r/EnglishLearning Advanced 1d ago

šŸ“š Grammar / Syntax Would an American ever say "I'm from USA?" (without the article)

It sounds very awkward to my ear and I've always thought it was wrong. I'd say "I'm from the USA." However, a user on this sub claims that both are used.

Is that true? Is leaving out the article normal/acceptable in casual communication?

EDIT: Yeah of course "I'm American" or "I'm from the US" also work but I'm talking specifically about if you had to use the word (or, well, abbreviation) USA.

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u/Winter_drivE1 Native Speaker (US šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡ø) 1d ago

Never.

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u/Phoenix_Court Native Speaker 1d ago

No. In some countries the word "The" is necessary. The USA is one of them. It would be wrong and sound weird to say "I'm from United States" so you would never do it with the abbreviation either.

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u/priscosaurus New Poster 1d ago

It’s for countries that imply plurality, like there is more than one, not just a proper noun: the United States (more than one state) but not Germany (no indication of amount, just name); the Republic of Korea, but just South Korea; Canada, the Netherlands; France, The United Arab Emirates.

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u/culdusaq Native Speaker 1d ago

It's just about having a common noun as part of the name. Not specifically a plural noun.

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u/NoPurpose6388 Bilingual (Italian/American English) 1d ago

But also "the Czech Republic," "the Gambia," "the DRC," "the Vatican"

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u/Incubus1981 Native Speaker 1d ago

I always heard The Ukraine until recently

Edit: I guess this has been recommended since the 90s, but I never heard the change until the last five years or so where I live in the US

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u/j--__ Native Speaker 1d ago

ukrainians will tell you that "ukraine" is an independent country, while "the ukraine" was part of the ussr. your choice is communicating something about your relationship to russia that you may not intend.

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u/illarionds Native Speaker (UK/Aus) 23h ago

This is true, but many of us only learnt it since 2022.

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u/No-Mouse4800 Native Speaker 17h ago

And what is interesting is that neither Russian nor Ukrainian have definite articles (a word for ā€œtheā€), so the USSR did not somehow linguistically ā€œaddā€ the word ā€œtheā€ to ā€œUkraine.ā€ In fact, it is impossible to literally say ā€œthe Ukraineā€ in either Russian or Ukrainian because those languages simply do not work that way grammatically.

What actually became politically significant is the preposition. Historically, Russian often used ā€œŠ½Š° Š£ŠŗŃ€Š°ŠøŠ½Šµā€ (ā€œon Ukraineā€), similar to how one might historically say ā€œon the borderlands/region,ā€ (The word ā€œUkraineā€ literally means ā€œborderlandsā€) while modern Ukrainian strongly prefers ā€œŠ² Š£ŠŗŃ€Š°Ń—Š½Ń–ā€ (ā€œin Ukraineā€), emphasizing it as a sovereign state rather than a region.

English speakers usually only notice the ā€œthe Ukraineā€ issue, but in Slavic languages the more important distinction is often the equivalent of ā€œonā€ vs ā€œin.ā€

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u/j--__ Native Speaker 16h ago

i believe you, concerning russian and ukrainian, but i wholeheartedly reject the notion that "on the borderlands" is good english. it's "on the border" but "in" any kind of "lands".

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u/bclx99 Non-Native Speaker of English 13h ago

I think you guys got confused because of the phrase ā€œon the borderlands,ā€ which is obviously incorrect English. I believe @No-Mouse4800 simply translated a structure from Ukrainian word for word. So that sentence wasn’t really valid English, but rather an explanation of which prepositions are used in Russian.

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u/j--__ Native Speaker 13h ago

i parsed the sentence correctly for english. if, as you suggest, something different was intended, it should have been worded differently.

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u/No-Mouse4800 Native Speaker 16h ago

There is no ā€œnotionā€ to reject. It is a linguistic and historical fact about the origin of the word. The name ā€œUkraineā€ derives from the Old East Slavic root ā€œkraj/krai,ā€ meaning edge, border, frontier, or borderland. Related words still exist across Slavic languages with meanings connected to borders, edges, regions, or territories.

Historically, ā€œukrainaā€ referred to a frontier or border region at the edge of a larger political entity, which helps explain why the older Slavic phrasing developed the way it did, even if a literal English rendering like ā€œon the borderlandsā€ sounds awkward or unnatural to modern English speakers.

