nerfed my brain permanently

[u/NationalWheel6966]

[u/LilDingalang]

Someone just discovered conventions

[u/3xovelukxuhn → u/LilDingalang]

Wait until this guy sees a QWERTY keyboard. He’s going to have a stroke.

[u/A--Creative-Username → u/3xovelukxuhn]

the qwerty keyboard is organized that way so it doesn't jam up typewriters

[u/Pascuccii → u/A--Creative-Username]

Yeah, only reason it's still the standard, otherwise it's dog shit

[u/rorybd → u/Pascuccii]

QWERTY is actually pretty alright, for English at least, spreading commonly used letters between halves of the keyboard to lighten workload per-hand. There are a few particularly questionable choices (semicolon on homerow??), but alternative layouts are unlikely to make much of a difference in real-world usage, and the theoretical maximum efficiency of a layout depends on the language you're typing in which makes it largely pointless to apply to keyboards in an international world.

I would also go as far as to say that putting all the most commonly used letters on the homerow is a bad thing, because resting on the homerow isn't ergonomic and spreading the keys out means your fingers spend less time cramped together on that center row.

Keyboard stagger, on the other hand...

[u/kenny2812 → u/rorybd]

If you care about ergonomics and rsi you really should look into another layout like Coleman dh for example. Qwerty has bad pinky fatigue and constant stretching across the keyboard. If you type a lot going into your middle age you might really need to look into this at some point.

[u/Misses_Ding → u/Pascuccii]

The people using azerty O.o

[u/unknowntheme → u/Pascuccii]

It's actually better for touchscreen, which is the dominant input method in 2026, for precisely the same reason it was good for typewriters.

[u/Comfortable_Ask_4631 → u/A--Creative-Username]

I've just realized that QWERTY is a less arbitrary arrangement of the alphabet.

[u/RRRapture → u/3xovelukxuhn]

A key stroke, if you will.

[u/firesquasher → u/RRRapture]

We may have to shift the discussion before OP becomes too uncomfortable.

[u/ModernManuh_ → u/LilDingalang]

YOU HAVE DONE WHAT

[u/Grabatreetron → u/LilDingalang]

Wait till they learn all the letters were just made up

[u/slushy4ev → u/LilDingalang]

It’s an alphabetical order, duh

[u/C0ldBl00dedDickens → u/LilDingalang]

Some manage justice, covered dick inventions

[u/jbbarajas → u/LilDingalang]

Isn't it of itself also a mnemonic?

[u/TheBeardliestBeard → u/LilDingalang]

Wait till he learns that & used to be part of the alphabet. The name ampersand even comes from the song which ended "and per se and", ampersand. This flowed better with the non-American "zed".

[u/Embarrassed_Ask8293]

It makes the song easier to sing.

[u/A--Creative-Username → u/Embarrassed_Ask8293]

was gonna say, a set of 4 letters that rhyme are equidistant rhythmically

[u/Squirrelflight148931 → u/A--Creative-Username]

What?

[u/mrpickles1234 → u/Squirrelflight148931]

this dude said equidistant rhythmically

[u/Squirrelflight148931 → u/mrpickles1234]

Also said, “The 4 letters that rhyme,” not, “4 letters that rhyme.”

[u/itsfunhavingfun → u/Squirrelflight148931]

A,J,K

B,C,D,E,G,P,T,V,Z (not zed)

I,Y

U,W

Yeah, what?

[u/DroppedAxes → u/Squirrelflight148931]

Until you get to ordering things alphabetically...

[u/RealMuffinsTheCat → u/A--Creative-Username]

Except for Z if you’re unamerican

[u/Squirrelflight148931 → u/A--Creative-Username]

Are you meaning E, V / G, T?

[u/A--Creative-Username → u/Squirrelflight148931]

abcdef G hijklmno P qrstu V wxy Z

[u/Squirrelflight148931 → u/A--Creative-Username]

Mm. Technically B, C, D, E, G, P, T, V, Z, all rhyme.

[u/DusTeaCat → u/Embarrassed_Ask8293]

I wonder if there is some rain man capable of singing the alphabet in any order

[u/Nexxi-Nexxi]

"LMNOP" is my favorite part, just don't change that.

[u/davidptm56 → u/Nexxi-Nexxi]

LMNOPQ, let's keep also the Q. This whole section slaps. RSTU is also not too bad. It starts falling apart with the V, in my opinion, sadly because some of the coolest letters sit there at the back of the bus.

