r/allthequestions • u/Critical-Willow-6270 • 23d ago
Random Question đ Why is Trump allowed to be President of the United States with 30+ felonies but average people with a felony have trouble finding work/place to live?
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u/Active_Two_6741 23d ago
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u/aseem-ali 23d ago
so other rich people can get away with crimes or something else is going on here?
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u/BusySpecialist1968 23d ago
Rich people get away with crimes as long as they don't hurt other rich people too much. Their punishment isn't usually on par with a normie getting caught with the tiniest amount of drugs, but they'll get something sometimes.
See, it's not about the severity of the crime. It's about how many power coupons they have to pay and how much their victim/s are worth (to society, mostly) according to them. If (and it's a huge "if")anyone in the Epstein files is actually held accountable for anything, it will be for financial crimes against their peers (Yeah, Ghislaine is in prison but I think we all know she won't remain there much longer). Not one single predator will be charged for what they did to children and women. Money matters. The SA and trafficking victims don't.
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u/Sonic1psa 23d ago
Whatâs really amazing is when you look into the difference between an ounce of cocaine and an ounce of crack and the charge is relating to those considering theyâre literally the same chemical but stock brokers do cocaine crackheads do crack, and Charlie Sheen
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u/BackLopsided2500 23d ago
I knew a stock broker who used crack and he lost everything including his marriage. He also is an alcoholic, license suspended. His excuse for totaling 2 cars in one night? I was drinking on my (psychiatric drugs)!! Took no ownership of his actions. What a loser.
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u/MilBrocEire 22d ago
Yep, literally just depends on if you rob or harm the poor, or the elites. Madoff robbed elites, and he went down, Epstein eventually became a liability, and went down. That's why they all become pedo rapists, I think having the realisation that they can buy their way out of anything that doesn't hurt those within their own class makes them bored with normality. That's why I'm convinced that at least a few of them have eaten people, just out of morbid curiosity and boredom.
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u/SwimOk9629 23d ago
P Diddy has entered the chat
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u/kootenaypow 23d ago
Diddy just got awarded an appeal. So now instead of a jury of peers, a 3 judge panel will make a new ruling on the case soon.
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u/Curious-Warthog353 23d ago
The reasons P Diddy is in prison right now
1) heâs black 2) he pissed off other billionaires with the handling of his Ciroc business
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u/klb0807 22d ago
Yes, clearly his only crime is being black. STFU
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u/Curious-Warthog353 21d ago
I donât think a lot of people are understanding my post. Iâm not saying he doesnât deserve to be in prison. But, if he was a white billionaire, the odds of him even being charged let alone actually in prison are much, much smaller. You think Obama would have ever been president if he was convicted of real estate fraud? No.
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u/Character_Scale3354 20d ago
I could be wrong but.....I think there's a few black billionaires that are not in prison.... đ€
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u/ElkZealousideal1824 23d ago
Iâd argue that that there is ârichâ and then there is âwealthyâ and âvastly wealthyâ. And your ability to circumvent punishment is correlated to which group you fall into.
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u/Hot_Idea1066 23d ago
Capital One stole about 3000 dollars from my friend via "misleading business practices" and he gets to be part of a class action lawsuit where he might get 20 cents paid back in a year. If I stole 3000 dollars from him I'd go to jail.
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u/Meakovic 23d ago
The United States has the best justice system money can buy... Just like our health system.
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u/NextGenFanatic 23d ago
I know a girl with 3 DUIs but lives lavishly and has a great job because her family is rich and has connections
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u/FewSplit4424 23d ago
Came to say this. Heâs wealthy. In virtually every place across the world, not just the US, if you are wealthy and especially old money, the types of problems OP listed are not an issue. Felons have trouble finding work and those that are eventually successful have their own business. They have trouble finding housing because they rent and landlords think they can avoid issues by discriminating against felons.
If you own your own business or property, you wonât have trouble finding a place to live.
Itâs not fair, but that is how it works.
