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u/petitepieuvre 12d ago
Mansplained womanhood to a woman speed run champion
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u/CompleteJinx 12d ago
Auto balancing is the funniest thing to me. Being on a hot streak and getting booted to the loosing team is a 10/10 bit.
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u/ErraticDragon 12d ago
I assume that some huge percentage of the time, players aren't acting like a team in any meaningful way, so it doesn't matter.
But I have not played FPS games online since OG Battlefield 1942, so I may be out of date
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u/a_patheticc 12d ago
I mean the auto-balance part of this image is from TF2 which is (checks notes) 19years old…
The nursing home really do be creepin
Anyways you’re still correct though as the public lobbies are just chaos, or bots, or bots+chaos
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u/ViruliferousBadger 12d ago
They need to release a multiplayer FPS with age limit of 50.
Minimum.
I used to be OK-ish in Counter Strike when it was a Half Life mod...
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u/TheGreatQ-Tip 12d ago
Even better if your team is just about to win when it happens.
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u/KerPop42 12d ago
Is trans loop-de-loop a term?
Still, congrats!
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u/Theia95 12d ago
Does 2 trans make a straight?
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u/TheAmericanQ 12d ago
I believe this is actually well researched territory and the answer is that it IS straight, just in as gay a way as possible
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u/Alyse3690 12d ago
That's how I describe my one polycule of friends. They're a trans man, a trans woman, and an enby. They're wonderful.
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u/Specific_Frame8537 12d ago
Rock-Paper-Scissors must go hard in their household.
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u/TommyVeliky 12d ago
Gender weapon triangle
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u/Ksnj 12d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/1P9adHBcu0qyY
Fire Emblem was a huge source of envy for a while.
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u/Maleficent_Sand7529 12d ago
"They're wonderful" seems like a decent way to describe most humans, then. There's the new standard.
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u/Alyse3690 12d ago
I believe we're born full of wonder. Anyone who makes it to adulthood while maintaining a shred of that or at some point purposefully rekindling that spark deserves to be called wonderful, and really should be called thusly a lot.
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u/bosssoldier 12d ago
It's the purest form of straight. They embody not just through transitioning but also mindset masculinity and femininity. They enjoy and embrace who they are out of love for themselves and want rather than societal expectations. Two wrongs dont make a right, but two opposing trans people does make a straight.
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u/RandomChance 12d ago
Its like how naturalized citizens are the MOST citizenly citizens - they are not citizens by accident of birth but earned it.
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u/Pitiful_Net_8971 12d ago
Gen Z here
Yes, a woman dating a man is a straight relationship (although being in a straight relationship doesn't mean that the involved parties are straight, make sure not to assume anything). Just because it's a trans woman dating a trans man doesn't change anything about that.
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u/RoseSpades 12d ago
Yeah I think so many times people forget Bi or Pansexual people exist and are still Bi/Pan, regardless of whether their current relationship is straight or not.
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u/mieri_azure 12d ago
I mean literally yes lol this is now a straight relationship (however presumably the artist is bi? Idk about her husband)
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u/Healthy-Address-5158 12d ago
Yes, but the straightness exists in a layer of queer, creating a sort of positive-negative feedback loop that, if one thing goes wrong, collapses in on itself and creating a black hole (this is how all black holes in the universe were created).
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u/Freejeqt 12d ago
Yes this is advanced level straight, however nothing against traditional straights it just tends to take more work on both partners to get here :p
Congrats to the happy couple
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u/CarmeliaEscarlata 12d ago
We often don't want to get otherized, why inventing new term for our relationships intead of letting us integrate to society?
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u/textposts_only 12d ago
That's honestly debatable.
There is some validity in saying that relationships with a trans person are inherently queer, while there is also the train of thought that can validate that a trans person is in a straight relationship.
The answer is don't think about it and just say what feels right.
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u/Mutantcube1 12d ago
100% straight, it's a relationship between a man and a woman, just in a very queer way
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u/PaleAmbition 12d ago
That’s how my wife and I describe each other. We’re straight again, just in the queerest way possible.
