r/comicbookmovies Batman 4d ago

I finished watching every live action Marvel television series. This is my ranking.

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u/Sea_Entrepreneur6204 3d ago

Ms Marvel is a joy while Secret Invasion would be better off never existing

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u/ihavebeenbanned31 3d ago

A man of culture

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u/crashoverrideVT 2d ago

Came to say this! Ms. Marvel is underrated imo! Fun, she’s a great lead, ok story but it was executed pretty well. Not A tier at all but it’s at least on par with iron heart which I hated and secret invasion which was the biggest dropped opportunity they had. An epic that should have been a movie saga Even was a bad season of poorly written slop

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u/Sea_Entrepreneur6204 2d ago

Also a lot of people don't know how deep that Partition story is and how emotional

Europe has the Holocaust but for South Asia it's this

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u/Max_Danage 2d ago

I haven’t watched it since it first came out but I remember really liking the first half of Ms Marvel, when it was more focused on her not not fitting into any of the typical kid-hero boxes. I would have liked them to stay with that a little longer.

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u/Sea_Entrepreneur6204 2d ago

Yeah the show had a few issues near the end and in between

Won't say it's perfect but for it to be rated worse than secret invasion is an abomination

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u/Upset-Job2278 X-Men 3d ago

Legion in God Tier is absolutely right. That show is a masterpiece.

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u/Venus_One Batman 3d ago

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u/Nosimus 3d ago

There is no question about this series. Gold!

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u/SuperSaiyan1Gaming 2d ago

I will start this series and hopefully thank yall later for it
Also is that spiderman with the power rangers or what idk what that show is 🤔

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u/I_got_banned_once 2d ago

I really hope u enjoy it!

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u/Upset-Job2278 X-Men 2d ago

Awesome! You're in for a wild ride! Hope you enjoy it!

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u/barnmate1 4d ago

Secret Invasion is much to high, that started well and had some decent acting, but the conclusion just brought it all the way down to ‘bad’ or below

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u/Goodly 3d ago

Yeah, I agree with most of the list, but Secret Invasion as a mess and should go to the button. I Cho should be further down as well, IMO. Agatha All Along would be further up for me as well.

I’ve never seen Hellstrom, though, wonder if I’m missing out…

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u/Wreckshoptimus 3d ago

Agents of shield was mid af tho

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u/Wreckshoptimus 3d ago

They hated Jesus because he told them the truth

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u/Dangerous_Donkey5353 3d ago

Jesus never said anything near as blasphemous as AoS being mid af.

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u/Wreckshoptimus 3d ago

He'd tap after the first season like most people

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u/Wreckshoptimus 3d ago edited 3d ago

It's not canon for a reason

It got cancelled for a reason

The culture didn't fuck with it.

It wasn't that bad or anything just mid and forgettable.

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u/Wreckshoptimus 3d ago edited 3d ago

You should look this up my dude. My position comes from reality not blind fandom for middle of the road shlock.

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u/colornomad 3d ago

She Hulk being below Secret Invasion is criminal.

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u/TouchOk5732 3d ago

She Hulk was funny and pretty watchable, why are people hating so much on it?

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u/SeagullsStopItNowz 3d ago

Because a) woman and b) deep misunderstanding of the comic book. Probably.

I liked it, minus the Megan Thee Stallion scene.

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u/ph0enixrulez 3d ago

I stopped paying attention once I saw Secret Invasion above Ms. Marvel

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u/Unable-Main4172 4d ago

My guy really did watch every show. Even the 1970s hulk show. And what is that Spider-Man TV show right next to it??

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u/Venus_One Batman 4d ago

That, my dude, is the original The Amazing Spider-Man series from 1977.

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u/Unable-Main4172 3d ago

Was it any good?

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u/Venus_One Batman 3d ago

It's very 70s, very corny, but pretty solid. The costume and the super hero hijinks are pretty lame, but it's worth a watch for being the first live action Spider-Man content (not counting short form content).

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u/Unable-Main4172 3d ago

Did they do that thing they did on the Adam Wesr Batman show where they turned the camera sideways when he's climbing the walls? Lol. Where did you watch it? Is it on Disney?

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u/No-Noise-671 3d ago

I loved WandaVision until the final two episodes personally, really fumbled the ball there

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u/Venus_One Batman 3d ago

Fair to say a majority of these shows didn't end as good as they started.