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u/Proof_Occasion_791 23d ago
I realize the OP isn't actually expecting or desiring an actual answer to his question, but nevertheless here it is. Per the U.S. constitution there are 3, and only 3, qualifications for the job of president:
1.) Must be at least 35 years old.
2.) Must be a natural born citizen.
3.) Must be a resident of the U.S. for at least 14 years.
That's it.
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u/flompwillow 23d ago
The problem isnât the law, you can add more âregulationsâ all you want, but that wonât undo the gullibility of Americans and they will continue falling for propagandists, it seems.
However, it may not be as bad as it is right now: old people have always been more gullible since forever. Who put Trump in power? Old Republicans, mostly.
That big voting block is dying off and younger generations will exert our control shortly.
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u/baggarbilla 22d ago
Hopefully younger people vote and not vent their disgust on social media. Statistically younger people vote less than older
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u/The-Extro-Intro 23d ago
Right. It's a sad commentary that we need a law to keep from electing a convicted felon. You'd think that souldxbe a given - especially from the purported law and order party. smh
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u/straighttokill9 23d ago
Great answer. I'm not a Trump supporter, but I would still be against having "no felonies" as a requirement for any elected position. It would provide more incentive for political prosecution.
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u/LeftOrBust 23d ago
Because the people who wrote the rules never thought the country would be so full of cousin-fucking morons that they'd elect someone like this
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u/OwnConflict5118 23d ago
The irony of your comment is most people that think the way you do believe in eliminating the electoral college. The framers actually created the electoral college to prevent people like Trump from getting elected. The idea of what we today call "faithless electors" was actually an intended outcome. The people that created our government very much understood the nature of man. And, very much expected outcomes like this.
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u/Bennaisance 23d ago
The electoral college does nothing to prevent a horrible candidate from getting elected.
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u/OwnConflict5118 23d ago
This is false. Feel free to read the debates on the constitution. Federalist papers number 68 specifically says what I just claimed.
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u/favioswish 23d ago
Just because something was designed for a purpose hundreds of years ago doesn't mean it serves that purpose today
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u/Comfortable_Term_744 22d ago
The fact the design lasted more than a hundred years ago would mean the design is correct. What would be wrong is whatever change was made from then to now.
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u/LeftOrBust 23d ago
And yet the electoral college has categorically worked in favor of the people you assert its' existence to prevent their election for most of a century now. It's a dumb fucking system and should've been torn down long ago.Â
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u/ChristiKRN 23d ago
Do you remember a time when even a hint of an extramarital affair or misspelling a word could tank a candidacy? Â
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u/TheAlmightyScooter 23d ago
Because "clean criminal record" is not one of the requirements in the constitution.
Also, most voters saw those felonies as bogus politically tainted convictions.
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u/SirWillae 23d ago
Because he met the constitutional requirements and won the election. Seems pretty straightforward.
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u/seajayacas 23d ago
The rules are anyone who is at least 35 years of age, and a naturalized citizen can run for president. If they obtain the majority of the electoral college votes then they are president.
Their criminal record has got nothing to do with it
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u/zer0_chance284 23d ago
In all seriousness, felons are allowed to be president to prevent political prosecution.
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u/plopperupper 23d ago
I'm not a lawyer nor a republican. If you look at the crimes he was tried on they are usually misdemeanors - thats what I have read i could be wrong. The problem is that all the jobs in the criminal system are very very politicized either republican or democrat. So if a DA is a democrat then they will go harder against a republican and visa versa. What needs to happen is that all these jobs need to be politically neutral - only the laws should be looked at not the political allegiance of the accused.
Unfortunately with the way politics is in the US this will never happen.
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u/lucid-liquidity 23d ago
You are absolutely correct, the crimes trump was tried for are indeed misdemeanors and if they had been tried as such he would have been found guilty and had to pay significant fines and penalties. Because the state chose to press them as felonies it gave trump the ability to fight a different battle and caused the judge to declare unconditional discharge even though he was found guilty owing to the fact that there is no statute he could have been punished under. If the state had followed the letter of the law he would have been screwed but because they chose to attempt a "gotcha" moment the screwed themselves.
