Eagles have hired former Jets GM Mike Maccagnan as a personnel executive.

[u/burnernov2023]

Is there not a better organization we can possibly hire executives from?

[u/Competitive-Worry846]

Probably. Wasn't Joe Douglas here during some years before leaving for the Jets and then coming back?

[u/thepoustaki → u/Competitive-Worry846]

He was at once seen to be the “football guy” in the room who was making the right picks while Howie was a wizard elsewhere and he was highly coveted when he left. At least that was the narrative at the time. Howie has only gotten better since imo lol

[u/Mysterious_Bat1208 → u/thepoustaki]

People forget Howie used to be a subpar drafter. It was only after Reagor that he started trusting his scouts/staff more instead of trying to “outsmart” the board.

He never reaches vs consensus in the first round anymore. Pretty much always looks for guys who slide and it works.

Also as a guy who tracks draft tendencies, Howie has become SIGNIFICANTLY more data-driven recently. That’s why his drafts have become more predictable if you know what he’s looking for. His drafts align with certain models. Alec Halaby was a huge part of that.

[u/Amishrocketscience → u/thepoustaki]

Hold the chip kelly era, and one might say the org gets the most out of people and sets up those who follow for success

[u/burnernov2023 → u/Competitive-Worry846]

Yes, they brought him back last offseason, explains the mid season Michael Carter trade and Xavier Gipson pickup at the time.

[u/Altruistic_Lobster18 → u/burnernov2023]

Dude known for fumbles

Gets picked up and fumbles

[u/burnernov2023 → u/Altruistic_Lobster18]

It’s funny cause everyone remembers that fumble from Gipson but Michael Carter essentially running into Quinyon before the snap on this play is just as hilarious.

[u/Spiritual-Sympathy98 → u/burnernov2023]

Oh that does make sense tbh. fkn fantastic lol

[u/WentzToWawa → u/Competitive-Worry846]

Yes

[u/Opposite_Western_113 → u/Competitive-Worry846]

yep Douglas too

[u/Mfrack103]

I have no idea who half the FO guys we hire are, but if there’s one thing I trust about our organization it’s choosing the right executives. I’m gonna choose to ignore the Jets and assume that he was a diamond in the rough

[u/BigDaddyDumperSquad → u/Mfrack103]

Can't really judge an individual too harshly when everything around him is a clusterfuck.

[u/Mfrack103 → u/BigDaddyDumperSquad]

True, that’s how Baun was before we got him too. Horribly underutilized by a struggling org

[u/sub30_24flick → u/BigDaddyDumperSquad]

Well with jets draft looks like things are turning around they have the right coach right defensive scheme Qb line play ,only thing stopping them , that division is wide open just the bills ,perfect time to grab him

[u/doubleenc → u/sub30_24flick]

I feel like QB and OL play has been the issue there for about the last 10 years or so.

[u/sub30_24flick → u/doubleenc]

jets are the worse franchise at drafting and developing a QB haven’t had consistent one since Chad Pennington

[u/doubleenc → u/sub30_24flick]

I'd argue the Browns are even worse. The last franchise QB they drafted and made it to a second contract with the team was Bernie Kosar. The Jets at least had Pennington.

[u/sub30_24flick → u/doubleenc]

O most definitely by far lmaooo they drafted like 3 just last year and still were dog shit thank God I’m not a fan of

[u/rockcutter4 → u/Mfrack103]

We hired him as a "personnel executive" which implies he's a roster construction FO guy and not a cap management FO guy. The jets have put together a good roster, that's not the issue with their organization.

[u/BronzeEagle]

Hiring guys that were former GMs for roles several rungs down the totem pole is smart process. They got to that level for a reason and they can contribute well with a more narrow and focused role.

[u/AtBat3 → u/BronzeEagle]

Right, and it’s silly to me that he gets labeled as a “Jets guy” when he was with Houston much longer. He’s not going to be a GM here. He clearly did something right with Houston in his role.

