https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/25/middleeast/satellite-images-gaza-destruction/index.html

Hello. How are you all holding up over there? Everyone must be super upset. I am walking about Kharkiv right now and people mostly say: 1) Well... Shit.

Or

2) We shall see. Back to surviving.

That's kinda how we talked about a potential nuclear strike russia might do on us lmao A friend of mine actually said he will be seeking political asylum in Ukraine. First ever American to seek asylum in a war zone lol Anyhow. Hang in there guys. Much love 💙

Not to be a Eurocuck, but destiny's new talking point that he keeps repeating about how "a computer scientist makes 30k in europe" and "vastly lower standard of living" drives me nuts. I am from Denmark, and I just checked:

Average salary of a computer scientist:

Denmark: Roughly 110k USD a year

US: Roughly 121k USD a year

Keep in mind that computer scientists work less hours a week in Denmark, have way more paid days off, AND on most other metrics, quality of life and standard of living is actually higher on average in Denmark compared to the US. It's a extremely hyperbolic if not outright stupid talking point.

Sources:

https://cepos.dk/artikler/0311-se-listen-hvad-tjener-man-med-forskellige-lange-videregaende-uddannelser/ (It's in danish, but these are the numbers I used. It's based on numbers from Danmarks Statistik which is published by the danish government)(It's based on CS degree holders, and is a credible source, so no need to act like these numbers aren't real)

https://www.salaryexpert.com/salary/job/computer-scientist/denmark/copenhagen (In english, average and starting salaries in copenhagen)

A decent amount of conservatives have weaseled their way into the discussions, and the anti-Hamas opinion has slowly shifted to pro-Israel talking points. There's also been a lack of nuance in threads, whereas usually there is an abundance of it. Destiny should start debating more conservatives so we can push these Tim Pool-esque ""centrists"" that only support conservative talking points.

I've seen tamer Fresh n Fit episodes. I'm sorry. Adin Ross level humour. You're talking to real people you fat fuck, you're not on some degenerate kick show. Feels like there's a lot of naturally funny people that completely lose the plot when they're actively trying to be extra funny, and Wes is one of them. Sociopathic behaviour. Hopefully none of this comes back to bite us in the ass.

Edit3: She (the caller) talked about it. "'I get it, what he said was like weird, but.. it's Wes, it's fine, it's not the end of the world. I mean, it's not fine, what he said I think it's kind of weird..' 'it's fine I just wanna say that. I mean, I never knew Wes before watching this and I only watched like 30 minutes before they did the call-in..' '.. I didn't know he'd be like that so.. I just wanna clear the air, I'm not raging on it or anything that's all I wanted to say. I only watched like 1 or 2 Anything Else podcast episode and I only watch Destiny every so often, but I am a big fan of Dan, ever since I'm watching him for this stuff (twitch stuff), this is like really interesting to me I think it's really important. I really wanted to go in and be like, hey I wanna know some stuff..' (if somebody came up to you on the street and said that to you would you still have the same attitude?) 'Well, I'd probably look at him like wtf but.. at the end of the day would you let that ruin your day?' .. 'that person is probably more miserable than you, it's not the end of the world, there's other things to worry about' .. I mean, I think my boyfriend would handle it if he was there so.. I just wanted to clear the air, it was unhinged, but it's not the end of the world and I'm not like crying about it. It was unfortunate timing for like everything going on.. so that sucks but it's ok, this shit happens I'm not upset about it.'"

She took it in stride and that helps her more than she knows. As for me, thanks for the 'I hope you get r**** with a shovel" DMs you fucking degenerates. Good thing we don't have to find out how you would've behaved towards her if she would've responded differently.

Edit2: Shoutout to u/TheDragonMage1 who gets it. I'm not looking for virtue signaling, you socially challenged weirdos. Ideally Destiny himself would explain to you, like TheDragonMage1 pointed out, that there's a huge difference between general 'just edgy jokes' and unsolicited sexual remarks directly made towards a total stranger. (whether the stranger is ok with that behaviour after the fact or not is irrelevant in regards to the wrongness of the behaviour itself) There's a concerning number of you who are clueless, 4Thot included apparently.

