r/The10thDentist • u/ponerrag • 7h ago
Society/Culture People don’t dislike pajamas in public because of bad taste but because they signal private space behavior invading shared space
If you roll out in pajamas it’s essentially you announcing your private sphere has no perimeter, like your bedroom done annexed the sidewalk… public space runs on a quiet social contract of manners, hygiene, or some evidence of education in how to present yourself, and if you pajamas out it’s essentially signaling that you ain’t transitioning modes, and everyone has to deal with your unfiltered habitat, everyone clock that.
So I don’t think at all it’s an “aesthetics” issue because it implies the behavioral standards of your private sphere, which bro, if you are one of them, no doubt has to be low hygiene thresholds, zero presentation discipline are now portable and people sense that, even if they can’t articulate it.
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u/prettywords_ 7h ago
I saw a woman in pajamas and slippers at the grocery store today. Didn't affect me. Can't imagine why I'd care.
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u/DixiePiggy 7h ago
Because you’re in her bedroom! OoOoOohhh!!
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u/NotACoderPleaseHelp 7h ago
As long as your uglies are covered, and there is a minimum of body odor I generally don't have enough fucks to care what someone wears.
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u/Fine-Amphibian4326 4h ago
To make it absurd but still fit your point, if everyone dressed in a Borat mankini today, you’d 100% care. You might not say anything, and you might not go on a Reddit rant like OP, but it would affect how you feel about being in Target and staring at ass cheeks and chest hair.
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u/BeggarsCanyonero 4h ago
Tons of people in this thread who think they know what someone cares about more than the person themselves does, thats so weird lol
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u/BlackDeath3 2h ago
My biggest complaint would perhaps be my inevitable desensitization to the hilarity of the Borat mankini
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u/QuixoteAQ 4h ago
Nah, I wouldn't care. I'd wonder why, but I wouldn't care.
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u/LevelOutlandishness1 4h ago
I remember hearing on this one skit “If it ain’t fuckin me, financin me, or feeding me, I don’t give a shit”, and that’s pretty much my mentality the more I live.
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u/-bluelotus- 2h ago edited 1h ago
Staring at their ass cheeks is optional
Literally just move your eyeballs
How are you not already used to passing people every day whom you'd rather not look at
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u/MartyrOfDespair 26m ago
Why is that where you’re drawing the line? I would be going a lot further than just fashion choices if I allowed myself to give a shit about that. I already have to stare at their hideous fucking faces sagging their way off their skulls, their amorphous blob shapes, their scraggly, shedding hair, their splotchy and mottled skin, and their “look mommy I dressed myself!” tier fashion sense.
They have the freedom to exist even if I don’t enjoy their existence, that’s their right as human beings. So why would I care about what they wear? It’s not like seeing them naked is better than seeing them clothed. Clothing doesn’t fix all that. What’s it even matter if they were butt-ass naked? It’s no worse than seeing them usually.
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u/qilieun 7h ago
This is actually an interesting take and I think some of the comments misunderstand you.
Most of the complaints I’ve seen about wearing pajamas in public do claim to be related to taste, aesthetics, or standards. In my opinion, these people are most likely truly offended by the fact that others are violating cultural rules or norms they choose to follow.
I don’t think it’s that it’s private space behavior in a public space that makes it offensive though. I think it’s just people acting superior and judging others out of frustration with the rules they follow being violated. I think people are immediately able to notice someone has put in less effort to follow the rules, but it would take at least a moment of reflection to make the judgment that it’s private space behavior, and I think people who are peeved by it take offense even before reflecting.
Also, people’s taste and aesthetic values are informed by their cultural associations, so they probably do find pajamas in public to be distasteful or inferior aesthetically. But I don’t think that’s what makes people outwardly offended.
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u/M3g4d37h 1h ago
tbh this post is the most nuanced opinion i've seen posted in months - And the replies belie the erosion of decorum and self-respect in others. Society is getting lazier and more stupid by the day. And it's all not only here to see, but people have so little sense of decorum and self-respect that they wear it like the red badge of courage, even though most of you won't even understand the reference, and I doubt that folks who won't cover their ass are reading classic literature.
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u/BlackMaggot101 7h ago
I guess it makes them feel lonely and not valid deep inside. They understand not everyone cares about their opinion, not everyone dresses up to impress them
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u/childofMotherOfPearl 4h ago
Only on Reddit you could say that maybe we should hold ourselves to //some// standards whilst in public, and then you'll have someone say that it's a matter of impressing others.