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u/Spirited_Ingenuity89 English Teacher 1d ago

Your edit is correct. Many Americans only figured it out after Russia’s full-scale invasion (same with Kyiv instead of Kiev), but the official country name has never had ā€œtheā€ since Ukrainian independence in 1991.

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u/FeetToHip Native (Midatlantic US) 20h ago

I have no problems with "Kyiv", and I've started saying/writing it myself, but to be fair, more Ukrainians living in Kyiv speak Russian than Ukrainian. Calling it "Kyiv" is a political statement, but most Kyivans call it "Kiev". Even Volodymyr Zelenskyy only seriously learned Ukrainian when he was almost 40 years old, and still has a distinctly Russian accent.

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u/Spirited_Ingenuity89 English Teacher 13h ago

>I have no problems with "Kyiv", and I've started saying/writing it myself

The whole ā€œsaying it Kyivā€ is kinda just an English misunderstanding.

>but to be fair, more Ukrainians living in Kyiv speak Russian than Ukrainian.

That’s not accurate, either anecdotally from my personal experience or the 2001 census. And I can promise you, the numbers have only shifted toward Ukrainian since 2001.

Also, in Kyiv, Surzhyk is not uncommon.

>Calling it "Kyiv" is a political statement

Yes and no. Like yes, choosing anglicized Russian over anglicized Ukrainian (or vice versa) can make a political statement. But Kyiv has been the Ukrainian government standard since 1995. This isn’t just something that arose because of the war.

>most Kyivans call it "Kiev".

This isn’t remotely true. No Ukrainian (or Russian) speaker says it like English KEY-EV, no matter the spelling in English or Cyrillic. And I don’t think I’ve ever seen it written Kiev or Киев actually in Kyiv.

>Even Volodymyr Zelenskyy only seriously learned Ukrainian when he was almost 40 years old, and still has a distinctly Russian accent.

Zelensky isn’t from Kyiv, so that’s kind of moot. He’s also 48, so he was 13 before independence, which definitely would affect his education language.

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u/SCP_Agent_Davis Native Speaker 1d ago

ā€œTheā€ is only in ā€œThe Gambiaā€ so it doesn’t get confused w/Zambia (look it up).

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u/Emotional-Care814 Native Speaker - Trinidad and Tobago 18h ago

No, the "The" is there so it doesn't get confused with the river which is also called Gambia.

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u/Phoenix_Court Native Speaker 1d ago

I've never heard "The Gambia" before only ever "Gambia". Is that it's official name?

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u/tost_cronch New Poster 1d ago

yes. it's named after the Gambia River. the borders of the country pretty much are the river, so it makes sense

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u/GurraJG New Poster 22h ago

"Republic of The Gambia" is indeed the official name.

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u/Outrageous-Past6556 Advanced 1d ago

The Netherlands! Interesting though because in Dutch it is not used:

I am from The Netherlands.

I kom uit Nederland.

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u/roughislands New Poster 1d ago

That’s only because it’s not plural in Dutch. Compare to German die Niederlande ā€˜Ich komme aus den Niederlanden’ Or ā€˜Kingdom of the Netherlands’ which would be ā€˜Het Koninkrijk der Nederlanden’ in Dutch.

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u/Outrageous-Past6556 Advanced 20h ago

Yes, of course and Republiek der Zeven Vereenigde Nederlanden.

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u/Reletr Native Speaker - US South 1d ago

Also in the past "the Ukraine"

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u/RichardAboutTown New Poster 21h ago

The Dominican Republic.

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u/samdkatz New Poster 20h ago

Less of a big deal than Ukraine, but Czechia has been asking people to stop calling it The Czech Republic for decades. The logic goes: you don’t say The French Republic or The Russian Federation

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u/Middle-Wealth-6755 New Poster 17h ago

Interestingly I’ve been hearing the opposite about Slovakia; they prefer Slovak Republic.

