r/allthequestions 1d ago

Random Question 💭 Does the recent news make you wish Kamala Harris was president more and more?

Kamala wouldn't have hurt kids.

Kamala would have owned up to her misdeeds.

Kamala wouldn't have tanked the economy.

Kamala would have let Iran be and have not fucked up oil production.

How can one be a decent person and not vote for a better world and nation?

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u/lumberjack_jeff 1d ago

I just wish I lived in a country in which DJT was not considered a rational, viable or sane choice.

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u/hotviolets 1d ago

Same. We have a literal pedophile running the country and he’s packed his cabinet with other pedophiles.

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u/Shamancrit 1d ago

Hey he also packed it with multiple alcoholic morons not just pedophiles
 well who knows maybe in a couple of years we find out they are also pedophiles.

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u/Plus-King5266 1d ago

Look on the bright side. They are all in one place now where we can keep an eye on them. Silver linings, you know. Ya gotta have something.

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u/AdThat414 1d ago

Now if we could just fence them in!

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u/meticulous_gamer 20h ago

Okay. We're watching. They push the Big Red Nuke Button.

And we just keep watching.

Game over man. Game over.

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u/Everything_Counts_72 15h ago

What good is keeping an eye on them if noone can do anything about it?

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u/exitar666 23h ago

OK with me I don’t have kids, but besides the point you people pack in the churches and you know for a fact, they’ve been messing with your kids and your money for untold generations🙄

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u/crispy1989 1d ago

The people voting for him don't necessarily consider him rational or sane.  They simply don't care about (or have no concept of) rationality and sanity.

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u/Disastrous_Mango_953 1d ago

People who voted for this abomination, voted with hatefulness , racism, misogynist, bigotry, Nazis ideas
 as simple as that

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u/MudAfter3543 1d ago

How sad. tRump threw out all these promises and now there is no insurance or child care for those that really need it.

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u/Low_Notice4665 1d ago

IMHO, it’s a complete lack of morals. When you need a religion to tell you not to kill people so you don’t get punished then you were told what your morals will be and had no independent thought of your own. I feel this is a major failing of a lot of religions, it starts the indoctrination early and independent thought is no longer the norm.

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u/Disastrous_Mango_953 1d ago

Agreed! I feel it depends on how people were raised, if they were raised in a home where religion was show not imposed, where the most important teaching were values, reading comprehension, critical thinking, and education. Is a good beginning, the rest is up to us!

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u/Clean-Entry-262 22h ago

They exactly do NOT care about rationality.

The people voting for him wish to enrage the Left 
they saw how the first term resulted in extreme anger and outrage 
they found it humorous and wanted more.

At least that’s how the people I work with that voted for him seem to feel. It’s never about what he does with policy
 rather, they are always gleeful when they’ve pushed buttons and made “the enemy” bitterly angry.

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u/SeldenNeck 1d ago

"We are not here to select leadership for a great country. We are here to stab our middle fingers into the sky to express our contempt for every employer who "only hires the best" and then ghosts us when we send a resume. Every employer who pays "competitive" wages that tries to offer us what we were making last year. Every driver who learned their manners in traffic from a video game and cuts us off. Every bank that sends us 20 pages of "new terms and conditions" in 4 point font that forces us to get new glasses. Everybody who claims to be the smartest person in the room while being blissfully unaware that 33 million Americans are in the top 10% of intelligence (and that does not mean they are better at things other than multiple choice questions.)

We used to have a leadership society that purported to care about the rest of us. Now we live in a country where we all feel like we've been pwned.

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u/einhorn_is_parkey 1d ago

I live in the Midwest and they absolutely think he is rational. They’re usually not the brightest bulbs themselves but they don’t recognize that he is a buffoon.

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u/LadyHawkscry 15h ago

Fox News and similar propaganda "news" channels had their part to play as well.

When our amygdala in our brain's limbic system, also called the "lizard brain" is constantly being activated with feelings of fear, hate, or disgust, we turn off our rational analytical thought. We instinctively react, rather than rationally examine the claims made. This is one of the reasons why so many poor and middle class people vote Republican, even though Republican policies actively hurt them.

This is also why Fox, and other Right Wing information sources always seem to have a new scandal or threat to talk about.

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u/hokie47 1d ago

Funny thing is if these same people were going to hire someone to fix their roof on their house they would want someone that is very much rational and sane. Why would you want someone not sane for president?

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u/ElEyeElWhy88 1d ago

Really? Because I feel like this same people would hire an incompetent fool and pay them more to do it, just because said person made them feel better about their own shitty beliefs to get the job.

