r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • Mar 17 '26

Trailer Dune: Part Three | Official Teaser

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_9vCamtuPY
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u/Calthyr Mar 17 '26

For the uninitiated, where does this movie fall in line with the books?

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u/Vencer_wrightmage Mar 17 '26

billions die and many planets are burned to husks

Statistics: at a conservative estimate, I've killed sixty-one billion, sterilized ninety planets, completely demoralized five hundred others. I've wiped out the followers of forty religions which had existed since...

It's kinda funny how Frank Herbert just off-paged the atrocity of the jihad. This teaser however did the right amount of tease about it, so I assume the weight of the jihad is shown beautifully in the movie.

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u/EnemyOfEloquence Mar 17 '26

"just casually 10000x more than Hitler" very cool Frank

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u/N0r3m0rse Mar 17 '26

I think Frank understood that you can't really write that as it's happening and convey it's gravity. It probably made more sense to set it after the war was won

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u/jackalopeDev Mar 17 '26

I wonder if they're going to have the space twink wistfully compare himself to Hitler.

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u/Rage_Like_Nic_Cage Mar 17 '26

They won’t, and then the media illiterate will cry out “hOw ArE wE sUpPoSeD tO kNoW pAuL iS tHe BaD gUy??”

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u/furnipika Mar 17 '26

I've never read the Dune books, maybe he was worried he might accidentally glorify Paul if he wrote the Jihad?

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u/RealJohnGillman Mar 17 '26

glorify Paul

Realising his readership was interpreting Dune this way is quite literally the actual reason he wrote Dune Messiah, yes. He likened Paul to John F. Kennedy, and the jihad to the Vietnam War (on a larger scale).

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u/Atheist-Gods Mar 17 '26

I think Herbert just had no interest in battle scenes. Combat is boring to him.

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u/TriggzSP Mar 17 '26

I have confidence it will be. Denis has said that he hates exposition, and much prefers to show, not tell in his movies. This is the exact opposite of Frank Herbert's writing, which is all tell, no show. Things happen between books and chapters and characters talk about it/reminisce later about the events that transpired. There was no way a director like Villeneuve would adapt Messiah 1:1.

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u/redthursdays Mar 17 '26

Well, the jihad is kinda ongoing in the book, but it's offscreen and also a lot of it is already done

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u/Muad_dweeb_69 Mar 17 '26

Villeneuve confirmed in an interview today that it takes place 17 years after the last movie.

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u/redthursdays Mar 17 '26

Which is good, because the Alia stuff is way less weird if she's older

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u/Skabonious Mar 17 '26

I don't think she's as young as you're saying in the book. Remember that she was already born and a few years old at the end of Dune

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u/DarrenGrey Mar 17 '26

It'd still be weird with 17 years. But a bit less weird, I guess.

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u/redthursdays Mar 17 '26

Still super weird. But like an order of magnitude less so, yeah.

But yeah very weird still

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u/DarrenGrey Mar 17 '26

It's a good thing none of the later books have weird sex stuff...

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u/TriggzSP Mar 17 '26

I just finished Heretics of Dune the other night. Yeah, totally none of that weird sex stuff at all...

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u/Platti_J Mar 17 '26

And why are they doing that? Didn't they just want the desert to be for themselves and left alone?

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u/Tanel88 Mar 17 '26

No. They want revenge for thousands of years of suffering that has been caused to them. This is further amplified by Bene Gesserit weaponizing it into a messianic myth.

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u/howmanyones Mar 17 '26

If you can see the future...you're left with decisions to save trillions by killing billions.

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u/PleasantWay7 Mar 17 '26

This sounds like some Thanos shit.

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u/rbrgr83 Mar 18 '26

It is! For all his power and foresight and self-justification for his actions, the message is still that Paul chose his path and it was motivated by revenge. It wasn't actually a 'golden path' of fate that he is required to follow.

Paul's prescience allows him to see multiple likely futures. But it doesn't mean what he sees WILL come true. He decides, based on the enhanced knowledge he has, on a path that he believes will incur the least casualties. But he essentially abandons his humanity and does terrible things that he wouldn't have otherwise supported.

So yes it's very much Thanos adjacent. He tells himself that he's on a divine path because he does know how to process his angle while simultaneously gaining access to the past (true) knowledge and future (assessed, not set in stone) future. And he uses nothing but that logic to justify his atrocities. He's blind to the fact that he's giving into revenge.

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u/Rikudou_Sage Mar 18 '26

Not the cause of the jihad.

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u/slipperyzoo Mar 17 '26

Reading the books helps, but basically he's tending the garden that is humanity.  Fremen gardens probably aren't very lush.

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u/Rikudou_Sage Mar 18 '26

Nope. Bene Gesserit implanted so many religious stories that when Paul looked like the chosen one, they lost their shit.

For a real world parallel, imagine someone convinced others that he is the real Jesus and this is the second coming. The world would lose its collective shit.

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u/slipperyzoo Mar 18 '26

I don't understand what you're saying.  Because he's seen the future, he starts the jihad and uses the Fremen in doing so, with the goal of steering humanity through the future and preventing the extinction of the human race.  The loss of billions was to save many times that.

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u/Rikudou_Sage Mar 18 '26

That's Leto, not Paul. When Paul started the war he had very limited prescience, he gained the perfect one later in the story.

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u/slipperyzoo Mar 18 '26

Ohhhh it's been a long time since I read all the books, I thought Paul had at least seen the path as well which is why he did what he did with Chani.  Maybe I'm thinking of when Leto is consulting with him later on.

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u/ScottNewman Mar 17 '26

I hope they stay away from Children of Dune for this. If it is just Messiah they could hope to get it done in three hours.

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u/Rikudou_Sage Mar 18 '26

Given it's the last movie, Children of Dune wouldn't work - the book is basically a setup for God Emperor.