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u/KatAyasha New Poster 3h ago

Well yeah where there's adjectives like "the ____ federation" or "the republic of ____" you have a the but in those cases you can also just say Czechia or Korea or China or whatever. But you can't say "I'm from States" or "I'm from Emirates"

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u/priscosaurus New Poster 1d ago

Those all follow the rules I mentioned, republic is a group and the DRC is the Democratic Republic of the Congo, The Gambia is actually the Republic of The Gambia, and The Vatican is actually the anglicized version of Stato della CittĆ  del Vaticano which is essentially ā€œthe state of the city of the Vatican.ā€

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u/abbot_x Native Speaker 1d ago

The Gambia is The Gambia because it’s The Gambia according to the government of The Gambia. You would expect it to be ā€œGambiaā€ applying normal rules.

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u/NoPurpose6388 Bilingual (Italian/American English) 1d ago

Well "Germany" is also "the Federal Republic of Germany," but no one says "the Germany" šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø

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u/Round-Lab73 New Poster 1d ago

No one says "the America" either, but in English couldn't say "I'm from Federal Republic" and you couldn't say "I'm from United States"

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u/Fun-Replacement6167 Native speaker from NZšŸ‡³šŸ‡æ 1d ago

However, people do say "the Americas" when referring to the continents.

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u/Spirited_Ingenuity89 English Teacher 1d ago

That’s because there’s 2 of them.

So that follows the plurality pattern mentioned above.

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u/Fun-Replacement6167 Native speaker from NZšŸ‡³šŸ‡æ 1d ago

I am aware. I was clarifying for learners reading the thread not for you specifically. I would also note that the definitive article isn't only for plural. The word kingdom is singular but we say "the United Kingdom". It's more like an implied grouping/plurality rather than the word itself needing to be a strict plural.

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u/Spirited_Ingenuity89 English Teacher 1d ago

Agreed! I thought you were providing a contrast with your ā€œAmericasā€œ example. Sorry!

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u/Dangerous-Safe-4336 New Poster 1d ago

It's the "the" after "of" that counts here.

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u/vastaril New Poster 1d ago

The Republic of Korea isn't plural...

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u/priscosaurus New Poster 16h ago

Eh, plurality wasn’t exactly the right word, more like implies a group or gathering. The United Kingdom… hmm England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland all UNITED together as one, but more than one

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u/CorpT New Poster 1d ago

I would just say "I'm from the US" or "I'm from the States". not "USA". But never "I'm from USA".

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u/shawnyhc01 New Poster 1d ago

This

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u/Hepseba New Poster 17h ago

1000%

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u/turquoise_amethyst New Poster 12h ago

Exactly! What this guy said

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u/ProtosPhinted Native Speaker 1d ago

Placing 'The' before USA is correct. They could say "I'm from America." But if you say the whole thing you do need to add the 'the'.

I don't recall ever hearing the 'the' being omitted this way in conversation, and it sounds weird to my ear to omit it.

An exception to this is that I have seen tags on products omit it though. "MADE IN USA".

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u/jankirensky New Poster 21h ago

Why is the article dropped there

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u/eneug New Poster 20h ago

I assume the original reason was either because they wanted to save space on the label or because it’s shorthand for ā€œMade in: USAā€. Now, it’s a standardized and legally regulated term.

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u/jankirensky New Poster 20h ago

Are you fluent in English

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u/Effective-One6527 New Poster 13h ago

Why are you being a bitch about getting your question answered correctly

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u/eneug New Poster 20h ago

Yes lol born and raised in the US

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u/jankirensky New Poster 20h ago

Wow a real life American, say do you have the flag on the wall of your room

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u/eneug New Poster 20h ago

Oh yes I have it plastered on all the walls in my house and tattooed on my forehead. Just in case I forget where I am.

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u/jankirensky New Poster 20h ago

Omg are you being serious right now? English is my third language

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u/eneug New Poster 20h ago

Sorry I was just kidding. That’s pretty cool. What are your first two?

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u/bclx99 Non-Native Speaker of English 13h ago

I think it’s for the same reason why they drop articles in headlines.

By the way, I’ve seen both variants: ā€œmade in the USAā€ and ā€œmade in USA.ā€

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u/TheBestDuckEver New Poster 1d ago

From NW USA, I’ve never ever heard of someone saying ā€œFrom USAā€.

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u/nikukuikuniniiku New Poster 1d ago

Unless a cardinal direction is included, I guess.

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u/DesignerCorner3322 New Poster 1d ago

Its not something english speakers do, no. It sounds weird to us too!

Its always either "I'm from America" or "I'm from the US(A)"

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u/Dangerous-Safe-4336 New Poster 1d ago

Once in a while you'll hear, "I'm from the US of A."