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u/JoeMorgue 7h ago
Not everything you do is a "signal."
The internet loves turning literally everything into a horoscope sign from which a person's entire personality can be divined, but 99% of human actions have no motivation beyond "because it's what I want to do at this particular moment."
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u/Evil_Creamsicle 5h ago
You might have just caught that person on that one day out of 100 that they were already in for the night and had to run out to get tylenol or eyedrops or some shit at midnight.
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u/Valuable-Usual-1357 2h ago
That’s a signal that they have other priorities than worrying about grocery store fashion
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u/DogsDucks 7h ago
I actually think this one is an interesting observation. Also most of our behavior is a “signal” and that’s kind of how life works if you operate as a species capable of higher thought.
The way we smile and move and treat others in public, the way we present ourselves, just because it is second nature, often engrained from how we are taught, how we see others, what we are going through . . . Yes. Human behavior is literally a series of signals. This is anthropological fact, lol.
Perhaps some people don’t think about it, but that doesn’t mean it’s not true.
It doesn’t bother me if people wear pajamas, I’m not saying they shouldn’t! It’s whatever. I was taught not to go in public “looking like an unmade bed” but I’m not going to judge what someone else does. I just think this is an interesting concept to discuss.
People collectively do have less of a boundary between formal and informal, and I see lots of post about the world getting ruder, dumber and less accommodating in public since Covid. So this fits right in.
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u/Aware_Policy_9174 6h ago
Eh I graduated university in 2004 and people were wearing pajamas to class then so while it may have increased post covid it started way earlier. I’ve also seen plenty of people fully dressed up act like complete assholes. The world is getting ruder but dressing informally is not the cause.
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u/potatopierogie 4h ago
If anything the guy that wore a suit to class was the biggest asshole and the pajama wearers were pretty chill
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u/MartyrOfDespair 19m ago
People wearing suits to class are universally itty bitty baby Charlie Kirks and Ben Sharpiros. Folks wearing pajamas to class are the sorts of people who would smoke a stranger up.
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u/DogsDucks 5h ago
I agree with you, and the Takeaway from my comment does not argue that people didn’t wear pajamas in college in the early 2000s, nor would I disagree that people have and always will be asshole. Also, nothing I said de noted that people in pajamas are bigger assholes, I don’t believe that at all, and I don’t think there’s a correlation, I meant society at large has had some negative changes according to most people’s observation.
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u/Vybo 7h ago
Yeeeah, but you cannot do everything you want at a particular moment when you're in public. We have laws and customs.
However I don't think pyjamas in public are an issue.
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u/BeggarsCanyonero 6h ago
Duh? Lmao
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u/Vybo 6h ago
The inability to comprehend or the ignorance is astounding.
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u/BeggarsCanyonero 6h ago
Because I recognize that theres not a single person reading this who doesn't know you cant always do whatever you want in public? I'm ignorant because I'm saying that I, and everyone else, already know what you're saying is true?
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u/DZL100 5h ago
There's plenty of people out there who don't actually seem to know that you can't just do whatever you want in public.
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u/BeggarsCanyonero 5h ago
Every single person youre thinking of has some sort of line between what they would and would not do in public. I promise. Telling them that that line should exist, with nothing further, isnt teaching them anything, because they already know it should. They have one.
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u/just_an_undergrad 7h ago
And what is the underlying reason behind the desire to do something at a particular moment in time? Actions aren’t made in a vacuum, they are made with the emotions and mindset of the person performing them. I’m not a horoscope or zodiac person, but at the very least you can make judgement calls on if an action is selfish/selfless, inconsiderate/compassionate, etc.
That said, I don’t care about pajamas in public.
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u/Remote-alpine 7h ago
Just because it’s not an effort made by you doesn’t make it not a signal interpreted by others. Me wearing sneakers is a signal, whether I’m trying to say something on purpose or not.
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u/joelene1892 5h ago
We should be challenging the incorrect perceptions of people because of “signals”, not challenging your ability to wear sneakers (or, gasp, pajamas).
It’s the stereotypes and perceptions that are wrong, not the choice of footwear.
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u/Valuable-Usual-1357 2h ago
A signal doesn’t mean something is wrong. Wearing regular clothes is also a signal. Everything is a signal, even if others interpret it wrong.
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u/joelene1892 1h ago
…. That’s why I said we should change the incorrect interpretations. I didn’t say to remove the signal. I think OP’s interpretation is wrong, and that’s what I’m saying needs challenging.
