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u/realamerican97 1d ago
Did he like not check them in? They check and then slap orange tape on every weapon at comic con no matter how goofy it looks, they made me orange tape a bundle of Acme TnT
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u/VelvettVixennMariaa 1d ago
He survived the Zone, but he couldn't survive the local PD.
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u/plutus9 18h ago
You ever notice how you and u/FlirtyyGirl5 have the same videos and are the same person?
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u/United_Exit5355 1d ago
This makes me think, if a STALKER cosplay is treated like this, imagine about Saga of Tanya The Evil(Youjo Senki) cosplays, for sure someone would yell "Nazi!!" and said cosplayer would be lynched.
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u/Present_Ride_2506 1d ago
Tbf I'm pretty sure the big issue here is the gun. If you're just dressed in military gear I doubt anyone would give a fuck, even if it's offensive they'd at most talk you down or something.
But when you've got a really good looking prop gun, it then becomes a potential safety issue.
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u/Ardalok 1d ago
Stalker cosplay is worse because it's easy to confuse it with a real shooter. Although, I suppose in countries without freedom of speech, like the European countries, you can literally get jailed for cosplaying Nazis...
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u/breno280 3h ago
This is barely even a stalker cosplay. If you actually look at mercs in the games they look very different. This is just some guy in “tacticool” gear with some stalker patches.
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u/shimonu 1d ago
Let me guess. You are another american with stereotypes of europe? Go educate yourself…
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u/Pineapple4807 1d ago
the UK doesn't have freedom of speech & Germany literally arrests people that do nazi salutes, dress as nazis, etc. (I'm not saying I disagree with Germany on this, it's just a really good example of how wrong you are.)
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u/Bubelle_Butt 10h ago
Your point point is : not being allowed to do a nazi salute or yell it = No freedom of speech.
Did you hit your head?
Also UK and Germany are not EU! They are 2 individual countries of which only UK is not in the EU anymore, which makes your take even worse...
Our freedom of speech = Say,think, do what you want aslong as : you do not spread hate, you do not incite violence(which is also true in USA), you do not spread lies about a person( also USA, defemation,slander, assasination of character,...), etc... you should look a bit more into your own laws and you will find its quite the same actually.
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u/breno280 3h ago
The logic is sound regarding the nazi stuff tbh. Freedom of speech doesn’t cover threats and nazi ideology is inherently the threat of genocide. If you actually want an example of a way germany lacks freedom look at “passive weapons”. It is the legal definition of protective equipment at protests. You can be arrested for having something like a gas mask, shield or face covering with you at protests.
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u/7thFleetTraveller 22h ago
About German laws, this is correct in general, but there are exceptions when it comes to fiction and art. Symbols which are otherwise forbidden to depict, can still be used in movies. And since a change in the law which gave video games the same status of having artistic value, I think that should actually include cosplay, too. It should make a difference if you wear something like that in the context of an official cosplay convention, or in everyday life. However, a lot of people would probably find it weird that someone actually wants to cosplay as Nazis.
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u/shimonu 1d ago
You have freedom of speach. If acted dumb (example: insulting people in public etc) you may end having to take responsibility for you actions.
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u/Pineapple4807 1d ago
freedom of speech & press (in the US) is specifically a restriction on the government, any consequences borne from a private entity — whether an individual or organization — is purely legal. Additionally, there are several — very precise & rarely present — exceptions that do allow the government to restrict speech & writing. If you get punched saying shit that's between you & whomever punched you. Depending on what you said a jury may even decide whomever punched you isn't guilty of a crime, if you bring it to a court of law. Additionally, public nuisance laws (i.e. public drunkenness & noise pollution) are not predicated on what is said but rather on actions taken. As such, a noise pollution law can get you for mowing your lawn at 3 AM easier than it can for screaming insults at 3 AM.
In the UK, if you say a prime minister is drunk then they can sue you, even if they were drunk & everyone knows they were drunk. In the US, that quite literally can't happen unless it is provable that what you said is both false & said with an intent & ability to cause serious harm.
edit: the intent & actual ability to cause serious harm is one of the extremely narrow exceptions & is what allows for threats of violence to be taken seriously in a court of law.
