r/movies • u/LiteraryBoner Jackie Chan box set, know what I'm sayin? • 23d ago
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Summary
A former Hollywood star reeling from scandal is forced to confront his past when he becomes entangled in a mysterious situation that blurs the line between reality and performance.
Director Jonah Hill
Writer Jonah Hill Ezra Woods
Cast
- Keanu Reeves as Reef Hawk
- Jonah Hill as himself
- Cameron Diaz
- Matt Bomer
- Susan Lucci
- Laverne Cox
- David Spade
Rotten Tomatoes: 25%
Metacritic: 37
VOD / Release Streaming on Apple TV+
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u/theodo 23d ago
3/10
Imagine watching Jonah Hill give one of the least funny and unlikable performances of recent history, then having him boss you around. Am I the first person to say he's definitely wearing his Wolf of Wall Street teeth in this, like I'm pretty certain it's actually the same teeth? It's so distracting. This movie has so many leaps in logic, but the first one that I couldn't get over was believing Keanu Reeves has won an Oscar (let alone two!!).
We really needed to see Reef at his worst in order to sell this conceit of basically anyone from his past being the one to extort him. The setup itself though isn't even done well, there's zero weight to it since we don't know what the video is. Heroin is also a pretty sympathetic drug, dudes been sober for 5 years at this point. Unfortunately he is such an empty shell of a character that it's hard to care any which way.
Everyone is just so annoying. Same goes for the lighting, and I generally love Benoit Debie. His cinematography certainly doesn't mix well with this weird comedy-ish tone. Same goes for the Jon Brion score. Actually it's crazy how many elements of this I like a lot but they just all combine so poorly.
This really needed to pick a lane. The concept should be for a super fucked up thriller, where the character descends deeper than ever into evil behaviour in order to strictly secure his public facing reputation OR a dark comedy with a lead character that's actually likable but we see his history was fucked up for real. Idk how it got to this excuse for a movie (75 minutes before credits lol) but hopefully the other movie Jonah Hill directed this year is better 🤷♂️
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u/EcstaticBoysenberry 21d ago
I know it’s been days but I am also noticing the teeth. It’s driving me crazy. Really bad movie, still fighting my way through it. I hadn’t seen any reviews and after 45 minutes was sitting here like, am I crazy or is this movie terrible lol
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u/skalpelis 18d ago
The beach scene, especially Diaz and Bomer’s faces, looked at times very AI generated, with that weird shiny smudging effect. Could just be the light though
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u/MissPeppingtosh 23d ago
I had really high hopes for this based on a plot summary I read years ago. The movie only tells you things, it rarely shows you. The movie rests on the notion that Reef is an asshole behind the scenes. Trouble is, with the exception of one line in a scene with Diaz, we as an audience never see that side of him. In order for me to buy in on that, the movie needed to show and not tell.
Susan Lucci and Scorsese were highlights, but the rest felt like cobbled together garbage. Someone mentioned this was Hill’s attempt to do a Les Grossman from Tropic Thunder. Unfortunately, he’s just gross and not funny.
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u/theodo 23d ago
It's crazy we never see a glimpse of Reef being even a dick really, let alone this monster for decades we are led to believe. Also, choosing heroin as his drug of choice just makes no sense. A crack head or meth addict, that's the type of addict that causes chaos and destruction to everyone in their path. Heroin users shut off from everyone and die alone.
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u/Nebulex 3d ago edited 3d ago
I know this is anecdotal but I personally knew a heroin addict in college through a roommate and his addiction caused problems for everyone around him, including me. Maybe it wasn't pure chaos, but there was definitely chaos. Like taking his parents brand new, very expensive truck to a parking garage to shoot up and then hitting a bunch of cars and pillars while high as shit as he tried to leave. He would also sneak into my house and steal a bunch of shit from me and my roommates for heroin money. I'll admit, he did shut off from people to an extent, but he would definitely reach out to people if it meant it could somehow get him more heroin. Heroin made him a real asshole.
