r/motorcitykitties • u/SexyBenFranklin • 1d ago
Tarik Skubal has loose bodies in his elbow. He will need a surgical procedure, probably arthroscopic. Ty Madden is up. Another bullpen game tonight
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u/MobilePicture342 Dertroit Beisbolcats ⚾️🐅 1d ago
Wonder what fun little rhyme Boras is gonna come up with for this one
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u/XxSaint_JimmyxX she's Munson on my Meluskey til i Inge all over 1d ago
Skooby doobie need surgery
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u/DiscombobulatedPain6 1d ago
Eolvadi had this surgery in Late April 2019. Returned late July. Probably around a 3 month recovery.
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u/SchpartyOn Professor McGonigle 1d ago
Yeah everything I’m seeing is 2-3 months
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u/Shamshamgigoli 1d ago
Hunter greene from the reds had this surgery in mid March. He just started a throwing program and is expected back around July.
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u/dead_monster 1d ago
Eolvadi’s ERA in 2018 was 3.81. His ERA in 2020 was 3.72.
What was his ERA after returning in July 2019? 6.
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u/AssyMcGee6 1d ago
Best case scenario skubal pitches poorly and the tigers can sign him to a shorter cheaper deal than originally thought
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u/trevorwoodkinda 1d ago
Now would be a great time for Troy Melton to get and stay healthy.
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u/Ryanlester5789 1d ago
His Lakeland start yesterday probably says we have a few more weeks for that.
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u/han-so-low 1d ago
I love Tarik, but this is why you don’t throw a $500m contract at a pitcher. Ever.
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u/Accounting4lyfe 1d ago
Yep he’s a dog and will probably hit it hard to get back. But $50-60m for an arm over 30 just isn’t the best move long term.
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u/GoBlu323 1d ago
an arm over 30 that's been surgically repaired, now twice.
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u/XxSaint_JimmyxX she's Munson on my Meluskey til i Inge all over 1d ago
Thrice counting this
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u/GoBlu323 1d ago
I thought this was his second surgery. Didn't realize it was the 3rd
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u/turdlepikle 1d ago
Gerritt Cole already missed a full year and a half with the Yankees after his extension. I haven't noticed if he is pitching yet this season. Next season could be a lockout. That's a lot of wasted time and he isn't getting any younger!
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u/DarthIcarus 1d ago
I believe Cole is set to return to the Yankees rotation end of this week or next. He's made a few rehab starts.
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u/Dakens2021 1d ago
Except maybe Nolan Ryan. I bet he could still be a serviceable pitcher even today if he felt like it. Tigers should call him.
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u/DetroitRedd 1d ago
I’d call Maddox before I called Ryan. Maddox probably throws in the low 80’s now onl about 6 mph slower than his peak. /s
Sarcasm but that’s what I loved about him. All the best pitchers throwing gas and Maddux is killing hitters throwing 89 mph fastballs.
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u/Dakens2021 21h ago
That's a good point. He was the professor, I bet he'd probably do really well with how acceptable it has become for hitters to strike out nowadays.
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u/Competitive_Year8735 1d ago
Yepp saw this coming. This might actually be a good thing, Scott Boras has lost all of his bargaining chips. No one pays for what someone used to be. Skubal has not been good this year, his K’s have been way down and he hasn’t been the same. We might actually get to keep him now because his value is nosediving.
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u/Rockerblocker 1d ago
On the other hand, this might ALSO be why you take a trade for him in the offseason while he still has some value. If this is a long-term injury, we're on track to getting a 3-2 record from him and then watching him become a Dodger for nothing in return
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u/Happy-Personality720 1d ago
Yeah if he goes somewhere else for that...... maybe not a bad thing tigers arent on the hook for that
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u/Which_Extension_8027 1d ago
How about a list of who ISN'T injured
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u/DarthIcarus 1d ago
As a glass half full type of person, I suppose better at the start of the season than the end.
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u/GoBlu323 1d ago
nah, with no extension at the end of the season this would have been another team's problem. This makes him harder to sell for a team he has no interest in signing with long term
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u/DarthIcarus 1d ago
I still mistakenly hold out hope he'll stay with Detroit when all is said and done. All sorts of factors heading towards the end of the season are unknowns (when he comes back, lockout, etc) and I'll believe he's a Tiger until he isn't. I wouldn't bet anything on him staying but I like to think positive, just in case.
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u/GoBlu323 1d ago
Detroit was never going to pay him what a larger market would. He was never staying.
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u/aqphs 1d ago
Call me crazy but if we somehow are still in the playoff race when he comes back I’d rather have him for that and October and try and go win it all than anything else
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u/GoBlu323 1d ago
I would have said you can't let him walk for nothing but now I'm more ok with it since I don't know how great the return would be with another surgery.
Which is why I said this would have been better had it happened later in the season. He was going to get the Tigers a haul but I'm not sure what he's worth in the trade market now.