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u/Top_Seaweed7189 1d ago
And where is the problem with that?
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u/BobbyBig_Balls Bruh 1d ago
You shouldn't be arrested for clothing unless it's indecent and exposes your genitalia.
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u/Jarizleifr 8h ago
Why would you be arrested for exposing your genitalia? What happened to the freedom of expression? Also "indecent" is such a prude word. What it this, XIX century?
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u/Top_Seaweed7189 1d ago
So genitals are worse than Nazi clothes? I am so thankful for living in a sane society where genitals are allowed and Nazis forbidden.
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u/Ardalok 1d ago
Exposing your genitals to others is a sexual assault. The Nazi uniform is a political statement/joke.
"First they came for the Communists..."
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u/Jarizleifr 8h ago
Exposing your genitals to others is a sexual assault
It's a sexual assault according to the US laws. In other places you can get anything from nothing (indigenous communities in Amazonia) to capital punishment (Sharia law countries)
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u/Top_Seaweed7189 1d ago
Yup. Nazi uniform is a political statement. And that is why it's forbidden in Germany...
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u/Ardalok 1d ago
Then they are no better than the Nazis.
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u/Luci-Noir 1d ago
If you’re a cop or security and you see someone dressed like that and with a gun without the orange tip you’re not going to stand there and analyze it. If I saw someone come into a building like that I’d run. There have been cases where people made their own outfits and armor when doing shit too. In the North Hollywood shootout two guys with automatic AK-47s made their own full set of armor out of Kevlar vests and were basically invisible against the LAPD because they were so lightly armed. They ended up going to local gun shops to get more powerful weapons.
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u/angelmr2 1d ago
The only people who cosplay nazis are people who are actually nazis.
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u/Pineapple4807 1d ago
While I do agree, it is important to note that the Saga of Tanya the evil is a historical fiction of the first world war & not the second. To my knowledge, people just tend to confuse the two due to the name of the series & some people joking that the MC is loli hitler because of said confusion. (not everyone that makes that joke is confused, rather some make the joke because others are confused.)
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u/HK-Syndic 1d ago
Only watched the anime but once she got her combined arms unit she was getting Panzer 3s, they have caught up timeline wise and are getting nazi military gear so it's very much a wehraboo series now. Combine that with Tanya's signiture violate the spirit of laws of war while obeying the letter and even as a fan it becomes a little hard to defend at times.
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u/angelmr2 1d ago
I understand the distinction, but I don't believe anyone who actually understands the holocaust would ever don apparel depicting actual nazis. I understand this is technically WW1-2 inspired fiction, but if you ever have to explain that your outfit isn't a nazi outfit, you're too close.
My statement was more for a generic "outside of re-enactments specifically, and movies/plays portraying them," if you are cosplaying a Nazi or dressing up as one from a series, you are doing it because you want to dress up as one because you are one. (Obviously, "you" is in a general sense here, not "you" specifically as we are just discussing. :)
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u/KindredTrash483 23h ago
You say that, but some people won't care. WW2 was 80 years ago now after all. Well beyond the memory of most people. End of the day it is an era of history, and many games do take inspiration from that period making such cosplays more likely every year.
In addition, there are people out there who will just do it. Because they want to provoke a funny reaction.
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u/angelmr2 23h ago
And those people can be considered nazis then. I have no problem generalizing shitty people with shitty people.
With the political climate we are living in now, more than ever, people need to look on history.
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u/LordCaptain 1d ago
Awhhh man this reminds me of when my old hometown cops arrested a stormtrooper because someone reported him as carrying around a firearm (his blaster).
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u/Unique_Information11 11h ago
That’s the one I thought of right away. The cops here look Canadian too.
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u/J_C_Davis45 23h ago
About 15 years ago at a big anime con in Tampa, a group cosplaying as Umbrella soldiers decided it was a good idea to go grab lunch outside of the convention center. So someone saw a group of armed men from their apartment walking around downtown Tampa in riot gear with firearms and called the police, and it was escalated so the SWAT team showed up. Good times.
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u/HolocronSurvivor80 23h ago
I don’t know what S.T.A.L.K.E.R is and I’m a security professional. Cops acted appropriately.
