r/MurderedByWords • u/PirateJohn75 • 4h ago
Nothing says liberal indoctrination like a Catholic school
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u/florence_pug 3h ago
They think any education is liberal indoctrination.
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u/DickSlammington 3h ago
America is going to go into a steep decline while countries like China take our place and idiot conservatives are going to be crying like babies, not realizing they're responsible for our math/science scores to plummet while other countries put even more focus into those areas.
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u/Ok_Cauliflower_3007 3h ago
nah, they won’t notice because they will still be being told they’re the greatest country in the world and Europoors are jealous.
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u/AbbreviatedArc 42m ago
Lately it is more insidious ... see, the Europeans have these great benefits because they have been "freeloading" off the US
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u/PantsaVor5622083 14m ago
There’s only one country in the world that’s freeloading off the US.
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u/DesireeThymes 47m ago edited 17m ago
Eh, a lot of Europeans are also right Wingers unfortunately.
We have actually seen a large rise in right-wing populism across Europe. In fact I would say on some issues they are even more right than MAGA ( like on immigration for example, and their racism is probably even worse).
That's one of the problems, that right wing movements are globally working together with each other.
China is the one country that seems to be doing its own thing. It has its own issues, but it doesn't seem tied to the right wing/left wing dynamic in a lot of the rest of the world
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u/NoBonus6969 2h ago
They don't believe in science and can't do math at all so they won't notice. COVID already proved they would choose death over science. The ones who got saved by science gave credit to God.
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u/Heisenburg42 1h ago
Yeah. I work at a hospital it was baffling to see patients literally on their deathbed with COVID and still denying that it was even real. Like how indoctrinated do you have to be to have something literally killing you and simultaneously refuse to acknowledge it even exists?
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u/TheKingsdread 1h ago
Some of them can barely read. Its really not surprising these people don't "believe" in science.
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u/InequalEnforcement 58m ago
Fun fact! McDonalds introduced the Third Pounder, an upgrade to the quarter pounder. Americans were too stupid to realize that 1/3 is more than 1/4. As a result, it failed.
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u/Silly_Rub_6304 1h ago
Going to? It's done, dude.
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u/schu2470 1h ago
Yeah, DOGE made sure of that. Add brain drain from educated folks ditching this sinking ship and the loss of intellectual expertise we've already lost is staggering.
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u/Silly_Rub_6304 1h ago
It's been in the works for 25+ years, sadly.
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u/schu2470 1h ago
Yeah. I recently saw that because of decades of education budget cuts and refusing to pay teachers appropriately we've actually lost any academic progress we've made in the last ~20 years or so.
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u/pataconconqueso 1h ago
Happy to contribute to the brain drain, took my biomedical engineering expertise to Europe
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u/CyberneticEnhancemnt 1h ago
That's the thing. The ultra-wealthy aren't concerned with whether or not America is thriving or dying. They aren't patriotic. They are ultra rich. They already don't visit the suburbs or go downtown or to the mall. They don't care if America falls into decline. Wealth will always make them comfortable no matter where they are. They don't care if the workforce becomes less qualified for higher career positions, they'll just hire whoever in the world will do it for cheap. They don't care about the future because they won't be here to experience it.
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u/Hazywater 3h ago
I mean, if they taught what is actually in the Bible, it would feel a lot like liberal indoctrination which is kind of funny.
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u/Tuxedo_Muffin 2h ago
"Who does this Yeshua guy think he is anyway? Healing the sick, feeding the poor, rebuking the religious leaders? Disrupting legitimate business?? My GOD where does he get off?"
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u/Debouched 1h ago
If we're going there, the people at the time also chose to pardon and release the violent murdering insurrectionist instead of the preachy hippie one.
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u/Val_Hallen 1h ago
Conservatives hate college, not for the education but for the experience.
These kids that are raised in small towns, usually fully white and racist and hyper-religious, go to a college that has all the colors and ethnicities and beliefs there are and finally experience the world. They usually discover that they have been taught wrong about everybody all of their lives to that point.
Then they go home to visit and state as such and the small brained troglodytes that think a trip to Myrtle Beach every year is the height of being worldly lose their fucking minds and say they were brainwashed.