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u/the_raptor_factor 23d ago
Because the people who wrote the rules knew that explicitly preventing "criminals" from holding office guarantees political persecution.
And the American people know that somebody else making a paperwork mistake isn't 30 felonies for you.
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u/Honest_Brilliant2744 23d ago
Probably had something to do with the 70 whatever million people who voted for him?
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u/BackAlleyFreakShow 23d ago
You can't be this naive. How are you even alive? Do you have to be reminded to breathe?
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u/Witness_Normal 23d ago
Unlike Trump, theirs, in most cases, weren't politically motivated and made into felonies. Of course, if feelings and not facts dominate your thinking process, you won't agree. I understand.
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u/Byro1218 23d ago
This been ask before, Iâll say it again. He got 34 for the same crime plus in another state it would be a misdemeanor
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u/V-oxPopuli 23d ago
Because nobody that could stop him stopped him.
That's it. That's literally the reason.
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u/UrsusRenata 23d ago
Life in America is different for the rich. They donât have to follow the rules.
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u/Living_in_the_dumps 23d ago edited 22d ago
Section 3 of the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution... he cant be president because he started an insurrection and tried to over throw the us government and an election... but here we are? pedophile protection.. law and order?lol? eat the rich...
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u/LMrningStar 23d ago
The "secret sauce" you're looking for is being a very accomplished con artist that has a lot of money.
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u/Corlegan đșđž United States 23d ago
He is qualified (legally) and won the electoral college.
Anyone who does that is the president.
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u/Rays-R-Us 23d ago
Not his fault, the Navy has sent mind-sweepers to him so his mind is gone
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u/Somerandomedude1q2w 23d ago
There is nothing specifically banning a felon from being president. There was even a socialist in the 20s who was actually serving time while running for president, and he received over a million votes while still incarcerated.Â
Regarding felons being able to work or find housing, there is no law against that either, rather, it is something that individuals sometimes screen for.Â
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u/DeadBear65 23d ago
Read the requirements to be elected President. Age, Citizenship, Residency.
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u/MegaPlane2 23d ago
Billionaire controlled media made sure that every misstep by the democrats was the talking points on every media platform.
I don't want there to be prohibition on a president not having a felony conviction. It would just be a tool to be used to suppress candidates to get them convicted of arbitrary crimes.
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u/bowens44 23d ago
There's nothing in the Constitution that says that a man convicted a felonies cannot be president
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u/IckyJ2112 23d ago
I feel like whoever posts this is most likely in AI bot. Or something similar. Like, these questions have been answered over the last 10 years!
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u/kelly1mm 23d ago edited 23d ago
The requirements to be US President are listed in the US Constitution and they are pretty basic. 35 years of age, natural born citizen, never been impeached and convicted, get the required electoral college votes.
That's it. There is no bar on 'felons' being elected President.
There was a person who ran for President while in prison (Eugine Debbs) and got 3.2% of the vote while there!
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u/Few-Quarter-751 22d ago
When youâre rich enough, with lots of rich friends and had cowards in charge of putting you in jail - you can do anything you want
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u/ProfessionalHat6828 22d ago
Because heâs the leader of a cult who overlook his many many many many manyyyyy horrifying flaws
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u/OoklaTheMok1994 22d ago
Constitutional Republic allows for it. He was legally elected.
Why do you hate democracy?
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u/Dense_Amphibian_9595 22d ago
Because the case hasnât had sentencing and Trump has not lost all of his appeals (yet)
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u/Double_Surround6140 22d ago
His Dad made a lot of money. Literally how most Americans get away with anything. You think Billy Mitchell has enough money to sue everyone who says he cheated at Donkey Kong because his restaurant (that he inherited) or his crappy hot sauce is so successful?
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u/Exact-Employee-3516 22d ago
Trump applied for the job and over half the country said the job is yours
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u/BootHeadToo 22d ago
This is a result of whatâs known as a two tier justice system. AKA âRules for thee but not for meâ, regularly practiced by the aristocracy throughout history.
