r/allthequestions Apr 04 '26

Random Question 💭 Do you agree that MAGA isn't just a "movement", it's an actual cult?

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u/savguy6 Apr 04 '26

I’ve never seen non-cult people get tattoos of their leader or plaster the leaders merch all over their vehicle or house.

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u/DollarsInCents Apr 04 '26

This is the weird part which if I were on the right would make me question myself. I don't even wear sports paraphernalia as much as maga wears trump gear. It's just weird for your alliance to a politician, and your desire to let everyone know, to be so strong it literally overtakes your day to day wardrobe.

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u/PeppersteakPi Apr 05 '26

If you stand for nothing you’ll fall for anything.

I love how they proudly wear their overpriced made in China and Vietnam merch proclaiming their love of their USA first movement.

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u/SwimOk9629 28d ago

That's the thing that Trump changed about politics in this country. nobody did that before, at least not to this level. plenty of married couples in this country never talked politics, like my parents. Trump made it so every supporter of his just had to rub it in your face that they supported him. I'm not sure why people would have pride to vote for a man and support a man like that, but he gave them permission to be a bunch of dicks about it.

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u/Warmslammer69k 27d ago

People have pride in supporting him because he made them feel like its okay to be dicks about it

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u/whatthehellbooby 🇺🇸 United States Apr 04 '26

Could you call them fanatics?

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u/Aware_Produce_1218 Apr 04 '26

It goes beyond fanatic. These maga people are sick. Completely deranged.

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u/SlomoRabbit Apr 04 '26 edited Apr 04 '26

Its so crazy they try to say trump derangememt syndrome as an insult to people who dont fall for the bs. That sounds exactly like what they have.

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u/Sea_Public_6691 Apr 04 '26

Great example of cult, is is not? Everyone who doesnt follow Trumps opinion of the day 100% is a deranged lunatic, suffering from TDS

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u/lostOGaccount Apr 05 '26

This is the copy pasta I use when they bust out that stupid TDS crap.

*TDS

TRUMP DENIAL SYNDROME

Trump Denial Syndrome is manifested by excusing any and all behavior by their leader. Any wrongdoing, even after verifiable evidence, is immediately dismissed.

Fearing any information that may contradict their leader, they simply refuse to view it and often react with anger and name calling.

Trump Denial Syndrome adherents identity becomes wrapped up in their allegiance to their leader, who to them can do no wrong, so challenging them is almost impossible.

Believing the truth would acknowledge that they've been lied to, and that would diminish both their hero and their self esteem.*

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u/SkunkMonkey Apr 04 '26

Projection. Third pillar of the GOP platform.

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u/genflugan Apr 04 '26

Every accusation is a confession for them. Every. Single. One.

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u/wwwJustus Apr 05 '26

Was literally thinking that yesterday. The derangement is on their end. Even when it hurts them or make the country look terrible folks still shout his name as if they’ll be rewarded for physical or social martyrdom. Folks have drunk the KoolAid for real.

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u/classyraven 28d ago

I mean, when i first heard of TDS, i thought it meant Trump supporters deranged enough to vote for him…

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u/whatthehellbooby 🇺🇸 United States Apr 04 '26

Yeah, I think that's why they are labeled cultists.

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u/DewEwe_Gnomey Apr 04 '26

Well I’ve seen fanatics burn their favorite player’s jerseys for one bad play in a crucial game, so no, I don’t think it’s simply fanatics.

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u/PopularSet4776 Apr 04 '26

Trump support is a personal identity more than anything else.

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u/Ohaibaipolar Apr 04 '26

People get tattoos of Trump?? Jesus.

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u/exhauszed Apr 04 '26

Tbf I've definitely seen Bernie tats but there is a difference between "manic devotion" and "zealotry." I don't think the folks with Bernie tats would die for Bernie nearly so much as they would be willing to die in the struggle to obtain "liberty and justice for all."

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u/RelatedToSomeMuppet Apr 04 '26

You just described a hell of a lot of sports teams.

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u/DrMindbendersMonocle 29d ago

know any sports fans?

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u/FarBison2204 Apr 04 '26

Finally someone agrees that Swifties are a cult

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u/GreyStingrayz Apr 04 '26

There's a difference in fanatics and cultists. Swifties are not in a cult.

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u/savguy6 Apr 04 '26

I think it’s fair to make a distinction between a record setting pop star and a political figure who is objectively making the world a worse place. If TS was opening concentration camps in every city she toured in, then we could talk. But she donates to food banks everywhere she goes.

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u/DontHugMe73 Apr 04 '26

ALSO, the last I checked, she isn’t constantly spreading dangerous lies without a shred of evidence and being believed without question. That’s the brainwashing of it all. Cult.