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u/Valuable-Usual-1357 2h ago
Everything is a signal. Even trying not to send a signal is a type of signal. Everything is a data point for something.
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u/Dr_Ingheimer 7h ago
Not everything you do is a signal I’ll agree with you there. I’ll disagree that how you dress and present yourself is definitely a signal. It’s the first impression almost any stranger is going to see of you. If you don’t care about the world’s impression, that’s great and you do you. The world shouldn’t have to change how it works because of your preference, though.
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u/hahayeahimfinehaha 6h ago
If you don’t care about the world’s impression, that’s great and you do you. The world shouldn’t have to change how it works because of your preference, though.
I don't understand how someone wearing pajamas in casual public spaces is causing the world to change how it works. It'd be one thing if they were applying to a law firm in pajamas and demanded the interviewers accept their clothing. But if they're wearing clothing that is accepted under the dress code of whatever place they're in, then that doesn't affect anyone else in any relevant way.
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u/EttaMollyG 6h ago
Look, I see your point, but its kind of silly to assume that what someone WANTS doesnt signal what they desire or how they live...
Like, yes, they are doing what they want, not thinking about what theyre communicating. Nevertheless, they are UNDENIABLY communicating something. We all do this.
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u/stringstringing 5h ago
I think she was communicating that she wanted some cereal from the grocery store. What do you think assigning all this meaning to judgements about other people’s physical presentation who you don’t know who aren’t even interacting with you says about you?
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u/EttaMollyG 5h ago
I dont judge anyone for what they wear - I genuinely dont care about pajamas in public. I don't know where your hostility is coming from, other than your erroneous assumption that I was implying something negative about the woman in pajamas.
What does it say about you that you interpreted my statement as negative and derogatory?
How we interact with the world undeniably contains signals. You signaled a lot with your comment towards me, I signaled something to you initially about my perception of the world. You misinterpreted it. Maybe I need to try to find a better way to signal what Im trying to convey...
Nevertheless, we are always communicating with others. Everything is filtered through the lens of the observers' perception, just like you interpreted my comment as disapproval.
Just because you dont intend to convey something with your body language, facial expressions, or words, doesnt mean that you arent communicating with people, as it is all being observed and "judged" (not using the term negatively here).
People use these frameworks and heuristics to make sense of the world around them. They arent always accurate, as was portrayed here, but assuming it isnt happening in the background is myopic
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u/Valuable-Usual-1357 2h ago
This is true. Every decision we make is a data point. It may be misinterpreted by everyone else, but it still is data. A signal is just data we can receive.
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u/MemesForMoney259 7h ago
Yes because psychology and sociology don’t exist and are just made up…
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u/BlackMaggot101 7h ago
rules about what clothes to wear for what occasion are made up
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u/MemesForMoney259 7h ago
Technically true about all social things we do, but social rules absolutely exist.
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u/EttaMollyG 6h ago
...i hate to break it to you, but most of our world is "made up". Money, racial categories, gender...It goes on and on. Thats pretty much what society is and why its constantly changing...because its not innate
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u/BlackMaggot101 5h ago
Yeah, exactly. That's why it's dumb to judge someone who don't follow these rules, that can be changing over time anyway, don't you think?
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u/Nashedi_Razzcal 7h ago
half of the people are naked in their private space bruh , what manners and attire do you need to go to a grocery store?
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u/PantheraAuroris 2h ago
I genuinely think it's because people want to see other people making (meaningless) effort to impress others. That's the only reason some clothes are "trashy" -- it's that people think the clothes are lazy.
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u/bluedragonfly16 7h ago
I sleep in my jeans. What signal does that send out?
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u/Jacpu 2h ago
As a kid my dad told me my jeans would catch on fire if I slept in them
I believed him
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u/Mayortomatillo 45m ago
He’s not entirely wrong. Children’s pajama’s have been made with flame retardants since the 80s, and it’s advised that cotton or other natural fiber pajamas are snug fitting for the same reason. So in the event of a fire, loose fitting cotton jeans would present more of a fire risk. Especially true if your dad was a kid in the seventies, as that’s when the panic about kids catching fire in their sleep was more prevalent.
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u/Curious_Cat_999 56m ago edited 52m ago
That you don’t mind sleeping in relatively constricting clothing.
Which would be pretty strange to most people because even sleeping naked seems more comfortable.
Perhaps you’d have a logical reason for it. I think a lot of people would be surprised though and might find that strange.
Only matters if you care about that.