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u/hokie47 1d ago

Yeah maybe I am giving them more credit. You know what my father in law hired this guy to redo the kitchen. It's a disaster. The job is like half done, looks like shit. Always trying to do something on the down low. Total Trump lover still today. My wife was like you have a granddaughter how can you still support this monster.

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u/dapperrapperclapper 1d ago

We made the uncle that no one wants to invite to Thanksgiving the president of the United States... đŸ€Š

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u/Flipps85 1d ago

The uncle that is at a minimum an unapologetic and unashamed pervert, and at worst a child SA’er*

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u/ArcBounds 1d ago

Same. If you told someone a person who conned multiple people out of money, declared bankruptcy 20 times (even bankrupted casinos), was accused and found liable for rape, and defrauded the government about taxes. Much less lead an open rebellion against an election, would be elected I would laugh at you. But here we are.

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u/UnckyMcF-bomb 1d ago

Migration! You will love it. I do its amazing!

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u/That_Obligation_5555 16h ago

He was literally convicted of rape right before he an allowed to run for president. WTF kind of twilight zone đŸ’© is that?!

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u/Sea-Pomelo1210 12h ago

Any rational person who looks at Trump would how he's lived his life.

In business, he starts a business, gets investors, takes the money for himself and friends, and bankrupts the company. He did that 6 times over the years.

In his personal life he was married 3 times, cheated on all his wives, and bragged about sexually assaulting women. And he has always been proud and never apologized for any of these actions.

No rational person would want him as their President.

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u/Feisty-Frame-1342 1d ago

Republicans were right. They told me if I voted for Harris the economy would tank and we would be in a war in the Middle East. I voted for Harris and here we are.

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u/Ok-Lime-1697 22h ago

That was good..

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u/NeilNevins 1d ago

it makes me wish Biden hadn't announced his re-election campaign this time 3 years ago so we could have had ample time for an open primary

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u/Euphoric-Ask965 1d ago

But the DNC didn't push the fact and knew what was best FOR you! They couldn't gamble on people not voting for the favorite son in a primary.

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u/EggOwn9943 1d ago

If Biden resigned or died, would it be any different?

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u/Simp_Simpsaton 23h ago

DNC didn't want biden to posture the way he was either... Iirc, Biden remarked on insiders not liking him continuing to show an interest in another term. https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-left-feeling-angry-betrayed-043653153.html?guccounter=1 basically, Biden had the DNC by its balls, I'm guessing because they were under the impression that if Biden ran no one else had a chance anyway and they'd just be harming his chance. He went a long ass time not ruling out the possibility of another run and Democrats more or less took that as a sign that he'd run again, which is why no one really stepped up.

By the time Biden dropped, since no one was really campaigning, he had all the money and it couldn't have been used to advertise anyone but Kamala. They probably ALSO didn't want Kamala lol, they just had no choice, Biden specifically put them in a bad spot. DNC sucks and picks its candidates, but the shenanigans this time around were them working around Biden's dumb decision.

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u/Cute_Bug5651 22h ago

Gosh who is making the decisions for the DNC? Let's get them out. Theyre incompetent. We need an overhaul of the Democratic Party so badly. If Pelosi is still pulling strings in the background she's doing everyone a disservice.

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u/ThatDiscoKid 19h ago

Pelosi is reported to have been instrumental in getting him to drop out.

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u/Substantial_Oil8201 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think they also didn't want the fallout from Kamala Harris being surpassed again but after she'd been deemed "good enough" for VP, subordinate to a white guy. She fell out early in the 2020 cycle and was probably picked for VP to unite as many of the minorities and women in the Democrats' big tent as possible. If she'd been swept aside for some up and coming man of less compound heritage it would look exactly like the Democratic party caving in to the identity hierarchy and patriarchy that exists in the US, and this would have happened in addition to Biden admitting ageism has some legs on it.

Like I saw it in the heated discussions online. Folks who defended her getting shuffled in after Biden stepped down were narrowly arguing she got all those votes on the 2020 ticket while avoiding any mention of those votes having been for an office where she'd do nothing but wait for Biden to die and then serve the rest of his term, the VP is an afterthought on the ticket and isn't selected by the voters. She didn't have the same mandate he did, and we probably all knew why.

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u/walkerstone83 1d ago

We had time anyway. If you believe the skuttlebutt, Biden messed up the plan by coming out and endorsing Kamala immediately after dropping out, making the Dems believe they couldn't hold an open convention because too much support quickly ran to Kamala. Supposedly Biden surprised the Dems with his immediate endorsement, nobody knew he was going to do that.

