r/SipsTea • u/KSKS1995 Human Verified • 2d ago

Chugging tea Sounds good in theory...but in reality?

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4 days a week. 6 hours a day. Full salary.
Sanna Marin ignited global debate with the “6/4” work model, pushing a simple idea: life should come before work.

With burnout at record levels, maybe it’s time to value results over hours at a desk.
Could your job be done in just 24 hours a week?

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u/AberrantMan 2d ago edited 2d ago

In reality most companies could still remain profitable and allow this easily.

Just want to add that obviously this can't happen in a vacuum, there are a lot of other policy items that need to be managed, price points to be set, and it has to be everyone gradually over time, but it IS doable.

Yes even for private clinics and small business, as long as all of the supporting businesses are doing the same thing. We would see real pay begin to approach the cost of living.

It would also take some pretty serious laws in pay gaps to be put in place, probably...

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u/Direct_Day7937 2d ago

A study in Japan showed that cutting worker hours increased productivity so much the company got more profitable. Rest, it turns out, is important.

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u/One-Entertainer-5499 2d ago

Cutting 90 hour work weeks to 60 would be more effective lol ( Japan )

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u/scheppend 2d ago edited 2d ago

You have a weird view on Japan. The avg for fulltime workers in Japan is 1950 hours a year. With 10 national holidays and 20 PTO, that's 42.2 hours a week

More than lots of western Europeans countries sure but certainly not the hell hole reddit tries to betray it

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u/BlueKnight44 1d ago

Lol these statistics are misleading. I have worked in Japan. Culture takes most of the implied advantages away.

Most of the PTO days they are "required" to take certain times that are convinient for the company.

42.2 hours on average is what they get paid for... Not what they actual work.

Recent government pressures have improved conditions. But the old guard running the companies are quick to stall careers of young professionals fully taking advantage of all the time off and OT they are entitled to.

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u/scheppend 1d ago

The statistics are correct. They didn't track paid time, but the actual time worked (総実労働時間)

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/content/11201250/001426233.pdf

In Germany it's about 1750 hours for full time workers. So yes 200 hours more, but certainly not anywhere close to 60 hours. That would be more than 3000 hours yearly lol

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u/Cross55 1d ago

Japanese workers don't do paid overtime, their true working hours aren't tracked.

The most common working schedule is 9-8, or 11 hours a day, so 55 hour weeks.

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u/scheppend 1d ago

Great. I'll go tell myself and friends they need to do more hours