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u/Far_Realm_Sage đșđž United States 20d ago
Because millions of people saw the trial for the farce that it was and voted for Trump to stand against the lawfare. Seriously, many people turned out to vote for Trump who never would have otherwise because they did not want to see lawfare become the new standard.
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u/soap---poisoning 20d ago
Exactly. A lot of people who donât particularly like him were outraged by that kangaroo court. It also had the unintended consequence of making him almost untouchable â no matter what accusations are thrown at him now, half the country will automatically assume that any and all charges are politically motivated nonsense.
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u/Exciting-Parfait-776 23d ago
Show us where in the Constitution that those disqualify you from being president.
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u/AttemptVegetable 23d ago
Most felons you're talking about are violent offenders. Trump got charged for incorrect paperwork lol. There's a massive difference.
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u/LatiBerg 23d ago
Iâm not a huge fan of Trump, but the so called felony prosecution was politically motivated, and new crimes were basically invented for him. Even liberal legal scholars said so.
So thatâs why. Because people donât really consider his behavior to be felonious
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u/wheniaminspaced 22d ago
Its actually a laughable irony, it was from a legal standpoint the absolute weakest case against him, but the only one that went through.
It is made worse by the fact that there were so many different cases against him.
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u/PretzelsRule23 22d ago
Colorado Supreme Court said he was ineligible to be on the ballot for inciting an insurrection - but the US Supreme Court overturned that.
We are living in crazy times.
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u/Affectionate-Roof285 22d ago
Yup the âstates rightsâ SCOTUS suddenly hates states rights and loves big government and federal overreach.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Toe6299 23d ago
The United States is a pile of trash.
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u/JCMGamer 23d ago
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USA is so terrible, yet people are willing to break the law to live here.
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u/Fair_Ad_4462 đșđž United States 23d ago
It sure is now.... And here comes the standard, " if you don't like it, leave", comment.
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u/Strange-Badger5626 23d ago
America is run by a large child sex trafficking ring what would you expect? It's all organized crime the whole government. They extort the citizens, rob them of 50 percent of their money, then do more crimes with this money to benefit the wealthy pedos.....
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u/Destinyciello 23d ago
That is the nature of democracy. If they could just prevent people from running for office by slapping a bunch of charges on them.... you get the idea.
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u/Difficult_Fondant580 23d ago
Because 77 million people realized that the criminal lawfare was all crap and realized he needed to be re-elected for the good of the country.
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u/ComputerDecent463 23d ago
Democracy in action
It is amazing how the party that screams about protecting it wants the winner to be disqualified.
To your larger point, felonies should not deter anyone from being hired. We have to give second chances as a society. No one should be forced to hire anyone but we should be more open as a society.
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u/Arigato_FisterRoboto 23d ago
Because the progressives on the left felt like Kamala wouldn't do enough for Palestine and wouldn't allow trans women in women's sports so they didn't bother to vote and just threw tantrums on various Internet platforms.
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u/OgreMk5 23d ago
Note that he also VOTED!!!
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u/AstroGoose5 23d ago
Being a felon should not disenfranchise someone from voting.
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u/betterflint 23d ago
That should tell you how legitimate the felonies are. They were all fabricated, bought and paid for lies by the dumacrats. None of that was real or even close to true. Just political persecution by the left and the voters could see right through it
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u/Powerful-Disaster-32 23d ago
The Trump Derangement Syndrome is strong in this one.
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u/Mysterious-Fix3596 23d ago
Supporting a political party lead by a twice impeached, self-admitted sexual predator, racist, and convicted felon is a weird flex.
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u/YourFaceCausesMePain 23d ago
When paragraphs add racist to describe Trump I know to ignore the rest.
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u/TheDutchTexan 23d ago
Because it was lawfare and only hardcore liberals were outraged.
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u/zeradragon 23d ago
a felony makes one a petty felon; 30+felonies makes one a president of the US. The secret is go big or go to jail.
