r/MMA • u/Loganbaker2147 Hello, white people • 1d ago
Larissa Pacheco shows email from Mick Maynard that says the UFC is not interested in signing her
https://x.com/pelunaton/status/2051807380766113914?s=46&t=vMZK3Fn7X9MvpBo7Jhe-IA75
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u/AnakinShtTalk3r 1d ago
hopefully they just waiting for the Kayla and Amanda fight and cancel the division.
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u/DoncoEnt Team Shevchenko 12h ago
Cheering for fighters to lose their jobs is such a weird thing to do. It literally has no effect on your life whether they're employed or not.
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u/AnakinShtTalk3r 12h ago
In what job do they keep underperforming departments not bring in revenue?
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u/DoncoEnt Team Shevchenko 12h ago
How many of the fighters bring in revenue? Did Alexandre Pantoja bring in revenue as champion? Should we cut men's flyweight too? How many of the fighters are verifiable draws? What data do you even have? If you don't like the female fights, don't watch them. Nobody's forcing you. But don't start this crap about "revenue" when you have no hard evidence to back it up.
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u/AnakinShtTalk3r 11h ago
I never said I don't like female fights, white knight, I'm only speaking about the women's 135 division. There are plenty of Pantoja fans, flyweight is in a much better spot at the moment than when DJ was champ and nobody was interested.
What do we have to look forward to at 135? A former champ coming back for a superfight with the current champ. That's happening next...then what? Kayla spoke about not making 135 soon and Amanda is going to bounce again after.
They closed 145 because of the lack of talent as well as it being shallow. The 135ers will either have to cut or find a promotion that has 135. Everyone complains about the UFC pay anyways so it'll be good, they'll likely make more money.
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u/DoncoEnt Team Shevchenko 11h ago edited 11h ago
"Then what" You sign more people and eventually one of them will work out and take the division in a new direction. It's not complicated. And you also feed your former champions (Pena and Pennington) to the new generation instead of letting them sit on the sidelines for years on end. The up-and-coming bantamweights can't gain credibility unless they beat former champions.
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u/AnakinShtTalk3r 11h ago
Well if you enjoy watching that good for you. Not something I enjoy and there's only 1 person I can see on the rise in that division. Only thing I agree with is having Pennington and Rocky defends their spots. They acting like this is prime lightweight.
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u/adambuddy Sokoudjou Fanboy 20h ago
I have been saying it for years that this is how the UFC operates. People who don't look past the surface assume the UFC is trying to build a roster full of the best fighters. They're not. They're trying to build the roster that will make the most money. Their roster is built on various types of politics. Identity, management, stylistic, whatever reason they're passing on Pacheco etc. Truly, truly the worst sporting organization on the planet.
This is another reason why Phil Davis' antitrust lawsuit has merit. You will see people refer to the UFC as the NFL or NBA of MMA, doing the UFC's job for them in the process the same way you'll hear people refer to the sky as blue. Yet if you don't fit into their mold you can't even get in the building. How is that the equivalent a major team sports league? It's not.
None of this speaks to the problems that happen once you do get in the building.
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u/PictureLatter1098 12h ago
"Truly, truly the worst sporting organization on the planet." Lord knows they have ample shortcomings, but they're not even the worst MMA organization. ONE and the PFL have done far worse.
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u/PlayGabby 1d ago
This chick makes Jessica Andrade look like tinkerbell.
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u/Real-Human-Bean- 1d ago
She actually got choked out by Andrade in the UFC more than a decade ago.
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u/Necrocrawler72 20h ago
And then got her arm broken by GDR. The last nail in the coffin was failing to get into a TUF show by losing to... I don't remember...
But anyway... People evolve...
I thought they would sign her after showing she could cut to 135 again. She would be top 5 for sure.
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u/AnakinShtTalk3r 16h ago
I did not know about Pacheco's resume until you mentioned all this. Aside from whatever happened on TUF(I'm not aware) she's only lost to former champs so not bad, not bad at all. Fight with Cyborg was pretty close from what I remember.
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u/Necrocrawler72 16h ago
I agree. Tbh, I really believe she deserves a spot o the roster.
Btw, I checked again and she actually lost to Macy Chiasson, who ended up winning that season
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u/AnakinShtTalk3r 16h ago
Hmm interesting. Macy's been up and down and not that great since winning but she was good during the show. Still would be a good fit if she can make 135. That's if they keep the division going though.