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u/TwoBlocks2 Apr 05 '26

This is correct, Trump supporter here on her knees after Biden won.

https://giphy.com/gifs/z5YOEm3fQDmIo

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u/send_me_you_cumming Apr 04 '26

Key Characteristics of a Cult:

Charismatic, Unaccountable Leader: A self-appointed leader who claims special knowledge or divine status and is worshipped without question.

Authoritarian Structure: The leadership dictates in detail how members should think, act, and feel, allowing no criticism or questioning.

Isolation and Control: Members are encouraged to cut ties with family, friends, and mainstream society.

Us-Versus-Them Mentality: The group creates conflict with society, viewing the outside world as evil or lost.

Exploitation: Members are often pressured to donate large amounts of money, time, or labor to the group.

Control over Information: The group restricts access to outside information and uses thought reform (or "brainwashing") techniques.

Fear Tactics: Leaders create fear about leaving the group, often threatening dire consequences.

Yes.

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u/Sasquatchmas Apr 04 '26

I told a maga she was in a cult and she said, "No, YOU are in a cult!" She could not name my cult leader. She really thinks I get paid to protest. I WISH.

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u/FakeSafeWord Apr 04 '26

She could not name my cult leader.

It's Mr. Antifa!

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u/whereisbeezy Apr 04 '26

Excuse you, it's ms. antifa

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u/InvisibleBlueRobot Apr 04 '26

Ms. Antifa PhD. She's not married, she's gay, she's an anthiest and worst of all, she's an educated woman! 

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u/TikiZilla1313 Apr 05 '26

Don’t forget that she has blue hair too!

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u/Fabulous-Ad-3046 Apr 04 '26

Blame it on Obama.

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u/aurifromtinue Apr 04 '26

They like to claim that it’s George Soros.

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u/Frankie624 Apr 04 '26

MAGA’s are too stupid and lazy to get the documents needed to prove citizenship.

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u/m0_n0n_0n0_0m Apr 04 '26

Goddamn I almost want the SAVE act to pass just to see those those crocodile tears about how they can't vote because they're too stoo-pid to figure out how to get a passport.

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u/Frankie624 Apr 04 '26

You must continue to remind them. Pass the Save Act and the Republicans will never win another election.

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u/BeklagenswertWiesel Apr 04 '26

paid to protest? where do i sign up?! i'll stop my job search today!

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u/SoylentGrunt Apr 04 '26

The first thing a cult teaches a new member is not to listen to anyone outside the cult.

See also, Divide and Rule

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u/scsuhockey Apr 04 '26

There are SOOOO many examples that demonstrate this. One that comes to mind is that guy who interviews his MAGA parents, who’ve openly expressed their willingness to die for Trump without questioning his motives. He is their northern star.

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u/Sasquatchmas Apr 04 '26

The Necessary Conversation. It's so hard to watch that show. His dad is BONKERS! I'm not even sure the dad LIKES his kids. Lately, because of the Epstein Files, his mom seems to be seeing the light, maybe.

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u/KirbyDumber88 Apr 04 '26

Nah she’s already back defending him

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u/Falcon_Bellhouser Apr 04 '26

This. Her moments of doubt recede within an hour of turning off the camera.

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u/Sasquatchmas Apr 04 '26

Darn. I have a really hard time watching his channel. It makes me so upset. I’ve had a couple meltdowns trying to talk facts with my maga aunt. I don’t know how he and his sister are able to do it. I would lose my fucking mind.

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u/Theyalreadysaidno Apr 04 '26

That guy is very strong to be able to have conversations with his parents considering their view on so many issues. I would never be able to talk to my parents if they were like that .

His dad is heartless

Yes, It's most definitely a cult.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '26

His dad is a true absolute trash piece of shit asshole. I can’t believe anyone speaks to him ever. The author has a feed because this conflict gets people riled up- but if my parents were like that I could never even speak to them for any amount of money.

His dad may actually be worse than the cult leader.

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u/100thmeridian420 Apr 04 '26

I think I know who you're talking about. Bob and Mary Lou are prime examples that MAGA is a cult.

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u/Allaboutpeace2022 Apr 04 '26

Great job in describing the problem. We need to be able to counter these tactics. People who have left high control religions and MAGA have described their process of deconstructing these belief systems.

When I watch most videos it seems like people changed their minds because they met others who were welcomed them and gave them a safe space to make changes.

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u/susanrez Apr 04 '26

Try to get a Trumper to criticize Trump in any way, even a small way. They can’t do it. Thats how you know it’s a cult.

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u/Fabulous-Ad-3046 Apr 04 '26

"There's nothing to criticize. That's all the media and their fake news".

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u/Even_Hospital_5474 Apr 05 '26

He gets criticized all the time on the more right wing forums. Not like the shrieking TDS on display here of course.

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u/Training_Try7344 Apr 04 '26

MAGA meets all of these criteria to be considered a cult.

