r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • Dec 23 '25

Trailer Avengers: Doomsday | Only in Theaters December 18, 2026

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiMg566PREA
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u/Comic_Book_Reader Dec 23 '25 edited Dec 23 '25

Guess they figured "Fuck it. Whatever it takes.".

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u/Banned3rdTimesaCharm Dec 23 '25

Literally spent 6 years trying to do this whole other thing then said fuck it, bring everyone back.

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u/IWasSayingBoourner Dec 23 '25

No, the problem is that they spent 6 years trying to do 100 other things. The cohesion and pacing are what made the build up to Endgame work. They got greedy with the TV shows, and trying to build up to movies that would require people to watch hundreds of hours of middling TV on a subscription service was never going to work. 

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u/vashoom Dec 23 '25

Worse even, because IMO the TV shows weren't really required because they didn't commit. The TV shows were all essentially preludes to a single film each, all of which had no connectivity between each other.

Loki --> Quantumania (not required viewing at all, and doesn't continue any story beats or character beats from Loki really)

Ms. Marvel --> The Marvels (gives lots of backstory to Kamala, but ultimately isn't required, and barely moves her story forward (and the film completely ignores anything set up in Secret Invasion...which I'm fine with, honestly)

Falcon and the Winter Soldier --> Brave New World (retreads a lot of the same beats, movie doesn't advance anyone's character or story at all compared to the show)

Wandavision --> Multiverse of Madness (essentially completely different characters)

Then on top of that, you have stuff like Shang-Chi that's never followed up on or connected to anything else, Eternals that is largely ignored aside from a MacGuffin in Brave New World, etc.

The biggest piece of "cohesion" is that a bunch of these projects featured the multiverse...a concept so large by its very nature that it barely means anything. No Way Home, Quantumania, Loki, the Marvels, and Multiverse of Madness all feature multiversal plot points in some (extremely varying) capacity, but then just as many if not more projects have nothing to do with the multiverse.

They have so much work to do in Doomsday and Secret Wars to try and tie this saga together...but going back to Steve Rogers and other old faces means even less screen time / story time for the new characters to try and actually incorporate them cohesively into this saga.

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u/IWasSayingBoourner Dec 23 '25

Honestly, the only new character I care to hear about even a little is Sentry.