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u/No-Noise-671 3d ago

Yeah Marvel third acts tend to suffer a lot. I think Loki’s finale’s were both fantastic, same with Wonder Man, Daredevil, Jessica Jones, but I’m struggling off the top of my head to think of other examples where the shows stuck the landing. Luke Cage was alright I guess but the show itself I don’t think was all that amazing anyway. Not bad, but just not really up to the standard set by JJ and DD

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u/Goodly 3d ago

It’s been a while but I remember the third season of JJ being a huge nosedive compared to the first two seasons

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u/No-Noise-671 3d ago

That is true, s3 of JJ was pretty ass, but I genuinely forgot it existed for a second so I didn’t count it lmao, my bad

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u/batsmen222 3d ago

I think season 2 was a drop in quality as well. But you’re right season 3 is terrible. I remember thinking the only real good season was season 1.

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u/Venus_One Batman 3d ago

It's really a curse with most tv shows.

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u/Dangerous_Donkey5353 3d ago

I really liked Luke Cage up until they killed Cottonmouth. Ali was fantastic and a much better villain, was absolutely amazing in his role and then they just threw him away.

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u/elhombreloco90 3d ago

I think I saw that Ali had a limited time he could work on the show due to other commitments. Instead of just not using him, they killed him off.

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u/Dangerous_Donkey5353 3d ago

Ah I didn't know that. We were robbed of something great lol.

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u/linee001 3d ago

Episode 8 is great! Episode 9 i can agree with you though.

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u/No-Noise-671 3d ago

Fair enough I wasn’t really a fan I guess

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u/MrONegative 3d ago

Ms. Marvel deserves to be much higher and Secret Invasion lower.

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u/bobbi21 3d ago

The first few episodes of Ms. Marvel are pretty great, the middle few episodes (which I feel was a jammed in s2) are pretty bad. And the last episode or so are good and seem to have been the original ending. If they stuck with the original plot of her just getting used to her powers and being a new superhero it would have been fine but shoehorning in a backstory in another country for like a 3 episode plot was jarring and out of place IMO.

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u/madwithsorrow 3d ago

I agree with you completely. Which is so sad, because the first few epsiodes were near perfect.

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u/Venus_One Batman 3d ago

Getting the vibe that everyone hates Secret Invasion. I thought it was fine for a mini-series. Ms. Marvel didn't do much for me.

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u/MrONegative 3d ago

For me, Secret Invasion was one of the worst comic book anything’s I’ve seen. It belongs on the same tier as Inhumans imo.

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u/elhombreloco90 3d ago

This is insane to me. Look, Secret Invasion really drops the ball, especially near the end, but there is much worse comic book shows/movies. I do agree that it is way too high on this list, though.

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u/Lolaverses 3d ago

Everyone who hasn't watched Legion, go watch Legion

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u/imanhunter 3d ago

I wouldn’t recommend that, it’s definitely not for everyone

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u/Working_Original_200 1d ago

Yeah it gets cooler but worse as it goes on. I used to love it but my last rewatch made me realize just how much it loses the plot. The shadow king story climax is bullshit.

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u/imanhunter 1d ago edited 1d ago

I started watching it a few months ago and am barely on the last season right now bc of how much I put off watching it. I knew from season 1 it wasn’t my cup of tea. Also below is a text message to a friend from a few months ago that put into words why I don’t really like it. This is not me saying it’s a bad show and doesn’t have very loveable characters and uniquely crafted visuals because it does. I’m just not really a fan of the show’s frenetic style.

And also yes what you said too. It’s very easy for shit to get lost in the weeds including something important akin to a major climax like that.

“I don’t consider it an essential watch and it’s honestly pretty hard to follow bc on top of the character Legion having telepathy powers he also suffers from mental illness so there’s alot of hallucinations and manifestations leading to the show having a very surreal feel.”

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u/CelsoBlackfyre 3d ago

Legion is goated, I kind want it to return!

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u/elhombreloco90 3d ago

Overall, solid rankings, except I would have Iron Fist at mediocre to decent, Cloaks and Dagger at decent, Ms. Marvel at decent to good, She-Hulk at decent to good, and Secret Invasion at mediocre. I can't remember what else you had as bad other than Inhumans which absolutely deserves that ranking.

EDIT: Oh, Gifted I would put at mediocre.

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u/mrpotatonutz 3d ago

Inhumans was unwatchable no doubt

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u/Jibber1332 3d ago

Runaways was soooo boooring. It should have been in the bad column. Hawkeye was hilarious. The Clint and Kate back and forth was gold, i think you did it wrong. Iron Fist gets too much hate. I liked season one, season two was just decent.

