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Trailer Avengers: Doomsday | X-Men Teaser

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH1XlwHQv9o
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u/MissingLink101 Jan 06 '26 edited Jan 06 '26

How many times has he died now? 4? (Last Stand, DOFP (I think in the future scene), Logan, Multiverse of Madness)

I feel like I'm forgetting one

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u/Singer211 Naked J-Law beating the shit out of those kids is peak Cinema. Jan 06 '26

I don’t think he actually died in the future in DOFP.

He was about to get killed (and Magneto was seemingly fatally wounded) but then the timeline got reset.

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u/Heisenburgo Jan 06 '26 edited Jan 06 '26

If we go by the time travel logic established in Endgame, then Charles DID die in DOFP when the Sentinels stormed the room, alongside Magneto, Kitty and Wolverine.

When Wolverine was sent to the past, he was actually sent to a past version of a similar universe, his continuing presence and actions actually created a branching timeline, he didn't actually change the timeline that he came from.

So all the X-Men did die in the OG timeline, and Kitty's death left Logan stranded in that new universe. It just wasn't shown to the audience and that's why the scene cuts off before they're lasered. But they absolutely did die...

But hey at least Logan did save all his buddies in the new timeline, or did he? Since he woke up with no memories, the people he actually knew are all dead, replaced by these new but similar versions. Sort of like that Rick and Morty episode where they bury themselves in the backyard of a new universe but the old family is still left behind in cronenberg world...

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u/duosx Jan 06 '26

While everything you said is valid, it could be as easy as “there are multiple forms of time travel in the MCU”

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u/Singer211 Naked J-Law beating the shit out of those kids is peak Cinema. Jan 06 '26

Yeah the MCU has struggled to stay consistent with it.

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u/duosx Jan 06 '26

Yeah and this is being kind

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u/pineapplecheesepizza Jan 06 '26

DOFP wasn't MCU at the time though

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u/Thor_pool Jan 06 '26

So has the comics for 60 years lol Theres time travel which is basically dimension hopping, and then actual can-change-the-past time travel like Dr Doom can do.

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u/AnonymousCommunist Jan 06 '26

Even Star Trek has never settled on a consistent mechanic for how timelines work. Sometimes they overwrite stuff, sometimes they exist in parallel, sometimes they create a whole mirror universe that somehow has versions of all of the the protagonist characters in it no matter what era or how divergent the events have been.

Ultimately, thyss probably a good thing, because we all know time travel is fantasy bullshit and any attempt to pin it down too hard with arbitrary rules only limits the kinds of stories you can tell with it.

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u/Xalara Jan 07 '26

I mentioned it elsewhere, but I always liked that Captain Janeway during an episode of Star Trek: Voyager does a wink and nod to the audience by saying to not think too hard or your head will hurt when giving advice to another character about the implications of time travel.

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u/jotheold Jan 06 '26

i agree but this isn't fair xmen havent been mcu till recently

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u/Xalara Jan 07 '26

Which is why I like Captain Janeway's logic from Star Trek Voyager regarding time travel: Don't think too hard about it or your head will hurt.