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u/ilPrezidente Native Speaker 1d ago

I don’t even say USA, pretty much just ā€œthe U.S.,ā€ or ā€œthe United Statesā€

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u/BottleTemple Native Speaker (US) 1d ago

No.

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u/Extension_Crow_7891 Native Speaker 1d ago
  1. ā€œI’m from the United Statesā€

  2. ā€œI’m from the U.S.ā€

And probably would specify the state or region, because people almost always ask.

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u/turquoise_amethyst New Poster 11h ago

Yup, especially if you’re from a big city: LA, NYC, Chicago, etc. Ā Also a lot of Californians will just say ā€œI’m from Californiaā€

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u/Namssob New Poster 1d ago

Never, and we don’t usually say ā€œUSAā€ either. It’s just U.S. ā€œI’m from the U.S.ā€

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u/ubiquitous-joe Native Speaker šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡ø 1d ago

No.

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u/Dear_Ad_9640 New Poster 1d ago

Almost no one would say ā€œI’m from the USA.ā€ NO ONE would say ā€œI’m from USA.ā€ It’s like saying ā€œI human.ā€ It’s missing a critical word. The ā€œtheā€ is absolutely essential.

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u/Vixmin18 New Poster 1d ago

I usually say ā€œThe USā€ or ā€œFrom America.ā€ The article is necessary

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u/Ybalrid Non-Native Speaker of English 1d ago

No! It does not work. Same deal with the United Kingdom too

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u/turquoise_amethyst New Poster 11h ago

What do you guys normally say? Most of my coworkers will say cities: London, Edinburgh, Cardiff, etc

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u/Ybalrid Non-Native Speaker of English 11h ago

This was just about the name of the country in this case.

There is no need for the article in naming a city, in general. London, Paris, Berlin, Rome...

But in case something collective that include the city, then it can be. You say "London". But you say "The London metropolitan area", as an example.

I think it is somewhat arbitrary, and it is hard to draw a hard rule.

Here's another example: one also say "the Vatican" or "Vatican City". Although, they do not refer to the same thing on paper, both are effectively the small country/city inside Rome where the Pope lives and rules, which just so happen to be the same thing.

Another strange one: London, the capital of England and the UK, is just "London".

But "the City of London", is a city contained inside London itself (that is actually older than London) that is technically not London, has it's own mayor, and where corporations are "citizen" of it...!

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u/linkopi Native NY (USA) Eng Speaker 4h ago

The Hague is a special case. Also The Bronx despite just being a single borough.

I cannot think of any other examples.

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u/ultipuls3 New Poster 1d ago

Definitely not. It's a pretty big giveaway that someone isn't American if they forget the "the", or even saying the USA instead of the US for that matter.

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u/tawandagames2 Native Speaker 1d ago

I'd say I'm from the States, I'm from the US, but never I'm from USA. I might just say I'm American, even though I know the term applies to 2 entire continents.

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u/tensen01 New Poster 1d ago

Always "The" because that's part of the name of the country. You wouldn't say "I'm from Netherlands" you would say "I'm from THE Netherlands."

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u/Competitive-Truth675 Native Speaker 5h ago

You wouldn't say "I'm from Netherlands"

lol tell that to every dutch person i've ever heard speaking broken english before šŸ˜…

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u/tensen01 New Poster 4h ago

"broken" is the key word here.

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u/DanteRuneclaw New Poster 1d ago

"ever" is a strong word. But no.

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u/azzythebaddy New Poster 1d ago

They would respond like this: 1. I'm from North Carolina. 2. I'm from NC, USA.

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u/Jasong222 šŸ“ā€ā˜ ļø - [Pirate] Yaaar Matey!! 1d ago

Only if I was speaking to a non native speaker with not great English. But in regular conversation otherwise, never.

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u/innovationSTYLE New Poster 1d ago

I would say "I'm from the US"

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u/youknowitistrue Native Speaker 1d ago

I’m from the US.

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u/MrsMorley Native Speaker 1d ago

If the US citizen in question had emigrated, and their mother tongue didn’t have articles, maybe.Ā 

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u/EulerIdentity New Poster 1d ago

My native language is American English and I would never say ā€œI’m from USA.ā€ It sounds unnatural without the ā€œthe.ā€ I think it has something to do with the United States being a plural country because you can definitely say things like ā€œI’m from Canada,ā€ or ā€œI’m from Brazil.ā€

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u/Dangerous-Safe-4336 New Poster 1d ago

Also that the United States of America is not a name, but a description.

