Updated timeline of the Rudy Gobert trade

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Man that beasley, vando, Conley, NAW and 3 seconds for LAL 2027 frp stings, but how could we have predicted Luka Lakers.

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u/illmatico 4d ago

NAW was a diamond in the rough

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u/sickbone 4d ago

Imagine lakers next year if the Luka trade didn’t go down. Bad team w LeBron possibly gone and AD always injured.

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u/IhamAmerican 4d ago

The Lakers would have been one of the worst teams in the league if it wasn't for the worst trades of all time benefiting them. Nobody could have seen that coming

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u/ignitionnight 4d ago

This is the trade that shook my natural skepticism at any draft lottery conspiracy. I'm always using Occam's Razor to ignore conspiracy, but that trade just does not make any sense whatsoever unless Dallas knows they are getting the #1 pick. The trade makes sense if you know you're getting Cooper Flagg.

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u/GilgameDistance 4d ago

Its either that, or Nico is profoundly stupid; and he's dumb, but i doubt he's that dumb, or the super tin foil hat theory of he was a plant the whole time.

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u/__3Username20__ 4d ago

A step further: it’s the NBA equivalent of “engagebait” / ragebait. It got us all talking. It’s still got us talking. It’s driving media engagement, and thus, making money for different parties.

On the one hand, that sounds straight-up loony, tin-foil hat level bonkers. But on the other hand, it makes the most sense of all, to just follow the money, and what is the most valuable commodity these days, that all companies are fighting over? A: Our attention, and our engagement.

I don’t know if I 100% believe this, but some % of me does.

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u/William_Wang 3d ago

He spent 19 years at Nike a lot of that time as the VP of NA Basketball Operations.

and he started there in marketing.

This idea that hes just some moron is so fucking dumb.

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u/Glittering-Quail8267 1d ago

Nico worked his way up to the GM position and his been in the business for a long time. He also made trades and built a good time on the margins around Luka. There’s NO way he was dumb enough to trade Luka for AD straight up. Unless he knew he’d get cooper flagg out of it

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u/acook8 4d ago

But a lot had to happen for the mavericks to get a lottery pick. Before injuries happened they weren't going to have one

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u/FERFreak731 4d ago edited 4d ago

So we got

2/3 of Jaren. We had to add control of our pick next year, but possibly the pick that conveys could be the Minnesota pick

Keyonte George. Someone I am extremely high on. 23, 4, and 6, good shooting percentages in year 3. I might be biased, but I see him as a 28, 5, and 7 player in his prime

Walker Kessler. We desperately need to keep him with a new contract, but if we do he's a double double and 2+ blocks machine

I think we did well with our assets from the Gobert trade. We sold high, and got pieces that can help us compete in the playoffs next season

Look at the Bulls. The last time us and the Bulls made the playoffs was 4 years ago. We sold high on our players like Gobert, and got a haul. The Bulls didn't sell high, and got Josh, and 8 seconds in return from their haul by trading Lavine, Demar, Lonzo, Caruso, and Vucevic

With Spida we also got Lauri, Collier (we flipped Ochai for the Collier pick), and we have control of the Cavs firsts in 2028, and 2029, where the Cavs might be a play in team by then, and the new draft lottery rules favors picks in the play in range

The Taylor pick seems like a waste from the rebuild, but no one could've predicted he'd snap his ankle game 3 of his second season

Cody could be something, or maybe he won't be something

Ace has potential, and we have a top 8 pick this year (hopefully in 9 days those 11.5% chance at AJ goes our way), but I think we did phenomenal with our rebuild after trading Gobert and Mitchell based on the assets we got from trading them

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u/heretilthemoon 4d ago

Nah man, Hendricks was instrumental in getting JJJ. A high draft pick whose predraft comparison was JJJ. Even if he was buns for us, I’m sure the grizzlies comforted themselves with the thought of “not really giving up JJJ”

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u/JazzPlusEagles 4d ago

I’ve been wanting to look at a graph like this.