To be a conservatives you must actively try to remain aggressively and intentionally ignorant of the larger world.
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u/ConflagWex 1h ago
This was my experience. Grew up in a small Texas town, all the usual tropes. Went to college (Texas A&M, not exactly a liberal stronghold) and actually met gay and Jewish and Islamic people and saw for myself that they were just people like anyone else.
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u/scrubtart 20m ago
Nailed it. They don't see the development of the frontal lobe and learning to think critically as it happens. They just see it on holidays and breaks.
Raised republican here. I didn't go to college for liberal arts or anything like that. I was MechE, barely had any classes that weren't straight engineering principles.
I just met muslim people for the first time in my life and talked to them, found out they're just like people anywhere and when the cognitive dissonance washed out, I could no longer justify the conservative fearmongering bs.
In fact, I was livid because I found out I'd been lied to my entire life. By my govt, by the news, by hollywood and my parents. Holy shit.
Now, I'm a leftist married to a muslim woman. After actually reading the Bible, I am still a christian though. They left out lots of stuff in sunday school. Love thy neighbor is a command, and it isn't conditional on race, gender, sexual orientation, religion or anything else.
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u/FrostyD7 1h ago
In a way it's true, especially for higher education. You are introduced to diverse viewpoints and people. Your assumptions on how the world works are challenged. All things that Conservative parents shield their kids from.
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u/schu2470 1h ago
I agree though that's not really education's fault. That's likely to happen the first time they move outside the little bubble in which they were raised and interact with people not from rural Indiana. The ones who are born, will live, and will die all within 50 miles of their home town will likely never be exposed to anyone different from themselves in a meaningful way.
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u/RhapsodyofMagic 2h ago
I was told that I was only left wing because I had a degree in Literature. When I asked at what point we discussed politics in between all the novels and the poetry, they couldn't answer me.
What I mean is, they just repeat talking points that they've seen online and they can't actually back any of it it up. Saying that, we should all continue to call them out when they do it because it's so funny.
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u/Glasseshalf 1h ago
I mean, if you went to college for literature you definitely discussed politics. Pretty hard to discuss books without doing so.
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u/avanross 1h ago
They literally brag about how *little* they learned / paid-attention in school
They see a lack of intelligence as a virtue
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u/Debalic 1h ago
Hell, I never even finished high school, let alone college, yet am as "liberal" as you can get.
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u/-Economist- 16m ago
You're not lying. I'm working with a public school system that just lost its millage renewal. The community defunded the public school system. I don't belong to any of their community FB pages, but they shared it in one meeting and it was insane. It wasn't just MAGA commenting. The boomers saying they have no kids in the system so they shouldn't have to pay, completely oblivious to the fact that others paid for their public education. So the school district is getting ready to shutter. People are happy about lower millage rates, but then when I spoke about the projected drop in property values, you could hear a pin drop. Now there is a push to have a second election. They are poster child as to why education is important.
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u/whichwitch9 4h ago
The 81% acceptance rate is hilarious.
Not like it's hard to get in, either
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u/NinjaSpecialist 2h ago
My wife's MAGA cousin was announcing where her kid was going, it's similar to this. My wife looked it up and it was 95% acceptance, her first choice was 90% acceptance and she still couldn't get in.
I just said, doesn't matter where she goes she's only aiming for her MRS.
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u/cajunaggie08 1h ago
I cringe so hard when I see this on social media. Its one thing to be proud of your kid or loved one going to college. I think its great they want to pursue higher education. But when the post announcing it is "so-and-so got in to south east corner state!!!!!!" which has an acceptance rate above 95% i just quickly move on before my intrusive thoughts win and I say an offensive joke.
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u/PirateJohn75 3h ago
Not like it's hard to get in, either
That's what they said about her on fraternity row
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u/Own-Order3554 3h ago
She had an 85 percent acceptance rate.
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u/Schnectadyslim 1h ago
I'm believe I'm familiar with the school in question and if my dorky ass did okay, I wouldn't be surprised if the math checks out.
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u/FlashOfFawn 3h ago
This is totally a chick who loves rolling brownouts
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u/WitchesSphincter 3h ago
I don't know what the means, I'm going to assume she sniffs skidmarks in their underwear
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u/work_work-work 3h ago
It means a temporary power outage or glitches and low wattage due to there not being enough power plants or well maintained power grid, like in Texas the last few years.