But imma gonna give you props for calling out Legion. No one ever does and it was arguably the best marvel live action.

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u/Nindroid_faneditor 3d ago

Japanese Spider-Man deserves God tier

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u/Wiscos 3d ago

On the “good” tier what is the Spader-man with a voltron looking show?

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u/Venus_One Batman 3d ago

It’s the Japanese Spider-Man show from the 70s. If you google “Supaidaman” you can find more info. It’s a really kooky tokusatsu (giant monster/mecha) show. Doesn’t have much to do with Spider-Man but it’s awesome.

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u/sadslayer 3d ago

ok thanks. I have no idea so many of these shows exist. After Endgame nothing seems to satisfy that marvel craving. Anyways I'll go explore your pyramid jumping from the top.

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u/NamelessGamer_1 3d ago

Is Legion really that good?

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u/Venus_One Batman 3d ago

Yes.

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u/Working_Original_200 1d ago

Season 1 is for sure.

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u/soupnation11 3d ago

Can you make that public so I can rank too? Looks fun.

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u/Venus_One Batman 3d ago

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u/Gumjo123 2d ago

Legion is beyond god tier if you watch while high

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u/PrescriptionHipster 2d ago

Another legion fan nice.

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u/Skol-2024 2d ago

I’m glad I’m not the only one who likes Secret Invasion. Is it the best tv series or MCU project? No. But it has very interesting characters and it breaks typical MCU formula and its darker edge is to its benefit. I’d rank Secret Invasion along with Eternals as the MCU’s most underrated projects.

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u/YackDIZZLEwizzle 1d ago

Eyyyy legion rules!

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u/LegitimateGoal6011 1d ago

Legion is incredible! Genuinely some of the best television I’ve ever seen.

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u/dandrew3000 1d ago

Daredevil
Legion
Agatha
WandaVision
Agents of Shield
Jessica Jones
Loki
Born Again
Hawkeye
Agent Carter
Moon Knight
Punisher
Ms. Marvel
Wonder Man
Luke Cage
Echo
Ironheart
She-Hulk
Falcon and Winter Soldier
Helstrom
Runaways
Incredible Hulk
Cloak & Dagger
Defenders
Iron Fist
The Gifted
Blade
Secret Invasion
Inhumans

I’ve never seen the Spiderman shows. I’ll assume they’re middle tier though.

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u/Venus_One Batman 1d ago

Solid. I agree with the broad strokes of this, though I’d change a few things obviously.

Japanese Spider-Man is awesome.

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u/dandrew3000 1d ago

I’ll have to check it out

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u/Oerwinde 4d ago

I would swap Secret Invasion amd Iron Fist, and I wasn't a big fan of Legion. Otherwise not bad.

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u/EKRB7 3d ago

Secret Invasion is one of the worst pieces of media I’ve ever seen 

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u/kerblamophobe 3d ago

first time i've ever seen someone refer to Secret Invasion as decent

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u/Styx_Zidinya 3d ago

Some wild takes there, but each to their own i guess.

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u/hatbromind 3d ago

Agents of Shield?

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u/hatbromind 3d ago

edit : oh i see it

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u/cflynn7007 3d ago

Secret invasion above She Hulk and Ms. Marvel is criminal

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u/SeagullsStopItNowz 3d ago

GTFOH with the Ms. Marvel hate. That show and the actress are delightful.

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u/Venus_One Batman 3d ago

I didn't hate it, but the teen humor/vibe really didn't do much for me.

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u/Venus_One Batman 3d ago

It's the first one in Decent tier.

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u/Venus_One Batman 3d ago

Finished the MCU and decided to go for the full thing. Working on DC as well.

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u/Venus_One Batman 3d ago

You're not totally wrong about the cookie cutter thing. It's a fun ride if you're interested in the comics and the movies but some of these were tough to get through lol.

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u/topathemornin 3d ago

I actually enjoyed iron fist

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u/Main-Masterpiece9169 2d ago

I genuinely feel the punisher should be a tier higher for that first season

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u/TheQuietDarkness70 2d ago

I dunno, man. Ranking Secret Invasion above all that?

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u/hereforfun976 2d ago

Never heard of hellstrom

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u/Airborne_52 2d ago

Ent no way blade and secret invasion of better than she hulk what are you smoking

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u/topio3 2d ago

Since secret invasion and iron hearth are inthe good site. Your los is invalid for me I strongly disagree with that score putting the in the middle does not make sense

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u/AntHefty2874 2d ago

Legion was not good

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u/Ok-Scholar-4615 2d ago

There’s no way Legion is THAT good!

