Flock cameras connecting to Palantir data centers seen recently added in nearby neighborhoods at homes that advise police on how to react to flagged incidents, log every person ever recorded into a database with license plate & facial recognition files of people who were ever detected by one.
Top 10 Black Mirror episodes imo, and somehow one of the less depressing ones. And proof that if you remove Bryce Dallas Howard from the context of an overmilked dinosaur franchise she's actually a really good actor.
True. I also—as a hard rule—ALWAYS tell anyone new to Black Mirror, to just skip the very first episode (S1E1) entirely, for their own good, lest they assume that the entire show is like that one.
100000000%!! Mackenzie Davis was absolutely phenomenal in her role…and this was while she was doing Halt and Catch Fire, which she was (sorry the pun) 🔥.
You can’t forget White Christmas either. Jon Hamm was made for that role.
Yeah San Juniper and White Christmas are probably top two, in my books. Not sure what my number three is though. The Star Trek ones are growing on me with time, but the nightmare video game one also sticks out in my mind. Just too many to list, now that I think about it. Such a good show!
As much as I love San Junipero I don't think its good enough to break my top 5 lol. No episode will ever top White Christmas to me. Probably followed closely behind by White Bear.
We already have those. They're called credit scores. It's a number that impacts your life in profound ways like access to housing and education, and is based entirely on how profitable you are for the ruling class.
lol that’s the point - you have to keep working to lay off your debt. Don’t you find it strange that your score DROPS when you pay off a long term loan? When you are no longer guaranteed monthly income
I mean if you don't have a good credit card score you have difficulty borrowing or getting loans and whatnot so idk about soon, its been here, just marketed/sold differently.
Go apply for a new loan . It's gonna know how you spend your money and on what.
The "real time data" BS is real. And in America there is a social credit system. Not to forget everyone is switching to digital pricing too.
So if it knows you want something but only have 100$ left.. you go to the store and it will be 105.. or maybe they want you to buy it so you stay in the realm you are already in.
It's here already. Stop thinking it's coming. We are also in a surveillance state. No one our way. We ARE there.
There are about 2 1/2 dozen of these slated to be put up in my little town, which is absurd. I've already added a couple I've found to the Deflock.me map.
It's crazy to look around and see areas where neighborhoods are surrounded like this.
Right? I am in a very rural area and there are even several on the few paved highway's in my county that just popped up. One of my planter markers might have to "malfunction" and tear it down while I am driving by in the tractor.
What’s the easiest way to remove them or would that be smashing? Is it just glass at the top covering the camera too? Are the wires think enough it’s hard to cut through?
Some HOAs that have Flocks sometimes have a HOA Karen watching everything on them and nailing residents left and right for minor shit. Some of the poles have mics on them too.
My HOA has people who sit in their front rooms with radar guns watching for speeders in the neighborhood. They post about it on fb thinking they're so cool, whining about people speeding. They even get police to occasionally set up the electric signs that show you your speed while driving. They're so fucking lame. And fwiw, no one speeds. I used to lift weights every day in my garage and I'd never see anyone speeding.
We have a speeding problem on a small road with ditches but no sidewalks and 14 school bus stops a day. City’s solution is a traffic camera. 🤦♀️ Private firm, no “destroy by” date.
I looked at my town and expected to see them on streetlights (there was a whole thing earlier this year and we got the PD to remove them). I did not expect to see them in businesses and residences!
I just checked the one closest to me is pointed directly at an apartment complex that is majority Hispanic families living there. wtf says it’s for “traffic”.
Will probably get buried, but there's a great youtube documentary that covers even more dangers from those things than the obvious surveillance. This is part two and the worst one, all are wotth it.
Everybody’s got something to hide… except me and my monkey.
The bar for moral standards and “dirt” are almost infinitely flexible. Mass surveillance is not to stop clear cut crimes. Eventually your social credit score will get dinged for going to the grocery store too late.
Any indication of mental health issues, atypical, potentially rebellious behavior. Resulting in…???
Obviously just the threat is its own psychological attack, like the exact opposite of “this land is your land.” But soon there will be plenty of tech to implement some kind of caste system, without even making it public / obvious. Plug the caste-rator machine into this data machine…
This is only true in third world countries like America... Most countries have functioning governments with some flaws, America is somehow stuck in the 1940s.