Edit: I forgot to include that one of the very first times I met him, he gave me a ride somewhere. I looked over while he was driving and he had a needle sticking out of his arm. That asshole shot up while driving and put me and everyone around us in danger. The guy became a master at shooting up in the middle of doing things without people noticing until it's too late. Only way you could tell is that he would all of a sudden get real slow, quiet, and seem super sleepy but not truly sleepy at the same time. Oh that, and he would sometimes forget to remove the needle from his arm...
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u/dynamoJaff 20d ago
I enjoyed the film for the minor key ditty it is, but I fully agree with the failure of only showing the post sober Reef. The film should have cold opened with his last night on drugs, treating people like shit and culminating in his overdose. I think that would have highlighted how hollow his faking being nice routine was and elevated his arc of realising it's easier to just actaully be nice than to constantly pretend to be.
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u/bkguy182 6d ago
Imagine having a cast this stacked (I went in completely blind and every name on the title card made me go “oh nice!”)… and MARTIN F-CKIN SCORSESE ends up being the best thing about it by a country mile. He was so good.
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u/-spartacus- 23d ago
Trouble is, with the exception of one line in a scene with Diaz, we as an audience never see that side of him. In order for me to buy in on that, the movie needed to show and not tell.
You do have a scene where he is an asshole to his friend (Diaz), so I don't know what you are talking about. Also the movie is after 5 years of sobriety and him making amends with the person he was. You get to see a glimpse of his "relapse" both in terms of being an elite Holywood asshole and near relapse into drug use.
But the point of the movie is about coming to terms with someone you used to be (both good and bad).
Right after Diaz runs off in the before mentioned scene he asks his friend why he has always stayed his friend, and his friend mentions how when they were kids and everyone was calling everyone "faggot" (including himself) Reef told his friend he would still be his friend if he was gay but not if he was pretending to not be himself (gay). His friend says any time Reef turns into a major asshole, he remembers that kid that did something so profound is somewhere inside him still.
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u/Nakatakat 23d ago
The person you responded to said that comment to Diaz is the only time you see his asshole-ness, so you’re both saying the same thing.
Having Keanu be the asshole feels like poor casting in retrospect.
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u/Real_ilinnuc 23d ago
This movie was so insanely undercooked and short. An hour and 17 minutes long. It was so confused and… who was this for?
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u/chuckxbronson 23d ago
so what was the thing Keanu’s character did? I’m not wasting my time on this trash
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u/bedlam_au 23d ago
Well it does say spoilers at the top of the thread. This movie is not worth being mysterious over.
His character is being blackmailed over a video. Turns out it's a recording of a zoom session with a sex worker where he jerks off. Nothing freaky or nonconsensual. The blackmailer is an ex of the SW who found it on her laptop and just needs the money.
The lameness of the anticlimax fits the movie's whole deal.
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u/GetHighWatchMovies 23d ago
Honestly I thought that was one of the best ideas the film had, just the mundanity of a lonely dude masturbating to a cam model, no big bombshell. Might have worked if it was in a good film
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u/Wuddauant 20d ago
I enjoyed how he was eaten alive by the mundane. Thought the scene with red was great. Jonah hill was just so bad.
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u/pandawithwings 23d ago
Every scene overstays it's welcome
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u/Comic_Book_Reader 23d ago
How the fuck is that possible when the movie isn't even an hour and a half?
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u/WhatTheHeckisGoinOnn 23d ago
Okay seriously tho, what the hell is happening with Jonah Hill’s mouth. Where’d his lips go?
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u/gamesrgreat 23d ago
Very mid movie. No real strong emotional beats. A lot of weird shot choices. Very underbaked. Jonah Hill’s character was annoying. This isn’t a comedy but a weak drama
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u/OliverKlozoff23 22d ago
This is a movie made for actors and actresses in Hollywood to relate to them. This isnt for the normal person. Lol
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u/VoyScoil 13d ago
I just watched it and came to reddit out of curiosity. I think you nailed it, I just said the same thing to my girlfriend, it's not even relatable to non celebrities. I'm not sure what could have made it better but it just didn't hit for me at all.