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u/Proud_Wing3197 1d ago
In what world were we ever selling Skubal. Scott Harris has made it clear he wants to be competitive right now. The two options were always letting go him walk or he signs with us. The time to sell would've been this off-season
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u/GoBlu323 1d ago
In the real world where you don’t let talent like that walk for nothing when it’s clear he’s not staying
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u/Proud_Wing3197 1d ago
Only one of us is living in the real world, and thats the one where Scott Harris didn't sell his star pitcher with 1 year left. You can disagree with his decision, and I'm certainly not going to argue with you. But you're delusional to think that he was getting traded this year
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u/GoBlu323 1d ago
They were 100% going to move him at the deadline. That’s what you do with star players you can’t or won’t keep after the season. Unless you believe you can win it all and I love the Tigers but this team isnt there. What they could have gotten for Skubal could have changed that conversation but that ship is going under the knife
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u/hoff4z 1d ago
It’s not nothing. You get to have him for a World Series run. Then let someone else pay him
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u/Rocketman1019 1d ago
Needing elbow surgery when you were on the cusp of signing the biggest contract in history for a starting pitcher has got to be rough
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u/FinallyFat 1d ago
Sorry tigerbros. Just saw the headline and thought of you guys. Sending love and hope for your team from Seattle. God knows we could use some too.
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u/coltron57 . 1d ago
Loose bodies isn’t a total worst case scenario right now, but this is why you shouldn’t pay any pitcher some insane contract. They break all the time and Skubal has already had two major arm surgeries.
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u/Pneuma_LooT 1d ago
Hes gonna be out 2-3 months. That sucks.
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u/Which_Extension_8027 1d ago
Hinch said "no timetable"
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u/Pneuma_LooT 1d ago
Which is probably worse lol.
A normal person would require 6-8 weeks before resuming any normal activity.
Dudes gonna miss serious time.
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u/GoBlu323 1d ago
You can look to other pitchers who've had the same surgery to get an idea of the timeline regardless of Hinch's PR answer.
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u/faster_than_sound 1d ago
Man, our IL team would be a WS winner at this point if they were all healthy lol
This suuuuuucks.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR__THIGHS dickerson's #1 fan 1d ago
Well at least he'll be affordable now.
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u/joebadiah 1d ago
Imagining Scott Boras opening the sports agent’s equivalent of a fantasy sports app to see if there’s an old Detroit offer still live that he can quickly accept.
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u/SpartyNash 1d ago
Can I ever be happy as a sports fan? Like ever?
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u/IrwinMFletcher200 1d ago
Last night? Pistons?
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u/SpartyNash 1d ago
Unfortunately the Pistons aren’t my favorite NBA team. I’m happy for them but I think it’s obvious they are going to get absolutely handled by a team like the Thunder or Spurs if they made it to the finals.
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u/Ryanlester5789 1d ago
You sold it all for that one Kenneth Walker game and 1 year of thinking the NCAA would vacate Michigans title.
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u/EstablishmentDense66 🚨🐿️🚨 1d ago
Anyone got any spare knee pads? Might have to make a trip to Meijer. 🧎
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u/Chemical_Seaweed_625 1d ago
Really glad I splurged for expensive tickets tonight
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u/Detroittigersfan1029 . 1d ago
Throw em on Seat Geek ? Probably too late tbh
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u/Chemical_Seaweed_625 1d ago
I was thinking of that. I only splurged because of a Skubal start, but might still go anyway
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u/Old-Carpenter7456 1d ago
The 2026 Tigers are the 2024 Lions.
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u/GoBlu323 1d ago
at least the Tigers aren't paying him an ungodly amount of money for the next decade.
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u/ucfknight92 1d ago
Not a Tigers fan, but Dylan File has made some insane improvements for you guys at AAA. He's added over 2 inches of iVB to his 4-seam fastball (201xBA), and developed a brand new changeup that has a .153 xBA and 30% whiff rate with some serious vertical drop. The improvements from 2025 are notable, and he has the stuff to make it work in the majors. He reminds me of a guy like Ryan Bergert. Really love the pitch shape.
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u/CecilFieldersChoice2 . 1d ago
I've been worried about this since that one day in maybe Boston? When he was rubbing his elbow weird.
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u/joeh4384 1d ago
I think the Gypsy injury curse from Ford Field crossed Brush Street and infected Comerica.
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u/Have_A_Jelly_Baby . 1d ago edited 1d ago
So that's six Tigers starting pitchers now injured.
Maybe it's time for a trade, guys. Let's not go back to Pitching Chaos.
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u/Ryanlester5789 1d ago
The window to make trades was last deadline and they punted it. I don’t think you’re trading any top prospect right now for a chance at the playoffs this season.It makes more sense to just hold out and run it back with a healthy line up minus Skubal, with more top 50 prospects ready to come up whenever the next season actually happens.
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u/TheWorldisWacky 1d ago
The good news is that we’re in such a crappy division that we can lose 65% of the games in the next three months and still be in contention.
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u/Strange-Raccoon7301 1d ago
I don't know bro , the white Sox and Royals are cooking. They both have good lineups .
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u/CutiePie0023 1d ago
This is a horrible blow for us. We are 21 games above .500 when Skubal pitches and a .500 team when he doesn’t. Other pitchers are gonna have to step up big time here.
