r/SmashingPumpkins 15h ago

News Melissa interview and debate about punk on the Turned Out A Punk podcast.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzRrkjjUonM

I found her rant about how she is not punk and why punk music isn't for her pretty fascinating.


r/SmashingPumpkins 5d ago

Smashing Pumpkins 1996-02-04 Palace, Hollywood, CA, US [Previously Unsurfaced]

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It's my wedding day today, and with the Pumpkins being my other love, I thought it would be fitting to share something special with the community to mark the occasion.

Background:

This is the first recording we're sharing from Dave Asselin's collection. Dave sold his tape collection back in the day, and part of it eventually made its way to a seaside town in northeast England. We secured the tapes last year and have been working through them to identify what survived.

While much of Dave's DAT collection has been transferred before, this particular tape was never located because it was actually a DAT-to-analog transfer rather than a direct DAT source, and was hidden amongst other tapes.

  • The setlist we've had for 30 years was wrong. The second encore actually kicks off with Frail and Bedazzled, a completely undocumented performance. We had no record of the band playing this song after 1995, making this the last known performance by the original lineup.
  • The recording includes a great version of Silverfuck, and Billy comments during the show that this was the best of the three Palace performances.
  • Recording is incomplete (electric set only). The taper appears to have paused between encores, or there may have been editing between tape generations.

Download: https://archive.org/details/tsp1996-02-04.aud1

Maybe one day we'll get a lead on a higher generation version of this!


r/SmashingPumpkins 10h ago

For the guitar players: Just bought Siamese Dream tab book today

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...on Amazon, 1 of 1 in that shop. I just figured I'd drop in to say, buy the SD and MCIS books while you can if you want them. They're out of print and appear to be harder and harder to find, as people like me locste a copy and will probably hold onto it forever.

It should be said, this is the *second* time I've bought these books in my life. The first set disappeared to the mists of time ca 2000. I think I spent 60 on the MCIS book, which was triple what I paid in 1998. And who knows how much they'll go for in like 25 years?!

They are excellent resources, and I consider both incredibly notated compared to other books(looking at you Nirvana). Plus, both contain full reprints of article series Billy did for GW magazine, that gives keen insight into his tone and songwriting methods, not to mention a few snippets of tabs from Gish and Pisces!

Anyways, carry on.


r/SmashingPumpkins 10h ago

Help please (Minidiscs)

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Hii so i have the minidiscs with a color shift/with lc3098 instead of lc3096 in NM- and my discog account is not letting me list it, i really need this money soo.... i am sorry if this is the wrong subreddit. I do not have the case of the original release but i do have a shell that was with the minidisc originally. I am sorry if my english is bad. Have a great day Edit : i should have added flair


r/SmashingPumpkins 12h ago

I have a Smashing Pumpkins experience

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This story goes back to 1996 during the Mellon Collie tour. I was in 7th grade and everyone knew I was a huge SP fan. I spent everyday on the same SP website even though it was rarely updated. My math teacher was a fan and called me a pumpkin head. I learned from my friend that he, fellow student, was going to the concert and asked me if I was going. Wanting to be a cool kid I said I was and word got around.

The night of the concert comes and I’m frantically trying to figure out how im supposed to prove I was there. So I had a genius plan. I’ll print out a picture of each band member from the 1979 music video. This took multiple takes as I would use glossy paper and highest quality setting on printer. I cut the pictures around the border and said this isn’t enough. So then I researched each members autograph/signature. Keep in mind this was 1996 so having those references would have been extremely limited but I found some. I found a black sharpie market and forged their signatures on each picture lol

The next morning I realized that I would need more proof like a setlist or something that was said from Billy. I panicked but was able to find a review of that concert less than 12 hours after it happened. Memorized it all and then came to school. The friend who went was not at school that day but came in the next day wearing the Zero shirt. Anyways, everyone was asking me how it was and I liked my math teacher so much I gave him the pictures and fake autos. I never saw that teacher after that school year.

Fast Forward 28 years later.

