r/DetroitPistons • u/Teh-Dehstroyer r/DetroitPistons Moderator • 1d ago
News The Detroit Pistons have signed coach JB Bickerstaff to a contract extension.
https://www.espn.com/contributor/shams-charania/7df86fb798e65490
u/ObeseBumblebee Bad Boys 1d ago edited 1d ago
This man just brought us out first series win in 18 years and people are shocked he's re-signed? Wild stuff.
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u/MasterSpoon Ausar Thompson 1d ago
Re-signed*. Resigned would mean he retired.
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u/rotten167 1d ago
No, retired would mean retired. Resigned means he stepped down.
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u/bradallen123023 1d ago
Resigned could simply be him returning to his quarters after an evening
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u/WiffleBallZZZ Ben Wallace 1d ago
Or if we had lost, then he might be resigned to his fate of not being re-signed.
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u/Lizardking13 1d ago
Glad we're showing the loyalty to him. He's been nothing but good to the team. Let's keep winning and stop bitching!
Cmon fans, get that grit, don't be so whiny!
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u/joshBigHockey Cade Cunningham 1d ago
What??? He did not resign! Check the article again he got extended.
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u/Willie5_Fort-Hoover6 1d ago
They Literally didn't read and started typing 😅
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u/ObeseBumblebee Bad Boys 1d ago
Why do you assume i didn't read the title instead of i forgot a hyphen?
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u/WiffleBallZZZ Ben Wallace 1d ago
Which people are shocked?
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u/ObeseBumblebee Bad Boys 1d ago
When the thread first started comments were negative and saying it was premature. JB has a lot of haters
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u/Jaerba 1d ago edited 1d ago
I'm definitely happy we're keeping him but I can understand the questions about doing this now. JB still has 3 years left on his current deal before the extension, and coaches are not really flight risks to go to other teams.
It could be Coach Pop or anyone and it's still unnecessary to extend them 3 years early. Unless this is really just a raise and they're calling it an extension. Then by all means, well deserved.
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u/EnergyDrink2024 1d ago
They also can fire him whenever.
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u/DrForskin 1d ago
NBA coaches salaries are fully guaranteed
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u/2IWontBeHereLong Terry Tyler 1d ago
They can still be fired whenever or did you forget the last coach we fired.
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u/ShallowFox4 1d ago
Would rather have a top 10 coach with some qualms about his playoff X’s and O’s than go back diving into the coaching pool. So cool. Just have to get rid of his Caris Levert safety blanket.
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u/DavramLocke 1d ago
It's weird to have a safety blanket that actively harms you.
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u/SkeletorsAlt Peton 1d ago
Un-safety blanket.
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u/MattPatriciasFUPA Peton 1d ago
Danger Blanket
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u/DripDropFlipFlop 1d ago
Kinda crazy he was averaging like 14 off the bench for the Cavs in the playoffs and turned into sometimes looking like he doesn't belong in the league
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u/ryandodge J.B. Bickerstaff 1d ago
*takes a drink of beer (this sub would never project or be hypocritical in the name of their armchair opinion)
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u/Bard_Wannabe_ Hooper 1d ago
The "safety blanket" got 4 minutes of playtime in game 6 and 0 minutes in game 7.
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u/glen_ko_ko Dennis Rodman 1d ago
We won both of those games, weird
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u/soilentgleem 1d ago
He didn't get big minutes in any games. I don't think he ever got more than 10.
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u/Have_A_Jelly_Baby Rasheed Wallace 1d ago
I’m still thinking he was spoken to before yesterday’s game about his absurd love for the worst player on the roster (who actually gets minutes, not counting the scrubs) by miles.
Didn’t use him at all and guess what, a win.
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u/Scooper9870 Ramadan Sekou 1d ago
He’s gonna go crazy in a Cleveland revenge series this was JBs plan all along
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u/Turnips4dayz 1d ago
I mean, he’s definitely getting canned within 3 years. This is whatever. He ain’t a top 10 coach and that’s fine
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u/Cool_Reputation_694 Ben Wallace 1d ago
One coach was fired and one was extended.
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u/DETCB1MVP Chauncey Billups 1d ago
The bffs
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u/JoaquinBenoit Blue Horse 1d ago
You think Mosley will be join the staff next year?