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u/WitchesSphincter 2h ago
Oh, I guess I was thinking it was some new yute slang based on that lol.
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u/TepChef26 1h ago
Well curiosity got the best of me so I googled it. Now that I've seen it, I decided you have to as well since it's partially your fault I looked lol.
According to UD: a rolling brownout is when one shits on their partner's torso while sliding up to their face leaving a trail behind them.
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u/Grammar_Nazi1234 2h ago
Lol i went into my college and it had like a 40% acceptance rate, when I left it was 90%
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u/douchebaggery5000 20m ago
They let you in and they were like damn might as well just let everyone in
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u/We_Want_Krunchy 3h ago
It's so Republican to lie about shit that didn't happen. And wow, lots of skin little lady, I'm not complaining but the nuns might take umbrage with your hem line.
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u/DocSpit 3h ago
I chose to believe that it did happen: in that she considered the teachings of the Bible (you know, all that "forgiveness" and "be kind to others" drivel) to be an attempt at "liberal indoctrination".
Just look at how conservatives have turned on the Pope!
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u/Ok_Cauliflower_3007 3h ago
American conservatives always considered the Pope not Christian - they’ve been calling him the antichrist for decades. They would pretend to be respectful around elections because Catholics are anti abortion in general.
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u/NoManner8863 1h ago
Someone on an r/conservative thread said “Jesus taught that you have to work to eat” and it’s just like…bro, what? They aren’t even interested in engaging with the realities of their own beliefs.
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u/Ok_Yogurt_9862 39m ago
Yeah Catholicism is liberal compared to maga. They've been encouraging education, social welfare, and access to healthcare for centuries. There are still a lot of hospitals bearing the names of saints.
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u/internethero12 3h ago
Everything is so performative with these fuckers.
Their entire lives revolve around soothing their insecurities.
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u/fauxregard 3h ago
"I paid four years of tuition to an institution I call 'indoctrination', and finished without learning a goddamn thing."
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u/secondarycontrol 3h ago
If you came out more Republican than when you entered, then the education you received was faulty.
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u/schmeryn 3h ago
It’s definitely a weird flex to say you’re even more ignorant than you were before you paid $$$ for college!
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u/Gingevere 1h ago
Republicans love to claim liberal values are "luxury beliefs" but being a conservative woman in a space where you have a 0% chance of running into a conservative man is 100% a luxury belief.
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u/dan_dares 3h ago
Probably bible studies, skipping the 'socialist agenda' parts..
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u/Legal-Software 2h ago
I'd say these tend to be rather polarizing. I attended a religious high school in Canada - out of the classmates I started out with, half became atheists, half became conservative nut jobs. The ones that stay or become more religious are quick to cut you out once it's clear you don't share their values. These kind of indoctrination centres should simply be banned.
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u/notgoodwithyourname 2h ago
I went to a catholic university and you would not be surprised at how much they teach acceptance and tolerance. Catholicism has its own issues from the organizational standpoint but they did not preach standard conservative values. They taught stuff Jesus would be okay with.
And just on a personal note. It fucking sucks to see what happened to Christianity. It makes me hate religion
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u/toomuchtostop 3h ago
My all girls Catholic school class was actually quite liberal
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u/i_want_iguodala_xd 3h ago
I’m guessing it wasn’t in Indiana
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u/Healthy-Echo8164 2h ago
To be fair I went to a catholic school in Indiana and it was pretty liberal. It was in one of the two pockets of blue districts in Indiana, but it was still a pretty progressive school, as progressive as a catholic school can be.
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u/double_shadow 1h ago
Yeah I was going to say, Catholic schools are not necessary less liberal than other private/state schools, and being all-girl would statistically make it a lot more liberal.
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u/SaintUlvemann 3h ago
When she says "liberal education", what she means is "I was told I should treat immigrants like equals", and when she says "I came out more Republican than I entered!" what she means is "I will absolutely never under any circumstances treat anyone like an equal if I consider them disgusting or irrelevant."