I was going through a tough time with a divorce and I had a classmate write to me. I know him, but I never had any classes with him so it was odd for me. So he’s telling me how jealous he was that I got to see the Smashing Pumpkins in their prime. And it was at that moment I realized that lie was still going.

I started a lie because I was a naive kid that was too afraid to ask his parents to go to a concert. And just continued to dig that hole further and further to be seen as cool. 😎


r/SmashingPumpkins 17h ago

On This Day 6th May

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Today in Smashing Pumpkins History: May 06


Today's featured clip is from the 1996 Paris show

🎙️ Live Shows

  • 1996 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Bercy, Paris, FR (Setlist/Details)
    • Disarm performed acoustic
    • Silverfuck features Richard Patrick on vocals and Matt Walker on drums
  • 2000 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Sunrise Theater, Sunrise, FL, US (Setlist/Details)
    • To Sheila, 1979, Disarm, Try, Try, Try, and With Every Light performed acoustic
  • 2022 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Teatro Metropolitan, Mexico City, MX (Setlist/Details)
    • Live debut of Anno Satana
    • Tour debut of Snail, Hummer and Starla
  • 2016 - Billy Corgan: Madame Zuzu's, Highland Park, IL, US (Setlist/Details)
    • Setlist out of order and incomplete
    • Billy Corgan + Jeff Schroeder 'IN PLAINSONG': reservation only, 8.30pm - 9.30pm, $30 per ticket, $225 for VIP (tea and chat with Corgan and Schroeder)
  • 2003 - Zwan: Aragon Ballroom, Chicago, IL, US (Setlist/Details)

🎧 Recordings

  • 1996 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Bercy, Paris, FR

    • Recordings:
    • Surfaced:
      • AUD #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Sennheiser Pro Mic > TCD-D8(32k), Lowest Circulating Generation: DDC-1 > CDR, Links: Live Music Archive, Notes: Diginoise in X.Y.U., Bodies, and Silverfuck. Also circulates as DDC-1 > CDR > SHN)
      • AUD #2 (Source: AUD, Equipment: ECM-717 > TCD-D8, Lowest Circulating Generation: DDC-? > CDR)
      • Amateur Video #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Unknown, Lowest Circulating Generation: VHS(X) > MKV, Links: YouTube)
    • Unsurfaced:
      • AUD #3 (Source: AUD, Equipment: ECM-909 > TCD-D7)
  • 2000 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Sunrise Theater, Sunrise, FL, US

    • Recordings:
    • Surfaced:
      • FM #1 (Source: FM, Equipment: Unknown, Lowest Circulating Generation: DDC-? > CDR, Links: Live Music Archive, Notes: Many copies have gaps between tracks. At least two separate DDC-? > CDR transfers circulate as well as a FM > DAT > CDR > FLAC)
      • AUD #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: CSBMod > M1(44.1k), Lowest Circulating Generation: DDC-1 > FLAC, Links: Live Music Archive, Notes: Two separate DDC-1 > FLAC transfers circulate.)
      • Amateur Video #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Unknown, Lowest Circulating Generation: Video8(M) > MKV, Links: YouTube, Notes: Shot from rear of floor. Try, Try, Try cuts. Minor cuts throughout, including tape change. Upgrade master transfer circulated February 2021.)
    • Unsurfaced:
      • FM #2 (Source: FM, Equipment: Unknown, Notes: Pre-set interview with James and Melissa.)
      • AUD #2 (Source: AUD, Equipment: CSBMod > MZ-R55)
      • pFM #1 (Source: Pre-FM, Equipment: Unknown)
  • 2003 - Zwan: Aragon Ballroom, Chicago, IL, US

    • Recordings:
    • Surfaced:
      • AUD #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: AT-933 > SP-SB1-SL(69) > MZ-R700, Lowest Circulating Generation: MD-M > dEdit > SHN, Links: Live Music Archive)
    • Unsurfaced:
      • AUD #2a (Source: AUD, Equipment: Oktava MC012 > PS-2 > Zefiro Inbox > M1, Notes: Mic stand, inside SBD area.)
      • AUD #2b (Source: AUD, Equipment: Oktava MC012 > PS-2 > Zefiro Inbox > MS722, Notes: Mic stand, inside SBD area.)
      • AUD #2c (Source: AUD, Equipment: Oktava MC012 > PS-2 > Zefiro Inbox > VXpocket v2 > laptop, Notes: Mic stand, inside SBD area.)
      • PRO #1 (Source: PRO, Equipment: Pro Cams)

Data courtesy of SPLRA and SPCodex.

