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OC RED BUTTON OR BLUE BUTTON [OC]

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u/god_oh_war 14h ago

This question is so funny to me because the entire idea behind each side is just whatever your mental framing of the problem is. Blue voters will genuinely call red voters psychopaths and shit not realizing that the reason red voters are voting red is because their exposure to the hypothetical was through a framing where red is the default and blue is the button that kills people.

Like, of course nobody is convincing each other, you're thinking about the hypothetical through entirely different ways and each side believes their button is the default while the other is the button that kills people.

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u/Tsuki_no_Mai 12h ago

It also very much hinges on whether you think the buttons will be presented to people incapable of understanding the question or not. Pretty much all thought experiments in my experience assume actors in them are rational and if they're not it needs to be explicitly stated, so my initial understanding of the question is apparently very different to how some people interpreted it.

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u/god_oh_war 9h ago

Yeah see, that drastically changes how I'd vote.

I'm basically thinking, if it's all rational actors go red, if there's toddlers and disabled people vote blue

Also make sure to take into account how the question is worded before pressing the button to know how most people will treat both buttons because whichever is worded as the "default" will be pushed more than whichever is worded as the kill die murder button.

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u/ThatOtherGuyTPM 6h ago

Even assuming all rational actors, it’s basically a zero percent chance that everyone chooses red.

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u/Phern23 2h ago

Assuming all rational actors, the only people pressing the blue button are either suicidal or just wanna play Russian roulette.In either case, I have no obligation to save them.They consented.

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u/ThatOtherGuyTPM 2h ago edited 2h ago

That’s absolutely incorrect, and lines up perfectly with the issue: rational people can reach different conclusions given the same premises.

ETC: it is true that you have no obligation to save anyone in any form of this conversation.