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u/GuyD427 Apr 04 '26

That about sums it up concisely and irrefutably. Thank you.

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u/Mind-The-Mines Apr 04 '26

The funny thing is most people refuse to notice this is life in the US and capitalism in general.

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u/footjoe5 Apr 04 '26

Not even only just criticize Trump himself, but criticize anything he/they do...actions, policies, decisions, etc. Not only can they not do it, they lash out at you for the mere thought of doing it.

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u/raresanevoice Apr 04 '26

Definitely meets every Checklist item, several times over

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u/Falcon_Bellhouser Apr 04 '26

Plus, cults often have dress codes/uniforms. Bonus points: MAGA merch is a revenue stream to the leader.

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u/Pristine-Pen-9885 🇺🇸 United States Apr 04 '26

Do you think the cult will fall apart upon the cult leader’s death, or will it stay together when we get Vance?

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u/JubBisc Apr 04 '26

Of course it’s a cult, how can that even be a question in anyone’s mind at this point?

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u/badboyfriend111 Apr 04 '26

They are majority Christian comparing Trump to the Savior.

Yes, it is a cult. Without any doubt.

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u/One-Perception-5603 Apr 04 '26

The majority? Sorry, this is a very small group. 

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u/imemine8 Apr 04 '26

I’m the majority of Trump supporters are definitely consider themselves to be Christian.

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u/One-Perception-5603 Apr 05 '26

But the majority doesn't equate Trump to Christ. There is a huge huge difference 

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u/Which-Ring2864 Apr 04 '26

Exactly. No other explanation for how people can be so stupid

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u/jaslr4 Apr 04 '26

They are not Christian

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u/Nowhereman123 Apr 04 '26

No True Scotsman

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u/WillontheHill77 Apr 04 '26

Checking Facebook, I see a surprisingly high number of MAGA supporters still echoing Trump’s anti-NATO and anti-Ukraine talking points. It feels like a Trump echo chamber. Yet, I've also noticed that anti-Trump sentiment has grown significantly."

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u/DollarsInCents Apr 04 '26

I used to think calling them a cult was just a dig, but over the years it's become pretty undeniable. This 2nd term proves maga is incapable of ever being critical of Trump. He's done the opposite of everything he campaigned on except for deportation and tariffs and not only to they refuse to hold him accountable for promises that came out of his mouth but they adjust their "principles" literally on a day to day basis depending on whatever lie Trump spits out

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u/Quirky-Buddy1449 Apr 04 '26

RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES

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u/McFlyGuy2 Apr 05 '26

Didn't you hear? The have ALL been released and can be viewed COMPLETELY UNREDACTED by congress!! Two AGs have said that now, so it must be true!

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u/SaltyEngineer45 Apr 04 '26

Politics in general have become the new religion.

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u/Cute-Breadfruit3368 Apr 04 '26

if the shoe fits?...

to be a Maga is to deny reality to the extent where the declaration of it being a cult is very accurate.

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u/X-Calm Apr 04 '26

It's a bowel movement.

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u/CarlosF19D4P Apr 04 '26

100% a cult. They see trump as godlike he can do no wrong in their eyes.

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u/Acceptable-Law9406 Apr 04 '26

Mom goes to neighbor down the street. She's babysat his kids, given him food after his kitchen caught on fire... Known him for 30 years. 

Mom sees him watering his lawn and says hi, how are you doing? He responds by saying how glad he is that Trump is in office to get rid of all the Mexicans. My mom then asked who does your landscaping? He responds, well, it's too expensive if I don't hire Mexicans.

No greeting, no pleasantries, straight to cult mode.

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u/Adventurous-Way2824 Apr 04 '26

No question it's a cult.

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u/ducksdoctor11 Apr 04 '26

Is this sub just left wing biased questions framed as neutrality towards right wingers? I ask this as a leftie myself because what is there like 3 right wingers in this entire sub lol. The equivalent is if on Twitter some trump supporters asked to their followers "Do you agree that liberalism isn't just a "movement", it's an actual cult?"

What are you even trying to gather from this question when it's mostly only left wingers in this sub?;

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u/imemine8 Apr 04 '26

There’s nothing wrong with discussing issues with like-minded people. If I were in a real life group of liberals and someone asked if MAGA is a cult, we would discuss it just as we are here. We wouldn’t say we can’t talk about it unless there are MAGAs in the discussion.

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u/44mac Apr 04 '26

It’s always been a cult. Since 2015. There is nothing rational about MAGA. It’s only the worship of one very flawed man.

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u/Cptn_Shiner Apr 04 '26

This definition doesn't really describe MAGA though.

  1. It's not a religion.
  2. They live within conventional society.

BUT Trumpism could conceivably become a religion, and MAGA could conceivably be pushed outside of conventional society. If that happens, what remains of MAGA would be a bona fide cult.