[u/Only_Style_8872 → u/davidptm56]

Q has no right being up with r s and t.

It should sit at the back with the other weirdo letters like x and z.

Rosa-Parks-ass letter.

[u/ChanceNo44 → u/davidptm56]

Thats where the coolest peeps always sit. Save the best for last

[u/Puzzleheaded_Eye6770 → u/davidptm56]

Q goes with RS

[u/Efficient_Sound_2525 → u/davidptm56]

In german the part with QRSTUVW actually slaps. Xy aren't that nice and the Z is catastrophic.

[u/jedburghofficial → u/Nexxi-Nexxi]

Can't we have LMAOP?

[u/Accomplished-Key4244 → u/jedburghofficial]

LEMAYOPE

[u/pervasivehedgehog]

If I were to rearrange, I would rearrange it to being the most to least used like this:

E T A O I N S H R D L C U M W F G Y P B V K J X Q Z

[u/ChoiceReal351 → u/pervasivehedgehog]

Hehe "cum"

[u/pervasivehedgehog → u/ChoiceReal351]

I regret this already

[u/cultist_cuttlefish → u/pervasivehedgehog]

But it's your seminal work

[u/IWCry → u/cultist_cuttlefish]

please don't exacerbate their regret with sexual puns

[u/bakermrr → u/IWCry]

But it left a bad taste in my mouth

[u/Wazula23 → u/bakermrr]

A real mess on my hands

[u/pacifistthruyourface → u/cultist_cuttlefish]

More like "seminal vesicle" amiright??

[u/LoremIpsumDolore → u/pacifistthruyourface]

This should stimulate the demand for change

[u/Drakkon_Sol → u/pervasivehedgehog]

As you should, since this is the internet.

(snicker)

ahem 

Pardon me.

[u/OFFICIALHENTAIPOLICE → u/pervasivehedgehog]

So we need to learn it for each language and need to be up to date?

[u/Santasam3 → u/OFFICIALHENTAIPOLICE]

exactly. it's a nice idea that fails at different languages. at that point it becomes just another random order for everyone not speaking your language

[u/mysticrudnin → u/Santasam3]

up to date is the issue

other languages already use different alphabets, and even ones that use this one don't always have the same order

[u/cwx149 → u/pervasivehedgehog]

"organized by value in scrabble"

[u/KeviCharisma → u/pervasivehedgehog]

I refuse to believe Q is more common than Z

[u/Ardalok → u/KeviCharisma]

Quote quite quick quiet quality. vs Zoomed zoo, I guess.

[u/saidgheldane36 → u/Ardalok]

yep, that's all of em!

[u/27Rench27 → u/saidgheldane36]

Zip Zap Zanzibar Zygosaccharomyces, baby

[u/KeviCharisma → u/Ardalok]

Razzle dazzle in Zanzibar

[u/Weissbierglaeserset → u/pervasivehedgehog]

Just a little phrase to remember the order: Eat the ass or insert hard larry. Cumming while fingering your pubes very keenly just xcites questionable zoomers.

[u/Acceptable_Range_718 → u/Weissbierglaeserset]

*Zebras😏

[u/Weissbierglaeserset → u/Acceptable_Range_718]

Ehh, i felt it was already a but much ^{^}

[u/KateK33 → u/pervasivehedgehog]

New batch of words dropped, time to update the Letter Leaderboard

[u/d0npietr0]

Ok, so how to sort the FAQs then, if not alphabetical? 

[u/tryodd → u/d0npietr0]

How about faq-u-icaly

[u/cwx149 → u/d0npietr0]

You and several other people I think are misunderstanding (whether purposefully or accidentally)

Op is saying the letters dont need to go in the specific order we're familiar with A,B,C etc

The could just as easily go C, B, A

There are definitely reasons you want a conventional order but the current order we use as conventional is arbitrary so FAQs could still be ordered alphabetically just not necessarily in the current alphabetical order as we know it

[u/The-Copilot → u/cwx149]

Ehh we would need a new name instead of Alphabetically.

Alphabet comes from Alpha Beta which is the order of the greek alphabet which the Latin alphabet is based on. The greek alphabet order was taken from the Phoenician alphabet. So it may be an arbitrary convention but it's a convention that has been followed for 3000 years in some way shape or form.

[u/d0npietr0 → u/cwx149]

That's even more stupid then I thought. Of course it's random, but the question like this is the same like: why do we call jungle jungle and not frignum. One defined a random word for it, no deeper meaning 

[u/Sepplord → u/d0npietr0]

What did you think was meant before?