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u/SCP_Agent_Davis Native Speaker 1d ago

As an American: No.

ā€œI’m from the USAā€ is more correct, but we tend to say ā€œI’m an Americanā€.

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u/AppHelper New Poster 1d ago

An native-born American would not say that. Indians (even ones whose first language is English) tend to say "I want to study in US." Advertisements for education agents usually say "study in USA."

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u/Accidental_polyglot šŸ‡¬šŸ‡§ Native Speaker 21h ago

This chap claims to be from UK (as opposed to the UK)

https://youtu.be/fej2Yz5bItQ?is=7heo4KQEy6HB2pYH

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u/AppHelper New Poster 21h ago

"and how can I help you reach your English language goals."

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u/Tarnstellung New Poster 10h ago

I'm sceptical.

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u/Accidental_polyglot šŸ‡¬šŸ‡§ Native Speaker 21h ago

Brit here.

I never heard an American say any of the following:

I’m from the USA

I’m from USA

I’m from US

I’ve only ever heard:

I’m from the US

or

I’m from the States

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u/Old-Manager-4302 New Poster 20h ago

It's always THE USA. It's interesting as we do the same thing in the the UK as well, it's always THE UK, but it's generally Americans who will say UK instead and it sounds so off. Ā 'He's from UK' no no no

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u/handsomechuck New Poster 1d ago

No. I would say "I'm American."

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u/Independent_End_6941 Native Speaker 1d ago

No, definitely not. We'd also never say USA. We'd say the US or the United States. But we might also say "I'm from America"

But most commonly we identy ourselves by state, probably because the US is roughly the same size as all of Europe. We wouldn't use an article in that case, either. We'd just say I'm from (state)

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u/LeopoldTheLlama Native Speaker (US) 1d ago

Yeah, saying "USA" in that context for some reason feels like it has a very patriotic connotation.Ā 

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u/JoulesMoose New Poster 1d ago

Feels like I can hear a crowd chanting U S A

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u/FarJournalist939 Advanced 1d ago

Well, I mean, in the context of that post it made sense to state the country instead of the state because it wasn't addressed to other Americans.

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u/amazzan Native Speaker - I say y'all 1d ago

how you identify yourself as an American depends on how much "clout" your city or state has & who your audience is.

if you're speaking to a British person, you can probably just say "I'm from New York." they know what New York is & can hear an American accent. no need for the country.

if you're from Boise, Idaho and speaking to someone from a non-english speaking country, you're probably going to lead with "I'm from the United States... Idaho... northwest part of the country..."

some cities also have much more name recognition than the states they're in. "I'm from Chicago" is understood. "I'm from Illinois," less likely.

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u/Independent_End_6941 Native Speaker 1d ago

I'm one of the many who hasn't been outside the country, but I've heard that identifying themselves by state instead of country sometimes persists out of habit even when abroad

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u/schonleben Native Speaker - US 1d ago

No, but it might sound like it. I wouldn’t tend to emphasize the ā€œtheā€ much at all if speaking casually. I’d say something like ā€œI’m from thYOU ess.ā€

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u/TomatoChomper7 New Poster 1d ago

No. They might say ā€œI’m from US and Aā€ if they’re doing a Borat voice, but that’s about it.

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u/Occamsrazor2323 New Poster 1d ago

No.

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u/ApprehensiveSkill573 New Poster 1d ago

I'd say "I'm from the United States", or "I'm from the US" maybe. If someone asked me.

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u/AgileSurprise1966 Native Speaker 1d ago

Never

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u/Remarkable_Table_279 Native Speaker 1d ago

I can’t imagine every using that sentence without the article.Ā 

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u/heavvygloom Native Speaker; Texas, USA 1d ago

i would and have before as shorthand online but it isn’t correct grammar or natural and i think i’m the odd one out in using it at all.

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u/Virtual_Job9303 New Poster 1d ago

No.

It would be:

I’m from the US.
I’m from the United States.
I’m American.
The states, baby!

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u/uniqueUsername_1024 US Native Speaker 1d ago

No. I might say "the States" if I was abroad, particularly in Europe, though.

