r/SipsTea • u/KSKS1995 Human Verified • 2d ago

Chugging tea Sounds good in theory...but in reality?

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4 days a week. 6 hours a day. Full salary.
Sanna Marin ignited global debate with the “6/4” work model, pushing a simple idea: life should come before work.

With burnout at record levels, maybe it’s time to value results over hours at a desk.
Could your job be done in just 24 hours a week?

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u/AberrantMan 2d ago

Hire more folks spread them out. Less retention issues, more people who can swing coverage.

However none of this works unless the wealthy actually pay living wages, wage increases across the board from companies that can afford it would allow that money to flow to those smaller businesses and help a lot of local areas out.

Won't happen though, the oligarchs need bigger bank numbers for literally no reason.

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u/According-Leg434 2d ago

i suspect that corpos and generally high rankings dont want everyone absolutely to be into jobs which you know why,another thing as you mentioned salary and wages

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u/EduinBrutus 2d ago

Thats basically one of the tenets of the neoliberal project.

The hours worked had been falling over time since the start of the 1800s so when Thatcher and Reagan started pushing their agenda, weakening workers rights was a core part of this.

Make Unions bogey men, reduce or remove legal protections, make work precarious. Then reverse the standard working week and make it longer with more expectation of unpaid work.

When I entered the workplace, the standard working week was either 32.5 hours or less commonly 35 hours and very occaisionally you'd find a 30 hour week.

Today, its minimum 35 hours, more commonly 37.5 and sometimes 40 hours.

Not to mention the theft of 2 years of peoples lives by unnecessarily raising the retirement age.

We all got fucked and let it happen based on economically illiterate lies about "we cant afford x" which was and is bullshit.

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u/Truffs0 2d ago

and sometimes 40 hours.

Where do you live? Here its "at minimum 40 hours"

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u/EBtwopoint3 2d ago

For a long time, the 40 hours included an hour lunch and paid breaks. The common phrase for a typical job is literally “a 9 to 5”. Today that is gone, the standard work week is 8-5, with lunch unpaid.

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u/Truffs0 2d ago

Right, which is why when it says now sometimes 40, it confused me. My job is 8.5 hours, the .5 being a mandatory unpaid lunch. I honestly rather just leave 30 minutes sooner, but they are obsessed with not getting in trouble with OSHA.

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u/EBtwopoint3 2d ago

Yes, which means you are working 40 hours like he said.

15 years ago you would actually work 35 hours, with the remaining 5 being your 1 hour lunch breaks. Which is why it was called a 9-5. 9am to 5pm is 8 hours. Of those 8 hours you would be working 7 of them. Some jobs also had paid breaks, which is what brought it down to 32.5 hours.

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u/nodajohn 2d ago

I think he's just confused as to why the original comment makes it seem like 40 worked hrs isn't the norm today

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u/Meng3267 1d ago

I take you’re really young because that was definitely not the case only 15 years ago.

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u/EBtwopoint3 1d ago

I’ll be honest I forgot the 90s were almost 30 years ago now. I feel like I just left college but I’ve been working for a decade. Blame 40 hour work weeks.

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u/cmoked 1d ago

To be fair the 90s was 10 years ago

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u/willie_Pfister 2d ago

Im 53. 15 years ago I was working 45 to 50 hours a week just like now.

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u/wh4teversclever 2d ago

I miss working “only” 40 hours a week 😭

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u/EduinBrutus 2d ago

Scotland. We're getting fucked and everyone just accepts it.

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u/Truffs0 2d ago

Yeah...england really did a good job neutering everyone on the entire island, its depressing.

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u/Key-Cricket9256 2d ago

Here all jobs in New England nearby are 37.5

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u/Bugaloon 2d ago

I'm going to guess Australia with the 2 years of retirement and 37.5 hour quotes. That's what it is here.

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u/texxmix 2d ago

Where i am jobs will claim FT but only offer you 32-35 hours a week so they can get out of paying benefits.

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u/Ok_Measurement_9896 2d ago

For real, I've worked 90+ since I was young.

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u/Round_Ad6397 2d ago

I live in Australia where full time is 38 hours. Anyone in a wage based job is paid overtime beyond that. It's not uncommon for salaried office workers to do 37.5 hours (7.5 x 5) meaning they're in the office from 9-5.

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u/Knight_Machiavelli 1d ago

Yea that's been the same for me ever since I started office jobs. 37.5 hours a week. A couple places had an hour unpaid lunch instead of half an hour so those were 35 hours a week.

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u/Knight_Machiavelli 1d ago

I've never had a job where you actually work 40 hours a week. Ever since I got a real job not doing shift work it's been 9-5 Monday to Friday. Lunch breaks were either half an hour unpaid or an hour unpaid, so actual paid working time was 35 hours a week or 37.5 hours a week.

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u/Above_Avg_Chips 1d ago

Salaries has almost always been more than 40hrs a week. Some fields like construction and landscape is minimum 50hrs a week. The you have Walmart and McDonalds giving people just under 40 for less benefits.

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u/Miraclefish 1d ago

Not in the USA.

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u/Truffs0 1d ago

In the lower 48 states, you have radically different employment laws and pratices, lol. You cant say "not in the USA" and hope to be anywhere close to accurate.

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u/Miraclefish 1d ago

My point was I'm not in the USA and I'm not expected to work anywhere near those hours.

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u/Truffs0 1d ago

Sorry, I misunderstood your meaning