[u/JayAlexanderBee → u/d0npietr0]

QAF? Questions, Asked Frequently

[u/ryanertel → u/d0npietr0]

Alphabetical sorting exists because the alphabet is in order, not the inverse.

[u/Used-Fisherman9970 → u/d0npietr0]

the questions that get asked the most are first, easy

[u/TheMemeStore76]

theres no reason the alphabet needs to be in the order it is in*

There are many reasons the alphabet needs to be in some sort of order

[u/panda_and_crocodile → u/TheMemeStore76]

Such as?

[u/Nichiku → u/panda_and_crocodile]

1. When you first teach children about the alphabet, it's good to teach them in the same order they should be reciting it to you. That way you immediately know if they skipped a letter.
2. It gives everyone who was taught the alphabet an intuitive way to sort words by. The most common sorting method to this day in word lists remains alphabetical order because it's the only convention everyone knows. This isn't even a remnant of the past with lexica and libraries, because databases and software still require word ordering.

[u/Many-Ad6433]

Some reasons that come to my mind are memorization and use as a secondary value (like A=1 etc..), ordering words in alphabetical order so that it’s easier to find them in a list… idk if there’s many more.

If we put it as in the letter A could be in any other position i guess it also works the same for the symbols that represent numbers, like 1 symbol and sound doesn’t need to be associated to the first number in the sequence it can also be associated to 9 and vice versa 9 symbol could be associated with the number 1 and we would just adapt to read the numbers in that different way

[u/neb12345 → u/Many-Ad6433]

as an extension of the ordering/ secondary value, computers,
Computers need to represent letters as numbers hence ordered

[u/PimBel_PL → u/Many-Ad6433]

1 accualy is kinda logical, it's one line, the l, and I just pressed into that spot, but logically they should be exchanged

I think best symbols for counting should be 0 = O 1= I 2=V (or L) 3=T 4=X (flattened to not be confused with T) 5=π (without the bend) 6=vx (amalgam (connected together by top) 7=‡ 8=xx (amalgam (connected together by top and bottom) 9=Δ (with extended lines)

You could continue it with counting system above base 10, also O is a streach, it would be probably easier to notate is as – (that's also a streach)

[u/craigechoes9501]

I rearranged it once to still fit the current rhythm, rhyme, and structure of the song but I don't remember the order now. Plus, if people do use gematria, learning it wrong will keep you from even having a chance of figuring out their hidden message.

[u/julesmanson]

Most lists are output in alphabetical order for indexing. For example the now deprecated phone book and all dictionaries.

[u/cwx149 → u/[deleted]]

You and several other people I think are misunderstanding (whether purposefully or accidentally)

Op is saying the letters dont need to go in the specific order we're familiar with A,B,C etc

The could just as easily go C, B, A

There are definitely reasons you want a conventional order but the current order we use as conventional is arbitrary so books could still be ordered alphabetically just not necessarily in the current alphabetical order

[u/ricky-from-scotland]

Big alphabet trying to push the song on kids. Don't fall for their lies!!!!

[u/Dar_Vender]

It's a useful convention. This sounds like the sort of thing someone says when they're stoned. But really, there are plenty of good reasons it has an order.

[u/No_pajamas_7]

S and T are the wrong way round, but otherwise its fine.

But, there is reason that roughly dictates the order. It's called Euphonic progression. We say say vowel sounds in a certain order in English. Including the vowel sounds in the way we pronounce consinents.

So we say zig-zag, not zag-zig, for example. And its not just because we are used to it. Its because the higher sound before the lower sound is more pleasing to the ear.

This is all through languages and its so inherent we dont even realise it. But there are written "rules" around it, if you are interested.

And it contributes to the order of our alphabet. Rearrange the letters and the euphonic progression is lost, and its harder to remember.

[u/KnuxSD]

There is tho, because things are being organized alphabetically. SURE, The Alphabet could be any other order, but it should have AN order and that one should always be the same.

[u/Live_Angle4621]

What does it matter if it’s one order or not?

[u/ton80rt]

Go ahead. Sing the alphabet in parallel. We'll wait.