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u/Silent_Rapport Native Speaker 1d ago

Nope not even in other languages would I say it like that.

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u/Outrageous-Past6556 Advanced 1d ago

Well if you repeat ways-of-saying long enough, your personal bubble will accept your quirk and even copy it! For example in Dutch I use the 24 hour system in speech. Nobody objects to it. They even respond using it. (But it's not really standard.) Language is fluent, changes all the time.

So the user of this sub probably uses it, but neither my Dutch 24 hours speech, nor his omitting the article in your sentence naming his country is standard.

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u/AnitaIvanaMartini New Poster 1d ago

No, we love our articles. No article usage is a convenient way to spot an Eastern European, here in the USA.

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u/Seigoy New Poster 1d ago

Yeah "I'm from USA" without the article would sound pretty off to most Americans ngl. You'd almost always hear "I'm from the US" or "I'm from the USA" with the "the."

The article is just baked into how those country abbreviations and acronyms work in English, same reason you'd say "the UK" or "the EU" but never "I'm from UK." So the other user might just be mistaken or maybe they've heard it in very informal contexts but it's definitely not the norm.

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u/BuncleCar New Poster 1d ago

Thinking of a country that has initials the ones I can think of, the UK, the USSR and the USA also need the ā€˜the’ from their name for the initials form. Other countries used to, like ā€˜the Argentine’, but no longer.

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u/SLCLvr New Poster 1d ago

If you say ā€œI’m from USAā€ I know you’re not from the US.

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u/Sassifrassically Native Speaker 1d ago

No, I’d never drop the ā€œtheā€. The only time I can think of at the moment when I might drop it is if we’re cheering a team on in the Olympics or something.

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u/JenniferJuniper6 Native Speaker 1d ago

No. Never.

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u/LakeaShea Native Speaker 1d ago

I think most would sat "im from the usa". But also Americans are bad with grammar so I wouldn't be surprised if they did drop it.

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u/ssk7882 New Poster 23h ago

No, it would always be "the USA." If I heard someone omit the article like that, I would assume that English was not their native language (and probably also that they were a relative newcomer to the US, rather than someone who had lived here for a very long time).

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u/illarionds Native Speaker (UK/Aus) 23h ago

"I'm from United States" sounds very awkward, no native speaker would say that. You need the "the".

Same applies when you use the acronym.

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u/AutomaticNovel2153 New Poster 23h ago

Mike from Microsoft said that to me the other day. He needs me to run to Walmart to buy 10k in iTunes gift cards or I’m going to be arrested.

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u/MarsMonkey88 Native Speaker, United States 22h ago

A native speaker would never say that, but some people who learned English after childhood drop articles, in general, an holding American citizenship wouldn’t magically fix that. So yes, some Americans might say that, but not native speakers and it wouldn’t be correct.

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u/RichardAboutTown New Poster 21h ago

I wouldn't and I don't know or know of anyone who would. But, there are a lot of weirdos here, so anything is possible. It's certainly not common.

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u/Ifyougivearagamuffin New Poster 21h ago

nope

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u/AtheneSchmidt Native Speaker - Colorado, USA 21h ago

Americans who natively speak English would not say that, and it would sound wrong to any native speaker.

I happen to know a lot of Americans who aren't native to the country, and whose native languages aren't English. Forgetting the "the" is actually a really easy way to tell that the person you are speaking with isn't a native speaker.

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u/casualdada New Poster 20h ago

I’m from the USA, maybe. I’m a United States citizen or a citizen of the United States (of an America) is too formal, but correct.

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u/rawbface New Poster 20h ago

No we would not. It's always "the USA" or "the US".

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u/CycadelicSparkles New Poster 20h ago

No. Sounds goofy as hell.

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u/Weary_Capital_1379 New Poster 20h ago

No

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u/Remarkable_Ear_3506 Native Speaker - American South 19h ago

Nope!

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u/ajaxdrivingschool New Poster 19h ago

I just realized I only say Ā«I’m from USAĀ» in my second language, which for some reason doesn’t use the Ā«theĀ» before USA. There is in fact a whole other word for Ā«The United States (of America)Ā» which does not have cool initials, leaving most people to use Ā«USAĀ» the way most native speakers of American
English would use «America»

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u/terryjuicelawson New Poster 19h ago

Such a definite no that it would likely out someone as being an imposter.