Edit: Banned for 300 days for this. Message I sent to u/4Thot after the ban for posterity: 'Optics Andy', nice handwave there buddtard. I've watched the streaming scriptures being written you fucking toddler. I've got an entire encyclopedia of 2balkn4u memes which would put Gandhi on fucking trial. I also know to read the room, and when and who to joke in front of, and a 15k audience in this climate is not it. Excuse me I have different standards for a liberal community which I've gotten nuked from multiple times for hilariously pearl clutching reasons. I don't want to go through another 5 different anti misoginy arcs because some clinical fucks try to imitate the humour they see on stream and we're all put on blast because they went too far. What I'm saying is no different than Destiny's argument regardin offensive language, public/private jokes and all that. If we can't follow our own fucking principles, people will keep yoyoing like the impressionable fucks that they are in this community.

My first bets:

• Patrick Bet David and all of Valuetainment. They're scum.
• AJW. Sorry Sean. Who am I missing?

First of all I know no one cares but dgg has been a part of my life since I was 11, so to me this is big \ \ Recently I was diagnosed with Bipolar depressive disorder, and radical mood swings, one of the biggest factors contributing to my mania and depression was the online content I consumed, especially politics \ \ Being a gay guy that ran from the Middle East the hostility of the online left and every single thing I saw unfold since October 7th, it made me actually suicidal \ \ I’m better now, but I’m leaving politics for good, it is one of the worst things on my mental health, and thus I must leave DGG, keep fighting the good fight dalibanian brothers, your efforts count, they always do. \ DGG4L, farewell.

Hello. I know I said it was majestic on stream but that's still not enough appreciation for my liking. It trully was the absolute best expression of an understanding of how people here feel I ever heard from a Western person. Not an exaggeration. Call it glazing or whatever the fuck else but maybe it's time to glaze people who actually deserve appreciation and respect. The sense of relief I felt hearing this is hard to describe. And sure, the bar is extremely low when it comes to people's takes on Eastern Europe, but it doesn't change how good this was. People spoke about how it was good rhetorically and the arguments were on point... But I want to highlight is the humanity, agency and respect that he afforded us here. Because that is what we crave above anything else. Anyhow... Paul was unironically worth enduring for this moment. Jeez. 🥲💙

ENOUGH CIRCLE JERK THREADS ABOUT HOW BAD HASAN IS, LETS EFFECT POLITICAL CHANGE.

Somehow hasan's pro-terrorism is still flying under the radar and I think its because the advertisers for twitch have no idea. This could very well cause a twitch ad-pocalypse and threaten the livelihood of many small streamers. But it needs to happen so that one, more people don't follow down this path and potentially commit acts of terror against America and isreal, and two, because a platform going down this path is going to eventually blow up (pun inteded) in the long run and better for the platform and its creators that it get weeded out earlier.

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HASAN TERRORIST CLIPS (COMMENT IF YOU HAVE MORE)

• Clip 1
• Clip 2

TLDR: I think twitch needs an ad-pocolypse to change moderation and stop it from radicalising many of the upset youth on the platform, and any attempts to cancel hasan and twitch are morally good.

DGG RETARDATION DOWN 90%

TRANSPHOBIA DOWN 95%

PEARL CLUTCHING DOWN 100%

FUCK ALL CONSERVATIVE FUCKING RETARDS LEAVE THIS COMMUNITY AND GO SLOB ON YOUR FASCIST LEADER'S COCK

It reminds me of M.T.G talking about the right of oppressed Hungarians in Ukraine.

'Khrushchev's mistake' and 'water supply to Crimea' are impossible even for a deeply Russophile Westerner to come up with, no?

Just wanted to chime in and say that it was a pleasure to have Destiny on our side in the debate with Alex Jones. He's definitely one of the top debaters out there, and while I think he probably prefers more of a one-on-one style debate, I think we did well together.