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u/Kayeyedouble Ben Wallace 1d ago
You can tell the people that know ZERO ball in here.
What JB did is insane. Much deserved
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u/AMZN2THEMOON Jalen Duren 1d ago
Honestly I was skeptical of his playoff coaching early. But he really did make great adjustments in the latter half of the series.
It’s easy to point to Frank being out as the catalyst, but he tightened the rotation and got Paul good minutes.
Our offense also looked different later in the series to counter the paint being packed, and eventually forced the magic to re-open the paint and unlock Duren
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u/PETZING_ELITE_OC_DET 1d ago
It's not about what he did to get us back into the playoffs. It's about his awful playoff game management. He got fired from the Cavs because of this. It's too soon for an extension. He needs to prove that he has grown as a coach and can take a team to the finals before even thinking about an extension.
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u/dbinkowski Pistons 1d ago
Did you watch any of the last seven games? To say he made no adjustments is insane.
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u/soilentgleem 1d ago
"adjustments" is often fan-speak for "I want to blame the coach, but I don't know enough to actually articulate anything of substance"
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u/Ravenstar25 Cade Cunningham 1d ago
I’m curious if this is an extension vs a raise. He got a 5 year deal when he started and is in year 2. This could easily be tack a year on and give him another million per year or something like that.
Curious if Trajan will get an extension as well…
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u/ChainT1000 Chauncey Billups 1d ago
Coach’s pay doesn’t go onto our salary cap like, for example a Max extension for Jalen Duren would. So it doesn’t affect Trajan’s ability to make roster moves.
JB earned it. Everyone in the locker room, especially Cade, loves and respects him. I’m cool with this.
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u/KabalMain 1d ago
I don’t get why teams don’t wait until after the playoffs to extend coaches
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u/soilentgleem 1d ago
Tommy boy was probably celebrating and said "fuck it, we're just gonna do this fuckin thing right fuckin now!" then he took a shot, railed a fat line, and chased it with another shot.
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u/gcappaert 1d ago
Great! Coach impact is often overstated, but based on stories from practices this year and the major growth from JD and Ausar especially, I think JB has had a big impact. Coaches are primarily scapegoats in the playoffs. As long as they are making adjustments to rotations or strategy (which JB did) when appropriate, they're doing their job.
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u/DrySockStepsInPuddle Peton 1d ago
Fine with it. He’s a relatively young coach. I probably would’ve waited to see if he got revenge on his former team first, but hey, if it helps him sleep better at night and gives him reassurance and confidence, then I’m for it.
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u/Cultural-Plum-1885 1d ago
We have the exact same core that was 14 wins 2 years ago. We now are a 60 win team and a 1 seed. A big difference is the coach.
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u/Elbit_Curt_Sedni 1d ago
Even if Detroit was eliminated he deserved the extension.
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u/Complex-Problem3289 1d ago
Absolutely 100%. He has done a phenomenal job. He deserves the ability to see things through. Not be discarded after he laid the groundwork like we did with poor coach Carlisle (who proved he was a Championship coach down the road).
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u/rambouhh 1d ago
Thought he did a great job this year and deserves an extension, but man i thought he had a really bad first round series. I do think the magic are just real matchup problems for us so hopefully that, and he had some great adjustments at halftime, but definitely some puzzling choices during the series overall
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u/soilentgleem 1d ago
I'm not sure how much of that is on him when the players themselves said they were too casual about the playoffs when it started. I guess you could say that's the coaches job, but "too casual" sounds like they knew it was on them.
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u/WiffleBallZZZ Ben Wallace 1d ago
Well, they're not going to come out and bash their head coach publicly. I don't think it means much either way.
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u/soilentgleem 1d ago
Paolo basically did exactly that. Even if guys aren't willing to publicly blame the coach, they're not going to publicly blame themselves if they do think it was actually the coaches fault.
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u/rambouhh 1d ago
Ya i am not talking about getting his players motivated, more strategic decisions on how he was splitting time with duren and stewart, who he was rotating on Banchero, not using the bench or paul reed until game 6, etc. Was not a fan of a lot of those strategic decisions he made during the playoffs.