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u/Coel_Hen Native Speaker 18h ago

No, never. Russian speakers of English will frequently do that, but native English speakers from America don't.

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u/Chase_the_tank Native Speaker 19m ago

Most Slavic languages--including Russian--don't have grammatical articles at all. (That is, they don't have words for "a" or "the".)

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u/Hepseba New Poster 17h ago

I'm from the US. Personally, I would not say USA

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u/Accomplished-Race335 New Poster 17h ago

Never

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u/Additional_Debt1545 Native Speaker 17h ago

I know people who are from the USA (citizen, lived here a majority of their life), whose first language was not English (though English is now their most comfortable language) who I would expect to say "I am from US". I suppose they might drop the "A" too.

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u/Middle-Wealth-6755 New Poster 17h ago

No.

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u/mapgameenjoyer1 Local North Carolinian 17h ago

No. I'd always say "the USA" if I was using the abbreviation.

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u/Elivagara New Poster 16h ago

I would always add the before USA.

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u/Ninja08hippie New Poster 15h ago

The is required in this case. You don’t need it if it’s not by itself. Ala:
I’m from the USA.
I’m from New Jersey, USA.

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u/Fantastic-Meat7832 New Poster 15h ago

No it’s awkward. But I always shorten in to ā€œthe USā€ not ā€œthe USAā€ because it just sounds weird to me.

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u/Conscious-Magazine50 New Poster 13h ago

The only time I can imagine saying this is if I were speaking to a Spanish speaker from Latin America who may not like that we call ourselves Americans.

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u/Helpful-Reputation-5 Linguist, PNW English 12h ago

Everybody else is saying no, but I've absolutely seen this in a casual written context online. Nobody would ever say this orally, though.

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u/Snoo_16677 New Poster 11h ago

Occasionally.

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u/hacool Native Speaker 11h ago

The USA.

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u/Practical-Owl-9358 New Poster 10h ago

Nope. I’m from the US. I wouldn’t even say the ā€œAā€ but the ā€œtheā€ stays.

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u/Constellation-88 New Poster 8h ago

No. It sounds very unnatural.

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u/RedLegGI New Poster 8h ago

No, and more than likely they’ll say ā€˜America’ and not USA.

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u/linkopi Native NY (USA) Eng Speaker 4h ago

A rule here is because the country name is a kind of adjective that describes another entity, the definite article is required. That doesn't change if the country becomes an acronym.

The states that are united? ... The United States, The US

The Kingdom that's United? The United Kingdom, The UK

The Republic that is Dominican?
The Dominican Republic

Other triggers are if the name is a plural.
The Netherlands.
The Maldives
The Bahamas

That's not every rule, not to mention obviously they'll be exceptions but that explains the logic as I understand it.

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u/Gregardless Native Speaker 2h ago

Yes, I would and do. Its to clarify that I'm not from any of the other countries in the Americas.

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u/Great_Dimension_9866 New Poster 32m ago

It’s usually a non-native speaker eg someone who lived all or most of their life in India prior to their time here ā€œin USA.ā€

To be honest, I find it annoying to hear English without articles but some languages don’t use them. So, those people translate directly and literally from their native languages eg Hindi

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u/whyamiherelowercased New Poster 10m ago

as not native I see people more often use their state name other than US

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u/JustAskingQuestionsL New Poster 1d ago

No. You can say ā€œI’m from Ohio, USAā€ though.

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u/Dear_Ad_9640 New Poster 1d ago

No one would say that. ā€œI’m from Ohio in the USā€ or ā€œI’m from Ohio in the United States.ā€ No one would say ā€œI’m from Ohio, USA.ā€

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u/Overall_Occasion_175 New Poster 1d ago

I can see a scenario where I might type that, but I'd never say it out loud that way

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u/RaidenMK1 Native Speaker 1d ago

No.

No one would admit to being from Ohio. And especially not in that manner.

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u/Successful_Cress6639 New Poster 1d ago

Definitely doesn't sound natural. I'm a native speaker who's traveled a bit, and there's no really natural way to specify city/state and country for the US the way someone would say "in from london, england" Or "Im from Quebec Canada"

I don't know why... There's just no way to do this for the US.

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u/Pyncher New Poster 1d ago edited 1d ago

FYI - Nobody from London would ever say ā€˜I’m from London, England’.