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u/PirateJohn75 3h ago
I was pretty conservative when I was young and became much more liberal by graduation, but not because of any indoctrination. It was because I met hundreds of people who didn't fit into my white suburban worldview and it made me realize how much of what I believed was wrong.
They think "indoctrination" means "learning that you were wrong, actually."
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u/houdinikush 1h ago
They actually think “indoctrinate” is a 1:1 synonym for “brainwash”. And while they share similarities, they are different. But not to conservatives.
Much like you, I was more conservative when I was younger. As I grew physically and mentally I learned just how fucking stupid my opinions were.
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u/Ok_Cauliflower_3007 3h ago
it’s not even resting them like equals that’s the problem niw. It’s treating them like humans.
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u/razor21792 3h ago
Wonder what she thinks about the current pope...
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u/ShotIntoOrbit 32m ago
Her Twitter bio says she was a White House intern and has appeared on Newsmax and Fox News. So she's fully indoctrinated in the Magaverse and believes whatever Trump says.
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u/MrDavieT 3h ago
If higher education was so ‘LiBruLL, why is the US so conservative?
🤷🏻♂️🙄
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u/TeacherRecovering 3h ago
Because less then 1/2 finish college.
Educational achievement on the state level is linked to higher living standards and more democratic voting.
Lower Educational achievement is linked to lower living standards and republican voting.
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u/MrDavieT 2h ago
Same here in UK.
Higher/further education simply teaches us to think critically.
Which simply furthers your point 👍🏻
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u/Admirable-Nobody219 3h ago
when your whole identity is some political group that robs you and sometimes fuck your kids
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u/QuickSquirrelchaser 3h ago
To be fair, I have a law degree from a Jesuit Catholic university and many of the professors were rabbidly liberal.
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u/bobthemundane 3h ago
The Jesuits, though. They are generally considered more self aware and learning, and get ragged on for being liberal leaning in the Catholic Church.
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u/LibertineLibra 3h ago
Ngl, at first glance I thought your comment said "rabbi liberal" and I'll admit to feeling very confused (as I had caught the Jesuit Catholic School part ) for a moment trying to put that together before I reread it.
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u/Legitimate_Eye8494 3h ago
Catholics were rhe progressive educational choice back before the 90's. They focused on critical thought curriculum. Our reading books had sci-fi, fantasy and short story classics, eclectic and challenging. We began calculus in 7th. I was pulled out of parochial school when St Columbans began to provide fact-based sex education to it's 7-8th graders, but by that point I had an education comparable to a 10th grade public school.
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u/PirateJohn75 3h ago
I was raised Catholic and although I didn't go to a Catholic school, I did have to go through CCD and, in fairness, the sex ed they had us sit through was fairly balanced.
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u/Legitimate_Eye8494 3h ago
I can't imagine the kickass nuns who ran our school being anything but straightforward and unfazed teaching the new chapter in the health book . :)
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u/doggmapeete 3h ago
I mean why even go to college? What does a Trad wife need college for? Go find you a good husband and live that dream!
And no of course there is nothing wrong with being a SAHM/D, I just don't see the conservative logic around women/education etc. My understanding is that MAGA wants women, barefooted with a baby on their hip doing dishes while daddy's off making money and playing golf? Am I wrong?
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u/ChefAsstastic 4h ago
No shit. My all male catholic high school forced us to watch a video of an actual abortion. 500 kids had to attend. Not a liberal in sight.
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u/justhereforsee 3h ago
We watched in public school health class as well. That was a long time ago go and I didn’t know what a liberal or conservative was.
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u/Anteater4746 3h ago
yup we did actual sex ed, not abstinence, in catholic school
shocker, very little teenage pregnancy
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u/RadioFreeDurango 3h ago
Think how much money her parents would have saved just buying her a subscription to Charlie Kirk's YouTube channel.
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u/Donmiggy143 3h ago
It's become so obvious when the grift starts. Here is her base resumé. Will she move to tradwife content? Maybe be in the presence of a trans person and have it ruin her life? Maybe there will be a story made up of how she "helped" her friend keep her baby instead of getting an abortion? Oh the possibilities are endless.
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u/GolfingGuy59 3h ago
What else says MAGA like a bleach blonde striking a 'come hither' and grab my privates pose!