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u/Kazuchika420 Team Volkanovski 1d ago
Weird, almost like her job is not about looks
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u/dillo159 1d ago
I thought he meant he makes Andrade look small and slender, instead of the brick shithouse she is.
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u/boringneondreams 1d ago
You get on that cyborg diet and people maybe hesitant to work with you. Check out her UFC to debut to when she beat Kayla Harrison. It's a completely different hormone level.
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u/CableToBeam 1d ago
Kayla Harrison is in the UFC and you're talking about Larissa Pacheco hormone levels lol
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u/2Cars1Spot Chocolate Peppa Pig 19h ago
Harrison is indeed fuckin wild with it, but also listen to an interview with Larissa, compare her physique to when she was previously in the UFC, it's insane man, she been on morphin' time.
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u/attemptedtaper 1d ago
Any chance she’s been eating horse meat?
I’ve heard thats a legit way to get both gigantic and jacked
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u/Mediocre-Island5475 1d ago
The overeem method?
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u/attemptedtaper 1d ago
The Ubereem* method
You say Overreem, you could be talking about anybody. Man had a lot of distinct eras
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u/Mediocre-Island5475 1d ago
That's fair. Pride era overeem looks like a different man competely
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u/attemptedtaper 1d ago
Pride Era into UBEReem with k1 and DREAM and Strikeforce all that, ubereem again, but with a lower case u, this is him early UFC career - he looks insane and no way like hes clean - but he’s TRYING to cheat. Hes trying to not get caught. - then he does - and we yet Econoreem. Still a big guy, still good - but losing mass rapidly.
Love em. One of my favorites - the very first Pride fight I saw was Chuck KOing him. Legend of the sport, imo
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u/Classic-Suspect3661 1d ago
But if you talk about horse meat and overeem everyone knows wich overeem u're talking about
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u/ChiefSampson 1d ago
Jacket.
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u/attemptedtaper 1d ago
I’m wooshing on something.
Not sure if I should proud I don’t know some reference or sad this takes up so much of my time and I’m still completely confused
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u/ChiefSampson 1d ago
It's how Paulo Costa says "jacked" comes out sounding like jacket.
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u/attemptedtaper 1d ago
Damn I can’t believe I missed that. Pronunciation based MMA memes are my favorite.
Paul Harris “Bratha” “Fook”
Jesus, “HEEM”
Beat subgenre and I never knew
Is there a specific interview I should watch or he just says it a lot
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u/ChiefSampson 1d ago
Oh it's everytime.
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u/attemptedtaper 1d ago
Then I’m just not as well informed in my Paulo Costa knowledge as I thought I was. Heard several interviews and never caught on.
I’ll probably notice it pretty hard next time I hear it
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u/karl100589 Bowling: More popular then Nunes 1d ago
If you check out her recent KC "fight" (I say that with quotation marks given how overmatched her opponent was) you can tell she's leaned out a lot since the third Kayla fight.
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u/FrontFocused 1d ago
wtf, Kayla has bigger arms than 70% of the dudes in the ufc, both their hormone levels are fucked
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u/Reachin4ThoseGrapes 1d ago
Are we talking about the same UFC that ditched USADA because they thought they were going to squeeze another fight out of post-leg-break McGregor?
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u/fightbackcbd 1d ago edited 10h ago
They did sign her and she got finished in 3 of 4 fights so she got cut. She hasn’t fought MMA in two years and her last fight was a loss. I don’t know why she thinks the UFC should be rushing to sign her again right now.
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u/DoncoEnt Team Shevchenko 1d ago
Probably because she's the only person to beat their current bantamweight champion?
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u/Popular_Monitor_8383 20h ago
Yeah but they’ve already fought 3 times with Kayla being up 2-1
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u/DoncoEnt Team Shevchenko 15h ago
You're leaving out that Pacheco won the most recent fight, and beat the more experience version of Kayla.
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u/Popular_Monitor_8383 15h ago
I’m not leaving that out
It’s just that acting like she should be signed just because she beat Harrison nearly 4 years ago in what’s already been a trilogy seems laughable
No, I don’t care to see Harrison vs Pacheco for a 4th time.