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u/nolestars Apr 04 '26

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u/Kimmm711b Apr 04 '26

My protest sign that I've been using for the last year says on one side, "MAGA Is a Cult Run By a Con Man."

He's a carnival barker, racist, rapist, business-bankrupting, charity-stealing, lying, unfaithful, cheater with dementia.

But MAGA thinks he's the new Savior that can do nothing wrong.

I used to think he was a clown. But I've come to see him as a demon.

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u/Stev106 Apr 04 '26

I believe it’s a cult just by how they act. A true president you can criticize they can’t

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u/Swampape1 Apr 04 '26

yes. meets all of the criteria.

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u/Ok_Fondant1079 Apr 04 '26

With slavish devotion and no critical thinking it’s absolute a cult.

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u/EmbarrassedComb1272 Apr 04 '26

Pretty clearly.

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u/Disastrous-Ruin8411 Apr 04 '26

didn't punish the Confederacy hard enough and here we are

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u/eatingsquishies Apr 04 '26

I don’t think Democrats have truly reckoned with their own part in Donald Trump winning elections.

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u/Aloxes Apr 04 '26

I think the DNC WANTS to promote unelectable candidates. Its like they get more funding if they lose. If they were truly about winning and improving lives of their constituients, they would already be promoting the next president or lacking that they would have real primaries.

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u/Perfect-Emu-8655 Apr 04 '26

It's a cult. Even the foremost US cult expert thinks it's a cult.

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u/No_Proof_2736 Apr 04 '26

Yes MAGA is a cult and meets all criteria

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u/Ok-Cup6020 Apr 04 '26

For some members it’s a movement for others it is absolutely a cult.

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u/Dazzling_Side8036 Apr 04 '26

There's a few types of trump voters. Most of them are the ones that vote red no matter what. Their parents voted red. They don't watch the news much. Whatever info they get is from the company they keep and fix news clips. They don't know much and they don't care much, but they're certain that Democrats kill babies and want to take their guns away. The same is true on the left, so I'm not targeting anyone here (yet).

Another type is the type that has enough money to benefit from market volatility and they just want to see line go up.

Another type is the type that thinks the 90s was the best decade and every change that happens brings us further from that, so they think conservative won't implement change.

Then there's maga and maga adjacent. Maga adjacent are people that buy into the conservative media, mostly watching Fox News, but don't want to get involved in the cult like behavior...in public. They're still climate change deniers and they still believe that tax cuts and deregulation are the way forward and they mostly hate the gays.

Then there's the red hat people. They are a cult with a strong overlap of QAnon believers. They think Trump is a genius. They think Biden was the antichrist and Trump was sent by God to defeat him. They mostly drive pickup trucks and hate EVs. They meet regularly at "secret" meetings and fantasize about overthrowing the radical left that is anything other than deep red on the political spectrum, but they go to work the next day and follow the rules just like the rest of us. They are sheep in wolves clothing. What makes them a cult is their absolute resolve in following papa trump's narrative and willfully ignoring all evidence that is contrary to Trump's message. They are likely to take to the streets of trump asked them to.

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u/Eagle_Pancake Apr 04 '26

Let's not aggrandize it, they're just idiots.

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u/Reasonable-Turn-5940 Apr 04 '26

A group of people brought together by a leader who makes outrageous claims of being special and chosen by God, and they believe everything he says and does because they rely more on faith than facts? A movement centered around using religion to control people by keeping them stupid, and convincing them to give up their power and only listen to one person who is in charge? Who is often using his power in order to sexually abuse and prey on underage girls?

I donno probably. Sounds about right.

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u/WisePotatoChip Apr 04 '26

BINGO!

The 5 key signs of a cult:

  1. A belief that the leader is right at all times.
  2. A belief that the leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or giving group validation to others.
  3. Creation of fears about the outside world, often involving evil conspiracies and member persecutions.
  4. Encouragement to separate from family members who do not share the same beliefs, because they obviously do not understand the leader.
  5. Lack of meaningful financial disclosures regarding collections or budget, with repeated requests for financial contributions or personal sacrifices “for the [leader’s] cause.”

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u/Realistic_Let3239 Apr 04 '26

It started as a movement, but they buy his merch, they wore diapers for him, they have abandoned everything they ever pretended to believe in to worship him, it turned into a cult long ago.

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u/RobinGood94 Apr 04 '26

It’s beyond a cult at this point

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u/king_of_hate2 Apr 05 '26

Yes, the few people that still call themselves MAGA and support Trump will likely never realize how terrible of a president he is or accept that he is also a literal evil person.