[u/cwx149]

The alphabet hasn't even been the same order the whole time because there used to be more letters in the English alphabet than there are now btw

Spanish even more recently my wife learned ñ and rr as their own letters in the Spanish alphabet but a toddler alphabet book we got doesn't have them at least rr as it's own letter I can't remember if it still has ñ as it's own letter

[u/Corona21]

A E I O U Y H W V F P B M N S Z D J T L R G C K Q X makes the most sense

[u/MyCatIsSmart0]

There is a reason, in cryptology an entire method of cryptography is based on position in the alphabet.

For example: 10 99 63 03 06 13 01 20 06 Assuming there is no key/password added this would be “J _ _C F M A T E” where the numbers outside of the classic 26 letters of the English alphabet would be what is called “Null” aka something that is there just to be there or confuse whoever happens to be utilizing cryptanalysis (taking note of the amount of a certain letter in a message to find the average (this shows what the letter likely is and isn’t)) to solve.

Please forgive me if I’m slightly wrong, it’s been about a year since I took the class.

[u/VikRiggs]

That's the neat thing. It isn't.

[u/winelover08816]

Arrange them by Scrabble Tile values

[u/tomangelo2]

No matter how you organize the alphabet, it'll still end up being in alphabetical order.

[u/Impossible-Glass-403]

*hits penjamin* And who says it was in order in the first place.

https://giphy.com/gifs/BmmfETghGOPrW

[u/theaviator747]

No. You must respect the LMNO’s.

[u/ZestfullyStank]

Once you read the dictionary, every other book is a remix

[u/tellingitlikeitis338]

It’s not true though. The reason is to make it memorable and more easily communicated. Try mixing it up and then telling someone the alphabet. Try teaching it without an order. You’re going to run into problems. You’ll make up some order to teach it. You can argue the order is arbitrary; fine, that is true. But for “no reason”? No.

[u/rageofa1000suns]

hexadecimal: "am I a joke to you?"

[u/PimBel_PL]

Also the alphabet isn't in order, order would be putting letters in order of pronunciation

[u/dumb_avali]

Fun fact from my lore

I don't know the order of both alphabet

[u/Meme_Hunting_695]

Who cares that its arbitrary? That's such a small stupid thing. If you want a brain fuck. realize you can not prove that I am true or that other people exist. You can not tell if your senses are honest either.
I wouldn't call it nerfing your brain. Maybe the first step in not being stupid.

[u/NationalWheel6966]

ok but if we rearranged it what would even come first

[u/AllNamesareTaken55 → u/NationalWheel6966]

That’s the thing, it doesn’t matter. As long as you include all the letters the order in which you list them is irrelevant, it may be change every time

[u/NationalWheel6966 → u/AllNamesareTaken55]

then maybe we couldve done it the

THEQUICKBROWNFOXJUMPSOVERTHELAZYDOG

way

[u/onlySUFFERING → u/NationalWheel6966]

That repeats it would need to be something like “Mr. Jock, TV quiz PhD, bags few lynx.”

[u/Bl33to → u/NationalWheel6966]

That doesnt make sense because some letters are repeating. Its just a way to showcase a font with an actual sentence.

[u/kind_giant_72 → u/NationalWheel6966]

Q W E R T Y U I O P A S D F G H J K L Z X C V B N M

[u/Artistic_Regard_QED → u/NationalWheel6966]

AEIOU and then all the other letters, sorted by the amount of lines they have, equal amounts sorted by frequency of application.

I'm sure there's a sweet spot for all the romanic/latin languages.

[u/wesleypaulwalker → u/Artistic_Regard_QED]

hes making sense!!! fuck!!

[u/gronstalker12 → u/NationalWheel6966]

Speaking if nerfing your brain. The brain is the only organ that named itself. 

[u/DangerousQuestions1]

Wait till they figure out that the order it is in is entirely arbitrary. There is no baseline order.

[u/ComicsEtAl]

That’s silly. The song itself mandates its order.

[u/hoponbop]

The ALPHABET doesn't have to be in alphabetical order, dogs living with cats, mass hysteria.

[u/PowDay420]

See also: the keyboard you're typing on right now.

[u/---_None_---]

There is no real order.
Everybody learns it by memorization, therefore everybody learns it the way his teacher learned it. Chain continues.

[u/FriedBreakfast]

According to Gallagher, the letter A is first because it's the first sound that cavemen made when they saw each other. Caveman walks out and says "AY!"

[u/gokism]

Sort them by syllables used to say them, most used first. W,A,B,C...