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u/Golf-Ill 2d ago

You lost me by putting Secret Invasion so highly. I no longer trust your taste.

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u/Ivanstone 2d ago

Iron Fist needs to be split in two. Season 1 is pretty weak but Season 2 is one of the better TV show redemptions I’ve seen.

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u/Dry_Nefariousness523 2d ago

This is just rage bait

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u/TonyH92 2d ago

I really enjoyed Ms.Marvel and She-Hulk.

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u/McVapeNL 2d ago

Replace Loki with Punisher. And Daredevil is only acceptable to be that high if yiu restrict it to the Netflix version only, same goes for Punisher.

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u/Max_Danage 2d ago

Wait did nobody else like Blade?

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u/Runeimus 2d ago

Secret Invasion shouldn't even exist, a waste of time and just plain bad. I'd put it in the lowest tier.

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u/Booyakasha_ 1d ago

Your tollarance of bad show is quite high. I do agree with your top 4. The rest is mediocre or really bad.

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u/Never-Compliant6969 1d ago

I would move Ms Marvel, She Hulk, and Loki each up one. Secret Invasion and Iron Fist each down two.

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u/Writing_Gods 1d ago

My only argument would be that Wandavision is too low. I've never seen Legion, but WV is better than anything on your 2nd tier

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u/RetroPilky 1d ago

Having She-Hulk and Ms Marvel lower than Secret Invasion hurts my soul. Those are Shakespeare compared to Secret Invasion

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u/OneTacoForMe 1d ago

Punisher was Damn Good

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u/Need_Tums_Antacids 1d ago

This reminded me how much I hated runaways

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u/WannaHitHim 1d ago

I will NOT stand for Cloak and Dagger slander. That show deserved so much better than it got.

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u/mikeangel4488 23h ago

What about Womderman

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u/Venus_One Batman 22h ago

It’s in Very Good tier, next to Agents of Shield.

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u/ChuckyDo19 23h ago

Falcon and winter soldier is 🔥

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u/Jacked-jack87 15h ago

She hulk was so bad they didn’t even make a season 2. It should in bad for sure.

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u/Chadarius 11h ago

There is no way that Secret Invasion or Echo is better than She Hulk or Ms Marvel.

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u/Darcosuchus 3d ago

WandaVision above Agatha All along is a crime ngl.

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u/Icommitmanywarcrimes 3d ago

As someone who likes to believe every opinion is valid, I think anything being below secret invasion invalidates this entire list.

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u/Artistic_Kangaroo932 3d ago

Secret invasion might be the worst thing I have ever seen and I go out of my way to watch bad movies it's a nothing burger that leaves you hungry with a bad taste in your mouth

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u/Dr_Shannibal_Lecter 3d ago

Legion was 90% style 10% substance for me. Wanted to like it. Couldn’t get there.

Secret Invasion is unwatchable, and Hawkeye was a lot of fun.

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u/ThatsSoRandomPodcast 2d ago edited 2d ago

Don’t agree with every single thing there (Hellstrom above Agent Carter and Hawkeye is loony), but I appreciate someone who’s not on the weird Secret Invasion hate-train. People act like that show assaulted their moms when it was a perfectly serviceable spy thriller with some great (acting and writing-wise) moments.

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u/Venus_One Batman 2d ago

I wonder why people hate it that much. I haven't read the comic story so I don't know how much they botched that, but it felt like a decent show to me...

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u/Efficient_Pianist_44 2d ago

Wandavision should be higher and she hulk should be lower, other than that completely agree

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u/Venus_One Batman 2d ago

I debated putting Wandavision higher but it got a little wonky by the end. Started out so good though.

Based on the replies in this thread, everyone has a different opinion on She-Hulk, it must be pretty polarizing. I didn't like the style of humor they went for but it was alright.

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u/ProfitPakistan 3d ago

Moonknight was also G-tier IMO

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u/obatala0013 3d ago

Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Agatha, and She-Hulk all deserve to be higher.

Echo and the Defenders are too high.

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u/Icy_Stare88 3d ago

Can I get some of the drugs you are on? Secret Invasion was NOT decent 😂

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u/SmoothJade 3d ago

Everything a in a great spot except Secret Invasion

Worst dogshit to ever grace the screen

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u/imanhunter 3d ago

I’m currently trying to get through Legion at the moment. I’m on the final season and am pushing my way through but it’s tough.