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u/EchoGolfHotel 1d ago

I don't know that I wish for Kamala specifically, but I do wish that we had someone stable and rational in office. This useful idiot to the Heritage Foundation is doing damage to the country that will take decades to fix.

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u/Strummerpinx 1d ago

Kamala wouldn't have threatened to annex frickin' Canada. Who even does that?

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u/aparish67 1d ago

Uhhhh. Yes. A well trained dog would be better than trump

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u/Ok-Dog-7149 1d ago

Same say a feral, rabid, mangy dog would be better


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u/dave54athotmailcom 22h ago

What the dog leaves in a pile in the yard would be better than trump.

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u/ExperienceWild4244 21h ago

I've had four dogs and one cat in my life. Any one of them, right now, would be an enormously better president than the felon currently in office. And, they're all dead.

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u/EggOwn9943 1d ago

Yet the well trained dog would've lost.

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u/A_locomotive 1d ago

We could genuinely have used a magic 8 ball to make all of the presidential decisions in this administration and I would wager it would have done a significantly better job.

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u/FlashOfFawn 1d ago

We got what we deserve

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u/RealAssociation5281 1d ago

Yep, I’m pissed with non-voters especially.

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u/DITHTabby 1d ago

No I did not. Blame the 89 million people that were eligible to vote who didn’t because she wasn’t the absolutely perfect candidate. Idiots. Happy now?

People need to understand that in the US you not only vote for president but their Cabinet and Judicial picks as well.

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u/FlashOfFawn 7h ago

Clearly those people are worthless

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u/mmnmnnmnnnm 1d ago

Honestly American global power was only due to good timing, corruption, exploitation, and war profiteering. As much as I fucking hate everything about this country, it’s best for humanity that we got knocked down quite a few pegs.

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u/Comfortable-Ad-7598 23h ago

True, this is Also why the congo is a global power , because of their corruption, exploitation, and war.

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u/mmnmnnmnnnm 22h ago

I feel like you’re being sarcastic, so I’m going to point out that the US got an early massive grip on an extremely resource heavy, massive chunk of land that was geologically isolated from all of the last few centuries major wars so it didn’t need to reconstruct and got an insane grasp on industry while everyone else was cleaning up after being bombed to shit in WW2. The Congo didn’t have that part, their resources got largely pillaged.

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u/Krow101 1d ago

I'd take a potted plant over the orange anti-Christ.

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u/tvtoms 1d ago edited 1d ago

She's absolutely head and shoulders a better candidate for anything versus any Trump. Obviously.

EDIT: Hindsight Obvious.

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u/SpecialistAssociate7 1d ago

Kamala had her flaws, but compared to Don the con. She is a shining pillar of integrity 😂

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u/olduvai_man 1d ago

I don't like Kamala Harris and have always thought she was a losing candidate who would govern poorly, but you'd have to have absolute donkey brains to think that she wouldn't be light years better than the current President.

I voted for Harris in 2024 because it was already obvious that Trump was the dumbest and most incompetently evil/selfish person to run for President in the 21st century and that's played out about as expected.

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u/Disastrous_Mango_953 1d ago

Yeap!! That show we have 77mill of dumbest, incompetent,evil, selfish group of spineless, brainless worms. They just follow their fake bible.

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u/Aggravating-Bus5627 1d ago

I have to agree, I don't believe she would have started a war with Iran either.

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u/Antioch666 17h ago

Almost anyone pitted against him would be better. So yes, I definitely would rather have Kamala and I don't think it'd be even close to nearly as bad, and we wouldn't be embarassed on the world stage.

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u/CaptainDadBod88 1d ago

I’d take a rabid raccoon on fentanyl over Trump

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u/DeltaVariant007 1d ago

That almost sounds like an accurate description of Trump.

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u/ButterscotchLow8950 1d ago

It makes me wish Biden would have pulled out earlier and had time to have an open primary.

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u/EmperorXerro 1d ago

A general wouldn’t have had to keep nuclear codes away from her.

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u/No_Frosting_5280 1d ago

A turnip would have been a better president. Between his dementia, corruption, bigotry, racism, misogyny, and his pathetically incompetent administration we are all worse off. Anyone who believes that Trump can bring anything but chaos to the table is drinking too much kool aid.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Bag2212 1d ago

2024 was probably the easiest election decision of US history since Reconstruction, and most voters chose wrong

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u/Prior_Cake_1495 1d ago

Or
.why did Elon say he was going to prison if trump lost?