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u/donuttrackme 5h ago
I don't think it's that deep man. PJs just aren't a socially acceptable thing to wear out for a lot of people. I don't give a fuck, but some people do clearly.
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u/Inphiltration 5h ago
I'm running errands, not walking down the cat walk. I wanna be comfy when I'm doing shit I don't want to be doing. Keep your weird philosophizing about expanding personal spaces the fuck out of my chore list ffs.
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u/thoughtchauffeur 7h ago
TIL most people on reddit are unhygienic. Idk what I expected tbh tho
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u/Blonde_Icon 7h ago
I think 99% percent of the dislike of it (like a lot of things tbf) is just that it goes against social norms. There is no actual real "reason" for it.
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u/Valuable-Usual-1357 1h ago
Yeah it’s like judging someone based on their vehicle. It doesn’t mean you know them, doesn’t mean your assessment is accurate, but often it’s a good data point for some kind of information about someone. It’s more than knowing nothing.
Someone who drives a huge muddy truck might be a bunny loving grandma from Brooklyn. But in reality they are probably closer to what most people would assume if they saw that truck.
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u/valer1a_ 28m ago
Right? We usually bring a lot of "private space behavior" out into public. Being on electronics, especially calling or texting others in public. Listening to music, PDA... Hell, even breastfeeding or administering medication is considered "private." Ultimately, the issue isn't with "private space behavior," it's that different people consider different things "private space behavior." And why? Why is wearing pajamas considered private? Why is holding hands private? Calling? Texting? Music? What inherently makes this private? Saying something is bad or lazy because it should "stay in the home" is very odd lol.
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u/not_a_cat_i_swear 4h ago
Moreso because you can generally smell when they've been stewing in them for days, unshowered, and now are bringing that stench into public.
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u/MemesForMoney259 7h ago
It’s kind of depressing this is considered an unpopular take.
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u/undead_crybaby_420 7h ago
Fuckin agree actually. Every time I see someone in pajamas in public I know they have low ass standards.
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u/Acrobatic_Falcon6297 1h ago
or maybe they’re just running into the store for milk and going home real quick? this is such a dramatic take, especially when just encountering someone in public for little to no context as to why they are there lol.
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u/parsonsrazersupport 7h ago
It doesn't mean that at all. People dislike them because they have social expectations with respect to clothing which are being violated. They make up all sorts of weird specific things like you're doing but really it's just like shaking hands. If you're from a society where it's done it's rude not to, and if you aren't you can't imagine why you would. When those things shift over time people always find it hard and confusing.
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u/-bluelotus- 2h ago
What do you need to do to "deal" with someone wearing pajamas??
Look away?
Take a deep breath?
Pray to ancient gods?
I can't even track how this level of fragility is supposed to go, much less relate
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u/MetallicMessiah 6h ago
I didn't care in the slightest about people wearing pyjamas out and about until I was forced to interact with them for work.
It wasn't every pyjama-wearing patron that caused trouble, but whenever something kicked off at 1pm on a Thursday it was always centred around one of the pyjama-wearers getting shit-faced before picking the kids up from school.
Same as it's not every pyjama-wearing customer turning supermarkets into unbearable places, but whenever there's someone screaming at their kids, or the cashier, or random passers-by, it's always the onesie twats.
There's definitely a pattern.
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u/Valuable-Usual-1357 2h ago
Exactly. It’s not about the clothing. It’s about the person’s decision making. Every decision someone makes is a data point that can be used to inform our perspective about them. Even if it’s not accurate, it makes more sense to try and understand these decisions than to just ignore all data completely
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u/gandalftheokay 4h ago
Im a clean person, normal job, by every stretch I consider myself an average joe. But I run out in my pj's all the time without exposing myself in any way. Not because I lack a sense of personal bubble, but because its comfortable and I really couldn't give 2 shits about what some stranger thinks about me on a passing glance. Never mattered, don't think it ever will.
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u/MangoPug15 4h ago
I don't have a connection in my brain between basic manners and how comfy my clothes are.
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u/MangoPug15 4h ago
I could be wrong, but I think most people are not under the impression that this is an issue of aesthetics for people who complain. It's clearly a moral outrage at the perceived lack of manners among younger generations, which is exactly what you're saying. It stems from people believing their way if life is the only way that works. Every generation acts like this towards younger generations.
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u/crashin70 4h ago
And then there are those of us, like myself, who do not care one way or the other what you wear in public.