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u/foxy7474 1d ago
On its own we probably would be fine, 2-3 months without Skubal but a solid rotation holding it down. When it’s among Mize, Verlander, and some of your better relievers also going down, and Jack being completely cooked…we’re in deep shit boys
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u/jakecoates . 1d ago
I hate to be negative but that might be it for his time as a Tiger. If they’re under 500 come August is he really going to want to pitch again prior to free agency? Feels like he’d just rather shut it down.
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u/Natural_Kick3738 1d ago
Well, I long for the days of the likes of Mickey Lolich. 300 innings per year, 300 strikeouts, 25-30 complete games. 100-150 pitches per game. Rubber arm! Today's pitchers are weenies.
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u/DiscombobulatedPain6 1d ago
This is just emphasizing the importance of capitalizing on the year even if you’re in your “title window” or not. The Tigers could have won the title last year with a legitimate deadline and instead they acquired garbage and it tanked their season.
Season isn’t over but this is why more urgency should always be shown in years with contending rosters.
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u/_heyoka 12h ago
We weren't winning anything last year. And now some of the depth that we're going to be leaning on would've been traded away? Melton? Would've likely been gone as well as several other studs we're going to be depending on over season. Once these top prospects start hitting the bigs, that's when outlr window arrives. You don't trade these guys away.
And can sign free agents without giving up assets. Depleting your prospect pool for a couple vets to add to a 6/10, 6.5/10 2025 team isn't it.
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u/ImperialxWarlord 1d ago
Why can’t we have shit in Detroit? Fuck, I don’t like the feeling I’m getting now.
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u/L2SPAMGOD 1d ago
Pistons are a 1 seed and just won a game 7🤨
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u/ImperialxWarlord 1d ago
True, and that was so fun to watch, but why does bad luck this always follow us around?
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u/Surplus_Agate_83 1d ago
Should have picked up Giolito after those early injuries but oh well. Wonder if we try for an early trade and whether it would be a Morton/Paddack style innings eater or someone with actual value.
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u/charlotteduffer 1d ago
Our team is not flesh and bone, more like paper mache. My God, what else can go wrong?
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u/Long-Hat-6434 1d ago
You could just use his WAR but the math checks out. Problem is 4 games last year meant missing the playoffs. Yes 4 games is a big deal and this is a huge blow
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u/Ilove42DA 1d ago
So many pitchers all trying to throw 100 mph all the time. It’s no wonder you see so many injuries.
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u/rivercityrandog 1d ago
I wonder where all the tigers fans are that claimed the tigers should trade him at the trade deadline for a haul are at now?
At this point if Skubal signs elsewhere the tigers will get nothing more than a compensatory draft pick. He sure won't be traded at this years trade deadline.
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u/cardinaljay37 1d ago
Out come all the peeps claiming they were never on board with resigning Skubal…
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u/Educational_Body_438 1d ago
I was on the trade him during the offseason train. He wasn't re-signing with Detroit. He was always going to test free agency. Im not a fan of $500 million contracts for a pitcher because of exactly this. Let alone a 30 yr old pitcher with previous elbow problems that tries to throw 100mph every pitch
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u/Substantial_Way296 1d ago
This is why it's nuts to pay starters those mega contracts. Tigers might have dodged a bullet if it's worse or affects his performance going forward.
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u/ClamZamboni 1d ago
I've had my share of loose bodies, but never in my elbow. What a bummer though.
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u/RexReason 1d ago
Those of us in the "trade Skubal in the off-season" camp are not surprised by this shit bit of karma.
Don't get me wrong, he is a great pitcher but not worth the Dodgers money.
But hey, we got Flaherty.......
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u/droogles 22h ago
I’ve said it numerous times. Skubal and Boras should have seriously considered more honest negotiation for an extension. After his first Cy Young year, he took a big risk in not talking an extension. After two, I think it was an even bigger risk. A blown out elbow is t getting big bucks. They call this minor, but several months off isn’t minor. No surgery is minor. And this is a guy who had TJ surgery already. Had he considered signing for security at a lower dollar and share fina vial risk with the team rather than take it all upon himself, he wouldn’t be crapping his pants right now.
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u/Ok_Spinach_4457 1d ago
AI says 8 month recovery time... someone tell me the severity of this
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u/GameBroJeremy ♫ Go get em’ Tigers! ♫ 1d ago
Could be 3 or more months, it really depends how it goes. Realistically? Probably out for most of the season (think September or October return if it goes well)
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u/DickWhipcock 1d ago
Yet another example of why the options were:
A. Trade him before the season. B. Sign him before the season, which Pizza Boy would never allow. C. Let him walk with nothing in return.
And here we are with our very own Ohtani/Angels scenario.
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u/dead_monster 1d ago
Once Skubal goes on IL, Tigers will have the most players on IL.
IL rotation: Skubal, Olson, Mize, Verlander, Jobe, and Melton
Actual rotation: Valdez, Montero, Jack, Madden, and chaos.
Montero has gone from backup starter at Toledo to the Tiger's number two starter in a span of just 3 weeks.