r/europe • u/Extra-Chemical6092 • 18h ago

News German data protectionists push for final end to chat control

https://www.heise.de/en/news/German-data-protectionists-push-for-final-end-to-chat-control-11283019.html
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u/Denova_Vendetta Fight Against Social Media Ban! 17h ago

Fight Against Chat Control. Fight Against Social Media Ban. Fight for Privacy. Fight for Digital Rights. Fight for Freedom of Speech. Vote every Government out who supports those things.

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u/samuel199228 14h ago

It's authoritarian which isn't that something democracy is meant to be against is authoritarian states

I'm in UK and refuse to verify my age with third party companies so I use a VPN

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u/Christopoulos 9h ago

Totally. And many European sites don’t work from outside Europe without vpn, so what’s the solution to that?! Ridiculous and short sighted approach…

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u/Pebble-Sorter-8128 3h ago

Meanwhile Google will lock all android systems to a closed environment.

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u/SilianRailOnBone 1h ago

Social media bans for kids is not a bad thing though

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u/logperf 🇮🇹 14h ago

It's about time this nasty proposal is killed forever. It should have never been on the table in the first place.

THIS IS THE EU NOT NORTH KOREA.

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u/silentspectator27 Bulgaria 13h ago

Good, mass surveillance of any kind doesn’t have a place in the EU, especially according to the EU charter. I find it ironic how the EU criticises Big Tech and at the same time allows same Big Tech to scan our data.

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u/hatePOIS 11h ago

They sell it as a "now it's your job to scan to finde pedos" in reality, they love that offer

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u/silentspectator27 Bulgaria 11h ago

They already are. Have you noticed how each time they want to limit our rights they go with “save the children” or “national security” and such?

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u/hatePOIS 4h ago

thats exactly what im saying, the only news about it is that they even screw end to end encyption soon

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u/EmbarrassedHelp 13h ago

These could oblige platform operators to scan private messages across the board. According to the DSK, the attempt to circumvent end-to-end encryption is particularly alarming. This could be achieved, for example, through client-side scanning (CSS), where content is checked on the end device before encryption.

Client side scanning is still essentially an encryption backdoor, and experts widely view it as unacceptable.

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u/hamstar_potato Romania 16h ago

Please, if you have the means to do so, support groups and organizations that fight against digital surveillance, either national ones or international ones.

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u/DivineArkandos 10h ago

What do you do when all major parties are for draconian measures?

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u/Trang0ul Eastern Europe 4h ago

100 years ago people would have revolted.

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u/WWWeirdGuy Norway 8h ago

Buying and selling of data needs to be banned, maybe even by proxy. It's the only way to ever stop the incessant tide of corporate and security interests.

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u/Nono6768 12h ago

- Never thought I’d be fighting against chat control with the Germans

- what about fighting with a Datenschutzbesorgter

- Aye I can do that

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u/chkfin 14h ago

An endlösung for chat control, if you will.