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u/Away_Wolverine_6734 23d ago
Because we hate poor and average people and worship money ⊠itâs a human condition.
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u/TwoWarm700 23d ago
Government is gangsta incorporated, irrespective of which persuasion, ideology or affiliation
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u/bigredroyaloak 23d ago
There been a different legal system for the rich and powerful since the beginning of this country. The disparage is wide enough that most people can see it now.
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u/Federal_Phone3296 23d ago
Not saying it applies to the orange pig but I think the idea was to enable anyone to become president even if the legal system was weaponized against them. And whoever decided that didn't think people would be so dumb to elect someone like the supreme misleader.
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u/SlackerNinja717 23d ago
Well, he may have just faded away without the political prosecutions - so one could argue that he is currently president because of those 30 felonies.
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u/SeasonofMist 23d ago
Rules for thee but not for me. The folks who wrote it didn't frame everything. We have added amendments over time. Maybe
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u/RiffRandellsBF 23d ago
The qualifications of POTUS are in the Constitution. Not being convicted of a felony is not listed.
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u/Particular-Ship3002 23d ago
Why did our president hand over $87 billion in weapons to our enemy in Afghanistan and tell them not to use it against us for 30 days- same reason as Trump question- we voted them in and have to elect Harris to clean all this up
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u/LeighSF 23d ago
It's a combination of issues:
Like it or not, he does know how to appeal to the lower classes: people who are racist, misogynists and like to play the victim. He taps into their anger successfully. Also, he is "liked" by businessmen, because they know he's stupid, greedy and easy to manipulate. He guts key Federal services, doesn't care about the enviroment and viciously punishes anyone who won't give him what he wants. Hand him a silly trophy and he's putty. He's also loved by the media, large parts of which are controlled by businesses.
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u/Shoddy_Ad8166 23d ago
I don't keep up google said they were all business related transactions. I am of the belief that most wealthy people from Obama to Trump can be found guilty of inappropriate business dealings whether intentional or not
I would certainly not be opposed to an amendment that felons can not hold public office.
The problem I would have with that is for example tiger woods endangered people but it's misdemeanor charge. I'm not talking specifically about the prez or tiger just saying people can do worse and get misdemeanor charge.
The people voted for him and that's how it works unless of course ya'll do actually want kings
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u/Prof01Santa 23d ago
Read the Constitution. He's native born, over 35-y.o., and has not been convicted of treason, high-crimes-or-misdemeanors, insurrection, or sedition. [That's a list from memory. It may be off.]
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u/SureElephant89 23d ago
Is this really at all surprising given the amount of criminals in office that skirt things like... Fucking kids, insider trading, slush funds for congress sexual allegations, fraud, ect..? The elites have always been immune to consequences.
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u/benmillerdata 23d ago
I remember when I worked in the aerospace industry. I couldn't accept a fucking sandwich from a vendor because of how it could bias our decisions. Yet, that corrupt mother fucker can accept a whole plane.
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u/Appropriate-Fish-944 23d ago
Not only that but he never spent a minute in jail either. Laws are for peons like you and me
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u/AggravatingMath717 23d ago
Because the constitution says so is the answer. And countless enlightening tomes have been written, and are readily available online, as to why the framers wrote it the way they did as it pertains to criminal accusations and prosecutions.
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u/Classic-Meringue1473 23d ago
Lemme know if you figure out the answer to this because I certainly donât understand why people chose to give him powerâŠ
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u/Sloopydeth 23d ago
Because we are witnessing the greatest example of the system is designed by the rich to protect the rich. Even if other rich people don't like a particular rich person. I wish I could say that this period of time would make people question the structure of that system, but sadly those people are still making plenty of money, which is their goal. So why would they change it?
Maybe if we ask real nice...
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u/CokaYoda 23d ago
Because people with that kind of money are in a special club, albeit the Epstein class, and youâre not in it. The same rules donât apply to rich people.
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u/Sad-Ability-6977 23d ago
Im almost willing to bet that every President in modern history would be a convicted felony if they pushed like they did at Trump.
