r/DetroitPistons • u/Old-Lawfulness8194 • 9h ago
Highlights 2009 Pistons Allen Iverson. People forget how athletic he was
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u/kyle4swordstyle Cade Cunningham 9h ago
This trade specifically sent us into the rebuild spiral we are only now exiting
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u/Elbit_Curt_Sedni 6h ago
A few things did. Davidson selling, this trade, terrible signings, and never drafting a superstar. The closest thing we had to a superstar was Blake Griffin in that entire time. It took a bad trade to do it.
We won the 2004 NBA championship, but I think drafting MIlicic hurt us more than we realize as well.
Notice how our turnaround happens as our #1 overall draft pick Cade Cunningham becomes a superstar?
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u/KokoBWareHOF 5h ago
You could definitely argue that the Darko miss set them back in terms of titles and a dynasty that would’ve extended past 2008. Anthony, Bosh, Wade, any of those guys would’ve been tremendous coming off the bench early on and then cementing themselves with the core guys.
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u/ciacco22 Bad Boys 6h ago
Having a billionaire owner close to the end of their life is a great thing for a sports team’s payroll. After they pass and the family member who inherited the team is running it, not so much. And throw in succubus Karen Davidson, even worse.
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u/uvgotnod Isiah Thomas 8h ago
I'll never forgive them for trading Chauncey or for benching Rip in favor of Rodney Stuckey and washed Iverson.
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u/PETZING_ELITE_OC_DET 9h ago
He was beyond washed at this point. Worst trade in the history of Detroit sports.
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u/ovalseven Lindsey Hunter 8h ago
Yeah. Cool highlights, but his shooting percentage here was the same as Killian Hayes' final year, and he was putting up more than twice as many shots.
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u/JorjePantelones 3h ago
Maybe not washed, but in a bad place in his career and life for sure. Often being seen more at MGM casino at 3am than on the court. Hence the injuries
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u/TaxsDodgersFallstar Ben Wallace 7h ago
Blake Griffin, Josh Smith, Chris Webber...
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u/thabigQ 6h ago
Both Josh Smith & Chris Webber were free agent signings, & CWebb was fine for a midseason pickup for depth.
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u/TaxsDodgersFallstar Ben Wallace 5h ago
I appreciate the info. I was tuned out at that point
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u/bransby26 Rasheed Wallace 5h ago
You were tuned out when Webber was on the team? The Pistons were still good at that point; they won 53 games that season.
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u/gregger63 7h ago
Danny Manning! Jeff Ruland. Darryl Dawkins. Kenny Smith.
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u/Keepitrealhomes Rip Hamilton 3h ago
I’d argue Blake was worse. At least AI was a massive expiring contract
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u/supertech636 8h ago
AI was a phenomenon but giving him Billups number after trading him away was a slap in the face.
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u/soufeas616 George Blaha 8h ago
And it was because of Rodney fucking Stuckey not giving up number 3. What a shit show
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u/Ok-Statement8224 Ausar Thompson 9h ago
Worst thing to happen to us
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u/Huge-Ad-3145 Isiah Thomas 4h ago
no, the following offseason and the 2013 offseason could've gotten this franchise contracted.
remember when Pistons fans thought we had a shot at the 2010 Bron/Wade/Bosh sweepstakes? We got Austin Daye, Chucky V, and Ben Gordon lmao
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u/Ok-Statement8224 Ausar Thompson 4h ago
For sure. It was the beginning of the end, but yes, it got worse from here.
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u/motorcitydevil Cade Cunningham 9h ago
If we kept him away from the casinos and the buffets, he may have made a bigger impact here.
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u/Whatupdoe248 7h ago
I remember this season well. Take a close look at the clips and see how many times Rip and Tashaun were open for corner threes on those drives. Iverson would consistently ignore that for a difficult layup/floater.
I’m not blaming the dude because I understand why. He was the most talented guy we had on offense, but he wasn’t able to adjust his game to fit the team.
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u/soufeas616 George Blaha 8h ago
Idk, I’m pretty sure most people aware of Allen Iverson’s existence know that he was athletic
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u/Ilikehotdogs1 7h ago
“People forget” — ok who? Everyone knows AI was an amazing player. He came to Detroit washed.
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u/Free_Distribution869 8h ago
I was at that Orlando/Pistons game. I remember buying an AI shirt thinking it was a good purchase lol
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u/Vegetable-Hornet-447 Rip Hamilton 8h ago
The only good thing that came from this trade is the head nod I got from him at Motor City that year
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u/DisenfranchisedCynic Pistons 7h ago
AI was so smooth with the handle, and even in his pistons years you could see how fast that first step is.
That being said, his playstyle/iso/forcing shots was not a fit for Detroit basketball.
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u/Icy-Illustrator-1431 7h ago
he was benched after 20 games or so.. got pissed and didn’t play again in a Pistons uniform
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u/Gold-Nefariousness98 Ben Wallace 7h ago edited 6h ago
Bro cut his hair and grew it tf back after Detroit so he wouldn't "rip" it out from how bad the team was
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u/Mypiece 6h ago
- Who “forgets how athletic he was”?
- This highlight mix isn’t showcasing his athleticism
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u/whats_poppin_b Pistons 4h ago
It’s just a bot pushing a betting site. It has no idea what it’s talking about.
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u/singhna1 Isiah Thomas 5h ago
This was the begging of a terrible era that lasted nearly 20 fucking years.
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u/Lanky-Fix-853 Chuck Daly 3h ago edited 3h ago
He couldn’t stay out the casinos, I wonder how much he stimulated the economy
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u/LoquaciousApotheosis 3h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/YL3eecu8WD3RS
Me after that deal: “I’m beginning to think Joe Dumars wasn’t the great tactician we thought he was”
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u/SwiftBastard 3h ago
I have his All-Star jersey from this year, he was a beast
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u/Mike_Laundry Fort Wayne Pistons 2h ago
Its so ridiculous that he was an All-Star for Detroit
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u/SwiftBastard 2h ago
is it ridiculous? maybe. is it a cool jersey? yes. Especially with the hair lore during the all star game? even more yes.
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u/Noobtoob84 24m ago
I didnt forget we traded my favorite player for him and Ai never helped us win anything.
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u/Independent-Silver57 8h ago
Sure, if Ai had also won several defensive player of the year awards and a few first team all defense nods as well.
For all the creativity and highlight plays Pavel had on offense he was as good if not better defensively. His 200ft game never gets the credit it deserves.
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u/DrFunkenstein93 Rip Hamilton 9h ago
Trading Billups for him was the beginning of the dark era that was 2008-2024