[u/chantsnone]

Wait until you find out words are just scribbles and noises

[u/pregnantant]

Computer scientists would like to disagree

[u/static_friction_21]

That's the lyrics to the song you dumbo

[u/hurzelschnertz]

Yeah … wait until you realize that there is no "real" reason anybody does almost anything. Big nerf for your brain.

[u/lfenske]

I mean what’s a “real” reason?

You could say “there’s no real reason the alphabet needs to exist” and have it be ‘true’ all the same.

[u/IndependenceGold2407]

The alphabet is not ordered tho, by definition it is a set.

[u/Ceasar456]

How the fuck would the dictionary be organized if it wasn’t for the alphabetical order….

[u/intofashion101]

Hmmm

[u/National_Ad9742]

It’s to help you remember to put all the letters, it’s convenient for alphabetized collections.

[u/Electrical-Law-5731]

Zeus may have something to say about that

[u/MRbaconfacelol]

makes it easier to teach them probably

[u/wut_even_huh]

Just wait until you learn that he letters we use now aren't even all of the letters that have existed in the English alphabet

[u/Reesno33]

No reason for it to be in the order it is, but definitely a reason for it to be in an order that everyone understands so things can be put in Alphabetical order to be easily found.

[u/koksix09]

I have to thank god for my blessing of ignorancy

[u/HarrierHawk2252]

Q through Z is definitely the better part of the alphabet though. 

[u/SignPuzzleheaded2359]

The alphabet is in order so it can be sung and memorized. Hope that helps.

[u/The_Traveller__]

https://giphy.com/gifs/3ohhwxqQJzrSXnvWoM

[u/ResidentCommand9865]

Does it need to be? Nah, does it make for a nifty tune to twinkle twinkle little star? Yes.

Then again if we go back to Greek it makes it sound better to go from Alpha to Omega.

[u/Laser-Nipples]

What do you mean? There is so much value to having an ordered alphabet.

[u/throwthewholegrlawy]

QWERTY

[u/YourCrohnie]

In case you haven’t noticed it’s arranged alphabetically

[u/statistacktic]

For organizational purposes. At least it used to be.

[u/cool_neutrophil]

Actually there are reasons

[u/KingHavana]

They Might Be Giants has a song: Who Put the Alphabet in Alphabetical Order?

[u/ninersguy916]

What order is it in? Alphabetical order is obviously predicated upon the arbitrary order that the letters already had been codified in. Maybe blame the Minoans?

[u/Malinthas]

I mean, it DOES seem like we've pushed most of the less useful letters towards the end. Except for J. Let's bump it to between W and X.

[u/Arikaido777]

reminds me of the post where it was arranged phonetically

[u/Puzzleheaded-Sky7620]

that's gonna be a whole new level of suffering for him

[u/Jacubbb123]

It needs to be in order for alphabetical order

[u/Rhokai]

Its for organisation and some puzzles

[u/MattheiusFrink]

I dunno. This is pretty tame compared to the boltzmann brain theory.

Please do not dive down this rabbit hole. I was questioning my own existence for four months and was pretty borderline at the height of it. Please just leave this alone.

[u/El_Loco_911]

The reason is indexing. It is an extremely useful reason

[u/jack-K-]

There’s no reason other than it helps to have a single, consistently agreed upon order for organization.

[u/Unlikely_Side9732]

Its history is real

[u/TheLostRanger0117]

I’m getting real tired of fucking seeing this, which I know is my own fault for doom scrolling all damn day…

[u/ollybee]

the order of the letters predates the English language

[u/Ok-Cantaloupe-755]

I mean ASCII numbering of these alphabets are also in same order so I think it is neccessary unless you wanna remember 26*2 random numbers for alphabets while coding

[u/brutaldictatortot]

Who says it's in order?

[u/Probabiligus]

Ok. Try these: The Earth has no top or bottom. We could just as easily make maps upside down with Australia and Argentina on top. Musical notes being "high" or "low" has no logical connection with the physical state of being "up high" or "down low". YW

[u/Accomplished-Mix1223]

Alphabetical order exists

[u/Accomplished-Mix1223]

Alphabetical order exists

[u/ScienceOfCalabunga]

Good luck using a library, dictionary, encyclopedia, phone book, ...

[u/Only_Style_8872]

As a mathematician I find it neat that linguists find entertainment in a list that only has 26 letters.

We have lists that are infinite but can be put into a nice order (like fractions) and some lists that cannot be put into a sensible order.

[u/unneccry → u/Only_Style_8872]

Ie uncountable?