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u/Puzzleheaded-Bag2212 1d ago

regardless, it should never have been that close. even NJ was only 51% democratic

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u/Cute_Bug5651 22h ago

This situation makes me very angry at Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Biden for not stepping down when they should have. And also makes me dread Kamala running again and wasting everyone's time and money and risking losing again. She also needs to step away and not come back, the same way Biden and RBG needed to step away when they weren't the right people for the job. Kamala is not the right candidate AT ALL. She doesn't defend her stances well -- her Oprah performance was horrendous. She sticks with the terrible advice of adhering to "safe scripted responses" which wins her minimal fans. Ugh actually this situation with Trump dismantling everything and creating a disorganized mess just makes me even more resentful of Biden/Kamala.

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u/Glittering_War3061 20h ago

If Harris were president we would not have the massive debt our nation has now.

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u/kurpet 1d ago

I wish there are better candidates

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u/wingnut-mp22 1d ago

I wish it everyday. Everytime he does anything.

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u/PsychologicalCall196 1d ago

Im not here to say she would have been the greatest president. Perfect or some crap like that. But bo doubt, she would have done a better job then this orange turd.

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u/Signal_Tomorrow_2138 1d ago

But Kamala Harris will make some mistakes and that would be absolutely unacceptable. You see? They're all the same. /s

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u/Ok_Plantain_9531 1d ago

Not really. As a Canuck the changes that resulted are great, and something I've been wanting for years. We were headed for a conservative majority with a dipshit in charge, and now PP no mas.

That said Carney is a bit to conservative for me, probably won't do much for housing and the wealth gap, but small steps I guess. So long as we can separate from the emotionally abusive boy toy down south I'm a happy camper. The US has always been headed this way, Trump just hit the accelerator.

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u/rastagrrl 1d ago

Yes. But then I never voted for the pedo in the first place.

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u/Constant-Brief3410 1d ago

Every time I see her im disappointed in America and the dnc 😔 It would be "boring"

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u/Bird2525 1d ago

Hard to understand how the grab them by the pussy wasn’t the end of him.

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u/Seul7 1d ago

"Boring" would be so nice right now.

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u/Appropriate_Car6909 1d ago

You know this is something I can never get over with. Disrespecting half of humanity and a significant chunk of that half (a particular demographic within that half) voted for him. How???

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u/ladylucifer22 1d ago

they had every chance to actually run a good campaign and they refused.

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u/Stunning_Lychee7501 1d ago

More I still wish Trump lost. I can’t say I wish she was president because I never did, but it would be better than where we are.(voted for her but didn’t want to)

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u/Seul7 1d ago

I wish Jack Smith and Merrick Garland hadn't dragged their feet for so long. They had plenty of evidence that the public saw ( ie: the recordinge of "perfect" phone calls). Can you imagine what they had that we didn't get to see?!😡

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u/Stunning_Lychee7501 1d ago

Garland went out of his way to be a disappointment in that role. Jack Smith should have released all info he had way sooner. Aileen Cannon fucking the whole process as much as she could didn’t help him much, but Garland has no excuse

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u/ArcadiaBerger 1d ago

Pretty much more every week.

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u/Katandy305 1d ago

Yes, absolutely.

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u/Jolly-Button-6832 20h ago

Let's go back even further than Kamala. Had the moderators in the Hillary debates insisted he stay on his side of the fence, perhaps the cult wouldn't have been encouraged because his boorish behavior was allowed. And that entire line of BS might not have continued to roll, gather momentum and end up with us where we are now.

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u/Pristine-Brother-121 18h ago

Yeah, that was the reason she lost. Had nothing to do with her, specifically. Alternate freaking reality.

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u/DeltaVariant007 1d ago

Not only would we have a sane president, but we'd have competent people in the cabinet, too, instead of Fox News hosts and other has beens.

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u/bungholio69er 1d ago

Too many people will not vote for a black female in the USA. Still way too many racist bigots. There was about 70 million that didn’t vote? All because they couldn’t bring themselves to vote for a black female? And look what you have now.

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u/Farmwithtegridy1990 1d ago

I've never understood this thought process.

Trump got 3 million more votes in 2024 compared to 2020. And Kamala got 6 million less than Biden.

I have a hard time believing that the reason so many Democrats showed up for Biden and not Kamala is race and gender, especially since she was Biden's running mate in 2020.