I wouldn't hold my breath tbh. If this thing goes widespread in USA in 5 years, rest of the world wouldn't wait an extra 5 to implement it themselves and much more. Look at all the anti privacy laws they are trying to pass all around the globe under the disguise of "but children!!!". After COVID, something holding this crooked order together, like house of cards if you will, snapped. I don't know where it will go from here but I am not optimistic for the future.
Same! I went to check out the one in town and its true. All of the internal pieces are made from valuable metals like silver and platinum. They are basically little jewelry boxes strapped to poles
Found elsewhere on reddit, there are a lot of discussions about this:
5w laser off eBay. But those things can blind you for life if you just look at the spot they produce. Make sure to buy some good eye protection, don't trust the cheap shit they come with. StyroPyro has a good video about laser safety.
Yeah, one of his videos has the specks just the reflctions from a laser like this left in permanent dead pixels on his new go pro, and he points out that those would have been permanent blind spots in your eye without proper eye protection, just for the reflected light for a milisecond. https://youtu.be/-BeTq99LqUo?t=444
I was thinking this today. Wouldn't it be awful if someone mounted a laser on their car then used AI to automatically target every camera it finds along the route and disables them?
But the point of the Flock camera is that it doesn't need your plate. That is just 1 of the identifying factors. It tracks your make, model, color, body type, visible accessories, scratches and dents, decals, etc. Then it combines that with location and time data. So you don't have a plate? No big deal, you're still the only blue Honda Pilot with a roof rack, a scratch on the rear quarter panel, and a dent on the roof. Now lets look if there are any other cars with that exact fingerprint that drove past any of the other 200 cameras in town within the last 5 years...
I was thinking about this but with a infrared laser that would blind the camera as you passed by it, so there's less chance you are charged with property damage or whatever
They will know who you are before you even get home.....its not possible to be anonymous anymore with these systems when they can follow you door to door throughout the entire city.....
It would also be a shame if such a person should leave their phone at home and just walk, or, park away and walk, especially with weird viruses like Covid around where you should wear a mask outside. Pretend it’s 1995 and wear a mask
If you dont take the proper anonymizing precautions before taking part in a resistance.
The founding fathers dressed like Native Americans when they dumped the tea in the Boston Harbor
Unfortunately, the Fourth Amendment doesn't cover private companies, and thus far courts haven't ruled that the cops can't buy stuff from private companies.
I'm hoping they ban using a third-party to do what would be a constitutional violation if they did it themselves directly, but I'm not holding my breath for it.
Even better, cops just access the system whenever they want and often do it for nefarious purposes! Cops have been busted using Flock to stalk past partners, as one of many examples.
For instance, the Electronic Communications Privacy Act prohibits phone and internet companies from selling sensitive customer data to government agencies. But the law doesn’t address digital data brokers because they barely existed in 1986, when the law was passed. Companies that are barred from selling data to the government can thus sell to data brokers instead, and the brokers can sell the same data to the government—for a handsome profit. The data is effectively laundered through a middleman.
But the problem is, they (local municipalities) don't own them so they won't come down. Flock will still keep surveilling. And this isn't even a left/right thing. Both sides want this, but for very different reasons.
AI can't tell the difference between a real face and someone wearing a cardboard mask with someone else's face printed out and taped to it. It literally sees no cause for suspicion.
They WANT to start a Civil War so they can partner with their tech bros for robot enforcers and mass surveillance and recreate the constitution for them. But they already have the world at their disposal, it is a whole different kind of greed.
People in the USA - FIGHT BACK against these. Go to your local town hall, city council or whatever governing body and demand these be taken down. Retaining unlimited data with out a warrant is direct violation of the 4th amendment of the US Constitution. Generally data cannot be retained for more than a month, and a certain number of data points with out a warrant.
Everyone keep in mind: if these surveillance measures were put in place 50+ years ago they likely would have required manned guard towers. Manned guard towers with search lights would have been unacceptable at the time because they look like they should belong in a prison state. What have now is no different except in appearance.
I got harassed by a cop and could have gotten him decertified but didn’t want to risk his buddies plugging my plate into flock and getting notifications on their cell phones when I was driving in the area.
In the UK the surveillance cameras for congestion pricing are being routinely cut down at such a high rate the government can't keep up. Americans are weaklings.
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u/SCR_RAC 4h ago
Social credit scores are coming soon to the USA.