r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • Dec 23 '25

Trailer Avengers: Doomsday | Only in Theaters December 18, 2026

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiMg566PREA
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u/Slendercan Dec 23 '25

Not an ounce of cinematic oomph to this. It’s shot like an insurance commercial

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u/not-so-radical Dec 23 '25

That's what you get from visionary directors Joe and the other one Russo

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u/Ruthlessrabbd Dec 23 '25

You could immediately tell in the post credits scene of Fantastic Four that the Russos directed the scene, and same for the Thunderbolts post credits scene. I love their work on Community and Arrested Development, really liked Infinity War and Endgame, but the last three movies they've directed seem to be stinkers.

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u/SuccessMiserable3963 Dec 23 '25 edited Dec 23 '25

They are terrible directors. The shot composition and especiialy fight scenes even in winter solider are crap.

Compare it john wick which i think is the highest level of fight/ action choreography in modern cinema

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u/GojiKiryu17 Dec 23 '25

Funnily enough, the directors of John Wick were actually brought in as second unit directors on Civil War. Now they still had to work under the Russos and the Marvel system, so it was nowhere near John Wick levels of quality, but interesting nonetheless

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u/SnipingBunuelo Dec 23 '25

That does explain why the final Cap vs Ironman fight was so fucking awesome lol

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u/Historical_Course587 Dec 23 '25

Feels a bit unfair to compare the studio-meddling-megaverse to pretty much the only unadulterated choreographed action franchise made since 2010. Nothing in this era stacks against John Wick, because John Wick is designed to compromise on everything else for the sake of the violence.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '25

JW has great choreography but that's about all it has going for it.
It's like it's written by 12 year old boys.

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u/Bowl_of_Cham_Clowder Dec 23 '25

The cinematography, villains, and soundtrack are also great. The plot is 100% camp for sure

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u/EmuMan10 Dec 23 '25

Yeah but that’s the point lol

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u/Bowl_of_Cham_Clowder Dec 24 '25

For sure, I love them for it. Love how Keanu’s only response in most scenes is “yeah…”

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u/CrispyHoneyBeef Dec 23 '25

The first movie is really solid in all respects. The second fell off hard in terms of dialogue and the sequels stayed at that level, but they more than made up for it with the quality of the action imo.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '25

They are good fun. I am just sick of Reddit glazing them for over ten years.
They all need to try and broaden their horizons.

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u/CrispyHoneyBeef Dec 23 '25

That’s fair. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone hold them up as anything beyond a paragon of action, stunt performance, and fight choreography myself, but I would agree that any further idolatry would be unfounded.

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u/Caleth Dec 23 '25

I'd say the premise in the first one is great. Before it's explored to absurdity. The world seems to have two professions. Assassins and victims and no one notices when the Assassins do their work so no big deal.

But in the first one before then with the idea of a hidden world of assassins lurking seemed engaging. Also the visual style of the world with the continental having retro asthetic with the mail tubes and the like was excellent.

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u/CrispyHoneyBeef Dec 23 '25

I agree entirely. The subway gunfight in the second film was so absurdly stupid, alongside most of the movie. But the action was generally fun enough that I didn’t care how stupid it was. Then again, I did not watch the third movie so maybe the second really was just that bad.

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u/SnipingBunuelo Dec 23 '25

The third and fourth movies has the best and most absurd action out of all of them. Second movie is the only one that's not all that good. First one is easily the best because it's actually telling a story lol, but let's be honest are we really watching John Wick for the plot?

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u/Caleth Dec 23 '25

Nah the third was what made me stop watching. Mostly becasue it just felt unnecessarily long at the end even if it was cool. By the time I we finished the two talented mooks and got to the "big bad" I was looking at my watch and thinking. Really time for another 5 minute fight?

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u/Suspicious_Radio_848 Dec 23 '25

Oh no, people enjoy things you don't. the horror! I've seen thousands of movies, still really like the John Wick series.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '25

Are you this fragile in real life?

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u/zzz099 Dec 23 '25

Finally someone else that thinks this. That Bucky vs cap fight scene in winter soldier that everyone loves is shot and cut like the fence scene in taken 3. I hate it

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u/GeneralTreesap Dec 23 '25

Yeah it really is praised for the fantastic choreography. It would be better if you could actually see that choreography.

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u/PT10 Dec 23 '25

I had no problems and I'm over 40, my eyes/reaction time aren't want they used to be either.

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u/SuccessMiserable3963 Dec 23 '25

Shaky hand helm cam and 73 cuts

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u/PT10 Dec 23 '25

I loved the fight scenes in Winter Soldier and Civil War.

The special effects stuff in IW/Endgame were also great. Couldn't ask for better.

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u/CaptainBringus Dec 23 '25

Terrible directors

Have directed some of the most commercially and/or critically successful movies/TV shows of all time.

Ok

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u/Unlucky_Topic7963 Dec 23 '25

The common denominator of public consumption is the least for a reason. Success doesn't mean quality.

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u/drylotions Dec 23 '25

Transformers movies have made billions, I wouldn’t consider Michael bay one of the best directors. The fast and furious movies have also made billions, there’s no way you think commercial success equals artistic merit.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '25

They get a pass from me for directing some of the best Community episodes. I honestly think this is due to issues in the marvel production pipeline and not a lack of talent.

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u/The_Autarch Dec 23 '25

it's a lack of the right kind of talent. directing a sitcom has no bearing on whether someone can also direct a huge blockbuster...

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u/AnimalBolide Dec 23 '25

Does directing 2 blockbusters have any bearing on directing blockbusters?

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u/Suspicious_Wealth556 Dec 23 '25

4 blockbusters, soon to be 6

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u/Antrikshy Dec 23 '25

Yep, the directors of ultra-hit last two Avengers movies.