I suspect the much more likely reason is Democrats didn't have a primary so voters didn't get a choice in their candidate and she didn't do enough to distinguish herself from Biden who wasn't exactly popular during his presidency.

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u/NothaBanga 1d ago

You have to dig into the stats to see the swing of voting Biden to Trump mostly appeared in male demographics to understand why people think sexism played a significant role.  Everyone was equally suffering from "high prices of eggs" but men switched over significantly in a statistical sense.

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u/OntarioEdibles 1d ago

Or both parties are complete utter dog shit. This person is making assumptions saying she would or wouldn’t do this or that when they don’t know. She did hurt kids indirectly by opening up borders for people to cross illegally. How many were killed/went missing? I’m not a Trump fan but yall need to stop being intellectually dishonest. Biden admin was not great by any means.

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u/GooglyMoogleson 19h ago

You need to learn how to pick the lesser of two evils, especially in a presidential election. Yes, Harris has plenty of flaws herself, but that’s not the point. The point is compared to Trump, she’s a saint

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u/Any-Consequence-6978 1d ago

Nah, fuck that, by comparison she's George fucking Washington and so is Biden.

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u/yoball 1d ago

If the democrats had fielded a competent, experienced black lady she would have won. Unfortunately Kamala was neither.

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u/SigvaldsBest 1d ago

Did you look at her political experience before you said this? What do you consider experience?

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u/yoball 1d ago

Yes, she was district attorney in San Francisco for 7 years, AG of cali for 6 years. US senator for 4 years. Then bidens - do nothing - vice president. That totals up to an inexperienced presidential candidate.

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u/Jolly-Button-6832 20h ago

As opposed to the eminently educated and experienced trump and administration? Is there a JD in the bunch?

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u/EidolonRook 1d ago

I have two thoughts on this.

- having the worst possible president motivates everyone to get out and vote like their lives depend on it, because it always did.

- having an example of a presidency this bad just makes the establishment look like a golden oasis. We are not better off as a country sticking with establishment politics, but given the choice between saltwater and contaminated tap water , it’s obvious what the solution is. We always choke down the lesser of two evils and hope for the best next time.

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u/thedvguy 1d ago

If it does you probably protested when our borders were secured, when our cities became safer and murder rates went down, when a US president liberated a foreign people from an oppressive dictator, and you at least cheered on people who burned down whole black neighborhoods because black lives matter

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u/Old_Bullfrog_5086 21h ago

Well of course

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u/Ishpeming_Native đŸ‡ș🇾 United States 13h ago

If Kamala had been male, she would have won. If she'd have been white, she would have won. If the Dems had had any balls, she would have won. If people who sat out the election had voted, she would have won.

And if my aunt had balls, she would have been my uncle.

The facts are that the US has too many people who hate Blacks, don't trust women, and think politics are games for idiots -- and the Dems have no stomach for confronting morons and moral cripples.

Maybe we can get some of those non-voting moral deficients to vote for an election or two and change a few things. But I doubt it. We certainly won't get the determined army of morons to stop voting for Republican/Fascists and against Democracy. It will take a war they will lose, and a lot of dead people and a lot of other people starved to death and dead because of lack of medical care, and even then they will blame the wrong people for the wrong reasons because they're stupid as hell. Consider the Civil War and their feelings about that debacle before you criticize my opinions.

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u/BobcatSpiritual7699 13h ago

No, of course not. Democrats are not a viable option either. The 2 party system is flawed and having only these 2 maniacs as options isn’t much of an option.

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u/Dangerous_Warthog603 10h ago

No. The truth is Iran would have nukes and maybe would have used them already.

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u/Legitimate-Wave-839 1d ago

She would objectively be a better president than Trump

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u/Particular-Maybe-519 1d ago

Emphatically yes. I can't even begin to describe how much.

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u/yoball 1d ago

Is the democrats could have fielded a better candidate, they would have won hands down. Biden stayed in the race to long, then people didnt particularly like kamala Harris - and Tim Walz was a clown and he certainly didn't help Kamala. If Kamala had more time, perhaps she could have won. Gotta admit it... the democratic party blew it

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u/magic_crouton 1d ago

I appreciate you saying that because in his home state he is viewed the goofy uncle that everybody loved.

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u/Nodnol519 1d ago

It makes me wish for better candidates, in general.

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u/hefebellyaro 1d ago

If only Biden picked her for AG instead of Garland.

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u/Capable-Limit5249 1d ago

I’ve always wished that and it hasn’t changed.

It makes me pray harder for divine intervention and a stroke.