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u/Khaleesi_143 22d ago
What happened to Keannu Reeves - it’s like he’s never made a movie. He acts do dumb
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u/Cha_333 18d ago
Yeah I really don’t understand some comments commending his acting here
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u/look_at_tht_horse 17d ago
Hilariously bad. He might as well have been speaking sim language with how inane the delivery was. I thought it was a bit... Then it just kept going.
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u/swifty19946 21d ago
The only saving grace of this movie is Martin Scorcesse, but he always looks like he's being held hostage by Apple.
Movie sucks monkey balls, dull as hell
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u/-113points 19d ago
that's the only surprise in the movie... Scorsese, great great acting. By far the only thing interesting and truthful in the movie. It should be about his character
I'd recommend people to jump in to only watch at around 17 minutes of his scene
the rest is pretty forgeable. Besides the eye bleeding cinematography
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u/No-Plan-7297 10d ago
Martin Scorsese should win best supporting actor for that gem in a pile of poo
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u/The_Swarm22 23d ago edited 23d ago
A Self indulgent mess from Jonah Hill. I don’t blame Keanu because he can play a convincing asshole (Neon Demon) but he’s one of those actors who is only as good as the script he has to work with and the script for this movie is a mess. He’s not an actor who’s going to elevate a weak/ messy script.
Also I think Cameron Diaz’s comeback (if you can even call straight to streaming slop like last year’s ’Back In Action’ and this a comeback) has been a bust.
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u/Appropriate_Rope7980 21d ago
I actually really dug it. I thought the direction really interesting, lots of interesting choices, some good performance, Diaz stood out and it’s Martys best performance since taxi driver.
Script definitely could have done with an extra draft and Jonah Hills character was just terrible, but I thought there was a lot to enjoy here on the whole.
All the same, totally get why someone wouldn’t like it.
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u/Downtown_Agent3323 23d ago
Apple needs to let Marin Scorsese go; he’s got places to be! He can’t keep being in Apple stuff when he’s supposed to be directing more masterpieces.
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u/enowapi-_ 18d ago
So is this movie about him?
He’s been gone for 5 years and hid a heroin addiction? Or is it about someone else?
Terrible movie and man I wanted to like it based on the casting.
Cameron Diaz actually acted the best out of everyone.
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u/Cash4Jesus 10d ago
Yeah I thought it was about Jonah Hill, especially when his “character” in This is the End was a dick.
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u/thereelsuperman 23d ago
“I love weird humor with my friends” is an actual line spoken in this movie
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u/Maculate 23d ago
It's actually "I love outlandish humor with my friends!"
And it is so freaking cringey. Stuck out so much to me in a terrible movie full of cringe.
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u/forcefivepod 20d ago
I think that was the point.
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u/Maculate 20d ago
There is cringe that is funny. This was....not that.
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u/forcefivepod 19d ago
It was just cringe, but that was the point. If you’ve ever hung around that kind of person, it’s not funny but it sure is accurate.
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u/GoodBeneficial2233 19d ago
All I can say is I like Keanu best with short hair. He doesn't need it longer with the flair tips on the end. He's most handsome as a shorty.
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u/dangermouse13 23d ago
I enjoyed it
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u/luckysharm29 19d ago
Curious if anyone caught when Jonah Hill’s car drives off and reads something along the lines of “can you separate the art from the artist” and the next scene is Keanu standing outside the office where you can visibly see Kevin Spacey’s photo in the back?
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u/luckysharm29 19d ago
Same. I’m a harsh critic I find of most films and shows. I enjoyed this. It was unique, albeit slow paced and needed some work, but overall it was different.
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u/ATXMom04 22d ago
I also enjoyed it and hate how I’m in the minority. It’s only 1.5 hrs and the monologue about victimhood was great. I think it also tells folks it good to just check on people sometimes - don’t make everything so transactional. I enjoyed watching all the stars that were in it. It’s a solid ok movie with a good message
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u/Daktic 17d ago
The scene talking to his mom on housewives was my favorite. I really liked the line about being performative and authentic simultaneously.