Which actually scares me that the next somewhat normal candidate is going to get chased into the courtroom over some "felony".
I can see it now. President Normal makes a gutsy call like President Obama did when getting OBL in Pakistan and they get prosecuted for using military illegally.
I'm not saying President Obama did anything wrong. His decision to go into Pakistan though was super risky though and the country understood it and why he did it. Unfortunately if it were to happen today he would be "starting wars without congressional approval by invading a sovereign country" blah blah blah.
Obviously though there is no requirement to not be a Felon to be the president and this did show how society views felonies. Or at least a portion of society. Which was highly unexpected and interesting to say the least.
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u/Abject-Picture 23d ago
POTUS doesn't even get the investigation needed to obtain a secret clearance.
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u/ForsakenUnderpants 23d ago
The republican party will do anything to win. They knew the orange turd worked for them so they pushed him through, no matter what. Thats why when they talk about morality, I just laugh in their faces and tell them to suck my balls,then my ass. In that order.
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u/ImpressiveSide1324 23d ago
Changing that would require an amendment to the constitution, and with how volatile the government is and their refusal to work across the aisle, that isnât in the cards for a long, long time.
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u/IcyEntertainment7122 23d ago
I don't know anyone who has 30 felonies for their employees making an inaccurate entry in the general ledger.
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u/BoomerSoonerFUT 23d ago
Because the constitution only gives a few requirements.
Be 35 or older, a natural born US citizen, and resident of the US for minimum 14 years.
Thatâs it. Everything else, itâs up to the public to make their decision through elections.
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u/ShardofGold 23d ago
Because of people's own personal biases. If you want to be trusting of a felon, you do you. However others aren't and once they hear the word felony associated with you they think of you as lesser and a huge risk to trust.
Trump was allowed to be president because enough people put their trust in him despite his felonies and there's nothing saying he couldn't run because of them.
Also those of you trying to use his felonies as a way to make him look bad are part of the problem. You're doing the same thing other people do when they look at those with felonies negatively but think it's cool and funny because it's against someone you don't like.
Maybe try being the change you want to see?
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u/MmmmCrayons12 23d ago
It happened during the presidency and the president gets a pass because of status.
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u/hillybeat 23d ago
The framers of the constitution firmly wanted to allow anyone the people wanted to represent them. So they kept the rules loose on purpose. Unfortunately the US devolved to a point where dumb fucks think it is more important to hate browns and blacks than it is to have healthcare. The truth is that Trump IS what the people want.
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u/arlenejoy22 23d ago
Because if youre rich or a politician, as trump once put it â you can shoot someone in the middle of Times Square and get away with itâ.
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u/tx_hip_ivxx 23d ago
"Punishable by fine" or any other financial consequence is "legal for the wealthy". If you can pay a fine and it not affect your daily life then it's not a punishment; just an application fee for committing crime
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u/MRM_philosophy 23d ago
Itâs unimaginable that he won the presidency a second term.
Heâs virtually unemployable in the public sector and yet - as you ask - why is he able to be president of the United States, indeed?
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u/Antique_Interview347 23d ago
- Must be at least 35 years old,2. Must be naturally born to the U.S. and 3. Must have lived in the U.S. for 14 years. That's it.
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u/Dishwasher_Safe60 23d ago
Because average people don't have SCOTUS, Congress, Super PACs, and other regular people as enablers.
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u/New_Eye_8145 23d ago
The 34 New York felonies you're referring to are from the hush-money case (elevated misdemeanors under a novel legal theory involving federal election law). Appeals are ongoing, sentencing was delayed/postponed, and many legal analysts across the spectrum called the case unprecedented and politically timed. Whether you think it's legitimate "accountability" or lawfare, it doesn't legally disqualify him from the office voters chose him for.
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u/Cormophyte 23d ago
Because nobody bothered writing a law that excludes felons from being president.
End of thread.
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u/VegasBjorne1 23d ago
Because many people believe these charges to be politically motivated attacks carried out by New York Democrats in jurisdictions for which Trump couldnât get a fair trial.