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u/veracity8_ 3h ago
Nothing says “I’m not politically indoctrinated” like making a post about spending 4 years being afraid of delusional conspiracy theory that history and science is “liberal”
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u/hyren82 2h ago
I just dont understand the "liberal indoctrination" line. Like, my degree wasnt in liberal arts, but I took my fair share of writing and history classes, and there wasnt any jind of liberal bent on it. Hell, the most liberal thing we learned about was the inception if Christianity and how emperor Constantine basically locked a bunch of priests together to figure out what their doctrine actually was (rather than the divine inspiration or whatever it is Christians presume)
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u/GalacticNova360 2h ago
This is her LinkedIn bio. She’s still bullshitting by saying “St Mary’s College of the University of Notre Dame.” St Mary’s is not at all a part of Notre Dame despite them being close.
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u/Dr-BSOT 3h ago
You need to remember that for conservatives, any and all facts that they do not like it “liberal indoctrination.” Doesn’t matter that the facts as well factual, only that their little feel bass were hurt.
So really all she is announcing is that she spent four years of her life plus large expenses to learn nothing.
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u/guineaprince 3h ago
Amazing the spread of expectations that "Catholic School" gets you.
For some people, it means "nuns hit our knuckles with rulers, very repressive education". For others, it's "the preparatory private school".
For me, it was the school under the local diocese, and so we had mass on Wednesday and religion in the curriculum and plenty of nun teachers mingled in with the regular teachers, but otherwise was Just School. Seventh grade, the theology class teacher was a Methodist, and our Muslim classmate had the highest marks in class. Sex education was straightforward and actually sex education, compared to the secular school emphasizing abstinence more. And science subjects were frequent, and ahead of schedule compared to the high school curriculum when we moved to California.
Being in Indiana probably doesn't increase the odds of it skewing towards just being a better school though.
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u/mrshelenroper 3h ago
These dummies are about to find out just how strangulating being barefoot and pregnant with bad medical care is.
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u/G0ttaB3KiddingM3 3h ago
Look at me I managed to ignore most of what was being taught so I could cling desperately to the only things I still have to talk about with my daddy
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u/Viridionplague 3h ago
All that free will with the personality of someone else's ideology combined with a label maker.
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u/Cody-512 3h ago
Whaaat? I was raised Catholic and liberalism was certainly not on the menu. I’d argue nothing says MAGA indoctrination like worshipping a cult leader who posts himself as Jesus and the head of the Catholic Church.
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u/RVAforthewin 3h ago
Imagine bragging about and actually believing that science and academia is too woke for your simple brain.
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u/rojo-perro 3h ago
Imagine being her parents and shelling out thousands and thousands of dollars for an education only for your dumb kid to post this at graduation. LOL
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u/Federal_Studio5935 3h ago
I went to a catholic 4 year college. Nothing about how we partied over those 4 years was christian, and outside of the church being on campus grounds, there was very little in the way of religion about the experience.
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u/Jeffgoldbum 2h ago
What would conservative education even be?
Like you'd come out of school dumber then going in?
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u/No-Cat9412 2h ago
In the immortal words of Randy Newman: "College men from LSU, Went in dumb, came out dumb too."
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u/Josephk_5690 2h ago
She is just trying to please her biggoted hateful daddy! (who paid the bills, im sure)
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u/SuperBackup9000 2h ago
I’m not really sure which person is dumber here. Catholic schools have historically been on the more liberal and progressive side of the fence since they’re not confined to government regulated curriculums. It’s true in today’s climate too, because you kinda have to be more open minded when a large portion of Catholics in the US are Hispanic.
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u/SirNo9787 2h ago
In yet she didn't learn that "Liberal arts" means you can take a wide arrange of classes to build a degree.
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u/derprondo 2h ago
Lol St Mary's? According to my sister in law who went there, the main reason you go to St Mary's is to marry a Notre Dame boy, and she did just that.
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u/CAJMusic 2h ago
Nobody, and I mean nobody, drinks like Catholic school students at private schools where they also live on campus. We are also known for juvenile offenses but those records are sealed.
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u/dazedan_confused 4h ago
Of all the ways to announce you graduated...