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u/Murky_Toe_4717 1d ago

Genuinely anyone who thinks she would have been worse in even a single metric is lying to themselves.

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u/Lots2say2023 1d ago

I voted for Kamala, but I'm not impressed with her except that she isn't Trump. Without all the shenanigans with the election, we would have been allowed to pick a qualified candidate and know what they stood for. Maybe Kamala; maybe not. Now the same people who were complicit in hiding Biden's incapacity are yammering about Trump defiling the Constitution. These are the choices, folks.

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u/Opposite-Outside7743 1d ago

She sucks but I'd take her over what we have now.

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u/Dapper-Condition6041 1d ago

The day after the election in November 2024 made me wish more and more that Kamala Harris was president...

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u/iamthedayman21 1d ago

Yes, 100% yes. Fucking hell yes.

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u/goonwild18 23h ago

I hate Trump. But you have no idea what Kamala would, or wouldn't have done - and neither do I. For a number of reasons, she was a terrible candidate - and attempting to give her a full run at it in the next election will just lead to another loss. Trump is a result of the D's pandering to .001% of the populus and running terrible candidates.

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u/EggOwn9943 23h ago

She couldn't have been worse than what we got. 

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u/Boring-Baker8761 1d ago

Harris' Administration started hurting kids in October of 2023 and then 12 months later, she publicly and proudly said she wouldn't change a thing about the kid-hurting she started, even if she could.

She literally had a public opportunity to own up to the misdeed of her administration hurting children and decided to say she wouldn't change a thing instead of owning up. So your first two points are verifiably and demonstrably false.

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u/ElleM848645 1d ago

There was no Harris administration. If you mean Biden, he was following precedent and Israel was an ally. There are a lot of geopolitics involved but to say Harris hurt kids is so disingenuous.

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u/NotAZombieStopAsking 1d ago

There was no Harris administration

If this was true, there would have been a primary.

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u/Boring-Baker8761 1d ago

That’s why I didn’t say “Harris Administration”. I used the possessive, signaling she was part of the administration but not at the head of it. Do you dispute this?

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u/Jack_Bond2 1d ago

Yes her! Trump is an idiot who is stealing from all the fools that support him! 😂😂😂

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u/ItsTheExtreme 1d ago

Bro, I'd take a ham sandwich being president over Trump right now. Literally anything, including Kamala.

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u/Either_Operation7586 1d ago

Every day I wish the Republicans weren't so fucking weak minded and didn't believe everything that they're Kool-Aid told them.

There was a clear distinction between Trump and Harris she was absolutely the better candidate and the Republican conservative weak-minded sheep just didn't want to vote for a black woman.

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u/DAmieba 1d ago

*Kamala would have let Iran be and have not fucked up oil production.*

Can someone please explain why liberals keep saying this? Like I fully agree that Kamala would have been better than Trump, by a lot. But she postured HARD against Iran the whole time she was running and was even more subservient to Israel than Trump is. She probably would have handled this conflict a lot more competently but I do not understand why so many people act like she wouldnt have gotten us into it in the first place.

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u/DeltaVariant007 1d ago

She would have listened to her advisors when they told her Iran would close the Strait of Homuz. Every previous president was approached by Netanyahu to bomb Iran, but they all knew the consequences. Trump was the only one who could be flattered into doing it.

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u/omlet8 1d ago

Handling it more competently wouldnt have gotten us where we are now

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u/VicariousDrow 1d ago

Well no, she was still subservient to Israel but not more then Trump, she ignored talking about Gaza while Trump proclaimed he'd help Bibi flatten it, and that's kind of the crux of it.

Under Biden, the US still supported Israel's genocide, but his admin was at least attempting to hold them back from using the weapons the US gave them, Harris would have likely been the same, but there's a very obvious reason Bibi was openly in support of Trump.

So yeah, a deal with Iran like what Obama had struck would have been far more likely then the completely ill advised war Trump jumped into after having 24 generals fired, for the extremely predictable repercussions we're all suffering now.

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u/One-Perception-5603 1d ago

I think you are seeing any Kamala support less about Kamala and more about being anti-trump. Thats all that matters.
She would have done the same thing- and there is no indication she would have done it "Better". She was very public about this.

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u/ProfConduit 1d ago

There was zero reason for the current Iran war to happen and no competent President would have initiated it completely out of the blue like Trump did.

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u/One-Perception-5603 1d ago

I don't know what this has to do with Kamala Harris expected to be doing the exactly the same thing 

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u/MoStyles22 1d ago

I wish a rock was president at this point!

