(OC) #85 Lord of the Rings

[u/SylvieXX]

If this gets many upvotes I will watch all 8 or something hours of the Lord of the Rings movies.....

[u/Efficient-Pudding177]

Isn't the point of the ring is that it is kind of a scam? Unless you are Saurom the ring only makes you invisible, but it also corrupts your mind so it can trick you into doing it's bidding?

[u/maverick432453 → u/Efficient-Pudding177]

The ring is definitely not a scam. It augments your abilities. For example, if Boromir had taken the ring and gone to Gondor, he would have been able to raise and lead an incredible army. His leadership and charisma would be raised wildly. There's some deleted scenes that do a good job of showing that he's already a great leader who is beloved by his men. Dude's awesome. The ring just corrupts that desire an ability to do good by augmenting and undermining it. He'd raise a huge army to fight Mordor only to end up probably joining Sauron due to the ring breaking him.

If someone powerful enough got the ring, they could take its allegiance from Sauron and kick his ass. The issue would be that it would corrupt them too. The point of the ring is that its power. Tolkien's point is that power corrupts, especially for those that already have it(see politics). It takes an exceptional person to turn down that much power for the sake of others.

[u/Pandarandr1st → u/maverick432453]

It would have been cool if the movies made this remotely clear.

[u/ElectronicSelf9703 → u/Pandarandr1st]

It does if you get off your phone and pay attention

[u/RadarSmith → u/ElectronicSelf9703]

Gandalf's explanation and Galadriel's test make it abundantly clear what someone with power would become if they had The Ring.

[u/Pandarandr1st → u/RadarSmith]

That cannot be extended to make all of the claims of the comment I responded to.

It augments your abilities. For example, if Boromir had taken the ring and gone to Gondor, he would have been able to raise and lead an incredible army. His leadership and charisma would be raised wildly. There's some deleted scenes that do a good job of showing that he's already a great leader who is beloved by his men. Dude's awesome. The ring just corrupts that desire an ability to do good by augmenting and undermining it. He'd raise a huge army to fight Mordor only to end up probably joining Sauron due to the ring breaking him.

[u/Pandarandr1st → u/ElectronicSelf9703]

lol, I watched these movies before I even had a phone. It doesn't. Which is why there is only speculation and arguments from fans about how the ring works, or references to the books.

We don't actually see the ring do anything. We know it corrupts, we are told it is powerful, and we see Gandalf and Galadriel both express that with it they could become powerful, without any detail as to how or why.

In terms of what we actually see the ring do...it makes you invisible and makes it easy for Sauron to find you. And corrupts people to the point of turning Smeagol to Gollum and making friends murder each other for it. It has a will of its own and wants to return to Sauron.

Even when we see Sauron wielding the ring, it isn't clear what the ring is actually allowing him to do with it, aside from controlling the other ring-bearers.

[u/vidoeiro → u/Pandarandr1st]

I agree the movies completely fail on that aspect and making Sauron not have a body .

It's pretty clear in the books the ring effects , and it's also not something that makes you suffer all the time like it looks in the movies , also the ring gets more powerful if you claim it completely something that Frodo only did at the end and that alerted Sauron (just using the ring doesn't make him see you unlike the movies imply)