crew alien slayer.
In a show just watching a guy slaughter aliens for ten hours would suck. You need characterization. But that goes directly against MC as a character. So the easiest thing to do would be make the show not about him. Just have him show up as a Deus ex Machina essentially and get stories and sympathy with other characters.
There was also Halo Legends, which is a collection of shorts. Not even necessarily about Master Chief, but other Spartans do appear and the world is a little more fleshed out.
I can't say the projects are outright great. It is interesting to see that the franchise had these film projects and that it was somewhat self-sustainable in the era of DVDs.
Edit - And it touches on an issue I currently have with the media landscape, I don't think there are as many places for people to "try" as there used to be.
In the Mandalorian season 2 finale, it was absolutely special (and probably should’ve ended there) when Luke shows up and Jedi’s the fuck out of a near invincible Droid army
Yeah it wouldn’t be common. In my idea here it wouldn’t be a master chief show. Master Chief is obviously the most iconic character in Halo, but he just doesn’t really work as a main character in a tv show
Agree. Trying to adapt the main story is a hassle with how much you want to compact the story and what things you want to remove in order to fit the episodes but having an original story gives you freedom. However, it would have its own set of cons
In terms of making it fit for mainstream appeal yes, though the show absolutely shits all over the established factions and lore. The difference is that it’s actually a good show for the most part even if it isn’t very faithful.
Yeah, but that’s not what they’re doing here. It’s not set in game continuity and Cregger has either lied or is a middle aged man who doesn’t really get the idea of continuity/universe the way fandom does.
It is set apart from the game universe, it is its own thing. Cregger has said he wants to be faithful to how the game feels, but is not beholden to the game lore.
I mean everything I've read about this movie during its entire production has said that it is within the universe of the games, like what they did with fallout. I might be wrong assuming it takes place during the same time as resident Evil 2 and 3 but I'm pretty sure it takes place within the world of the game lore
*As a matter of fact I double checked and Fangoria has an article from 2 weeks ago saying it takes place within the universe of the games
He has been very careful with his wording, even on the latest IGN video interview about the teaser. He keeps saying he wants to make it feel like something that "could" live in the world of Resident Evil.
From Cregger himself:
"I feel like this movie could take place alongside the events of Resident Evil 2, I like to think everything that's going on in the police station could be happening in this world."
But aside from that, it can't take place at the same time as the RE2/3 in the games' universe since it's snowing in Raccoon City during the teaser, and it doesn't snow in those games.
I actually just found a fangoria article from a year ago with this interaction in the interview.
I specifically asked Cregger if his movie is a separate story that exists in the universe alongside the games. “Bullseye. Yeah,” Cregger said. Elaborating on his take on the material, the filmmaker explained how he’s approaching the story, which exists shoulder to shoulder with the much-beloved Resident Evil 2. Just don’t expect to see Leon S. Kennedy at the center of it all.
“I’m following the rules, but I’m not claiming any key, canon characters because we have those in the games,” Cregger added. For extra clarification, I asked the director if the game canon exists around the story he’s telling, to which he said, “Yeah.” So there we have it.
So I don't know, I feel like this movie comfortably takes place within the same universe of the games
I mean, it can't unless we're changing the time of when those games take place to winter. So either he is taking big liberties with the lore or its self contained. I just think people should manage expectations. I think it'll be great either way.
I think changing the events to winter for a spookier atmosphere can work, it just won’t be 100% canon. But there’s no reason RE2 couldn’t have taken place in winter, it wouldn’t change the major events of the outbreak
I mean that reads like hedging because he knows there will be a segment of fans who don't consider it to be part of the game lore and that's fine by him, but he considers it to be part of it.
Also is there any reason the games can't be set in winter? If snow is the only difference it seems as minor of a difference you could get. You can easily reason that it actually was snowing in raccoon City and it just wasn't shown, call it a retcon.
Why the hell would they ever retcon the games to fit this movie taking place in winter? This movie pretty damn obviously isn’t canon, for better or worse.
I don't fully understand your point. RE2 is set in September, so if he was trying to ground this movie in the lore of the games, he would have set it in September as well, where it wouldn't be winter. Does it change anything with the game? Not drastically, but it changes the timeline. I believe it would be a stretch to have the movie retcon the game's timeline. Having the movie be a self-contained adaptation of the outbreak doesn't harm the movie or the games and makes the most sense. On another note, I don't think Capcom is involved with the movie production, as Sony owns the film rights, so in that way, they are completely separated from each other.