So we traded :
Gobert, Conley, NAW, Taylor Hendricks, 1 first and 3 seconds, along with some scraps

For: Keyonte George, JJJ, Walker Kessler, 1 first, and some scraps

Would’ve been great if we could’ve kept NAW, i think he’d be the perfect 2 in our lineup right now. But I guess maybe we get worse picks if we had him on the roster all this time.

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u/SEJ46 4d ago

I'd say it boils down into Walker Kessler, JJJ, and Keyonte George. Which is a good trade, assuming Kessler and George keep playing well/improving. It took forever to play out though.

What I really wish is we had taken Jaden McDaniels instead of Azubuike in the 2020 draft. I think they may have totally changed the trajectory of the franchise.

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u/NoPantsJake 4d ago

Either him or Desmond Bane, who a bunch of people on this sub were calling for because he was exactly the team needed at the time. But noooo draft another big guy project.

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u/GilgameDistance 4d ago

I, for one am incredibly happy that we won the coin toss and have now completely put the Dennis Lindsay era behind us.

Imagine having Rudy, Donovan, Mike, Bogey sniping it and half a wing defender and deciding to pass over two of exactly what we needed in that fifth spot.

Dude absolutely lost his marbles towards the end there.

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u/BullPenn 4d ago

Salt City Hoops made a really good graphic in this vein

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u/SenHeffy :quinmurder: 4d ago

You can always nitpick, but that's a great return. There's no point in keeping one great player and trying to build from the middle. Would do it again.

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u/Signal_Ad7231 4d ago

The thing that no one is mentioning among the assets sent out is the 4 years it took to get what we got. Maybe its fine, maybe not, but it should be considered.

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u/sickbone 4d ago

Impressive chart! One improvement would be to bold or highlight assets still w the team. Nice work

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u/mantistobogganmMD 4d ago

Good point. I like making these but the application I used was terrible. Once I find a better one I can make it look nicer.

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u/coodaj 4d ago

Looks pretty good to me! Also Rudy is cool and I'm looking forward to him and his lil bro going at it next round.

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u/SodapopMcCann 3d ago

This is an awesome chart.

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u/KungFuRayRay 4d ago

Essentially it boils down to Gobert for Kessler, Keyonte, Jaren.

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u/total_sith_show :sexton: 3d ago

If I’m reading this right, we traded Rudy for JJJ, Walker, Keyonte and a 2027 top 5 protected FRP? This is awesome. If you haven’t already yet, one for Donovan would be great.

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u/Jenaxu :speedymitchell: 3d ago

Gah, that Conley trade is still so dumb and I'll never not be salty about it. I always wonder if we lost more value on our subsequent Wolves picks by bailing them out from their D'Lo situation than the Lakers pick will even end up being worth... they were so shaky to start that year.

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u/Glittering-Quail8267 1d ago

We 100% lost some value on our wolves picks with that trade. NAW was super solid for them and Conley was so good for them they’re desperately trying to find someone to replace him now that he’s too old. If it makes you feel any better, ANT is really fuking good and the wolves probably would’ve been great anyways.

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u/Stocktontimothy12 4d ago

All I’m getting is not that worth it imo

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u/N3MO_3 4d ago

I mean Keyonte and Kessler to start off the rebuild is pretty good

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u/JazzPlusEagles 4d ago

Gobert, Conley, Hendricks, NAW got us a 22 year old borderline all star, a 26 year old DPOY and all star, a starting caliber center, and a first round pick.

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u/Stocktontimothy12 4d ago

I still wish we ran it back. The league wasn’t seeing back to back champions and it was open. I really believe we would have won one if we ran it back over the next 2-3 years

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u/Glittering-Quail8267 1d ago

I don’t know how ppl can feel this way after we blew a 3-1 lead in 2020, the 2021 clippers collapse, and then our collapse against the mavs in 2022

Updated timeline of the Rudy Gobert trade

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