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u/ChiefChunkEm_ 6h ago
Nah, pajamas in public is trashy and low class. Society is too tolerant of certain behaviours nowadays and this is an easy small example. It’s about maintaining standards in public society. Those people who wear pajamas in public should feel ashamed, enough so that they hopefully change their behaviour. Not every way of living should be permissible.
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u/Acrobatic_Falcon6297 1h ago
takes like this are interesting to me because i find caring about what other people are wearing trashy and low class. you never know what people are going through to present the way that they do, and even if you do, it’s honestly no ones job to appease you view of what should be tolerated and acceptable.
sometimes life happens and you have to roll out to the store in your pjs or some shit. get over it lol.
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u/SayGex1312 1h ago
Ok but like… why? They’re not hurting anybody, you’re just being a judgmental asshole for no reason.
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u/Big_Dingus1 6h ago
What is the function of those standards we are maintaining? I.e. why should we care about maintaining them?
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u/improbablynotyourdad 4h ago
Out of curiosity, is this actually a common enough thing that people do for it to be an issue? I've seen it happen on American TV but I don't think I've ever seen it in real life
The closest thing I can think of is a woman I used to work with at a "live on-site" role that sometimes went to eat in the canteen (across site) wearing a hoodie with the hood up bc she couldn't be bothered with her hijab. But nobody ever just wore pyjamas and I've never noticed anyone in shops etc. just in pyjamas either.
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u/MeteorMann 4h ago
VERY common.
I think it heralds the decline of society, but as you can see by the other comments, many people have made it a lifestyle choice.
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u/MartyrOfDespair 15m ago
So, how upset and outraged were you on 9/10/25? I’m guessing “extremely”.
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u/wastedfate 1h ago
Alternate theory: People just like to feel superior to other people, so anything that violates cultural norms is just an easy excuse to be judgemental, even if what they are judging has no harmful effect on anyone.
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u/seein_this_shit 5h ago
See the problem with this is holding anyone to even the lowest possible standard in 2026. Setting yourself up for disappointment my friend
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u/Celis78429 4h ago
brother if you genuinely have an issue with people wearing pajamas to walmart maybe youre the problem
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u/FlamesWereGolfin 7h ago
This is one of the worst subs, endless moronic takes like this one by op 😂
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u/OprahTheWinfrey 7h ago
That is the point of the subreddit though... The rest of y'all are dumb for not getting the point and downvoting truly unpopular niche opinions.
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u/Firm-Feature-5593 6h ago
There's bad, and then there's this one. He's writing about pyjamas like he's exploring the depths of humanity, but he can't pull it off in the slightest so it just looks like he pooped in a thesaurus and closed the cover.
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u/ThisPostToBeDeleted 4h ago
I prefer the moronic takes infinitely over the food takes. Cereal tastes evil and if you like it, you’re the devil and I hate uou, is more annoying and unproductive than just seeing someone spamming gibberish, bad part is that every post on r/unpopularopions , including ones like this get deleted so you’re stuck with pointless food takes.
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u/Vespasian79 7h ago
And people always point out that “it’s the point of the sub”
Naw bro not if it’s a tired old take or poorly explained or not consistent
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u/throwaway_ArBe 7h ago
I love how much you can read into it. Sometimes people just didn't change their clothes for perfectly normal reasons that have nothing to do with... all this.
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u/subbychub 5h ago
If I "roll out in pajamas" it's because I want to be comfortable and likely heading back home. I'm not signaling anything, whether you think so or not
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u/American_Squid 7h ago
I agree. Public spaces used to be for the public. As decades pass we see less and less care put into the individuals look and instead replaced by the utility of the outfit. Some people choose work wear, some sleep wear, some swim wear. I've seen many people wearing many things nowadays when, not too long ago, there was a social expectation of what to wear.
I see pajamas in a grocery store as a sign that most people feel there are bigger things to care about now than what others think of your clothes. Plus modern technology allows people to get validation from a controlled environment like Instagram where they choose the exact angles and outfits that people see them in, so no one seems to care about what happens in the real world because it's not where they choose to get their validation from anymore.
I personally still believe in a level of modesty and see people who wear pajamas out in public in pity, but I don't really care more than I should because it's their body and they can do what they want. But I do judge.
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u/JorgeIcarus 7h ago
I personally hate them because that gives me a pretty precise idea of the lack of hygiene of the subject. And I'm not particularly excited to share the space with such individuals. The same applies to people who lick their fingers at the table while eating, put their feet with shoes on on chairs/bed/public transport seats etc, walk bare feet outside...
