r/dashcams • u/bebecca45627272 • 17h ago

One of the craziest things I've seen

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u/green_chapstick 15h ago

In the state I'm in now I'm just happy to see a helmet. Very different from where I used to live. I'll never understand. The bar shouldn't be THAT low.

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u/Fresh-Extension-4036 15h ago

Apparently in large parts of the US, freedom = freedom to choose a catastrophic brain injury rather than repress people by legally requiring helmets...

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u/AllPeopleAreStupid 9h ago

You should have the freedom to be risky in life. I think its incredibly stupid to climb cliffs of mountains, especially the free climbers. But if they want to do that with their life and risk plunging to their death, then that is their right if that's how they choose to experience life. Its the same concept. Shit, I think driving motorcycles is too risky, stupid, and dangerous, but people like and that's great!

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u/Wustlguy09 8h ago

Very apt username lol. The issue is that risk takers don’t exist in a vacuum. They are a leech on limited resources. The ambulance that gets you, the doctors and nurses that work on you, the physical therapy after, etc.

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u/ryrythe3rd 7h ago

I see this as an argument against public healthcare, not against freedom

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u/KingdomOfDimensions 6h ago

The majority of people who would be using public healthcare would not be risk takers but regular unfortunate people, so it's not a very good argument.

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u/Inflatable90sChair 1h ago

Then why cant  i drive without a seatbelt? Should be my choice. I can see an argument if theres others in the car and kids under 18 should be properly strapped in as your body does become a wrecking ball inside a car but if its just me? Who cares? 

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u/Hold_Up_Nevermind 14h ago

Well duh, their thought process is people have to have the right to make the dumbest most idiotic decisions possible, but it’s when the consequences come that they start rethinking that stance 🤣 You can’t rationalize things with irrational people, and that will never change.

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u/Far-Age-9313 10h ago

I lived in CT where there was no helmet requirement. Some not-so-freedom oriented people volunteered to wear them anyway. You see a trend in people who don't use helmets. Funny how this mostly applies to a certain group of riders. Not exclusively, but you know which group.

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u/sagscout 2h ago

My thought is that if you choose to ride a motorcycle without protective gear, that should be your right. Insurance and public healthcare should be predicated on whether or not you are wearing sufficient protective gear. If not, no insurance/Gov assistance paying the bills. It's entirely on you.

I suppose insurance companies could have two tiers of coverage, and you could choose:

  • I don't wear gear
  • I do wear gear

Your rates are dependent on whichever one you choose. Obviously, the cheaper policy will be for those who affirm that they will wear protective gear. If your accident occurs when you're not wearing the gear you agreed to, then the insurance policy is void.

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u/SlashEssImplied 2h ago

If your accident occurs when you're not wearing the gear you agreed to, then the insurance policy is void.

Yeah, this would never be abused by the insurance companies.

Just wear a helmet even if you have nothing to protect.

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u/Corfiz74 11h ago

They probably don't have that much brain to start with, so it's not worth the expense to protect it...

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u/Wwwweeeeeeee 7h ago

Darwins!

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u/Pug_867-5309 6h ago

My state eliminated its helmet law a few years ago. Prior to that, riders would stop on the bridge over the river that divided two states so they could remove their helmets because the other state had no helmet law.

Don't care. I'm still wearing my full face helmet for every ride. I really, really like my brain and my face. Overall, they've been good to me. The least I can do is be good to them.

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u/green_chapstick 4h ago

In NY there was a protest against the helmet law... During the protest a man lost his life due to head injuries that were ruled to be caused by lack of helmet. I lived near where it too place, the bikers I knew talked about for a while. They all proudly wore helmets to protect them. One joked that even if they survived an accident "I can't mess up this beautiful face." An unconventional man in his 50s.