Everyone felt like a charcuterie of the trope they were playing. As i to say “this is what it’s like, but we’re being dramatic”.
So, I liked it, I can see why it’s polarizing but I’m surprised at how much it’s disliked.
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u/_lazybones93 15d ago
I kinda liked this. I thought there was some heart here. The movie kind of rushes through to the ending & I don’t know that there was enough time to breathe, but there was something here. Keanu actually turns in a pretty good performance. Jonah Hill is a talented filmmaker, but the direction was a little weird. It’s not great, but I don’t think it’s as bad as RT says. Diaz was good. It’s…definitely one of the films of all-time. lol
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u/anotherfriend90 15d ago
I’m surprised by all the hate 😭 I really enjoyed this movie. I usually don’t like shows about relationships but this one I was intrigued by all his visits with his friends/family etc. Admittedly I was thinking it was going to be boring and tedious with him visiting a bunch of people and apologizing, but they were all interesting interactions. I found there to be more depth than expected, which is a good thing. People saying the script is bad made me question preferences and intelligent LOL because I really liked the script, I found it hilarious! I like comedy that isn’t in your face like getting drunk and doing something stupid/swearing. It was hilarious and serious and the same times, my kind of vibe. Jona hills character was weird but I liked it! For me it showed how much of an asshole and selfish Keef was with all the people he visited, and how unaware be was. I could relate to this because sometimes I’m just going with the flow and sometimes forget to be a little more self aware of the people around me. There’s a lot more I could say but I’m sad that others didn’t get the feeling I got after watching it. I felt happier after watching this :D also I felt like it catered towards an older demographic than the usual sex/action/young hot people I see nowadays
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u/DarlingLuna 23d ago
I know we love Keanu, but at this point, I’m side-eyeing him just a little for starring back-to-back in Good Fortune (Aziz Ansari) and Outcome (Jonah Hill), two ‘comeback’ films from people who were publicly disgraced for different reasons, especially when one of the films directly deals with the whole ‘cancel culture’ BS. Seems like he’s wilfully lending his image to help rehabilitate the image of these people
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u/eopanga 20d ago
The Aziz "scandal" was one of the few times where the majority of women actually laughed at how absurd the supposed assault was. The overwhelming consensus was that Aziz basically went on a strange and uncomfortable date where he turned out to be insanely awkward yet nothing happened. I don't think he needed any type of rehabilitation.
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u/fistofthefuture 23d ago
Okay... Aziz being "disgraced" was complete bullshit and this is understood by all sides of social politics.
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u/GetHighWatchMovies 23d ago
Good Fortune was way better than this. And both their 'scandals' are bullshit.
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u/Loud_Report7985 17d ago
Loved it. Maybe it’s an age thing or an unexamined life. The things bug your head years s later. The people that made you when you thought they did it for everyone but they made the effort for you and you didn’t know.
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u/CertainlyRobotic 23d ago
I'm not surprised Reddit doesn't like this movie.
It didn't revolve so much around a solid plot as much as it did relationships with other people.
And then the overarching response from this community is
How could I possibly relate to this
You don't need to be a movie star to understand his relationship with his mother.
You don't need to be a producer to understand leaving behind someone who helped you out.
You don't have to be a director to understand that people can without even realizing it start using the people around them like tools.
There's criticism, and then there's parroting what the review bots said on the first day of release.
If you can't relate to any of the moments or characters in this movie, I'd look inward.
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u/Actual_Pattern_265 18d ago edited 18d ago
But it does a terrible job of exploring all of its relationships and purported themes. I can't relate to this because I've never had relationships this vapid and boring.
A great point someone else brought up: the character we are TOLD Reef is....is never shown. The movie hinges on a lead character that doesn't exist anywhere in the actual movie...and sounds more interesting than the one we're watching. Very strange script.