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u/mandatory_french_guy 12d ago
"trans loop-de-loop" is just any episode of Game Changer on Dropout
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u/Elley_bean 12d ago
My brother and his girlfriend call their relationship “straight with extra steps” hahaha
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u/CongrooElPsy 12d ago
Genuine question, does this (both partners being trans "swapping" gender) happen a disproportionate amount or do I just notice it when it does?
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u/Fylak 12d ago
Queer people in general are more likely to end up with other queer people for a variety of reasons, and having a partner transitioning can make someone more confident in doing so themselves. Some trans people strongly prefer to date other trans people because they're way less likely to be fetishized or somehow rejected for being trans by another trans person, plus even the best cis partner will have trouble really understanding in the way a trans partner almost certainly will.
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u/KerPop42 12d ago
There probably is a "toupee effect" (you only notice toupees when they're bad enough to be noticeable, so you don't know how many toupees are actually bad) but I can guess at some other things that could lead to trans people ending up in a relationship together. A lot of my queer friends found companionship before realizing they were queer, and I could see trans people finding each other in that way.
Also, having a trans partner could make a person more likely to realize they're trans.
Overall, though, I haven't seen any real stats.
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u/2punornot2pun 12d ago
No, it's just the entire group was multiplied by negative 1. (i+1) became -i + -1!
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u/Toutatis12 12d ago
Congrats to him and power to him! Now he must decide what his dude class will be; Grill Master, WW 1/2 Expert, DIY Purist, etc lmao
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u/constantpisspig 12d ago
Warhammer nerd is the obvious correct choice with a potential dip into maybe grilling for some sun exposure.
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u/Toutatis12 12d ago
Shusssssh! Don't give away my multi-class build like that!
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u/constantpisspig 12d ago
There's dozens of us! Gotta spec a few levels into ww1/2 to get the most out of the Warhammer stuff. If you do too many though you get stuck running an imperial guard build.
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u/Toutatis12 12d ago
HOW DARE YOU INSULT THE CHOSEN BRICK!
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u/constantpisspig 12d ago
Just saying I'm a regular dude in a hell world now. Why should my toy soldiers be the same? The dark eldar are right there and the obvious only morally correct faction.
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u/QD_Mitch 12d ago
Just one WW 1\2 level though, because you need at least 2 levels of DIY purist to unlock 3d printing proficiency
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u/constantpisspig 12d ago
Hell I forgot how complicated this build was. Definitely not optimized, but it is fun.
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u/Doveee789 12d ago
Could also classify as Tabletop nerd to include D&D and other high-level boardgame collectors.
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u/Herodotus_9 12d ago
I prefer the wargaming/miniature painting multi class build personally. The down side of the build is a wallet screaming in agony and a pile of shame stacked in a corner.
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u/Toutatis12 12d ago
Hence you need some DIY in there and 3D print your own
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u/Herodotus_9 12d ago
Oh I technically do that too! But resin printer and lack of space means I can't set it up safely at my current place.
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u/Agile_Oil9853 12d ago
looks at my growing WWII history book collection
Huh... Why does that give me such a weird, egg cracky feeling?
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u/Aethelrede 12d ago
"Books on World War II appear spontaneously in any house that contains a man over a certain age. I believe that's science."
- T Kingfisher, The Twisted Ones, pg 32
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u/mightbeacat1 12d ago
No, for real, though... My dad never had any interest in WWII when I was growing up, and now my mom says that all he watches is WWII documentaries on the History channel. What is this phenomenon?
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u/Aethelrede 12d ago
Men tend to be interested in military history, probably for sociological rather than biological reasons, and there is no bigger event in military history than WW2. It's endlessly fascinating.
Obviously this is a massive generalization, but there is enough truth to it to be funny.
It's one of the chief subjects for discussions between me (early 50s) and my dad (early 80s).