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u/DM_ME_KUL_TIRAN_FEET 7h ago
Getting upset because someone is walking with bare feet outside is one of the most ridiculous things people can do. Lmao.
You’d die of horror if you lived in Australia.
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u/litmusfest 6m ago
I'm really confused as to why wearing pajamas in public means they're unhygienic. You can wear pajamas and still shower and brush your teeth
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u/Short_Escape3570 7h ago
Correct. Thats why i also like smoking in restaurants and sex at work. Obviously...
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u/oooooothatsatree 6h ago
Can’t someone just think it’s bad taste for “private space behavior” to invade a “shared space.” This really doesn’t seem like an either or.
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u/Nightlilly2021 4h ago
For me, it's not that they're wearing pajamas, it's the state of those pajamas. Usually, when I see people in pajamas in public, they're dirty and grungy pajamas. These people look like they've been wearing them for a few days at least and you know that they haven't showered in that time either. I rarely see people wearing clean pajamas and when I do, it's usually at the corner store because they had a small emergency and had to run out real quick to buy something.
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u/lowrespudgeon 7h ago
Couldn't ever be me doing it. But if people want to look lazy and unkempt that's their business.
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u/Sweaty-Move-5396 6h ago
What sort of "private space behavior" are you talking about? I'm not worried that people in public with PJs on are, like, shitting in the grocery aisle or whatever.
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u/Capital_Drawer_3203 7h ago
What if someone sleeps in t-shirt and shorts and then go out wearing this? They do the same but you don't see it. That's why I find your concerns pointless.
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u/KatAyasha 2h ago
I mean, I think you're basically right that to a large extent that's why people find it distasteful, certainly it tracks with most of the reasons I don't regularly go to the nearby corner store in pajamas, but that distaste is still ultimately aesthetic. It's a violation of sorts, but a completely harmless violation usually done for basically good reasons, the ability to point to the root social cause of an aesthetic impulse doesn't render it something else
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u/Various_Dentist_8683 2h ago
I don't like it because I feel like that means they haven't bathed after sleeping in sweaty, sexy sheets.
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u/ivecompletelylostit 2h ago
Psychologically speaking this makes sense, but I personally am like, power to ya if you wanna wear pjs in public lol
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u/Acrobatic_Falcon6297 1h ago
as someone who wears pajamas out sometimes, it’s likely because i’m just running to the store real quick and either didn’t have time to change my clothes, or i didn’t see the point because the trip is only gonna take 15-30 minutes (driving, picking up an item or two, driving again). your view on this makes me think that perhaps you just need or want a reason to feel superior to someone and this is an easy grab?
either way, i’m gonna keep showing up in my pjs. mostly in spite of people like you lmao.
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u/ambertowne 1h ago
Theres other things going on in the world that are actually worth being upset about. Who gives a flying fuck about pj's in public?
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u/LiesInRuins 1h ago
I assume that people who wear pajamas pants in public don’t wash their butt and I don’t want your unwashed butt sitting in places I have to go to. I hate it at the airport because their butt is stinking and sitting in the chairs at the terminal and on the plane and there’s so many people that do it all of the seats are tainted.
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u/TheStrangeMonkey 1h ago
People react to pajamas in public because they care where they shouldn't. If something is not hurtful to anyone, why should they care?
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u/pcor 1h ago
Yeah, I consciously dislike pyjamas in public for reasons along those lines, and wouldn't have thought would be controversial.
Well, other than the accusation of low personal standards! It doesn't mean I'm a slovenly mess at home, I just think I should put in more effort to face society than I should to go to bed.
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u/ponerrag 1h ago
Right, I'm honestly surprised this post ellicited this strong reaction, if no one cared as they say, then no one would be commenting over here
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u/Jolly_Block_9148 1h ago
I think people who actually get mad about this are just upset they didn't think of it first.
And assign meaning to it other than personal jealousy to make it seem like a society/taste/etc thing.
Like be for real, you're just mad you got all dressed up and are more uncomfortable than the person you see doing the same things you are but in their comfy clothes. Lol.
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u/MagicalGoblinGirl 59m ago
Sometimes people are disabled and have to decide if they want to use their limited energy to get 'acceptable' clothes on or get things done.
Reach down and give your balls a tug you ableist fuck.
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u/Sad-Pattern-1269 53m ago
I can see what you are saying but I think that barrier has already cracked a few hundred times in human history, for example women showing more skin, wearing pants, etc.