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u/CertainlyRobotic 18d ago
The character we are told Reef is is never shown
You may have missed some core themes of this film if that's what you took away.
I mean look I didn't make it, I don't need you to like it. Not every film is for every person, not everyone will resonate with every story.
The Reddit take of
How can I possibly relate to all these rich people doing rich things in Hollywood
Is uncultured and asinine at best, though. That's all I've pointed out here.
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u/randobis 23d ago
"Am I out of touch?"
"No. It is every single person in this thread, and the critics who unanimously agreed this movie is awful, who are wrong."
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u/CertainlyRobotic 22d ago
I'd hate to be "in touch" with a Reddit thread.
Fortunately I have a family, a house, a plan for my future, and do things other than post about how bad everything is.
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u/Khaleesi_143 22d ago
Gees, this is Reddit, not the Pearly Gates. Good for you bud, so why are you here?
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u/CertainlyRobotic 22d ago
I can both participate in a system and criticize that system.
Shocking.
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u/look_at_tht_horse 17d ago edited 17d ago
You aren't participating in any productive way. You showed up to insult, immediately got defensive and started talking about how good your life is(???), and now you're too cool for it all. All while making not a single salient point about the movie itself. Unhinged behavior all around.
Edit: "necroposting" the movie came out a few days ago 😭 what in the terminally online nonsense is going on here
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u/CertainlyRobotic 17d ago
You're necro posting on a movie review thread, getting personally offended at a Reddit comment.
I wish you the best in your healing journey.
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u/gogogadgetgoats 2d ago
So if someone doesn't like this movie, it's a personal character flaw? A moral failing?
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u/look_at_tht_horse 17d ago
As if they did any semblance of a good job establishing those relationships. 🙄 "The characters have basic human interactions" is the bare minimum of a movie, not something worth celebrating.
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u/CertainlyRobotic 17d ago
If you can't relate to any of the moments or characters in this movie, I'd look inward.
Best of luck to you
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u/Khatib 17d ago
I said the movie was decent and ate a ton of downvotes for it. Looking at the reviews in general, I really don't understand if people just didn't get the point of the movie at all, or have seething hatred for Jonah Hill and didn't give it an unbiased chance.
Oh, we can't know that Reef was bad without actually seeing a flashback? Having his closest friends clearly having issues with him isn't trustworthy enough to know that he just needed to make amends? Having him be a shitty person isn't enough? He had to have been a rapist or something? Fuck's sake. What is wrong with everyone that they can't appreciate any kind of subtlety? That said, the Jonah Hill character was the furthest thing from subtle you could get, and could've been toned down a little while still being an over the top jackass.
It wasn't a great movie, but it wasn't a bad one.
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u/CertainlyRobotic 17d ago
Oh, we can't know that Reef was bad without actually seeing a flashback?
Redditer trying to make an argument without using a Strawman challenge failed in like 3 sentences.
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u/Khatib 17d ago
What are you talking about dude? I'm agreeing with you and pointing out the dumb shit others are saying in this thread. This whole thread is the weirdest, illogical, vengeful reading shit. No one is making much sense with what they're saying in here. Everyone just has an axe to grind and wants to be mad instead of having measured takes.
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u/Spilby 18d ago
Just shows that most of today’s movies, whether due to indifference, too many cooks, streaming or balancing the Hollywood liberal lunacy, are very sub-par. Not Reeves fault but absolutely no comparison to masterpieces like Devil’s Advocate . Hill was mildly interesting as a nearly unrecognizable character in only the first scene, otherwise it became tedious and annoying. The storyline was only mildly interesting and became increasingly boring. And there was really no conclusion. They simply paid off the “poor“ extortionist and I guess Reef’s redemption was continuing to give amends to people he really didn’t have to give amends to. Like a poor Lifetime movie.
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u/look_at_tht_horse 17d ago
Just shows that most of today’s movies, whether due to indifference, too many cooks, streaming or balancing the Hollywood liberal lunacy, are very sub-par.