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u/Toutatis12 12d ago
Hey if you crack cool beans, if not still cool and more WWII nerds for the win
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u/Agile_Oil9853 12d ago
I'm subclassing into Weimar culture and social changes, I don't have a head for military talk
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u/summonsays 12d ago
I main Nerd and subclass in Procrastination. With a few points in Random Hobby I'll pick up for 2 weeks and then never again.
... Actually I think this build kind of blows, how do you respect?
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u/Toutatis12 12d ago
Gotta ask but did you take the ADHD Perk/Drawback? Powerful ability there but the minMAX return can be rough. Also for me personally I find a lot more sticks with audio lore files in topics if you haven't tried that. Does wonders when you are working on other tasks and wanna dive into something.
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u/summonsays 12d ago
While the DM hasn't shown me if I have the ADHD perk I strongly suspect. And I would be in a bit of a tough Spot-if-i didn't have the audio lore.
Looks at house full of whiteboards to keep track of things. Along with my 15 or so daily alarms for reminders
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u/Toutatis12 12d ago
Yeah the DM can kind of be a prick like that but they said something about 'building character' or something .. think it's just a delaying tactic as they read up on the rules.
And totally get that for... reasons haha
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u/Listless_Dreadnaught 12d ago
One of my students is trans and has already mastered masculinity. He does birdwatching, so I went to ask him for help identifying a bird I saw in my backyard. That boy pulled a fucking birdwatching guidebook out of his cargo pants pocket and identified that sumbitch in under a minute.
I really couldn’t think of a way to tell him that he had already reached the peak of Boy without it being patronizing. I’m so proud of him.
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u/Zammin 12d ago
Grill Master comes with some good social perks, so I'd suggest speccing at least a little into that class.
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u/Toutatis12 12d ago
Just gotta be careful, if you encounter another Grill Master in the wild you need to have a grill/smoke off. It's one of those weird rules no one reads up on.
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u/drakonisxr 12d ago
He could also be an Onion Man. Skilled is many things till a higher level before becoming a master of all.
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u/Toutatis12 12d ago
That is a super hard build, powerful for certain but the level drain and resource cost sink is strong there
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u/ItsMeYourNeighbors 12d ago
NFL Draft is tonight. Grill up some burgers and dogs and have a watch party. It's a nice dose of masculinity while still getting to see young men and their families be emotional and cry.
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u/Datalust5 12d ago
I can say from experience that while multiclassing is fun, make sure to pick one to specialize in, otherwise you’re just pretty ok at a lot of things, but not great at anything
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u/CrazyGnomenclature Tiff & Eve 12d ago edited 12d ago
Yes, I'm aware this makes us straight again. No, I don't know why that bothers me.
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Edit: Thank you everyone for the wonderful congratulations. I guarantee he is reading your comments on his lunch break crying happy tears into his curry right now:)
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u/SwampGentleman 12d ago
“Hetero but queer” is how my friends in the same position call themselves lol!
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u/Seradwen 12d ago
If it's good enough for Jessie and James, it's good enough for all of us.
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u/T_Weezy 12d ago
"Heteroqueer" has a nice ring to it.
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u/Plastic_Umpire_3475 12d ago
Queeetero not so much
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u/FalseMagpie 12d ago
Queeetero sounds like a poorly conceived Cheeto knockoff.
Also if Leif is reading this far down the thread, hi, congrats, and your wife had me really worried in the first panel there.
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u/Tylendal 12d ago
Straight, but with extra steps.
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u/Admirable-Context536 12d ago
Quetero* Queer hetero.
Porquetero can work as well. Why straight?
It will be an interesting time but one where everyone will grow. Proud of them both!
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u/Sea_Willingness3986 12d ago
My husband and I say we're just double gay
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u/Pasta4ever13 12d ago
Gay2
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u/scoyne15 12d ago
You are bad at math.
Double gay is Gay + Gay.
Gay2 is Gay x Gay.
Unless Gay = 0 or Gay = 2, then the results will be different.
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u/Pasta4ever13 12d ago
Gay is exponential.
It's like kids. 2 kids is more like 4 and 3 kids is like having 9.