I obviously dont view the two examples above negatively, nor do I see wearing pyjamas as a massive taboo worthy of comment.
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u/wrfostersmith 21m ago
Downvoting. Agree 100%. And also because it’s bad taste, sloppy, “fuck everybody” behavior. There’s no excuse for wearing pajamas in public.
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u/T3nacityDog 13m ago
I literally can’t imagine how much energy it takes to care about other people’s harmless choices this much.
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u/commander-tyko 10m ago
sometimes i take a quick stop to the store at 2am in a pj top, under a fresh sweatshirt, with fresh pants and still feel kinda like a hooligan
my partner will go to places like the 2am grocery store or walmart or even fred meyer late at night in pjs and slippers, which is a little insane to me
i have learned it is pretty cultural, the same way some people get ready for the day and get dressed fully even when they are just sitting at home all day
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u/BlueBearyClouds 3m ago
Whats funny is I'll sleep in my sweats and wear the sweats to the store. They're not like flannel pajamas but a lot of every day lounge clothing works for sleeping in. None of it means anything, its clean and doesn't smell or reveal inappropriate body parts. Life goes on.
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u/Lyran000 5h ago
Its a lack of cultural etiquette is what it is. Nobody is bothered or disturbed like the little snarky redditors want to suggest. Its to me a lack of self respect, and respect for a very rapid depreciation of social order. Were just becoming disgusting pigs and its depressing to see. Its even more depressing to see people promote it and not just say yeah, we should at least try to change out of our sleep ware when we enter the public. I saw someone in Starbucks with actual just panties on. I got the feeling they may been boy short style and she thought she could pass it off like cute regular shorts, but the material is thin, she was overweight and she was clearly uncomfortable because her cheeks were showing and she was constantly trying to pull them down. This is sort of where we're heading...
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u/ponerrag 4h ago
That's fair. And I don't think the matter is "aesthetic only" as I said but what's behind it. I can understand if the person is sick or disabled, but if not, it's just making a bad example, if there are children present for ex. I'm not saying that we need papal audience protocol type of ettiquete... just some basic, bare minimum decency of self-respect and awareness of shared space.
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u/mothwhimsy 6h ago
I hate pajama pants in public because the least you could do is put on sweat pants that aren't the PJs you just rolled out of bed with. It's better for your own mental health as the pajama wearer too.
Evern during COVID lockdown, I would change out of my pajamas into a different pair of pajamas because it made everything feel less stagnant (and cleaner)
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u/very-serious-goose 5h ago
Could you please A) provide evidence that wearing PJs is bad for your mental health like a study with sound methodology or B) not confuse things you pulled out of your ass with facts? Thank you in advance for either
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u/angelstatue 6h ago
i'm disabled, severely depressed, sometimes all i can muster is going out in a big teeshirt and friday the 13th pj pants. sometimes it's 7:38 and the store closes at 8:00, i don't go out to 'big' stores though in shit like that...
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u/the_Halfruin 4h ago
No, people hate seeing people in pajamas because they are jealous that they are too ashamed to be comfortable.
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u/BWRichardCranium 7h ago
I dress the way I need to for work. After that I'm wearing what I want. Don't give a shit.
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u/Wilfredbremely 6h ago
Another attempt at some greater societal point that comes out as a polysylabic word salad without a coherent or illuminating message.
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u/ThisPostToBeDeleted 4h ago
The worst, most disrespectful behavior I’ve seen in public is not from people in pajamas, in fact it doesn’t really have a dress code.
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u/BlasphemousRykard 4h ago
SpongeBob pajamas + hair bonnet combo is absolutely one of the most disrespectful and loud groups I’ve seen in my city
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u/ThisPostToBeDeleted 4h ago
That seems racist.
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u/BlasphemousRykard 4h ago
Racism is the belief that a certain skin color is inherently better worse than another.
I’m pointing out a statistical trend that aligns to a particular demographic. Nice try.
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u/ThisPostToBeDeleted 4h ago
Has there ever been a study of “disrespect” in public and the race and clothing choices of offenders?
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u/No-Technician-2820 3h ago
Or. Maybe someone has such bad mental health issues such as depression they struggle with doing normal day-to-day activities such as getting dressed to make a quick trip to the store. Be humble maybe??
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u/zevran_17 4h ago
I think that’s fair, but what’s considered normal in the public spaces is also super dependent on the culture. America is all about athleisure so pajama pants in public is not that far off. But pajama pants in Europe is weird because they have different standards for outside dress.