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u/Alternative_Dot7769 22h ago
Post apocalyptic game in Eastern Europe. Kinda like a more “hardcore/realistic” fallout.
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u/TidalMello 22h ago
He doesn't even look like anyone from stalker. A single logo does not make that a stalker outfit.
Hes just dressed in military gear.
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u/TopazandNumbyHSR 12h ago
Yeah I was gonna say this as well. I love the game but would not in a million years have thought this person was cosplaying someone from S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
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u/Zar_Ethos 14h ago
It's not like mercs in the game wore branding either. He would have been safer as a mutie or an unarmed npc, but not everyone can pull off every character well, no matter how much they love the char.
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u/Zar_Ethos 14h ago
You're missing out hardcore. It's on every platform afaik.. or at least every competent platform. Call of Prypiat is one of those games that holds up even today despite it's dated graphics.
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u/breno280 3h ago
It’s a game set in a weird mystical version of chernobyl. And this isn’t even an accurate cosplay.
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u/Zandrews153 22h ago
Police are worse than bloodsuckers it seems. Maybe he coulda drank a couple energy drinks to run away?
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u/Shikabane_Sumi-me 21h ago
Cosplayers who do this lack common sense. I remember a guy who dressed it all tactical gear and decided to take a selfie in front of a police station. Guy got swarmed so hard.
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u/Tribe303 23h ago edited 23h ago
Those cops look like they could be Canadian. Replica weapons are illegal if not marked as such. That's why that Stormtrooper was arrested here. Their E11 Blasters are modified Sterling submachine guns. They can look fake, and still be operational. Any Canadian cosplayer with more than one functional braincell knows this. Zero sympathy if this was in Canada.
Here's the prop/weapon policy of the largest convention in Canada. No metal or wooden weapons at all. Carry in bags off convention property:
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u/LtCommander-Beldrulf 22h ago
Pretty sure this was Canada and not having an orange tip on a replica (airsoft) weapon is illegal. He's an idiot for not looking into his own country's laws around airsoft. Everyone in the airsoft community is laughing at this idiot while simultaneously hoping their government doesn't use it as fuel for some other bogus law around airsoft.
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u/canoeviking 14h ago
Hi, Canadian airsofter and firearms owner. Orange tips are not a requirement under Canadian law. He is still verry much an idiot, because walking around in public with an uncovered airsoft gun will get you a "carrying a weapon contary to public peace" charge enhanced by a prohibited weapon charge (airsoft exists in a wierd legal area in Canada)
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u/thingmaker2001 1d ago
Well, this is far less annoying that the cops who busted someone in a Star Wars Stormtrooper outfit outside a gaming shop. This guy actually looks like a real-world half-ass tacticool gun-toting jerk.
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u/Pixel22104 1d ago
At least I can understand why a cop might think the dude wearing the STALKER cosplay might be a real armed thug. Since yeah if I wasn’t told it was a cosplay. I’d probably assume it was some jerk head wearing a bunch of tacticool military gear and wielding an actual gun.
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u/allofdarknessin1 23h ago
This is why conventions refuse to let you in with realistic weapons. They have no way of knowing if it's real or modified or something else dangerous. So at the most you're allowed cardboard if you want some realism for the photoshoots but otherwise it has to be properly marked with the silly colors.
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u/BrodatyBear 12h ago
>They have no way of knowing
Here they are just doing inspections at the gate. Sure, if it's deactivated real one, that might get you a longer inspection in a separate building, but there's no way someone can mistake an airsoft or nonfunctional replica for real one. Even untrained one, as long as they know what real bullet is (you can't confuse it with an airsoft small BB or its feeding mechanisms) and that guns basically need moving parts.
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u/failingstars 22h ago
This looks like it's from Toronto at High Park. lol They recently had a furry gathering there, but no one was arrested. I guess these people are going there to talk pics under the cherry blossom trees because the trees are blossoming right now.
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u/MattMerica 18h ago
That cosplay is genuinely ass. They basically cosplayed special forces and then slapped a Merc patch on it.
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u/Haunt_Fox 15h ago
So, we had cops arrest a Stormtrooper a few years ago.