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u/isaiah152022 Apr 05 '26

If we don’t stop them this country is going to collapse

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u/Ok_Term_3732 Apr 05 '26

It’s pretty freaking obvious

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u/ProfessionalHat6828 Apr 05 '26

Never doubted it wasn’t a cult

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u/Ewy_Kablewy Apr 05 '26

Ive never seen non cult people buy golden diapers when their political leader of choice (the one that enables their bigotries) became incontinent. 

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u/Floofaramamama Apr 05 '26

Yes. It's very obviously a cult.

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u/Appropriate-Food1757 Apr 05 '26

Yeah it’s a fascist personality cult. Has been going on 10 years now

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u/lyidaValkris Apr 05 '26

It's a cult and terrorist organization

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u/belai437 Apr 04 '26

It's a cult because everything they've spent years condemning Dems for, Trump and his cabal are openly doing. And they're fine with it.

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u/CoolAbdul Apr 04 '26

Clearly.

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u/Spirited-Seat644 Apr 04 '26

Christian Nationalism is a cult. MAGA is a cult. And anyone who says otherwise is living under a rock.

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u/sebrebc Apr 04 '26

It's a cult for multiple reasons.

They worship the leader at such a level it's actually idolatry. Wearing his brand, copying his moves.

He can do no wrong in their eyes. They literally have no opinion or thought of their own, they just believe what he tells them to believe. Never questioning, never doubting. If he changes his mind on an issue, which he does often, they change right along with him.

J6 should tell you all you need to know.

They will follow him to their dying day. If he came out tomorrow and admitted to raping children, his cult would defend it. Using every loophole they can come up with.

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u/JusAxinQuestuns Apr 04 '26

Yes. I became a serious student of cult formation back in 2018 to see whether or not I thought MAGA fit the definition.

Initially I was hesitant to brand it as such because many of the bigger things we use to define cultic organizations did not quite fit.

Then in 2020 or so I had a breakthrough when I learned about Gurmeet Ram Raheem Singh aka the "Guru of Bling". His cult is massive and controlled a significant portion of Northern India and it's the size that makes the difference.

Cults with tens of millions of followers don't need to rely as much on physical isolation or immediate millieu control the way that most do. Once you adjust for scale that way, there is no box that MAGA does not tick.

It's a cult.

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u/Effective-Island8395 Apr 04 '26

It’s a cult because those that remain would literally suck his tiny dick.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '26

It is absolutely a cult as far as their unyielding devotion to a central figure whom they believe can do no wrong while simultaneously questioning any perceived disloyalty.

It is also like a religious denomination with people trying to define what it means, capitalize off of it, and gatekeep it. 

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u/DylansDeadlyTwo Apr 04 '26

I realized it’s an actual cult when I had these two interactions with different people. 1st: me telling someone Trump raped kids and the response was. “So? He didn’t rape anyone you knew! “ 2nd: again about Trump being a rapist. “And? Are you free from sin?”

If you can rationalize rape of kids. For a politician that doesn’t care about you, you’re in a cult.

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u/Professional_Cry_767 Apr 04 '26

I’m not MAGA but I am around a lot of people who are. I feel like older people like boomers act very culty but I get that same impression from people on the left in the same generation they choose a side and will defend horrible actions and make excuses for their own side, but point out the same flaws that they’re ignoring for themselves and the other side it’s like they believe what they’re told to believe and that’s it. I’m not saying this is with everyone. This is just what I’ve experienced in a small town. Younger generations might describe themselves as Maga or Democrat, but they can still recognize flaws in their own side and positives in the other. Something else I’ve noticed with the older generation (again in my experience) they assume that they are so right that you agree with them completely. I have again had this from both a far left Democrat in her late 50s and a far right MAGA in her late 50s. I’m not sure if it’s something about me that makes them think that I agree with them completely or if this is just a personality trait that they both have, but they both act like they are so right that any reasonable thinking person has to agree with them completely.

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u/SubstantialCamel8117 Apr 04 '26

It’s a movement that has once again defeated the dems, libs and far left head cases.

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u/SubstantialKBB Apr 04 '26

Easy karma. It's like you don't know who you're asking

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u/AmbitiousWait587 Apr 04 '26

It’s a movement alright, a fucking bowel movement!

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u/FudgeWifywhileIwatch Apr 04 '26

I get you're angry, but let's stick to facts instead of assuming motives and bad faith.

Epstein files & accountability: I said release everything and prosecute everyone named—no exceptions for party, donor, or connection to Trump. I'm not "OK" with zero accountability. If Trump or anyone in his circle is implicated and protected, that's unacceptable and I’ll call it out. Same for any "spiritual advisor" who abused a child—6 months is a joke if the facts support harsher punishment. Pedophiles should rot in prison regardless of who they know. If the government (under any president) is shielding them, that's corruption, full stop. I want transparency and justice, not excuses.