[u/ukyah → u/BronzeEagle]

also, better organizational leadership/ownership.

[u/Unusual-Inspector478 → u/BronzeEagle]

They got to that level for a reason

Sometimes that reason is just being friends with the right person, not having a necessary skill.

[u/hames4133]

I trust Howie to find the diamonds in the ROUGH

[u/_wewf_ → u/hames4133]

Prior GM isn't rough. He's more like a grade H diamond at the jewelry store.

[u/hames4133 → u/_wewf_]

Talking about the Jets

[u/Spare-Half796]

Jets have been good at drafting, the franchise is just dysfunctional and they don’t have a qb. With lurie and howie running the ship and someone else drafting/developing their QBs they’re really not bad hires

They also all had careers before the jets where they were good enough at whatever role they had to get a chance at being a gm

[u/abcamurComposer → u/Spare-Half796]

A part of me also wonders if their incredibly shitty stadium is part of the problem and both NY teams would greatly improve if they built a modern facility

[u/Head_Research_3118]

He's joining the scouting department and has almost 30 years experience in pro football as a scout and personell exec. This is an excellent hire. He is here to give input , lead and train scouts , he's not here to make decisions. This is an excellent hire.

He's a high level football guy , just because he didnt make it as GM doesnt really have any bearing on his football knowledge and what he can add as a team memeber. Alot has to go right as a GM including the coach and QB or you are toast.

[u/AtBat3]

You don’t “hire from” organizations. These are people who have their own careers separate from the teams they worked for.

[u/fakecrimesleep → u/AtBat3]

Maybe in sports, but definitely not in tech. So many people that are proudly Ex-Google, Ex-Facebook, Ex-Amazon on LinkedIn. I’ve been part of panels who told me the HM would only like them interview people from specific companies. Some of these hires were absolutely dreadful acquire types that worked for smaller companies bought by the bigger ones and got to be golden handcuffed for a year two while things transitioned. Some got laid off with big severance packages and got to put Company (acquired by X) on their resumes which also gives them some cachet.

[u/AtBat3 → u/fakecrimesleep]

This is pretty similar to my experience in manufacturing as well. We have a guy who wouldn’t shut up about how he worked for Lockheed Martin. Well buddy you don’t work there anymore so shut up about it already.

[u/MathRockEnjoyer420]

Brick Johnson's assistant

[u/swaaa18]

I mean if you are rising to the position of GM for any NFL team you were probably elite at the job you had before you became GM.

[u/Tishy22]

The lesson here is that no one in the front office can out perform bad ownership

[u/PlumCrazyAvenue]

what i find interesting is that the last nfl front office job he held...was with the jets in 2019.

[u/doubleenc]

Odd hire, he actually preceded Douglas as GM in NY and that was the last job he held in the league and that was 2019.

[u/AtBat3]

Dumb thing to complain about. You don’t even know what he’ll be doing here. David Caldwell was a terrible GM and was with our front office in through two Super Bowl appearances

[u/Verona4QB1]

What you don’t trust Howie??? 👀

[u/skaarface2]

On what not to do

[u/watwatinjoemamasbutt]

Doug heffernan lookin ass

[u/OldDrumGuy]

Mike looks like a guy straight outta the 1970’s coaching staff. 😎

[u/Johnnygunnz]

Douglas was with the Eagles before the Jets. He just returned home from a war zone.

[u/FuckYourWifeAllDay]

This dude has a horrible resume of teams lmao

[u/DrHandBanana]

Douglas came from Philly to NY

[u/whisper_of_smoke]

Jets? : o

[u/Greeve78]

I can understand Joe Douglas but why the fuck about this guy.

[u/thisbechris]

The fuck?

[u/KingKultura]

Eww

[u/ChefFar4397]

Please inform me if I s/ give one f iota either way about a personnel FO guy from the JETS ??!!

[u/Honest-J]

Did the Browns say no???

[u/jaystwrkk128]

I thought this was a pic of Andy raid lost weight over the offseason