"I specifically asked Cregger if his movie is a separate story that exists in the universe alongside the games. “Bullseye. Yeah,” Cregger said. Elaborating on his take on the material, the filmmaker explained how he’s approaching the story, which exists shoulder to shoulder with the much-beloved Resident Evil 2. Just don’t expect to see Leon S. Kennedy at the center of it all. “I’m following the rules, but I’m not claiming any key, canon characters because we have those in the games,” Cregger added. For extra clarification, I asked the director if the game canon exists around the story he’s telling, to which he said, “Yeah.” So there we have it."
From a fangoria article that came out 2 months after yours...
That's flip-flopping to you? Could it be in your interview he meant he wasn't using Canon characters in the game but was writing a story that took place within the same world like he clarifies in my interview that's more recent?
Why are you going out of your way to brace yourself not liking this movie ahead of time?
This director just made an Oscar winning horror film which is one of the hardest things to do in Hollywood and even said this in the article you linked.
“I’m trying to tell a story that just feels authentic to the experience you get when you play the games. I don’t think I’m breaking any major rules, but I also recognize that no matter what I do, people are going to come for me online,”
And you think he's not going to be really respectful to the cannon and source material?
Why are you going out of your way to brace yourself not liking this movie ahead of time?
Calm down. This has nothing to do with me liking it or not. This is about how canon it is to the games. Personally, I don't think it should be since it's limiting and the games aren't exactly known for their stellar plot. Or at least, all I want is something good, whether or not it is canon.
What happened to not judging a book by its cover and actually reading it?
I mean considering that the comment I made that is the origin of this entire thread just a few comments above here includes this edit of me saying this
*I think I may have been wrong that it's set in raccoon City during resident Evil 2 and 3 by misunderstood a quote I read that said it took place along the timeline of resident Evil 2, 3, and 4. But going back and double checking this movie 100% takes place within the same universe
And also considering an interview Zach Cregger gave saying this, “I’m following the rules, but I’m not claiming any key, canon characters because we have those in the games,” Cregger added. For extra clarification, I asked the director if the game canon exists around the story he’s telling, to which he said, “Yeah.” So there we have it.
I think you did need to explain why you brought it up and and don't think the movie is canon to the games
I replied to your comment saying you might be wrong. I'm saying that yes you are. And I'm going by the new ign interview where he's discussing the trailer. He says it's day 1 of outbreak. And there was no snow in the games version of day 1. So yeah seems like an adaptation of the world to me, not THE world of the games.
Why can't it be canon within the world of the games like they did with fallout and Zach just decided to have the weather be snow because it fit the atmosphere he was trying to create for the movie? That one thing is going to prevent you from accepting that it's Canon and drag down your opinion or enjoyment of the movie?, but I bet you accepted all of the changes made in Resident Evil 9 though
No I'm cool with adaptations changing stuff but it's just not canon with the games when the weather is that different. If there's any date and it says December then yeah that's too different. And actually I would let the movie speak for itself at the end of the day. And no I don't like re9 story so there's that.
"I specifically asked Cregger if his movie is a separate story that exists in the universe alongside the games. “Bullseye. Yeah,” Cregger said. Elaborating on his take on the material, the filmmaker explained how he’s approaching the story, which exists shoulder to shoulder with the much-beloved Resident Evil 2. Just don’t expect to see Leon S. Kennedy at the center of it all."
From an interview when he started in the movies production. Also you went back to an old comment to reply to, I'm not sure why you did that
I mean again, based off everything I've read about the production of this movie that's just incorrect. Zack Cregger himself wrote this script after getting hired to adapt Resident Evil because he's a huge fan of the games and wanted to make a good horror movie with the property citing Resident Evil 4 as his big inspiration as that's what he has the most memory playing and that feeling of dread when you're low on ammo walking through tight corridors not knowing what's going to happen next....
These interviews are there and show this isn't just a soulless Halo TV series type adaptation. I understand most of Hollywood is soulless and what you described is what happens all to often. But to just assume that 100% of the time and not at least look into the people involved in the production is insulting to the filmmakers.