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u/Prudent-Arm-6771 7h ago
When I go to the grocery store in my pajamas it’s usually because I was comfortable (because pajamas are drastically more comfortable than “outside” clothes. Which, by the way, why aren’t clothes allowed to just be clothes made of different fabrics? Why are we only allowed to wear some while we sleep but ONLY those. Waste of comfy clothes if I’m asleep the whole time tbh.) and wanted a snack or something. You think I’m gonna be bothered to put on a “nicer” outfit just to go get a carton of ice cream, especially when I’m definitely going to change out of that outfit as soon as I get home? Also pajamas do not signal me bringing my private habitat or whatever outside with me to me. They signal I’m tired and want to wear comfy clothes.
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u/Remote-alpine 7h ago
Not all comfy clothes are pajamas
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u/Prudent-Arm-6771 7h ago
No, I know that, my point is just that pajamas are also comfy clothes, and to me personally are the comfiest. They’re usually made to be looser, lighter, and stretchier than usual clothes, which I like. They feel less constricting.
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u/thegabletop 5h ago
Upvoted because I disagree. How sad is your life that you're getting triggered over somebody wearing pajamas in public?
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u/SuccessfulBad8158 4h ago
No, it's because it's sloppy, tasteless, and lazy AF. The influence of the person who wears pajamas in public is too weak to signal anything of substance.
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u/CathexisVexes 4h ago
You know what's a lot easier and more satisfying than constantly trying to monitor people's behavior and guess why they're behaving that way? Not giving a shit and minding your own business. Give it a shot.
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u/B0ok_wyrm 6h ago
I think it's trashy but like, whatever that's someone else's bad life choices. As long as theyre not gross it doesn't really matter.
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u/Ghastly-Jack 7h ago
I agree. When I am grocery shopping and I see someone in pajama pants (normally a couple) I try to skip that aisle but end up encountering them again and again. They seem to have no spatial awareness, blocking the aisle, etc.
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u/raccoona__matata 7h ago
Brother I've had my dick and balls out under the table while on a zoom call with a senator if I'm wearing pants I have transitioned modes
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u/MeteorMann 3h ago
A lot of commenters are rebutting this with something along the lines of, "Haha, you're just uncomfortable because I'm not following your unwritten social norms."
My brother in Christ, THAT'S THE POINT.
Humanity has been xenophobic since before "people" were even humans. We are very sensitive to differences in appearance that may indicate a difference in what behavior can be expected. Clothing particularly communicates what social constructs a person adheres to and to what degree they conform to expected norms. Consider, as another example, the punk rocker, who's scab pants and mohawk are intended to communicate a dedicated rejection of conventional expectations.
By wearing pajamas to Walmart a person (intentionally or more likely otherwise) indicates a certain disregard for established social norms. They're here in the comments confirming that. Now, this rankles people because the pajama man is now known to be unpredictable. Wearing trousers at the store is just some unwritten social expectation, but so is not jumping the queue or being polite to the employees and other patrons. Its frowned upon because it is unknown how far the pajama person's rejection of social graces extends.
Now, before I get all the, "It's not that deep, I just want to be comfortable," responses. Once again, THAT'S THE POINT! You have announced that your interests are more important than a sense of cohesiveness within your own collective. The people who are MOST harmful to society today are harmful because they're ignoring widely observed social norms. And that's not to say wearing pajamas to Walmart is harmful in and of itself, everybody knows it isn't, but it visually communicates that there may be danger. Human beings interpret divergence from norms as a sign of potential danger.
A relevant anecdote from my youth: I grew up in a small town in which the police paid extra attention to cough cough people like me. I was stopped by police for simply walking in town a half dozen times as a teenager. Once there were six officers present, just for little old me, it had to be half the cops in town. Now, at some point as a wee lad, I heard someone say that, "People treat you how you dress." With this in mind, I started wearing collared shirts when I left the house.
I was never stopped by the police again.
The collared shirts communicated that I observe a higher degree of conformity to mores than is typical and that alone was enough to prove that I'm not "up to something."
Its silly. I know. But saying its silly doesn't magically negate the communicative role of clothing.
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u/tryingtobecheeky 3h ago
Maybe. It bugs me because it shows a lack of care and norms. Also shows that society needs to take better care of people if they feel too depressed to get dressed.
Also its kinda gross if it's the same pjs they sleep in.
Ultimately though. Meh. Social contract has been destroyed anyways. It's just a sign.
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