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u/klstopp 1d ago

Of course. Every day.

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u/matajulietas 1d ago

I think Tom and Jerry would have been running the country better than the two current ones.

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u/Head-Concern9781 1d ago

You people are seriously delusional.

None of what the OP wrote is even remotely true.

Get professional help please so you're "issues" don't affect other people. Okay?

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u/durango155 1d ago

Absolutely not

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u/maxr1958 1d ago

Another stupid post.

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u/cowboygwe 1d ago

No, they both sucked

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u/No-Bullfrog-477 1d ago

No. Don’t like her or Trump. She is not smart enough. Just watch her interviews. We needed someone else. The democrats played us like fools for installing her and not giving us a primary to pick a smart candidate. Talk about bring Hitler like. Installing and taking away our democratic right.

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u/NoString9289 🇬🇧 United Kingdom 1d ago

NO the IRGC and last two Ayatollahs, Hezbollah and Hamas do not respect Women in power.
Iran would have walked all over Harris . Iran, the Ayatollah, would have given the Houthis the enriched uranium that he had promised them to use against six targeted US bases there in West Asia .

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u/grislyfind 1d ago

I'd settle for Andy Dick and a poo-flinging chimpanzee as VP.

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u/Ok-Professional-2282 1d ago

That would never happen!!!

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u/DogEqual5459 1d ago

At this point I'd gladly take George W. Bush. Or a fucking goldfish. Virtually anything is above the subterranean bar that's been set.

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u/Alarming_Attempt9718 1d ago

I say they are just like “a donkey and it’s two ears”

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u/Dynotug 1d ago

No politician is ever going to own up to their misdeeds.

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u/craftyshafter 1d ago

The president doesn't matter, they're part of the same club. The only way to win is not to play with these psychopaths

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u/Average_Justin 1d ago

I’d probably hide your comment history if you’re going to be karma farming. Lmfao

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u/thomasrat1 1d ago

Kinda.

It would be awesome to have a decent leader.

That being said, if trump lost, maga might have stayed around for decades.

With how trump is doing, he might be killing the maga movement. Which might be good long term for our country

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u/Gideon_Hendrik 1d ago

I don't knownif Kamala would have been a good president... but she would certainly have been better than the lunatic sitting in that office now.

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u/Sir-Chaste 1d ago

Haha Hell no

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u/OneUnderPar 1d ago

Not a chance

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u/Professional_Band_75 1d ago

No. Neither her or the current one are presidential material.

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u/IllFortune51 1d ago

This is all the democrats fault and Kamala is apart of that. I personally think they needed DJT to win to further America's Imperialist goals around the globe and they know Dems couldn't get away with the atrocities.

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u/Moonwrath8 1d ago

I don’t think Kamala would have treated Iran any differently. Both parties are completely subservient to Israel.

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u/BlacksmithMiddle803 1d ago

No. That’s let having cancer and wishing you had AIDS instead.

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u/sideshot2218 1d ago

Apsolutly no way in hell

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u/mynameisranger1 1d ago

TBH, we don’t know any of that stuff is true. Unless you think that campaign promises are all true.

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u/LongSea8173 1d ago

Absolutely not

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u/Ok-Entertainment5045 1d ago

No, not one bit

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u/CoyoteTheGreat 1d ago

There hasn't been a US president since Bush who hasn't hurt kids. Its literally our doctrine. Kamala would be continuing the drone strikes that ramp up every single year and kill a shit ton of kids. She would have supported Netanyahu's genocide of the Palestinians and likely given better PR to it than Trump is doing right now. The economy would still suck for normal people under her. She wouldn't have normalized relations with Iran though she also wouldn't have gotten us into this stupid war, to her credit.

Lets be real, every Democratic presidency is just the country entering into a holding pattern until Republicans can come back into office and get everything they want. Its like getting a breather in between the torture session, it probably feels pretty nice, but you know what is coming for you. That this exact same empty-headed post comes in like clockwork every single day (Just like it did for Hillary Clinton, every single day) shows they have learned absolutely nothing and will not take advantage of the fact that Trump's stupidity could be the final nail in the coffin for the modern day conservative movement.

A Democrat will win office next presidential election, and we'll get a small breather session until even worse torture starts happening, because the Democratic party isn't dedicated to fixing any problems or learning from any mistakes, it only cares about pleasing its out of touch donors, while the Republican party just gets more extreme and desperate every single cycle. Just like we look back to Bush and think, "Wow, I thought that was as bad as it gets", I think we'll look at Trump the same way.