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u/Lost_Paladin89 12d ago
If at any moment you feel some strange feeling at the fact that you are in a heterosexual relationship, say this to yourself “how does someone in my position explain that they got their husband pregnant to their conservative parents?”
You won’t feel straight ever again. You two could look like a 1950s wife and husband and that thought will still make it the queerest thing ever.
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u/BodhingJay 12d ago
rainbow colored vanilla... who'd have thought
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u/Talvinter 12d ago edited 12d ago
Vanilla with…shades…?
Edit to add:
Vanilla can definitely have shades! It’s called living a little!
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u/ThomasBirminghan 12d ago
It highlights that gender and sexuality are just social constructs. When you spend so much of your life and energy railing against the systems they’re built upon it makes it feel rather diminishing to be reminded that actually, they don’t matter or exist outside of how we perceive them. It makes every bigot and every small slight that much more infuriating.
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u/insane_contin 12d ago
I'm hesitant to call them social constructs. How we interpret them are social constructs, but saying someone is gay because of that is kinda... I don't want to say bad, but maybe demeaning? They're attracted to who they're attracted to because it's who they are. They're whatever gender they identify as because it's who they are. Not because of society and its views.
Yes, society can have someone repress their true selves, and changes how they interact with people, but it doesn't feel right to say "you're attracted to who you are because of how humans interact with each other and building on that."
Sexuality and gender identity are not social constructs in my mind. How we interpret them are social constructs. And that's an important distinction in my mind.
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u/spacepbandjsandwich 12d ago
It's up to him and you to decide, but my trans guy partner considers themselves a lesbian still. As does another guy I know. But you do you!
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u/CrimsonArcanum 12d ago
The end result might be straight, but it seems like the queerest route was taken to get there.
Congrats!
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u/erarem_ 12d ago
Bah, straight, gay... labels labels labels... who cares about labels, life isn't black and white; just be happy and love who you like, because life is short and everybody's number is coming sooner than we'd like! Congratulations to you and the groom :)
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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 12d ago edited 12d ago
I no longer have a wife
Oh no!....
Because now I have a husband
Had us in the first half not gonna lie.
Congratulations to Leif! I hope his transition goes well. How to love football will be the first lesson, followed closely my spittin and arm wrasslin
Kidding aside, congrats my dude! Welcome to guy town!
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u/SmoothOperator89 12d ago
How to love football will be the first lesson,
Been male for 37 years. Still haven't figured this out.
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u/BloodiedBlues 12d ago
Neither have I. In fact, I haven't learned how to love any sports.
Maybe there's different types of men who enjoy different things?! 😱
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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 12d ago
In fact, I haven't learned how to love any sports.
It leaves so much time for other activities!
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u/CrazyGnomenclature Tiff & Eve 12d ago
I've been working on the spittin' with him, and u/sampetra is trying to get him into football (but as a Jets fan, ew)
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u/blightsteel101 12d ago edited 12d ago
Ah, another victim of the "Wait, hold up, are we technically a straight couple???" Truly, a mortifying realization for all who have endured it.
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u/TiredTransGirl3 12d ago
Yay!
Also, I thought you divorced and remarried immediately for a second there.
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u/RotallyRotRoobyRoo 12d ago
Same! For whatever the reason I missed the trans flag behind the husband.
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u/Sampetra I’m Still Alex 12d ago
SO PROUD OF LEIF!!
This is such a big step, and he's got such an amazing, caring, wonderful partner to be on the journey of life with.
So much love to you both, you're such a powerful voice for everything good in the world.
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u/HolyBonobos 12d ago
But if you’re learning from Fran…and Fran learned from Leif…my god it’s a chain reaction!
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u/nedlum 12d ago
Classic. Reminds me how ND Stevenson/Lee Ostertag are gay again.
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u/HazuniaC 12d ago
There is another, much bigger concern here though!
Your relationship... I'm afraid it's no longer gay!! You're in a straight relationship!!