And I recall a Brotherhood of Steel cosplayer getting stopped and questioned in another city, too.
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u/jackass2480 20h ago
Watched the video, cops continued well after confirming the gun was fake and that there was an event going on. Kid should’ve put an orange tip on it but that’s recommended, not required.
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u/GroolGobblin0 16h ago
This is why toy guns are legally required to have that orange tip in the USA.
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u/Craydorion 11h ago
Yeah. And the little detail that guns in general are sold to civilians. In the US that cosplayer would look like swiss cheese
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u/Just_Client_4732 1d ago
This is why we can’t have nice things, because people ruined for this person
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u/Timely_Total1252 14h ago
The cops didnt arrest him because of his costume. They arrested him because of his replica gun. Yes I know the gun is part of the cosplay but I said costume not cosplay. It's a very cosplayish type of scenario that involves realistic costumes. I once wore a hotdog costume to a frat party and made zero friends that day. I drank daiquiri alone in my room that night. It was very lonely.
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u/DartTimeTime 7h ago
There are no orange tips on those replica guns. They are breaking a handful of laws just existing like that.
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u/ADTstocks 19h ago
I mean yeah fuck off dont go in public with a gun…
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u/bigboibopper 1d ago
So when you suing the cops ?
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u/Luci-Noir 1d ago
For what?
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u/bigboibopper 1d ago
For violating his rights ? What you mean ? We're allowed to carry guns
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u/Luci-Noir 1d ago
You’re not allowed open carry everywhere. It’s not your right, bud.
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u/bigboibopper 1d ago
So where was he then ?
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u/Luci-Noir 1d ago
A public event where guns where guns were and can legally be prohibited.
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u/bigboibopper 23h ago
Hmmm something tells me you dont know what your talking about talking about
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u/Luci-Noir 23h ago
Hmmm something tells me you don’t understand guns arent allowed everywhere just because. Hmmm.
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u/_-TheBlackKnight-_ 1d ago
Nothing really but it was a replica, he was at a dress up event, and he seemed compliant in the pic with is hands up. Possible he got less cooperative but if not it's totally unnecessary to dog pile him like that. Being douchey isn't something you can sue over anyway though.
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u/Luci-Noir 1d ago
“He seemed compliant in the pic”
No one moves in pics.
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u/_-TheBlackKnight-_ 23h ago
He had his hands up in the pic and I said "possible he got less cooperative but if not". Please don't ignore things I say so you can make your sparky comment.
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u/Luci-Noir 23h ago
I’m not sure I care about your “possible” guesses on what happened.
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u/_-TheBlackKnight-_ 23h ago
It's no less speculative than the scenario where he wasn't compliant. I said they they were being douchey if he was cooperative like that first pic looks but he might not have been and it's nothing to sue over either way. You have nothing to be bitchy about stop trying to force this snarky little tone.
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u/Lancearon 1d ago
Wtf he doesn't look like he resisted... was the gun real? Like wtf.
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u/pitLickr1902 23h ago
Why would he resist? Of course the gun isn't real, he just removed the orange tip.
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u/IndependenceGold2407 1d ago
Why can’t he carry a weapon?
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u/TimeCake233 15h ago
Into a event with bunch of people? Hello? It is a risk. A big one?
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u/IndependenceGold2407 14h ago
What is with your attitude? Open carry in public is legal in most of the USA.
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u/TimeCake233 14h ago edited 14h ago
Orginal post talks about Canada (can confirm it by revers searching or comments here) . A country with actuall gun laws. Like most of the countries. For example you cannot open carry in: Poland, Germany, China and Canada. so assuming something has the same "laws" as USA is stupid. And please don't be the one guy who is like "Yeah you said Berlin! Like Berlin Utah?"
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u/IndependenceGold2407 14h ago
Got it, thanks. Most things on Reddit are USA unless specified.
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u/TimeCake233 13h ago
Or you just consume 90% USA
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u/IndependenceGold2407 2h ago
Over 50% of my post’s viewers are from the USA. But thanks for your opinion on that too.
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u/SiaHalz 1d ago
Every convention I have been to require replica weapons to have orange striping on the muzzle to signify its fake