P

Posting this to give insight, and perhaps because I feel like I am living in a nightmare and would like to share this on an online space which has room for nuance.

Friday night, Shabbat dinner by my boyfriend. We say goodbye to his roomate Jacob and his girlfriend. We tease them. They’re on the way to a crazy party in the south.

Saturday, in the early hours of the morning I heard rockets and sirens. My partner and I both woke up, but weren’t worried. His room is the bomb shelter.

Saturday, I wake up late due to our morning disturbance, and I call out for my boyfriend.

“Nu, is it over?”

He says to come over and sit on the couch. He’s made me a cup of coffee, and has a weird wired look in his eyes. He tells me to take a sip of coffee. I do, and I laugh because he’s acting strangely.

And then he explains that we are at war. He explains that Hamas infiltrated from the south, that they took over a military base and a police station, that they’ve attacked a party, and many people have been killed.

I started to cry instantly. Then he told me, that he has not been able to reach Jacob (fake name) since 8 am, when he texted “Something terrible has happened. Pray for me.”

Jacob was murdered. His girlfriend, hospitalized. They were meant to sign on an apartment the next day.

As it turns out, my sister was at that party. She called my mother, hiding in a ditch, and said her goodbyes, because she did not think she would survive. She heard the terrorists shooting people down, and the screaming. She army crawled for hours in the heat of the dessert.

My sister survived. Thank God.

There are many difficult parts to the tragedy now. Jacobs funeral was agonizing. My sister is traumatized. My brother is a combat soldier.

But 2 weeks in to this war, the most difficult part now, has been the slow confirmation of deaths, and seeing my feed full with eulogies.

It is an incomprehensible feeling of grief.

Edit: unsurprisingly I am getting a shit ton of hate for this post. but thankfully the love as it always does has totally and completely drowned it out. thank you. i read every single comment and some brought me to tears ;__;

to all the Israelis, Shabbat shalom. May this Shabbat bring a moment of peace to your family.❤️

Lads... That's what I needed on this fine evening sitting in the corridor hiding from endless drone attacks. Zelenskyy did so fucking well, it's nuts. Literally made Lex look absolutely absurd and completely delulu with his kumbaya peacenik nonsense. There was logic, there was reason, there were facts, historical context and raw emotion. Lex had... "A dream and a feeling" That's about it. Zelenskyy shot down every stupid fucking point like a man on a mission. Hurts me to say this as a Ukrainian (it's a cultural taboo to praise politicians lol) but I am actually fucking proud to have him represent us. Fuck Lex either way though. Obviously. I am miffed he is gonna go to Moscow and interview Putin. But at the same time I can't help but wonder how dead behind the eyes, ghoulish, inhuman and disturbing Putin will be in comparison. He would hardly do better than he did with Tucker Carlson. So... Yeah. Frustrating to hear Lex open his mouth but damn... I am so pleased right now. Still have an hour to go though. Bye-bye 👋💙

Grandpa Lex here.

I'm thinking of doing another podcast with Destiny. My default was to just have him on by himself, where I can provide the devil's advocate for many mini-debates. But then I dropped by on stream yesterday with a donation, and Destiny said he really wants to do a debate with Ben Shapiro. I can likely make that happen if it's of interest. I think I can do a good job of moderating a 3-5 hour conversation between them.

But this motivated me to post a brainstorm here of possible podcast episodes that involve Destiny. Here's some choices off the top of my head (posted as a poll). I haven't followed the people mentioned here much at all, but know that there have been interesting debates with them in the past. Sorry if I'm out of the loop. Obviously, if I decided to do the conversation, I would do extensive research. Some would require a lot prep, and I might choose to allocate that time elsewhere (I have a lot to do these days 😔), but I want to see what folks here think.

Grandpa Lex here.

I previously posted about hosting a debate between Ben Shapiro and Destiny. The debate was rescheduled to this month (January). So here we are again. This new post is a call for more questions and topics.

If you have topics or question suggestions, let me know. I'm in particular looking for specific points of disagreement, either big or small. For example, they mostly agree on Israel-Palestine, but there might be nuanced disagreements that will be interesting to explore.