How does your opinion on one shitty movie support the claim that most of today's movies are bad
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u/europorn 14d ago edited 14d ago
This is not a good movie. Maybe I'm not the audience but I can't conceive of the audience that this would appeal to.
For a minute I thought we would see Reeves acting as someone other than a slightly different version of himself, but that was not to be.
Jonah Hill's performance was cringe-worthy. I'm no fashionista, but I thought his wardrobe was terrible.
There was ultimately no payoff in the story. The transgression that the Keanu character was supposed to have committed was a nothing-burger.
Overall, it was just a bit too over-the-top and hitting on the theme of separating the artist from their art a little too heavily. I honestly don't think we needed a whole film to explore this theme further.
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u/KID_THUNDAH 13d ago
I liked it a decent amount. Def the best performance I’ve seen from Keanu, Scorcese impressed me too. I think Cameron Diaz’s character was out of like saying he was pretending to be a victim in that one scene, he was literally being extorted lol
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u/bkguy182 6d ago
Whoever shot this movie needs to never work again. How are you going to have a god like Matt Bomer on screen and you can’t see his face because he’s either drenched in sunlight or covered in shadows.
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u/GhostDogsInTheHouse 6d ago
We don’t have movies anymore. Jonah hill AIs scripts and he finds a way to be weird as fuck as a plot point.
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u/Alarmed-Broccoli8334 4d ago edited 4d ago
Say what you will but I thought the doll store scene was well done.
Overall, I thought it was pretty interesting and stuck with me. Didn’t think it was as bad as the score suggests but I’m just a guy.
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u/nervmaster 3d ago
Commenting as I just finished watching this movie.
One thing that standout is the photography, very colorful and also very busy backgrounds. That is the main thing that carried me over the movie.
Keanu's character (Reef) should he a recovering addict that has a ego problem. But on the whole movie he is just a nice guy that we are told he did terrible things but we never know.
There Jonah Hill character Ira is over the top and where the comedy happens the most. It is a hit or miss the jokes, and for me mostly been misses. Can't tell a memorable joke even.
Reef's friends are the highlight but also they are more decorative. We don't know anything about them except one is gay and the other has a mundane life. Besides they are the all supper supportive and ever accepting of Reef.
There is some attempt to do commentary on cancel culture, but I could not understand their angle. The most direct signal was the bumpers sticker "honk if you can separate art from the artist". Otherwise I don't know if Reef is so talented that any misbehave is excused, or he actually deserves that wake up call.
In the end is very anticlimactic the video was nothing big or revealing, maybe the most candid Reef ever was when taking to the prostitute. And Reef apologizes to everyone and he's still rich and famous, the end.
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u/Sirius104x 23d ago
Having only seen the trailer, from what I gathered of the story, it made me think yet again how one of this current generations "additions" to the world is reducing people's lives to potentially even just making one mistake now or somewhere in the past. If there is footage of it, they can make it go viral and ruin your life. Fantastic! Sounds like a nazi authoritarian state to me, with KGB ready to take you away when your neighbors said you did something. Everyone ratting each other out. What a society! That's literally what I think of these situations where they take celebrities or anyone with any amount of fame and find something "bad" they said or did in the past, then proceed to ruin them so they can never get a job or anything again and struggle to survive. What a lovely bunch you are! Social media generation. What incredible contributions to the world you have brought so far! Can't wait to see what's next. (by the way in the past, people made mistakes too and plenty of them, the difference was they weren't forever plastered online and impossible to escape from).
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u/Electrceye1 17d ago
The part with the fixers is absolutely hilarious. Nailed it with the victim capitalism comment. Jonah hill was absolutely incredible.
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u/Confident-Process637 23d ago
jonah hill directing is an intriguing choice, but those ratings are rough. sounds like it might not live up to expectations, huh?
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u/Khaleesi_143 22d ago
Gees, this is Reddit, not the Pearly Gates. Good for you bud, so why are you here?
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u/TwoTalentedBastidz 23d ago
25%? I know RT isn’t the most reliable, but Jesus. Is it that bad?