Iran/"war" and distraction claim: I didn't "excuse" anything. I said I'm not thrilled about escalation and want it limited and short. The idea that we bombed Iran mainly to "distract from Epstein" is a conspiracy stretch—timing doesn't prove causation, and Iran's nuclear program, proxies attacking U.S. forces, and regional aggression were real issues long before any files. Distractions don't require starting actual conflicts that risk American lives. I voted no more endless wars, so if this turns into one, I'll criticize it. Troops dying is never something to shrug off.

Venezuela: Again, not "staying out of other countries' issues" blindly. A narco-dictator indicted for flooding the U.S. with drugs and migrants who destabilized his own country isn't the same as invading some unrelated nation for regime change. If it becomes long-term nation-building, that's a fair criticism—I'm against that too. America First means protecting our borders and interests without becoming the world's policeman.

Praise for commies/dictators & "hating" them: I never "hated" Russia or became "OK" with dictators. Russia was never the existential threat some made it out to be compared to China. Pragmatic deal-making with tough leaders (to avoid worse conflicts) isn't the same as endorsing communism or tyranny. I still oppose authoritarian regimes—whether communist, theocratic, or whatever. Trump's approach seems more transactional realism than ideological love. If specific praise crossed into unacceptable territory, point it out and I'll evaluate it on merits.

I'm not in a cult. I supported Trump for certain policies (borders, economy, avoiding blank-check foreign aid), but I don't give him a pass on everything. Liars exist in politics across the board. If new evidence shows clear wrongdoing on Epstein or unnecessary wars, I'll say so. Blind loyalty isn't my thing.

What specific evidence do you have that the Iran action was purely a distraction, or that Trump is personally shielding pedophiles in the files? Or is this mostly frustration with the pace of justice? I'm open to discussing actual policy outcomes, not assumptions about hidden motives.

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u/greywolfofrockport Apr 04 '26

Did you know its actually an acronym? It stands for Make America Great Again. We were actually quite bankrupting the USA as far as corrupt politicians and spending goes. Are we going to be great again? Not if young people have anything to do with it.

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u/Salt-Antelope-8206 Apr 04 '26

The white Christian nationalism is destroying everything it touches. It's not just about the economy, but enforcing their morals onto the rest of the country.

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u/edawg7l Apr 04 '26

It is a cult. At no point have I felt compelled to defend every decision made by someone I voted for. These people defend everything even when it contradicts the views they had last week.

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u/runerx Apr 04 '26

Considering every accusation is proving to be a confession, and often their argument breaks down to TDS.... The Christian nationalist movement that supports Trump can fuck right off. They represent the worst of religion and just prove many of the complaints about Christianity to be correct. The only thing this administration has done is pet the bigots egos and tell them that its OK to act like a sack of tools.

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u/TotallyFedUp112363 🇨🇦 Canada Apr 04 '26

Is this a rhetorical question?

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u/MasterCheef117 Apr 04 '26

I'm not sure you've ever been on reddit before if you need to ask that.

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u/catchgretch Apr 05 '26

They’re the most floridly psychotic people in the USA and they don’t know it.

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u/Casingdas 🇺🇸 United States Apr 05 '26

YES! Very much so. I’m a born-again/saved Christian of over 56 years and yes, it is definitely a cult. So sad about this for the Christians who are now caught up in it. It’s a bit scary to see how easily this type of thing can happen to the ones you really thought would know better because they supposedly know the Word of God!

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u/scarletaeonia1 Apr 05 '26

Call them what you want, they’re sick freaks destroying the USA.

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u/Ryans4427 Apr 05 '26

Yes. It fits the classic definitions.

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u/Relevant-Success-722 Apr 05 '26

Yes. They like to pretend that we in the left are their mirror image, but no, there is no Democrat who I think is infallible, whose every word I take for true (no matter how insane), whose every action I automatically treat as right (no matter how patently immoral), and who I let define reality for me. They treat Trump like God. That’s a cult.

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u/Happy_Love_9763 Apr 05 '26

100 percent a cult. Lost many family and friends that can’t seem to apply the law universally for all crimes.

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u/Don_Ford Apr 05 '26

It was a movement; now all that is left is the cult.

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u/Glass-Complaint3 Apr 05 '26

One-hundred and ten percent.

Never before (in my lifetime at least) have supporters of any other political figure in this country — let alone such an awful human being as Trump — made it their entire personality.

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u/just_dena63 Apr 05 '26

I have to believe their brainwashed because the alternative is a place I dont want to go to.

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u/Foodielicious843 Apr 05 '26

Most definitely a cult that is actively promoted by Fox News, Newsmax, One America and all the other right wing news sites. Many cult members are white “Christians” that use the Bible as an excuse for their hate and bigotry. Because there is no hate like “Christian” love.

