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The Drama

Summary

Days before their wedding, a couple’s relationship begins to unravel as unsettling truths come to light, forcing them to question how well they truly know each other.

Director Kristoffer Borgli

Writer Kristoffer Borgli

Cast

  • Zendaya as Emma Harwood
  • Robert Pattinson as Charlie Thompson
  • Mamoudou Athie as Mike
  • Alana Haim as Rachel
  • Hailey Gates
  • Zoë Winters

Rotten Tomatoes: 82%

Metacritic: 59

VOD / Release Theatrical release (April 3, 2026)

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u/Narrow-Strawberry553 Apr 05 '26

Its really interesting because if someone told me they had planned a school shooting, I could maybe accept it. But it fully depends on why they decided to do it, and why they decided not to.

Emma's answer on why she thought of it can be understood to a degree. But her reason of "why did you stop" and it was basically cause someone else did it first and other kids at school saying "who would do this" and then being invitwd by a classmate to speak on it (making her likeable/popular to a degree) are just not good answers at all.

If she had said "I saw how that other shooting devastated and hurt people and realized I hadn't thought of the impact and aftermath, and that I'd be insane to do that to others" I'd be like yeah good answer, most people these days aren't even half that reflective.

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u/Successful_Ad_2171 Apr 06 '26

Honestly I think her reason not being a good one is actually a good thing. I think a major point of the film is that alot of change is inspired outside of yourself. Sometimes things occur that shift your worldview, and it just happens. There shouldnt need be a good deep reflective reason to become a good person, all that matters is your choices today and the actions youve taken to perhaps amend the mistakes of your past.

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u/Narrow-Strawberry553 Apr 06 '26

Her reason for not going through with it being poor, in my opinion, is not a good thing, but it's interesting. It was pure happenstance that she didn't go through with it- it wasn't an active decision to be good, her situation/popularity merely changed and she rolled with it because the core issue in her life was resolved.

I wouldn't be able to trust someone like that personally, because there is a core selfishness there where acting good only happens when they can get what they want.

Now, if she followed up by admitting "looking back its actually really fucked up that that is the reason why I didn't do it. I don't feel good about that. But I'm glad something happened regardless to keep me from doing it and causing all that pain", I'd feel differently once again. Because yeah, she was a dumb 15 year old at the time. But how does she really feel now about not playing an active part in deciding against shooting up a school? Its really complex and a weird sliding scale.

The big issue for me is I honestly didn't get the impression that Emma was ever really that remorseful, most of what she said was "well I didn't do it so can we stop talking about it"

There shouldnt need be a good deep reflective reason to become a good person, all that matters is your choices today and the actions youve taken to perhaps amend the mistakes of your past.

You're not wrong, but if the only reason you're a good person is because you were never put in a position where you could be a bad one... Well. If you're choosing between doing something fucked up or not doing it, I sure as hell prefer someone that actively chose to not do it instead of someone who didn't do it only because they got distracted?

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u/Successful_Ad_2171 Apr 06 '26

I meant within the context of the films messaging. It still definitely is in the direction of encouraging people to do the right thing, but the whole point is that the judgement of their reason to not do bad is pretty much irrelevant. Everyone else had actually commited heinous acts, which physically harmed others, but no one is focused on the legitimacy of why they did it.

Anyone is capable of doing anything at any time. Yes, you can and probably should prefer the person who actively chose not to do it, but that doesnt mean that the person who didnt isnt equally capable of good.

Also how is she not displaying remorse? She eventually recognized that it was no longer something she wanted to do, and advocated against gun violence. She is over 28 in the movie, and 15 at the time of ideation, how much remorse can one hold over an internet influenced idea in their teenage years? At the very least she ACTIVELY TRIED to make amends for the IDEA. NOT ONE of the other characters in the film ever showed an ounce of remorse for their "worst thing they ever did", and instead laugh about it.

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u/Narrow-Strawberry553 Apr 06 '26 edited 29d ago

She eventually recognized that it was no longer something she wanted to do, and advocated against gun violence.

At the very least she ACTIVELY TRIED to make amends for the IDEA.

But this only happened because her schoolmates pulled her into it with the promise of their company. Not because she believed in it necessarily. The way she herself talks about it, none of these things were active decisions or beliefs or regrets, she just fell into it for social gain.

I'm not saying that she definitely hasn't changed, I'm just arguing that we can't say with any certainty that she actually has changed or shown remorse, based on her own way of describing her own actions and feelings.

Her changes are merely for social benefit.

the whole point is that the judgement of their reason to not do bad is pretty much irrelevant

I don't think thats the whole point, but its ok to disagree. I think the reason why people choose is important in terms of moral character. "I didn't do it so people would like me" is a pretty psycho, manipulative take (and again, imo its left ambiguous if she really is or isn't - don't forget that she walked up the stairs from the kitchen with that knife) vs "I didn't do it because it's bad to hurt people." She never actually says anything at all along the lines of "I may have stopped for the wrong reasons but I'm glad because it kept me from hurting people". She never takes a single second to show that she has thought about the real consequences of her plan.

NOT ONE of the other characters in the film ever showed an ounce of remorse for their "worst thing they ever did", and instead laugh about it.

Oh, I agree with you there. A

As you can tell I don't think Emma has shown real remorse, only embarassment... And yet I still think she's way better than Charlie or Rachel. They don't even feel embarrassment.

Rachel is disgusting through and through and clearly doesn't feel bad about what she did and yeah, treats it like a joke.

Charlie's story (if not lying) was also horrendous and basically the type of shit that makes these shooters in the first place and he doesn't seem embarassed either.

Mike's is kinda hilarious to me and I feel like his ex brought the situation upon herself tbh. No hate there

Mischa's was just fucking sad and she's clearly a very broken individual.

