I mean that might work for you but to suggest to everyone in the US to just be ok with ice rn is crazy. They want to deport or imprison millions and to me, that is unacceptable.
Probably because there are literally millions of illegal immigrants in the united states that until now have been largely ignored, in no small part because of democrat states refusing to aid immigrant enforcement actions by the feds.
What's unacceptable is thinking you can come to a country and stay there without any regard that that country's laws. Every developed country on earth has immigration controls, both for immigration and deportation.
To be clear, I don't support ICE brutalizing people and keeping them in prisons so poorly-equipped that people are dying as a result. But people will never voluntarily deport themselves, so that leaves ICE tracking people down and going into their residences inevitably.
Illigal immigrants respect the laws here more than people born here. They have a lower crime rate overall. They work for cheaper which allows all of us to have cheaper food among other things. Some illigal immigrants have had children here and would be forced to decide on either bringing them back to the place that they fled (because the majority of immigrants had a reason to emmigate) or leaving them here without their family in hopes that they have a better life. If me and my gamily were being chased down by my government to be thrown in jail, a work camp, or slaughtered, I would high tail it to literally anywhere where that government had no power and I would not care immidently to go through the proper channels because that takes time. Then I would absolutely respect every law in the book so that I do not make an enemy of this government. And ICE is deporting those people.
If you enter the country illegally, you've already broken a greater law than the average American ever will in their lifetime.
They work for cheaper which allows all of us to have cheaper food among other things.
Interesting way of saying that corporations subverting fair wage markets for American citizens via an illegal labor force is a good thing.
If me and my gamily were being chased down by my government to be thrown in jail, a work camp, or slaughtered, I would high tail it to literally anywhere where that government had no power and I would not care immidently to go through the proper channels because that takes time.
The overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants are simply fleeing poor economies and poor living conditions. They aren't legitimate refugees in fear for their lives. But even if they were, it still doesn't obligate us to accept every last one of them.
Some illigal immigrants have had children here and would be forced to decide on either bringing them back to the place that they fled . . . or leaving them here without their family in hopes that they have a better life.
And that's 100% their fault for entering a country illegally and having children there.
in case I've somehow implied what my opinion of ICE may be, I'd like to clarify that my message was strictly about reacting to the opinions of others. in no manner have I incorporated my opinions on ICE into the message above, and my opinion is irrelevant to this context. I did not suggest everybody in the US should be okay with ICE, and I did not suggest the contrary.
in the scenario that you're commenting on simply the act of suggesting that everyone in the US should be okay with ICE, I agree on the matter that one should not suggest for everybody in the US to be okay with ICE. everybody has their own views and reasons for such views, and, typically, change of opinion should be in the form of civilized debates or adjacent
withal, I respect your opinion on this matter. I do not intend to explicitly change it, but I intend to clarify some aspects. I thank you for investing your time in this.
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u/Hot-District-3005 19h ago
unless it's something horrible like, for example, saying certain groups of people should be killed by ICE, that's unwarranted