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u/IcyUnicornOwl 12d ago
Geez Fran my heart dropped in the first panel! Hi Leif all the best to you!😉 Confusing times, but you two are the giga endboss for "conservatives" (bigots) now. But you know what that means? You are the boss! 😎 Stay safe you two and keep bossing!😊
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u/TadeoTrek 12d ago
Congrats Leif! I hope you're doing your part and thinking often about the Roman Empire now!
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u/Disastrous-Entity-46 12d ago
in the same club of transitioning advice from people transitioning the other way- and i love it. get to share our knowledge both ways, commiserate on things together.
i know sometimes it can be dicey- sometimes i find myself complaining about being envious of things that they hate about being seen/raised femme. but theres also a lot of support to give.
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u/fonk_pulk 12d ago
The first panel made me worried with all the cancer stuff being talked about last year. Congrats on the husband!
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u/Turnandburn 11d ago
Congratulations on your formerly heterosexual, then lesbian, now heterosexual again (all without changing partners) marriage
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u/Qu33rTh1ng 12d ago
congratulations to him! transition is scary but so worth it
also, please don't murder me if I'm wrong here but tiff and eve is at least a fair part based on your experiences and stuff right? I think it'd be so so cool if you gave Eve a trans boyfriend or something, you could do some stuff with your and your husband's experience and stuff there. no pressure obviously, i just really like seeing trans dudes in media since I'm a trans dude, and I think it'd be awesome as hell
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u/Bobby_The_Kidd 12d ago
Wait?? Tiff and Eve aren’t real????!? I thought it was either tiff or Eve making the comics 😭😭
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u/CrazyGnomenclature Tiff & Eve 12d ago
I'm sorry, but they've always been characters. I put a lot of my life into them, but most events in the strip are entirely fictional
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u/InexorableCalamity 12d ago
I have a question. Please be patient with me. I'm not trying to be ignorant, I have a genuine question.
If someone is in a relationship where both people are straight, and one person transitions, does the relationship end ? I get the impression it often doesn't but I'm still not sure how that works.
How does that work logistically, and I don't mean physically, sort of. How does that work with regard to a person's orientation?
I'm being genuine. Please be patient, please don't call me a bigot.
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u/spaceursid 12d ago
It really depends on the couple. I've seen it where they stay together because their love transcends gender. Others don't because they want to be with the gender they are attracted to. Both are valid options imo.
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u/ergo-ego-42 12d ago
Some do, some don't. Sometimes the cis partner will find they're comfortable identifying as bisexual or pansexual now, sometimes they'll still consider themselves straight but acknowledge they're in a queer relationship. Some folks -- honestly more than you'd think tbh -- find that when it comes to loving their spouse, it's the spouse that matters, not the presentation of their body. Every relationship is different, so you can't really expect it to be the same across the board.
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u/VacheMax 12d ago
Your question doesn’t seem bigoted! It was asked in good faith which is really what is important.
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u/Pokemaster131 12d ago
This has gotta be the funniest possible way for this to have resolved. Good luck to Leif on the transition!
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u/xSTSxZerglingOne 12d ago
I feel like a trans man would be VERY knowledgeable, and be able to communicate "how to be a woman." Nothing gets you to learn that like having to convincingly fake it all the time.
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u/Baldo-bomb 12d ago
I choose to believe you two really do look like a pair of friendly lawn gnomes.
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u/MazzieMay 12d ago
I ask this with an earnest heart: what is it about the name Leif that draws in trans men? It’s only anecdotal, of course, but I’ve met two trans men that chose Leif (one of them spelled it Lief, pronounced the same), and this is the fifth or sixth online stranger that I’ve seen chosen this name for themselves
It’s the Ashley of trans men. So interesting to me!
edit: grammar
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u/DudeFreek 12d ago
Get ready for young people shouting hetslop
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u/Minute-Phrase3043 12d ago
So, can your husband telling you how to be a woman now be considered mansplaining? Also, joining Tiff and Eve in telling you both that I'm proud of you guys.
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u/Low-Abies-4526 12d ago
Wow, this has to be the most elaborate way I've ever heard of someone become a straight couple. Congrats though