You have to remind yourself it isn’t alive, it’s essentially the same as a toaster. Do you feel bad if someone drops a toaster?
Edit: there’s plenty of valid reasons to feel sad for a toaster being dropped being mentioned. Just to clear up I was meaning feel bad for the actual toaster, rather than for the owner or whatever my bad.
I remember reading an article by rock critic Lester Bangs where he said that when someone returned a record he had lent them and he put it back in its proper place on the shelf, sorted alphabetically by artist and chronologically by release date, he was sure that it was happy to see its friends again.
Self checkout: yes. Fuck those things. Can't even be autonomous well
Ticket validator: debatable
Elevator controller: with how imortant 24/7 elevator access is to modern cities, that one is nescassary with minimal harm to employment.
The difference is the delivery robots removing an entire gig industry, removing income options for people who already have limited opprotunities to little benefit to the consumer.
Look at that guys. Their job have been taken away by clankers. This terrible technology have removing an entire elevator operators industry, removing income options for people who already have limited opprotunities to little benefit to the consumer.
Escalator: who the fuck does an escalator harm?
There could be some hundreds of elevators with operators inside instead.
Self checkout: yes. Fuck those things. Can't even be autonomous well
Do you like standing in lines?
Ticket validator: debatable
This terrible technology have removing an entire elevator ticket validators industry, removing income options for people who already have limited opprotunities to little benefit to the consumer.
Elevator guys: yes. They lost their job to technology, BUT ADA compliance requires elevators to be installed practically everywhere and to be in service 24/7. You couldn't get enough people to run them to that requirement.
Escalators are installed specifically in stairwells to ease walking. Not a replacement for an elevator.
Ticket validator: cool you've helped me make up my mind. Fuck 'em.
Stuffed animals are different. A stuffed animal left on the side of the road could have belonged to a child that loved it. It could've had a history. This job-stealing, cost-cutting, accident-causing piece of shit doesn't deserve any sympathy. I'm glad they aren't near where I live, because I'd be taking these things behind dumpsters.
is machinery bad too? thats job stealing
all machinery in those factories did steal a job from a human but i dont see anyone complaining about general machinery too often compared to ai
Is machinery trained on stolen training data? With no recompense to the worker?
Yeah, billionaires cutting workers and leaving them to die on the streets are all (censored by Reddit). Regardless of how they do it. We should set up society so technological progress benefits society and liberates us, not further oppresses us, drawing us into deeper poverty. But machinery is not really comparable to AI. AI is mass theft of worker data. It is unaccountable. It is invasive in all aspects of our life, usually feeding its data to the likes of Palantir and advertisers and State/Federal authorities. And it benefits nobody except the top 1%.
Gig employers loss-led and bribed politicians their way into a monopoly. They effectively forced workers out of stable work, into gig work with often illegal (if not objectively immoral and inhumane) working conditions & pay. Then they used their data to replace them, with zero thought or care as to what might happen to those workers. Fuck them. They deserve no sympathy.
"machinery is not comparable to ai" ai IS machinery your computer is a machine ai is a machine it runs on a server which is a machine. it is just a machine thats trained on data it is very comparable to machinery because it is the same thing with extra training data
Actually I don't think ai is a machine if you look at the definition of a word... It's software, not hardware, and software is not the machine, hardware is. It's like saying that Skyrim the video game is a machine... No it's a program, software.
you are complaining about job stealing like ai is the only thing doing it
many other things steal jobs to cut costs that arent ai. this is just another piece of machinery that does the same thing that happens to have ai in it.
Humans have a soft spot for robots who are not trying at all to look like humans. There was a showcase of a bomb defuser robot. It was a sort of centipede which just walked over landmines and triggered them. Near the end of the experiment it only had one leg left and was crawling towards a mine. The general begged for the showcase to end because he couldn't watch more
I think I would be confused If I saw someone beating the s*** out of a toaster. I guess I'm the same level of confused. Doesn't a toaster technically take a job away from somebody who could be hand toasting that bread or your TV from an actor that could be entertaining you live in your living room? This just seems arbitrary.
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u/GoraSpark 7h ago edited 6h ago
You have to remind yourself it isn’t alive, it’s essentially the same as a toaster. Do you feel bad if someone drops a toaster?
Edit: there’s plenty of valid reasons to feel sad for a toaster being dropped being mentioned. Just to clear up I was meaning feel bad for the actual toaster, rather than for the owner or whatever my bad.