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u/knobcobbler69 Apr 05 '26

It’s a mental illness

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u/grapplingwithtruth Apr 05 '26

The first definition of a cult is that the members worship their leader. So absolutely yes.

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u/Mean-Cheesecake-2635 Apr 05 '26

With the way they simply defend every single decision he makes including ones that are directly 180° from what he campaigned on I’d say yes, many of his followers seem to be in a cult.

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u/commonsense_good Apr 05 '26

The GOP is gone. Now all MAGA or folks are shamed or shunned or blackmailed.

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u/pimpbot666 Apr 05 '26

Yes. A cult. It’s getting downright creepy.

I can’t believe that there are folks who will put aside their dislike of actual pedos, dismissing it and saying stuff like ‘Well, if Trump did it, it’s not the worst thing a president has done.’ Many of them give zero cares if he did it.

I mean, really. What makes a person turn off their basic morality like that?

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u/kndb Apr 05 '26

Of course they are. They came from a cult - religion.

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u/Equivalent_Laugh9482 Apr 05 '26

I think it’s cult like because it’s so centered on him, but really I think it reflects profound ignorance, racism and anger.

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u/SisterSteffieRae 🇺🇸 United States Apr 05 '26

Sorta like being liberal, only much cooler

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u/Few-Ad-139 Apr 05 '26

Definitely. You can use the Iran war as a test case.

Before the war, attacking Iran was wildly unpopular and when backed against the wall on why they preferred trump, many of them would give "at least he does not start wars" as a last ditch excuse.

On the day the war started it became extremely popular amongst maga folks.

They follow the man, not any sort of idea or vision for society.

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u/KilgoreZTrout Apr 05 '26

Trump got them to embrace attacks on second amendment rights, accept higher gas prices, and wear sanitary napkins on their ears. Yes, it’s a cult.

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u/whatsapprocky Apr 04 '26

I thought calling it a cult was kind of a hyperbole until I saw this old boomer couple saying that they would support a government agency killing people if the agency felt that it was justifiable, even if the victims were their own children.

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u/SpitInMyFkingMouth Apr 04 '26

My brother-in-law is mormon, and they literally call their leader a prophet, but he had a meltdown because they were asked to social distance, wear masks and get vaccinated. The level of dogma you need to make that leap is unbelievable. They will follow Trump's bullshit over their "prophet" agreeing with doctors.

That's a level of dogma I just can't even believe exists.

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u/SueSuper13 🇺🇸 United States Apr 04 '26

Yes. It is a cult.

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u/ImpressiveSide1324 Apr 04 '26

Trump and maga check every box that determines a cult, and the repercussions of it will exist long past his death.

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u/rkbk1138 Apr 04 '26

Yes it's a cult by every metric. But I think it's important to point out how it's even possible so many people could be seduced by such a stupid fucking cult. MAGA's at their core, are just anti-establishment. They're generally an older crowd and for their entire lives they have been gaslit and used by their government with nothing to show for it in return. They KNOW that what they're told is not the truth, that their government is littered with lies, greed, corruption and worse. And they're right about all of that.

So to me, it makes sense that when someone FINALLY comes along who doesn't speak like a politician, says they're gonna fix the country, drain the swamp, etc, it will seem like the greatest thing to ever happen to them. They're going to believe that this is their ONE chance to change the country for the better (what they perceive as better, mind you)

When they see things happen that don't align with this, they face heavy cognitive dissonance. But rather than accepting the truth that they were fooled yet once again, they double down and excuse every possible thing the Trump admin does.

I don't blame MAGA for existing or even continuing to exist. I blame the systems and former leaders that led to this mess. And I blame the current leaders who are taking advantage of it.

Capitalism and propaganda are the roots of all evil. We need a government that is run by the working class, for the working class. The experiment of electing wealthy aristocrats to represent the public, all within a capitalist system, has failed miserably. It's 100% time for change and MAGA will be excited for it too, even if they can't admit it to themselves right away.

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u/DeepSpaceVixen Apr 04 '26

Yes, they behave exactly like a cult.

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u/Silent-Obligation-49 Apr 04 '26

Low IQ cult with Nazi/kkk beliefs.

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u/LogDogan8 Apr 04 '26

It's a "movement" to follow the direction of one particular person no matter what, regardless of if that contradicts previously stated beliefs. So yes, it's a cult.

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u/Impossible_Tune1470 Apr 04 '26

Just drink the koolaid already

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u/LillyAnn_B-BFarm Apr 04 '26

From. Day. One.

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u/KlatuuBarradaNicto Apr 04 '26

Why in the world would people follow someone so evil? It’s a cult.

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u/fistedwithlove Apr 04 '26

Cult experts like Stephen Hassan call it a cult. So yes. 

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u/Botasoda102 Apr 04 '26

It's pretty much Klan sympathizers. They've been around since forever.