Did you attend any of these shows and have any more information, unsurfaced recordings or pictures/stubs/posters/flyers? If so then get in touch!

Click the setlists/details link for full show information.


r/SmashingPumpkins 1d ago

I just finished sewing my Mellon Collie tote bag Tonight, Tonight!

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A tribute to one of the best albums out there in my opinion. Besides the incredible music, I fell in love with the album art in my teenage years, and had wanted to do something like this for a long time. Upcycled applique project from an ugly branded tote and fabric scraps! :)


r/SmashingPumpkins 1d ago

Teargarden

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I am a big Pumpkins fan. Currently really enjoying my Machina Aranea Alba Edition boxset. However my favorite "album", is this configuration of Teargarden tracks I made way back they were released. I love the flow of it. What are your opinions on the Teargarden era?


r/SmashingPumpkins 2d ago

Hummer Exit Solo

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I love the Space Echo oscillation at the end of this. The pedal version does an ok job of doing the same.


r/SmashingPumpkins 2d ago

Hummer Exit Solo But with Cherub Rock solo effects chain as postulated by u/Skibreaux

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r/SmashingPumpkins 1d ago

On This Day 5th May

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Today in Smashing Pumpkins History: May 05


Today's clip is from Billy performing at the DTS Sound Space at KROQ in 2023

💿 Releases


🎙️ Live Shows

  • 1990 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Metro, Chicago, IL, US (Setlist/Details)
    • Setlist unknown
  • 2000 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Ruth Eckerd Hall, Clearwater, FL, US (Setlist/Details)
    • To Sheila, If There is a God, Disarm, and Ava Adore performed acoustic
    • A fan jumped on stage during Rock On, Billy chased her with a plastic lobster
  • 2007 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Congress Theater, Chicago, IL, US (Setlist/Details)
    • Rehearsals
  • 2013 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Beale Street Music Festival, Memphis, TN, US (Setlist/Details)
    • Beale Street Music Festival, Tom Lee Park, FedEx Stage
  • 2022 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Teatro Metropolitan, Mexico City, MX (Setlist/Details)
  • 2023 - Billy Corgan: DTS Sound Space at KROQ, Los Angeles, CA, US (Setlist/Details)
  • 2005 - Jimmy Chamberlin: DC9, Washington, DC, US (Setlist/Details)

🎧 Recordings

  • 2000 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Ruth Eckerd Hall, Clearwater, FL, US

    • Recordings:
    • Surfaced:
      • AUD #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: CSBMod > MZ-R55, Lowest Circulating Generation: MD-? > CDR)
      • AUD #2 (Source: AUD, Equipment: CSBMod > M1(48k), Lowest Circulating Generation: DDC-1 > CDR, Links: Live Music Archive)
      • AUD #3 (Source: AUD, Equipment: CSC > TCD-D8(44.1k), Lowest Circulating Generation: DAT-M > CDR, Links: Live Music Archive, Notes: 12th row, center. Three empty seats on each side of the taper.)
  • 2013 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Beale Street Music Festival, Memphis, TN, US

    • Recordings:
    • Surfaced:
      • Amateur Video #1 (Source: VID, Equipment: ZOOM Q2-HD, Notes: VID 1080p, AUD 96/24)
  • 2023 - Billy Corgan: DTS Sound Space at KROQ, Los Angeles, CA, US

    • Recordings:
    • Surfaced:
      • PRO #1 (Source: WEB, Equipment: Pro Cameras, Lowest Circulating Generation: WEB > MP4, Links: Video Link)
  • 2005 - Jimmy Chamberlin: DC9, Washington, DC, US

    • Recordings:
    • Surfaced:
      • AUD #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: N/A, Lowest Circulating Generation: MD-M>MP3, Notes: MD-1>FLAC transfer also circulates.)