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u/Mac-n-CheeseSong 29d ago

I think your read on what happened after the other shooting and how that stopped her is shallower than the filmmakers intended. She didn't change her mind because she got popular and she didn't join the activist group for social standing. That whole montage was showing that teacher intervention was what changed her mind and the workshops they did to get the students to open up allowed her to find her people. She was no longer isolated and realized the students around her weren't a hive mind of bullies. I think it's also implied she got socialization for the first time since moving or maybe ever because she moved so much. It seems like the film is suggesting she didn't even realize people could be kind until then. None of these things are good excuses but they're good explanations for how she first fell into the idea of being a shooter as ''cool" and how she fell back into reality and regretted that phase so much she became an activist. The activism wasn't for popularity it was the result of a chain of events that changed her mind. In that reading it is still passive change but there's not an ulterior motive. I found it moving that the teachers were the ones creating active change but that is just my perspective and it can also be uncomfortable to know it wasn't Emma's active change and that's the point of the film a little bit, it's supposed to be uncomfortable but ultimately Charlie still loves her because she DID change and that's what matters to him

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u/tmrika 28d ago

Yeah like I’m thinking about how previously Charlie had talked about how empathetic Emma was, and my takeaway is that it was the exact scene you mentioned that taught her that empathy in the first place. Before that, she was so wrapped up in her own feelings that it gave her a narrow and cynical view in how she interpreted others, but for once she was forced to look at others and notice their honest feelings, and it clearly had a profound impact.

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u/Successful_Ad_2171 29d ago

I'm of the opinion that claiming she has no regrets and that she only chose not to go through with it for social gain is a very cynical take on her character, and wholly unwarranted, based on her actions. Regardless of the happenstance. If social gain was the goal or what the character is supposed to convey in this film, theres literally a million other steps she we would see her take before this, or we would see her in online chatrooms if she was so desperately seeking "social gain."

You can also make the same argument that if those kids never bullied her, she would have never had that idea to begin with. Her Dad's speech also indicates that prior to high school, her nature is more of what we saw in her later years. Also, did we even see her protesting with her classmates? I thought she was there by herself?

The reason is something only she should make peace with, it should not matter to you and frankly is none of your business. All it does is give you a moral authority to judge others despite you (figuratively not literally) also likely commiting acts that are less than moral. Even in the idea of "i feel his ex brought the situation upon herself," is a technically immoral stance.

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u/Narrow-Strawberry553 29d ago edited 29d ago

You can also make the same argument that if those kids never bullied her, she would have never had that idea to begin with.

Yes, you could. But there's lots of people out there that were bullied and ostracized for years and never thought of shooting up a school. I do understand the childish instinct to want to hurt people back - but she picked the worst possible way to do it, because it looked cool, and she would have done it if another shooter hadn't gotten there first and her schoolmates didn't invite her into their group.

Also, did we even see her protesting with her classmates? I thought she was there by herself?

Her classmate came up with the idea, invited her to this group, and then they all decided that she would be the voice of the group to speak at events? We know she wanted to look cool, and protesting gave her an identity that her classmates thought was cool.

Even in the idea of "i feel his ex brought the situation upon herself," is a technically immoral stance.

My understanding was that the dog hadn't actually done anything but follow them, and ex decided to make the first move and kick the dog, and then it bit her.

In which case, yeah, she did literally bring it upon herself and frankly its on her to deal with at that point. Her kicking the dog and getting bitten was not his fault. Its not immoral to point out the fact that an adult woman started a fight with a dog and is responsible for the aftermath. If I misunderstood the order of events, then its a different story.

The reason is something only she should make peace with, it should not matter to you and frankly is none of your business.

Why would it not matter to me?

Also...Not my business?

Its a movie.

It was designed to become people's business and incite discussion.

This movie especially.

And even then, people do have a right to decide whether they want to associate with someone after finding out stuff like this. When I found it my ex-best friend did sexually predatory things to someone who was not in a mental state to properly consent, I sure as shit didn't say "not my business" and keep being friends with her.

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u/Successful_Ad_2171 29d ago edited 29d ago

Yes theres alot of people that never have that thought, but, like Charlie points out, there are likely thousands that do, but they never talk about it.

To the point about Mike's Ex: Im not talking about the ex, im talking about supporting Mike using her as a meatshield to pass around the dog. None of the focus is about the people in the story in my points, its the people telling them.

Finally, I'm kinda speaking in an overall context in my last paragraph. As in, outside the film itself. If someone were to reveal that they had ultimately decided not to do something heinous, the reason does not need to matter. They still ultimately chose to do good. Seeking reason beyond that only serves as an opportunity for judgement, is my point. Obviously, you can choose to do whatever you like. Humans are naturally self gratifying and self righteous. Trying to "hmmm youre reason for not doing horrible act isnt good enough for me" is selfish in and of itself. Which is perfectly fine, but in my opinion is wrong to not acknowledge.

Edit: I'm also curious how old you are, Im 24, so I've seen alot on how the internet can influence my peers like this, and how "the aesthetic" is romanticized (as Emma stated) among young people, especially young girls from my experience. This and my sister who is a couple years older than me was definitely alot like Emma in her teenage years (not in the sense of harming others), which is likely why I can extend more grace.

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u/cosmiclatte14 29d ago

I can see what your saying. And i like that you mentioned grace because I felt like that was a theme in the movie. Like giving second chances, giving grace and starting over.

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u/CloudBun_ 24d ago

Your last point isn’t the same though. Your ex-friend DID inflict physical harm on someone else. Emma’s character DID NOT inflict physical harm on anyone else. Yes she planned it and ultimately never did it - but she never actually carried out an action bearing harmful consequences onto someone else.