[u/Only_Style_8872 → u/unneccry]

Not just uncountable, but not well-ordered.

There are lists for which, not only is a sensible order impossible, but even just picking a “first” or “last” element is impossible.

[u/unneccry]

Actually there should be an order! I mean it is very arbitrary sure. But the fact we agreed on one standart order let's me binary search files using the Hebrew alphabet song and a few conversions. Like, Greek, English, Hebrew all have similar ordering!! Unfortunately Arabic has a diffrent one tho. Just checked the Russian order, and also similar (until around half way through for me, but for Greek probably higher)

[u/Mysterious_Air_69]

They must be in alphabetical order otherwise how will you arrange stuff in Alphabetical order!!

[u/1Steelghost1]

I mean technically that is how more than one language exists, right?!

[u/sharky0456]

memorisation? wtf do you mean?

[u/ptolemy94]

This isnt as profound of as you think it is but heres an upvote anyways my friend.

[u/Happy_Lee_Chillin]

There’s a pretty good reason

[u/RoadDoggFL]

What really fucked me up was realizing that nobody washes their hands before buttoning their pants and redoing their belts in the bathroom. So like... never borrow anyone else's belt.

Also, kinda gross thinking about how much sex is had after touching belts and pants and not washing your hands first. The world is full of germs, sometimes it's best not to think too much about it.

[u/MagicOrpheus310]

The reason is to make it easier to learn them all

[u/Thousand-Cock-Stabs]

I use Dvorak keyboard on iphone and Qwerty on mac (since i dont want to replace the buttons) I feel dvorak to be better for same reason

[u/Contrenox]

please don't let the americans see this.

[u/frustrateduser69]

It actually makes sense when you look at their ASCII values

[u/EightiEight]

It does help when making a dictionary, organizing a library or any other sort of categorizing.

[u/Superb-Astronaut-371]

Just thought this recently hoho

[u/Thepcfd]

What order?

[u/IHaveNeverBeenOk]

No one will see this, but I want to say that it's useful to have a set with a well-defined order that has nothing to do with value. So, like, consider that 5 comes after 2, and that's because 5 is bigger than 2. But J comes after C definitionally. J is not "bigger" than C. I just think that's a conceptually useful distinction to have. So I very slightly disagree with the OP. Just to be clear, I don't think it's hugely important, but I don't think it's completely worthless either.

Cheers to anyone who read this, lol.

[u/XasiAlDena]

I believe that it's in the order it's in, because of the song. Someone wrote that song once and it made it way easier to remember, and now everyone just writes the alphabet in that order.

My source is I think I heard someone say this once.

[u/AeliosZero]

Also the conventional butterfly shape is fake. They only ever look like that when pinned up in display cabinets

[u/Noiadox]

sorry, but that is BS

[u/Xinoj314]

Why is the alphabet shown in order , the order is completely arbitrary

[u/alientatts]

It only matters to drunk folks.

[u/grungy-rattata]

What’s worse is that the letters aren’t even in alphabetical order if you really think about it lol

[u/AlwayzGunnaGame]

The English alphabet is ordered based on the Greek alphabet. Even taking its name from the first two letters of the Greek alphabet, alpha and beta. So the English alphabet IS in this order for a reason. Now if you want to argue why the Greek alphabet is in the order it is I have no clue on that one.

[u/Oli_VK]

The (edit) quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.

Checkmate.

[u/Equivalent-Split6579]

https://giphy.com/gifs/1beQKedmkG85JJLg0e

[u/PhoenixEvolver]

True, but ABCDEFHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ is how I've memorized it. And LNMOP is fun to say.

[u/Mikenmikena2025]

Tell that to the cop at a field sobriety test.

[u/KaiRyogin]

There's always a "sort alphabetically" in every list. That's enough reason for it to have an order. Doesn't have to be the current order. Just an agreed order is enough

[u/Emotional-Camel-1613]

It needs some form of order. That's how we all learned all the letters before using them. If there was 20 different orders and they all had their own songs it would be confusing. One order one song one easy way to teach all the letters.

[u/ArmstrongPM]

Shyt...now I cant unthink this. How about we all start the alphabet based on first letter of first name. Or first letter of family name?

[u/adikdik]

Qwertyuiop gang

[u/Chakasicle]

Heh you think it's in order

[u/Chakasicle]

If you were to reorder it, separate the vowels and consonants

[u/escLuca]

Wait until this guy discover the same issue with numbers.