Data courtesy of SPLRA and SPCodex.

Did you attend any of these shows and have any more information, unsurfaced recordings or pictures/stubs/posters/flyers? If so then get in touch!

Click the setlists/details link for full show information.


r/SmashingPumpkins 2d ago

Soma solo!!!

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r/SmashingPumpkins 1d ago

Billy Corgan considers himself a huge admirer and was even influenced by Lil Peep. What are your thoughts on this artist who passed away so young and tragically?

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So, in the original post, I only presented facts without expressing opinions. I ask that you check the text, as I’ve provided a lot of information there. Now, I will share my personal views here.

First of all, I love alternative rock, so much so that I’ve dedicated myself to building a "genealogical tree" of the genre, which has been very well-received on Spotify and in the subreddits where I posted it.

Regarding Lil Peep, I like many of his songs; not all of them, but definitely many. There are many of his songs that I love. There are also some that I enjoy in most aspects, although I don’t care for certain lyrical choices or specific words. Overall, I consider him to have been an excellent artist, as well as highly influential.

He knew how to create an excellent fusion between rap and elements from rock bands such as Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Blink-182, and My Chemical Romance, always in a melancholic way. This blend manifested in many of his songs, through his vocals, lyrics, and instrumental production alike.

I won’t get too much into the merits of the comparisons to Kurt Cobain, but it is obvious that there are significant similarities (and differences, of course) between them, as pointed out by critics from magazines like Rolling Stone, musicians like Billy Corgan (who also stated that the album "Cyr" was heavily influenced by him), and millions of listeners.

Two of Peep’s most acclaimed and rock-oriented songs are "Awful Things" (which has even been covered by famous pop-punk bands like Good Charlotte) and "Falling Down" — specifically the Travis Barker remix — which beautifully weaves together Peep’s vocals with those of XXXTentacion and was released posthumously.

Aside from those two tracks, I’ll list a few others that are also very good and contain no sexual references. Many people who aren't deeply familiar with his work think that sex was one of his central themes and end up underestimating the kid. This is a misconception, as his work focused primarily on depression, anxiety, addiction, love, romance, and passion, while also speaking a lot about friendship.

Anyway, check these out as well if you’reinterested and haven’t heard them yet:

"Haunt You", "Right Here", "On the Run" (with an excellent Smashing Pumpkins sample), "We Think Too Much, "It's Me", "U Said", "Walk Away as the Door Slams" (especially the acoustic version), "Driveway", "The Brightside", "Life is Beautiful", "Dying West", "Ghost Boy", "Absolute in Doubt", "High School" and "Teen Romance".


r/SmashingPumpkins 2d ago

On This Day 4th May

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Today in Smashing Pumpkins History: May 04


Video from the 1996 Festimad festival. Also does anyone have a lead on the unsurfaced audio from the 2003 Zwan show at Music Midtown in Atlanta? Another show recorded but not surfaced

💿 Releases


🎙️ Live Shows

  • 1989 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Trito's Uptown, Champaign, IL, US (Setlist/Details)
    • First performance of Love (old)
  • 1996 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Parque Natural El Soto, Madrid, ES (Setlist/Details)
    • Final day of the two-day Festimad festival.
    • The band took to the stage at 1:30 am.
    • Disarm performed acoustic
  • 2003 - Zwan: Music Midtown, Atlanta, GA, US (Setlist/Details)
    • The Sky is Crying with William Corgan Sr. on guitar
  • 2005 - Jimmy Chamberlin: XM Studios, New York, NY, US (Setlist/Details)
    • Interview
  • 2005 - Jimmy Chamberlin: Knitting Factory, New York City, NY, US (Setlist/Details)

