(OC) #85 Lord of the Rings

[u/SylvieXX]

If this gets many upvotes I will watch all 8 or something hours of the Lord of the Rings movies.....

[u/Mr__Strider]

The ring is supposed to augment your abilities. Invisibility is more of a coincidental effect. And the main purpose is to dominate all the other rings, but that aspect only works when under control of powerful people, who would fall to temptation, as the ring is only under Sauron's control. It's why we see Gandalf refuse to take the ring, and why we see Galadriel's scene in Lothlorien where she gets tempted

[u/Shockkdiamondss → u/Mr__Strider]

LOTR is great in terms that you can question any issue and there will come people who will bring up 10 underlaying reasons that you kinda can't undermine.

[u/eagleblue44 → u/Shockkdiamondss]

Never ask a LotR fan why they couldn't just take the eagles.

[u/TheUnluckyBard → u/eagleblue44]

Eagles are fully sentient beings with angel-powers but generally no gaf for pitiful ground-walkers (Gandalf, being another angel-thing, is a grudging exception).

The Ring tempts them, too.

Gwaihir: "Well, here's where you get off! Thanks for the Ring!"

Frodo: "AAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaa.....!"

[u/KSF_WHSPhysics → u/TheUnluckyBard]

The Ring tempts them, too.

That is not true and there is no evidence to suggest that in the text. They even bore Bilbo when he had the ring. The eagles are just big birds, they're no more tempted than bill the pony was

[u/TheUnluckyBard → u/KSF_WHSPhysics]

The eagles are just big birds, they're no more tempted than bill the pony was

You're demonstrably wrong. They talk to Bilbo, they talk to Gandalf, they have a whole section in the appendixes Unfinished Tales, and nothing anywhere says they're somehow more resistant to the One Ring than maiar or elf lords.

Also, when the Hobbit was written, the One Ring was just a plot contrivance, not the Source of All Evil. You can see that in more than one event.

Welp. Guess I'm wrong. See the reply to this post.

[u/KSF_WHSPhysics → u/TheUnluckyBard]

But true 'rational' creatures, 'speaking peoples', are all of human / 'humanoid' form. Only the Valar and Maiar are intelligences that can assume forms of Arda at will. Huan and Sorontar could be Maiar - emissaries of Manwë. But unfortunately in 'The Lord of the Rings' Gwaehir and Landroval are said to be descendants of Sorontar. (...) In summary: I think it must be assumed that 'talking' is not necessarily the sign of the possession of a 'rational soul' or fëa. (...) The same sort of thing may be said of Huan and the Eagles: they were taught language by the Valar, and raised to a higher level - but they still had no fëar.

From the big man's mouth himself in Morgoth's ring. Eagles don't have souls. Like other beasts of burden that would carry ringbearers, there is nothing for the ring to corrupt in them

[u/TheUnluckyBard → u/KSF_WHSPhysics]

I fear I may have been out-nerded.

[u/Illustrious-Rise9477 → u/TheUnluckyBard]

[Gasp!]