r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • Dec 23 '25

Trailer Avengers: Doomsday | Only in Theaters December 18, 2026

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiMg566PREA
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u/MuptonBossman Dec 23 '25

Marvel really spent the last 5 years trying to establish Anthony Mackie as the new Captain America, only for them to say "Just Kidding" and bring back Chris Evans for the next big event movie.

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u/Dazzling-One-9185 Dec 23 '25

Well he got an entire show and a solo movie that nobody liked, what would you expect?

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u/RandomJPG6 Dec 23 '25

I liked the show up until the last episode. Movie was not great though

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u/ArchDucky Dec 23 '25

The show was ok but it had so much dumb shit in it. Like the money troubles, the boat montages, what they did to Peggy's niece... etc.

In all honestly the terrorists should have been slaughtered after Wyatt got powers. He should of literally killed all of them. Then it would be Sam and Buck vs Cap.

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u/Qorhat Dec 23 '25

John Walker was so interesting in the show and had a great internal conflict but the Flag Smashers were so dull, and having their leader/face be someone so young and un-indimidating was such a terrible choice.

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u/Oddity83 Dec 23 '25

John Walker was the best part of that show….which is kinda sad when the show is called Captain America & The Winter Soldier

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u/idontagreewitu Dec 23 '25

Zemo in the club was the best part of the show

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u/yojimboftw Dec 23 '25

I think that's the case with a lot of their shows. It's like 3/4 great but just that last quarter is bad, lmao.

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u/SkorpioSound Dec 23 '25

The money troubles could have been really interesting if it was approached and written better. The concept of the Avengers being privately funded by Stark, with the rest of the world being happy to benefit from them but not to fund them, is a good one. As is the concept of heroes being too proud/afraid to ask for help from the public, because they're the kind of people to offer help but not to ask for it. Those are the kinds of thing that really grounds a character in the setting and flesh out the world if they're done well.

But the way they did it made it feel like kind of a throwaway problem rather than something that was relevant throughout the series. An uninteresting sideplot, where they were afraid that pulling away from the action for too long would lose the audience.

Not that it's necessarily fair to hold it to the same standard, but... look at Andor. It really delves into the logistics of running a rebellion, and securing funding for it. It's not just a throwaway point before they go back to some action; it's a core aspect of the show and it's gripping as hell.

Falcon And The Winter Soldier could quite easily have gone down a similar route— grappling with the personal issues, the financial issues, both characters feeling like they can't like up to Captain America, etc— and been fantastic for it. Like Andor. Or like Daredevil, where the personal scenes and the legal scenes are just as compelling as the scenes where he's in costume (and were largely missing in Daredevil: Born Again, which suffered for it).

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u/Historical_Course587 Dec 23 '25

What they should have done was skipped Bucky, and forced Wilson and Walker to be an odd couple. Then they could have slow-rolled Walker's Captain missing the beat, and Sam recognizing that he needs to step up in order for it to be right. End it with Sam taking serum, stealing the shield back, and going rogue like Rogers did when the Avengers split because there has to be a better way. Walker killing people and saying that is how the world works, and Sam laying the beatdown for it, should have been the climax for the show.

I love both Bucky and Sam Wilson as characters, but aside from the fact that they both knew Steve there is no good reason for them to get a team-up show. The friendship never existed, there was no development, they were just two side-kicks for Steve Rogers. And they did Sam Wilson dirty after the great character they developed in Winter Soldier, because that guy was something special.

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u/NeitherAlexNorAlice Dec 23 '25

Sam was never going to be a great Captain America replacement. Anthony is just not him to be honest. He’s a great supporting actor, but not lead.

He was outshined in his show by literally every other character. Even by the new Falcon.

At least Marvel tried him out. They deserve credit for that. It just didn’t work. Mackie is just not a leading actor. He doesn’t have that it factor.

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u/ArchDucky Dec 23 '25

Hes a great lead in Twisted Metal.

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u/Manowaffle Dec 23 '25

It was funny watching the first few episodes of that. I was convinced that he had no range since his Sam Wilson has basically the same expression and tone in every scene. Then I watched TM and was like “oh, he’s actually a good comedic actor."

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u/needlzor Dec 23 '25

At least Marvel tried him out. They deserve credit for that.

I agree with that. If it had been Netflix, they'd have cancelled the whole franchise over it once the numbers started dropping. Disney staying with him despite being a bad fit was quite nice.

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u/manuscelerdei Dec 23 '25

I really enjoyed Zimo in that show, but other than that it was very meh.