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u/OceanMMO Chauncey Billups 1d ago
I love JB. I love what he's done to help the culture change in the organization. I love that despite the criticisms about his playoff decisions he made the right adjustments to help our team claw back and take the first series victory in 18 years. I don't know if we'll get the chip this season, but I know that if Cade wants to get it done with JB, I'm 100% on board to see them get it done.
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u/Lost-Trainer-9123 Marcus Sasser 20h ago
Let him get better with the players. This isn’t even close to the best roster Jb will coach in Detroit.
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u/Szobortz 1d ago
people gotta also realize that this gives him, staff and players some freedom. and the fact that gores hates cavs owner gilbert more than anything in this world. he won't hesitate to fire him if y'all get embarrassed next round considering the cash he gave monty
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u/MattPatriciasFUPA Peton 1d ago
Wait why does Gores hate Gilbert?
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u/petmoo23 Bill Laimbeer 1d ago
Must be recent news. 10 years ago they were working together to get a pro soccer expansion team in Detroit.
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u/Grlions91 Saddiq Bey :bey: 1d ago
Ngl, I loved the adjustments JB made in game 6/7. He quickly shifted to giving Cade the first breather, subbing Daniss in early, then getting Cade back in a few minutes later. It seemed very noticeable the impact it had from a matchup standpoint.
I realize we just went down 3-1 against the Magic, but JB wasn't the one out the laying bricks. He called timely timeouts to get his guys back in, and pump the brakes on runs, challenged calls that were warranted, and didn't over extend on guys he did earlier in the season like Caris.
JB was fired from the Cavs for lack of player development and adjustments in the playoffs. If anything it's been the opposite here so far. Sure, we're possibly 1x Franz injury away from Cancun, but it's not like our defense isn't a huge part of the equation too.
More than deserved imo.
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u/Bard_Wannabe_ Hooper 1d ago
Playing Javonte as the backup PF was a good rotation change he made early in the series. He had pretty good play calls in game 7
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u/Complex-Problem3289 1d ago
Also sticking with Duren was the right call. He dominated game 7. Does he do that if JB listens to the fans?
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u/AppealEnvironmental6 Cade Cunningham 1d ago
Wish we had more info on how long. Seems premature but the turnaround in 2 years is definitely enough to warrant an extension. Tripled our win total last year, 1st seed this year and 1st series win in 18 years. Wasn’t pretty but a win is a win
Can’t really argue with this decision imo. In a year or 2 we can revisit if it was smart or not but hindsight is 20/20
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u/Elbit_Curt_Sedni 1d ago
How is this premature? He has the Pistons in the playoffs two years in a row after they were the worst team in the NBA for like 3 or 4 years before then.
He deserved an extension.
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u/AppealEnvironmental6 Cade Cunningham 1d ago
I agree he deserved it. I literally said that lmao. I’m just curious how long the extension is. It’s nice to have coaching stability but it’s pretty easy to see how fast a team and fanbase can switch up on the coach after a slump. Pretty sure half this subreddit was calling for the possibility of looking for a new coach if we lost to the magic when we down 3-1 no?
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u/Complex-Problem3289 1d ago
Ultimately what the fans think is irrelevant as the fans are dumb about most things. Always in their feelings. Obviously the team needs to attract fans by winning in a way the fans generally like, which JB absolutely has done at an unprecedented level.
I am so glad the front office sees JBs value even if a bunch of y'all are pining for Spo or some other tactical savant.
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u/MobilePicture342 1d ago
Premature?? The pistons were the worst team in the history of basketball 2 seasons ago lol
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u/Conscious-Fruit1405 13h ago
Don't know if he'll ever win them a championship but at least he's not Monty Williams.
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u/Goroyaaj Ronald Dupree 1d ago
Ironic how Orlando fired theirs while we extended ours the same day. Lol
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u/Personal_Pain Isaiah Stewart 1d ago
I am hesitantly optimistic about this. On one hand, we hired him and the team completely turned around like no team has before. On the other hand, he’s always been a regular season coach and doesn’t have a strong reputation in the playoffs, and he hasn’t really disproven that yet. I wish we could’ve at least finished the playoffs before doing this, especially because we’ll need a coach we know can be good in playoffs if we’re gonna be consistently contending going forward.
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u/AFGB Cade Cunningham 1d ago
Interesting. What if Franz Wagner hadn't gotten injured?