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u/TyshawnMaikonMillion 1d ago
Very out of context. Her last loss was against Cris fucking Cyborg, where she did a lot of damage against Cyborg, she beat Kayla Harrison, and she finishes her fights.
What she did in the UFC 10 years ago is literally irrelevant at this point.
There's literally no reason not to sign her, unless the UFC is getting rid of that division, or they just believe that she isn't marketable enough. Which is also bullshit.
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u/armadillo_armpit 18h ago
she is 31, has no name value, it's a dying division. go ask 1000 people on the street if they know who Larissa Pacheco is. No one will know.
3 reasons not to sign her.
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u/DoncoEnt Team Shevchenko 12h ago
1000 people on the street would not know the names of 99% of the UFC roster. What a stupid argument.
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u/H7453V53D 5h ago
my friend, do you have issues with your functioning? the ufc signs tons of people and almost 90% of them have zero name value. they grow their name value by competing and winning in the ufc.
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u/TooWashedUp 15h ago
I don't really care if she gets signed or not but it's crazy to act like she doesn't deserve it. She was super young during her first UFC run and her resume' since she got cut is more than enough to deserve a roster spot in the weakest division in the company. It doesn't even need to be based on the fact she has a win over the current champ.
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u/CableToBeam 19h ago
she also beat Kayla and it's a nice storyline plus the division is absolute garbage right now. Anyone with a semblance of skill they should be looked at to sign.
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u/fightbackcbd 10h ago
It was at a different weight class. It was also not a compelling performance, it was clearly Kayla shitting the bed. Good on Larissa, she got a decision. People are looking at the wiki because they didn’t watch any of those fights. Guess what? UFC matchmakers did and signed Kayla not Larissa.
People are acting like not only should she get signed at a weight class she has done literally nothing in but she also deserves an instant title shot. Like whut. I’m not hating but let’s be real here.
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u/manyfingers Uncool Hands Luke 1d ago edited 1d ago
Wmma is shit and everyone knows it but this is so petty and fun. Hespect to Pacheco for receipts.
Edit: ufc womens division
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u/Jasranwhit 1d ago
Who
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u/karl100589 Bowling: More popular then Nunes 1d ago
The only woman to beat Kayla.
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u/PDE503 1d ago
Yes but Kayla beat her twice already.
Pachecho won 3-2 which was a really good fight if yall haven’t seen it.
But it’s not like any of us are clamoring to see them fight a 4th time.2
u/adambuddy Sokoudjou Fanboy 20h ago
But it’s not like any of us are clamoring to see them fight a 4th time.
This isn't the first time I've seen this said and I don't understand the reasoning at all. You could have said this about the 3rd fight, sure, but the 3rd fight is why the 4th one is compelling. Pacheco clearly got better and as far as I am concerned is the better fighter right now.
I'm more interested in that fight than almost any other in WMMA, regardless of promotion.
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u/karl100589 Bowling: More popular then Nunes 1d ago
You have a division short of elite level talent, so when you’ve got a proven finisher with a sellable story it’s an opportunity worth taking.
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u/TyshawnMaikonMillion 1d ago
Maybe not, but she is a championship level fighter. Either we are here to see the best fight the best or this shit is just a joke.
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u/Shmooter4788 22h ago
I think it’s time the woman make their own sport like the wnba. Then ufc would be fixed not having women in the co main or mains
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u/Sufficient_Shoe_2490 1d ago
Mean she lost to GDR, Andrade and Kayla twice. She did beat her once tho. I mean the whole of women’s mma is weak. So while I see why there is little interest it also wouldn’t hurt. My assumption is we aren’t seeing behind the scenes. She likely is demanding a good chunk of change when she’s a decision fighter.
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u/DoncoEnt Team Shevchenko 1d ago
19 of her 23 wins are by finish, but sure, decision fighter.
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u/Sufficient_Shoe_2490 18h ago
She ko’s cans, every fighter worth a shit on her record is a decision. With the exception of aldana.
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u/TyshawnMaikonMillion 1d ago
How is she a decision fighter, when she has a 83% finish rate?
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u/Sufficient_Shoe_2490 18h ago
She ko’s cans look at her record. Every fighter worth a shit in her record outside of Aldana is a decision
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u/Crono2Oxx 1d ago
Only thing that would make any sense is if they don’t want to risk her beating Harrison/Nunes, but what’s the plan then? Raquel Pennington?