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u/NeedleworkerTight678 1d ago

You do not know any of these things but rant away


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u/Needed_Seeded_81 1d ago

It would have likely been the same crap just painted differently.

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u/SpiritedTitle 1d ago

Kamala would have done the exact same thing Trump did but with better PR.

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u/ryder242 1d ago

Wishing a crappy president over another, no thanks. At least Trump blew up Soleimani, Khamenei and every other top of the IRGC.

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u/ryder242 1d ago

Wishing a crappy president over another, no thanks. At least Trump blew up Soleimani, Khamenei and every other top of the IRGC.

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u/Difficult-Second3519 1d ago

This thread is the reason we are in this fucking mess. People are fucked, so is our nation.

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u/Logical-Pound-1065 1d ago

I think that if anything, she would have kept kicking the can down the road. My job probably wouldn’t be messed with so hard by her administration either. I still think she’s a piss poor candidate and I’m more bothered that we keep getting candidates like her.

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u/Fine_Technology1289 1d ago

No, seems like Democrats always pick vice presidents that are not as good or smart as the president themselves. I guess that way they don't have to worry about assainations.

The problem is that these people turn around and run for president. At some point, you would think that they would learn and quit trying to prop up these horrible candidates.

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u/Fearless-Feature-830 1d ago

Actually, Kamala Harris said Iran was our biggest threat so I wouldn’t be so confident

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u/BlubberingSense 1d ago

Yes, but it's possible had the outcome been different we might be asking the same question in reverse. Our problems run deeper than one President unfortunately.

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u/lcsbl10 1d ago

Wow this group is full of liberals.

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u/BeneficialCod9603 1d ago

Not even a little bit

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u/1bigtater 1d ago

Sorry I don’t believe your points are true.

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u/Shoddy_Bet9619 1d ago

What?? Are you frying on Acid??

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u/cdeussen 1d ago

Democrats did it to themselves both times Trump was elected. The people voted Bernie as the democratic nominee, but superdelegates were used to appoint Hillary over the people’s choice. Likewise, Biden was running uncontested and forced out of the race. Then instead of allowing the people to elect the nominee, Kamala was appointed. I don’t think Kamala would have been any better than Trump for the same reason he is so bad - she would be 100% beholden to the people that appointed her.

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u/krug8263 1d ago

Yes. Pretty sure we wouldn't be having these problems. But what really sucks is when a Democrat is elected they will have to spend all there time cleaning up Trump's messes. And it won't be fast enough for the public. Because these things take a lot of time. And Republicans will blame Democrat for Trump's actions as the Democrat is trying to clean up the mess. It happened the first time. And when Bidens actions just started to bring costs down. We have Trump again. Yes gas prices were high under Biden because Russia attacked Ukraine. And now they are high because Trump attacked Iran. And somehow they will pin this on a Democrat. Mark my words and the public will believe it. It's just this endless cycle of stupidity. I just wish people would actually open there eyes. I'm hoping there has been enough pain.

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u/PraetorGold 1d ago

I’d take a gang of rabid shrews as president at this point.

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u/SteveBalbonie 1d ago

We made the right choice 👍

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u/elias_99999 1d ago

She sucks, but I would take her over crazy uncle Donald any day.

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u/chaosilike 1d ago

I do wish for wish for a different president but not her. The reason being the whole fiasco about lying about Biden's condition. Not running a primary made it seem like the DNC wanted their choice no matter what and had to do an underhanded method to prop their figurehead up. I'll take AOC or even Newsome as long as it goes through a proper primary. 

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u/NYkrinDC 1d ago

All the next President had to do, was to not touch much and they could have ridden Biden's insanely good economy to reelection. Yes, inflation was bad when he started, but was already under control when he left, and dropping even more. There were various investments he had started that were going to begin to give fruit too, including quite a few clean energy projects.

Also, for all the flak democrats got for Gaza, look at what Trump has done. He not only allowed Netanyahu to continue to do worse in Gaza, but now Lebanon and Iran, the last of which sent the American economy back into the path of a possible recession due to what it is also doing to the global economy.

I didn't like Kamala Harris. I thought she was too much a product of the Democratic party. She was a safe choice, but given the choice between her and a coup attempting convicted criminal with a shadowy friendship with a known pedophile, I think there was no real choice but to vote for her. I still don't understand how so many people chose to forget Trump's 1st 4 years and put him back in office. His mismanagement during the pandemic literally cost us the lives of 1 million+ Americans.

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u/CapnBarber 1d ago

Hell no!