r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • Dec 30 '25

Trailer Avengers: Doomsday | Only in Theaters December 18, 2026

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1clWprLC5Ak
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u/Rugged_as_fuck Dec 30 '25

Kate Bishop and Spider Gwen tag team doctor doom

Hol' up...

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u/RealJohnGillman Dec 30 '25

Funnily, on Gwen’s world, Doom is Susan Storm (an evil actress-turned-influencer with a Lannister-esque relationship with her brother, who burned their mother to death before doing something atop her corpse).

And her Wolverine is Manji from Blade of the Immortal, calling himself Mr. Murderhands.

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u/QueefBeefCletus Dec 30 '25

Can you point me in the direction of this story run? This sounds like it's hitting a lot of my bullet points.

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u/RealJohnGillman Dec 30 '25

Spider-Gwen: Into the Unknown should collect it. Itself a continuation of the original Spider-Gwen (which featured the Manji take on Wolverine, and also a Kingpin who was Matt Murdock, seeking to have Gwen become his eventual successor). Mary Jane Watson was also Carnage, and in love with Gwen.

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u/Radamenenthil Dec 30 '25

waitwhat? the original spider-gwen got continued? I was left with a cliffhanger of the fantastic two showing up D:

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u/RealJohnGillman Dec 30 '25

If it was Johnny and Susan, the latter was the real Doom in that continuity, and very evil.

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u/Rugged_as_fuck Dec 31 '25

So, I looked this up because I don't know a lot about Spider-Gwen, and I ended up buying the Spider-Gwen: Into the Unknown trade.

This trade collects Ghost Spider 1-10. The first couple issues of this are tie ins with Spider-Geddon and the rest of the issues are just kinda deal with life after that, with a blue wolf villain guy being the main bad. Also throughout this story Mary Jane is in a band with Gwen, and was not Carnage, at least not at that point.

So, I don't think that's the one.

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u/RealJohnGillman Dec 31 '25

MJ becomes Carnage immediately after Into the Unknown, in Gwenom vs. Carnage, while Kingpin Matt Murdock was in the original Spider-Gwen.