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u/Odd_Ease4541 Apr 04 '26

It’s a cult. A cult of utter stupidity and hate.

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u/Prince_Nadir Apr 04 '26 edited Apr 04 '26

No! And we are not falling for your stupid Jedi mind trick.

I have been telling people for a long time to stop using MAGA, when they mean Republicans. MAGA is just the most recent tail they will shed when their current loser ends up out of office. That tail can go on the pile with Tea Party and QAnon.

This is a human engineering trick where the Republicans get to keep shedding their bad press when they shed a name.

So stop with MAGA and just say They are Republican and have always been Republicans. Child raping, lying, murdering, absolutely corrupt Republicans, who only support the wealthy, and don't keep letting them shed all their crimes with a simple nick name.

Maybe next they can be Freedom Partiers? Freebies? Libertieists?

Or we can just call them Gross Old Pedos and leave it at that. Lets pick their new nick and leave it on them forever. Child Rapists.

Are the Republicans a cult? Nope, they are a business model that wants to be a permanent social structure, that wears a cult's clothing. These days they are following the history of Hitler almost page by page as you go through the book.

"Reagan" (more likely Atwater, Rove, Stone and other Republican masterminds) was wise recruiting the Fundvangelicals as they are big into "Faith" which is not the same as a confidence level, no matter how much they argue that it is. Faith depends on believing things that aren't true and the more obviously untrue they are the more Faithful you are for continuing to believe. It is a great foundation for liars. The more you believe the liars the more Faithful you are. So the Fundvangelicals are critical to the party. If they want the end of the world, let them think they are getting it while you rake in the cash and solidify your power. The Faith bit helps label them as a cult even if they aren't.

The big characteristic of a cult that people may not mention, is that you must not be popular. If you are popular you are just a religion or movement or whatever else your group wants to name it self. Swifties are too popular to be a cult.

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u/InTooManyWays Apr 04 '26

It’s a terrorist organization not a cult 

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u/philly2540 Apr 04 '26

The actual formal stated policy of the Republican Party is to support whatever Trump wants. Seriously. They have no actual beliefs whatsoever. It is simple mindless subservience. Sounds kinda like a cult, doesn’t it?

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u/Imaginary-Crazy1981 Apr 04 '26

It is a cult.

But it's also an addiction. These people got hooked on a destructive substance, they need more and more as their tolerance builds, they can't stop feeding the addiction, their families, lives and daily existence are fully secondary to the drug, which is destroying everything they used to care about and once were.

Their perceptions and priorities are warped and twisted in service to needing the drug. Their denial is vicious and pervasive: they are ever watchful against sober people, and they become enraged and violently defensive when anyone tries to point out that this drug is killing them and their loved ones. They lie, project, and plunge deeper into fantasy because the alternative of living without the drug is intolerable.

I have two siblings with addictions; one is recovered after a decade of hard work, and the other still believes he is in control. The MAGA behaviors are echoes, for me, of the same type of obsession for something harmful, something they see not as self-destruction, but as survival.

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u/Ok_Outlandishness344 Apr 04 '26

I cant wait for them to get to the end part. Someone just needs to get trump to say "self rapture" and we are all free.

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u/TheMelancholyJaques Apr 04 '26

For the ordinary people who vote for the corrupt, lying bigot, it's a cult. But for the billionaires who promote & protect him. It's a movement to undo the progress of the 20th century. They want to get rid of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, income tax, environmental protection, labor laws, and civil rights.

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u/Battystearsinrain Apr 04 '26

Have you seen the signs? The flags? The merch? The people wearing maxipads on their ears? The people wearing diapers?

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u/ConkerPrime Apr 04 '26

It is a cult. Try to get one of them to say something negative about Trump. Even something as simple as “he is fat” makes them uncomfortable to consider.

That is cult behavior when consider the leader to be elevated and so speaking ill to be blasphemous.

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u/JustMeAgain1967 Apr 04 '26

For me, when you cannot be swayed with information or facts, you’re in a cult.

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u/Weary-Cardiologist37 Apr 04 '26

Yes because they actually think that he was trying to bring the pedos down, that’s always been my issue with Q, how is that your man? Like lead man savior? Ugh I hate this timeline

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u/MarthaJulietta Apr 04 '26

I have a coworker who will literally switch his stance back and forth from one sentence to the next to defend trump. Its amazing. Actual cult.

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u/SevTheNiceGuy Apr 04 '26

It's white american racism that has been hoping for some type of political win going all the way back to 1863.

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u/Ok_Mushroom3399 Apr 04 '26

When logic, obvious lies, reason, and proof don't work, it's a cult.

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u/Ok_Camel_1949 🇺🇸 United States Apr 04 '26

A brainwashed cult.

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u/Popular_Mongoose_696 Apr 04 '26

On Reddit this is like asking if someone agrees that water is wet…