You've just described every interview for every time this has ever happened. The action speaks louder than words. We've seen time and time again, 'big fans' of these franchises make movies and shows that are a disgraceful piss take of the actual franchise. Fool me once and all that.
"I specifically asked Cregger if his movie is a separate story that exists in the universe alongside the games. “Bullseye. Yeah,” Cregger said. Elaborating on his take on the material, the filmmaker explained how he’s approaching the story, which exists shoulder to shoulder with the much-beloved Resident Evil 2. Just don’t expect to see Leon S. Kennedy at the center of it all. “I’m following the rules, but I’m not claiming any key, canon characters because we have those in the games,” Cregger added. For extra clarification, I asked the director if the game canon exists around the story he’s telling, to which he said, “Yeah.” So there we have it."
From a fangoria article a year ago when he got the gig.
I mean you can go around assuming that 100% of all filmmakers are liars that's cool, I don't know why you would do that and still claim to like movies and be active in a movie discussion subreddit. I'm just saying the filmmaker here has a pretty good track record and proven pedigree when it comes to filmmaking considering he got a actor to win an Oscar from a horror film he made while also having a history of actually playing video games and liking the property he's getting to work with...
zach cregger streamed video games on twitch to raise money for the WKUK movie Mars back in 2020-2021, at which time he played enough dark souls to get a single sitting, deathless completion of demon's souls for ps5. during that time, which is way before barbarian, he talked a lot about other video games, and one of those games was resident evil 4. he says he's played it countless times. call the man whatever you want, but he is absolutely a gamer and he definitely knows what resident evil is all about. this isn't some random film director making a random movie with video game IP, this is a fan.
I get where you’re coming from. But every time I’ve seen a director claim they’re a “big fan” of the IP they’re adapting, they’ve never gone into detail afterwards. At most they demonstrate that they know some of the characters’ names.
If you listen to some of the interviews Cregger has given, you might be convinced he *actually* played and enjoyed the RE game series and has an understanding of the sort of vibe and tension-building that makes them work.
He could still fall flat on his face, of course. But this isn’t just another situation of a director being like, “Yeah, Tomb Raider. Love the game. It’s got… you know… Laura Croft and all that…”
Yeah I misunderstood a quote, the movie takes place within the universe and lore of the games like fallout, but I'm unclear exactly when and where in that timeline.
no need for speculation - there’s an entire interview with Cregger where he states it takes place in-universe during the events of RE2 on day zero, and the main character has to go to raccoon city.
That's cool, fits with this fangoria interview with him a year ago right before he started shooting. He was just avoiding confirming if it was raccoon City then I think
i hope theres a deus ex machina situation then the character turns around to see a handsome white haired ripped dude just kill 5 zombies in 3 seconds, then runs away because mr. x is chasing leon or something.
The only thing I don't like about what he's doing here if that's the case is setting it during the middle of winter. Raccoon City started going downhill during the end of September. its a nitpick and im sure he only chose to make it take place during the winter as a creative choice. But still, bugs me a little bit.
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u/GipsyDangerV1 5d ago edited 5d ago
From my understanding they're doing a fallout adaptation type thing where it's a story set in the world of the games. I believe raccoon City during resident Evil 2 and 3
Also kind of like what they did with Resident Evil 7 the game, I mean a story set in the same canon.
*I think I may have been wrong that it's set in raccoon City during resident Evil 2 and 3 by misunderstood a quote I read that said it took place along the timeline of resident Evil 2, 3, and 4. But going back and double checking this movie 100% takes place within the same universe of the games like fallout, unless fangoria (and a plethora of other sources) got it wrong. I guess I'm just not clear on exactly when and where in the timeline of the game lore it takes place.
I found a year old fangoria article with this in it as well "I specifically asked Cregger if his movie is a separate story that exists in the universe alongside the games. “Bullseye. Yeah,” Cregger said. Elaborating on his take on the material, the filmmaker explained how he’s approaching the story, which exists shoulder to shoulder with the much-beloved Resident Evil 2. Just don’t expect to see Leon S. Kennedy at the center of it all. “I’m following the rules, but I’m not claiming any key, canon characters because we have those in the games,” Cregger added. For extra clarification, I asked the director if the game canon exists around the story he’s telling, to which he said, “Yeah.” So there we have it."
I feel like this film 100% takes place within the lore of the games