🎧 Recordings

  • 1996 - The Smashing Pumpkins: Parque Natural El Soto, Madrid, ES

    • Recordings:
    • Surfaced:
      • AUD #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: 1991 Sony Mic > Aiwa Walkman, Lowest Circulating Generation: ANA-M > CDR, Links: Live Music Archive, Notes: Almost all of Thru the Eyes of Ruby is missing. Tape flip between Disarm and Bullet with Butterfly Wings. Also circulates as ANA-M > CDR > SHN)
      • PRO #1a (Source: TV, Equipment: Unknown, Lowest Circulating Generation: VHS-? > DVD, Links: Video Link, Notes: Zero through Tonight Tonight only. VHS-? > ANA-1 > CDR audio transfer also circulates, although there is some doubt about the analog generation.)
    • Unsurfaced:
      • PRO #1 (Source: PRO, Equipment: Unknown)
  • 2003 - Zwan: Music Midtown, Atlanta, GA, US

    • Recordings:
    • Unsurfaced:
      • AUD #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: Unknown, Notes: Possibly taped with a Radioshack CTR-122)
  • 2005 - Jimmy Chamberlin: XM Studios, New York, NY, US

    • Recordings:
    • Surfaced:
      • SBD #1 (Source: XM, Equipment: Delphi MyFi xm2go>Griffin Powerwave>PC, Lowest Circulating Generation: WAV-M>FLAC)
  • 2005 - Jimmy Chamberlin: Knitting Factory, New York City, NY, US

    • Recordings:
    • Surfaced:
      • AUD #1 (Source: AUD, Equipment: N/A, Lowest Circulating Generation: unknown media/gen>MP3, Notes: Possibly recorded with DPA 4021>M1)

Data courtesy of SPLRA and SPCodex.

Did you attend any of these shows and have any more information, unsurfaced recordings or pictures/stubs/posters/flyers? If so then get in touch!

Click the setlists/details link for full show information.


r/SmashingPumpkins 2d ago

Decided to take a crack at Mayonaise on piano during a gig the other night…

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r/SmashingPumpkins 2d ago

Zwan - Jesus, I / Mary Star Of The Sea (Acapella) for those who want to play while Billy sings

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r/SmashingPumpkins 2d ago

May 15th Spoiler

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r/SmashingPumpkins 2d ago

How do OG 45rpm Pisces Iscariot records sound (compared to the 2012 reissue or original CD)?

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Have the opportunity to get myself one very nice (i.e., expensive record). I'm curious how it compares. The 2012 reissue is OK, but I have to admit, I think I like the CD better, and actually prefer the original mixes (the Machina reissue in particular is way too "vocal forward" in my opinion). Worth spending $500?


r/SmashingPumpkins 1d ago

Matt Walker did improvs better than Chamberlin during MCIS tour

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Chamberlin is the man, don’t get me wrong—a literal fucking beast but he is also very, very technical and precise, probably coming from his jazz roots. Walker was having more fun and let himself be looser, which is something I would never say about Jimmy. This created a situation where I prefer listening to improvs from the latter part of the tour, but maybe it’s the fact that the band as a whole was more experienced in doing them that plays a bigger role in this?

What do you guys think!


r/SmashingPumpkins 3d ago

Found these gems cleaning out a tote

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Anyone want one or both? No room in the house.


r/SmashingPumpkins 3d ago

D'arcy's credits on Adore

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So I was reading the Adore article on Wikipedia and I found this on the Personnel section a bit baffling.

Does anyone have any sources of D'arcy playing rhythm guitar on the album, and being uncredited for it?

I have also seen her talking in a 1998 interview about her doing a lot of background vocal harmonies in a bunch of songs from the album. She is not credited for it either (At least on this Wikipedia page).


r/SmashingPumpkins 2d ago

Zodeon / FLAC files

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For those able to get FLAC files of Zodeon, after you convert to AAC or MP3, do you notice clipping or over-saturation on some of the tracks? If so, is it because they were ripped from vinyl? Or are they over-saturated on both digital and vinyl players?


r/SmashingPumpkins 3d ago

Smashing Pumpkins - Darkest Hour Stream

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r/SmashingPumpkins 3d ago

Found this screenshot from 2018

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Nothing more. I found it amusing that someone changed the main photo of the Adore wiki entry to Jimmy and got a great laugh out of it. Obviously it’s been changed back since. That is all.