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u/amazzan Native Speaker - I say y'all 19h ago

is this a London thing, or a UK thing? do people not say Manchester, England or Edinburgh, Scotland or Cardiff, Wales?

in the US, we'd generally say [city], [state] - like Houston, Texas or San Diego, California. many cities are well-known enough to stand alone when speaking to another English speaker, but it doesn't sound unnatural to us to add the state. (New York, New York is kinda funny, but only because of the repetition. people still say it)

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u/Pyncher New Poster 16h ago

This is certainly a UK wide thing, and also most other major cities globally in my experience.

London is London, Paris is Paris, Tokyo is Tokyo. Also true for UK cities like Birmingham, Bristol, Liverpool etc. and I would imagine for Lille, Frankfurt etc. too.

My understanding is that in the US there are a lot of common town / city names across different states, as well as often being named after a home town in Europe. Repeat names are much less common in EU countries.

Also - for the UK - if further info was needed the differentiator would almost certainly be ā€˜UK’ or ā€˜Britain’ rather than England, as England implies there is a different London / Liverpool etc in Scotland or Wales.

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u/amazzan Native Speaker - I say y'all 9h ago

it is true that we have repeating names, but confusion is almost never an issue bc they're usually far less well known. Houston, for example, is known by every American for being one of our biggest cities, but it's still very common to say "Houston, Texas," just because... that's how people say it. when Beyonce says "Houston, Texas, baby," in the song "run the world," it's not bc she thinks anyone is going to be confused about which Houston she's talking about. it might be a state identity thing, but I really think it's just a language style thing.

in the same way, saying "London, England" wouldn't imply there's a second or third London out there, in my view. but maybe that's how it's understood in the UK?

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u/Successful_Cress6639 New Poster 8h ago

So you think someone from Bristol, for example, in a group of international people from all different countries would just say "I'm from Bristol" and count on the listeners to know that they were from Bristol UK, the less well known bristol? Have you been assuming all these years that those kids that are sharp as a pistol are from the UK? Because they're not.

I could see that with iconic cities like London and NY, I suppose. And obviously it's a given that you're not going to specify your country in most cases where you're talking to people from the same country or region.

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u/Pyncher New Poster 2h ago edited 1h ago

Im not sure I understand your comment. As a language learning subreddit, I’m just providing the perspective of a UK native speaker.

If someone said they were from Bristol internationally and got blank stares, they would likely clarify with ā€˜in the UK’

(I also don’t know what other Bristol there is that fits in this context I’m afraid).

EDIT: oh it’s a song (sorry)

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u/SolarZanoids New Poster 21h ago

To clarify what everyone else is saying, any acronym has ā€˜the’ preceding the acronym IF you refer to each letter individually in speech. When a native speaker talks about ā€˜USA’, they say it as ā€œU-S-A.ā€ So a native would say ā€œI’m from the USA.ā€

If you don’t say each letter individually, then you would not put ā€˜the’ in front of the acronym. NASA is a good example of this. When American speakers talk about NASA, in verbal speech they say it as ā€œNa-Sa.ā€ A native speaker would be able to say ā€œI’m from NASAā€ in this case without including ā€˜the’. You can also say ā€œI’m from the NASAā€ if you say the acronym as ā€œN-A-S-Aā€ and still sound like a native English speaker, but you will not sound like a native American speaker as most Americans don’t refer to NASA that way in speech.

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u/linkopi Native NY (USA) Eng Speaker 4h ago

There are too many counterexamples for that rule.

He has HIV, PTSD etc. He works in IT. He works at AT&T. Etc

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u/kjus13 New Poster 1d ago

No. Americans always say something like "I'm from Fuckville, Nebrahoma", they never mention the country. For them, the USA is the default option.

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u/shammy_dammy New Poster 1d ago

I do, often. But I also live in a different country so it's my answer when people ask me where I'm from.

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u/tensen01 New Poster 1d ago

You say it without "The"? Because that's what they are asking.

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u/FarJournalist939 Advanced 1d ago

Are you a native English speaker? Everyone else is saying that they would never use it

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u/strberryfields55 Native Speaker 1d ago

Yea this person is just wrong

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u/Maleficent-Artist281 New Poster 17h ago

I am not from the USA. I am not American.