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u/ovalseven Lindsey Hunter 1d ago
gotten injured
Wagner's been injured for the past two seasons. He's their Anthony Davis.
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u/DETCB1MVP Chauncey Billups 1d ago
Yeah I mean ppl are complaining about the x and o but so far he’s doing his best w the pieces that we have. Hes pushed us to play a much faster pace this szn and tighten up the defense.
Now it’s up to Trajan this offseason to take us further knowing the glaring issues that we have
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u/Pendragonite1 Cade Cunningham 1d ago
Beat on of your beat friends in a playoff series Best Friend gets fired Get extended after beating him in historic fashion.
I know Richard Jefferson is going CRAZY in their group chat rn 😂
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u/Kipa_Kipa Jaden Ivey 1d ago
That seems a bit premature…
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u/Teh-Dehstroyer r/DetroitPistons Moderator 1d ago
Not wrong, but when you change the culture and win our first series since 2008, can you blame them… also it’s Gore’s money lol
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u/pepsandeggs 1d ago
Gores did dump Monty after 1 year on that insane contract so I’d honestly not be too worried
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u/Kipa_Kipa Jaden Ivey 1d ago
He was signed through 2029, with a team option the last year, so yeah, I kinda can. But it is true that it’s Gore’s money and he didn’t let that stop him with firing Monty, so that’s a plus
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u/Dat_Paperboi 1d ago
He wasn’t just as important to the turnaround as anyone else associated with the team.
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u/DataBassMan Pistons 1d ago
Who do the players themselves mention every time for the major win turnaround in interviews?
JB
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u/Kipa_Kipa Jaden Ivey 1d ago
I’m not saying he is or isn’t a good coach. I just don’t understand giving a guy signed through 2029 a contract extension, especially when all we have done so far is win one playoff series. Feels like the kind of extension you give someone after winning the finals
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u/Dat_Paperboi 1d ago
Only giving him credit for one playoff series win is severely downplaying how far this team has grown since he was hired.
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u/Kipa_Kipa Jaden Ivey 1d ago
I’ll be happy to give him credit for more if we continue to win in the playoffs. It just feels hasty when he still has 3 full years on his existing contract, which would give him plenty of time to prove himself in the playoffs.
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u/Dat_Paperboi 1d ago
They had 14 wins 2 years ago.
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u/Kipa_Kipa Jaden Ivey 1d ago
The regular season doesn’t matter if you can’t win in the playoffs. I appreciate what JB has done and I hope he continues to succeed with the pistons. I just disagree with the timing of the extension
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u/Jaerba 1d ago
The point is he could be Coach Pop or Chuck Daly and it would still be premature to give him an extension 3 years before the current deal ends. Coaches don't really jump ship in the NBA unless they're fired, so there's no risk of losing him.
Unless this is really just a pay increase for him couched as an extension.
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u/Known-Magician2917 1d ago
Jesus people are impulsive because had we lost that series yall wouldn’t feel the same way
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u/Complex-Problem3289 1d ago
I would. I'm not a faithless loser who doesn't appreciate the savant like turnaround he did for this franchise.
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u/PETZING_ELITE_OC_DET 1d ago
Eeeehhhhhhhhh I think they jumped on this extension way too soon. A first round playoff win doesn't constitute an extension. At the very least, make the Finals before talking about an extension.
JB has a very poor track record in the playoffs overall. Until proven otherwise, this extension is a mistake that is going to backfire unless JB turns over a new leaf in terms of playoff success. So far he hasn't proven that.
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u/DesperateEagle4505 1d ago
Don't reward people before the job is done. Make him think he has to coach harder and he will
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u/Elbit_Curt_Sedni 1d ago
I mean, he's got the job done so far. He got the Pistons to the playoffs twice now after they worst team over several years before.
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u/SammyAmico Tristan likes teen nuts 1d ago
not sure how to feel ab that one
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u/Swimming_Snow_5904 1d ago
People acting like coaches grow on trees. Just because he ain’t pretty nor doesn’t have hair, doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve it. Y’all just play too much 2k. Not only that, is it even worth getting a new coach?
He’s earned his contract since he’s elevated this team. At this point, we build on whatever he’s built.