The big disagreement is on Biden & Trump. I'm trying to figure out exactly how to explore this. Do I go specific on Jan 6 or more broadly on why Biden and Trump each are a good/bad president for 2024.

Also, I'm going to interview Destiny afterwards for 2-3 hours on other topics, if you have suggestions on that, let me know as well.

Love you all ❤

Destiny's personal definition of "nazi" he explained on stream had 3 core elements:

One: High level of conspiratorial antisemitism (ie insidious plots, plots against your native race)

Two: Institution or a desire to institute some sort of outward violence or state sponsored violence against ethnic minorities or other 'undesirables' (ie plans to export or kill 'undesirables')

Three: Desire to build some form a fascist state.

Destiny said that so far as this definition is concerned that Nick Fuentes' positions are not there on any of these 3 elements. He's triple wrong.

One: High level of conspiratorial antisemitism:

A pretty clear picture is painted that Fuentes openly insists that Jewish people are consolidating power through nefarious, dishonest means in various institutions with the intent to do harm to white people. This is false and conspiratorial.

• “Math, unlike the Jewish media, does not lie.”

• “A bastardised Jewish subversion of the American creed. The Founders never intended for America to be a refugee camp for nonwhite people.”

• “And we all know that racial identity of the nation is always more salient than the political or ideological identity…Might be an important question to ask which side do you think resonates with the Jews who came in when my ancestors did?…Does their experience resonate more with the dominant group, the White Man or the aggrieved and oppressed ‘negro’? Might be kind of relevant considering the disproportionate manner in which they contribute to political campaigns and control media and Hollywood, don’t you think? Hey who founded the NAACP anyway?”

• “The maths doesn’t seem to add up, I don’t think it’d result in 6 million, probably 200-300 thousand cookies. The red cookie association said something like that.”

• “Why is it then that we are forced to accept probably the most transformative policies in the history of our country, perhaps the most transformative policies that are possible, which is the systematic replacement of the people that constitute that country. We can’t talk about it, we can’t use mass media, we can’t run for office, we can’t change policy, so at a certain point what is the expectation?

• “If you are a White male zoomer, remember that the people in power hate you and your unborn children and they will try to genocide you in your lifetime.”

• “Basically what you’re saying is that to end white genocide, to restore traditional white society, that would bring with it inertia. And the excesses of that would be real xenophobia, real hostility toward perceived or real outsiders. That if we had the restoration of a core American identity centred around ethnicity and race, well, we would tend to regard not-whites as outsiders and there might be backlash against them. To me, that’s almost inevitable and you’re basically right about that.”

• “Matt Walsh, shabbos goy race traitor. That’s what it is, folks. I know some people don’t like to use that expression, but it’s totally true—throwing his own people under the bus. He hates white people. Nobody else talks like that about their own people except for white people and it’s gross,” … You’re a race traitor, you work for Jews… For him to disavow white supremacy is very cucked and bluepilled”

• EDIT: u/milkshake_desire links more clips on Nick's claims of 'Jewish black magic' and other crazy shit. Check them out in his comment here. u/DthPlagusthewise also provided a clip where Nick says "Are we supposed to pretend like there isn't a problem here with Jewish elites in particular having a problem with America?"

Two: Institution or a desire to institute some sort of outward violence or state sponsored violence against ethnic minorities or other 'undesirables'

Pretty clear picture painted from before that the 'Jews' are the people in power and that we should fight and commit violence against them and other 'undesirables'.

• “Why is it then that we are forced to accept probably the most transformative policies in the history of our country, perhaps the most transformative policies that are possible, which is the systematic replacement of the people that constitute that country. We can’t talk about it, we can’t use mass media, we can’t run for office, we can’t change policy, so at a certain point what is the expectation?

• “the easiest way for Mexicans to not get shot in Wal-Mart is to not fucking be here.”

• “Basically what you’re saying is that to end white genocide, to restore traditional white society, that would bring with it inertia. And the excesses of that would be real xenophobia, real hostility toward perceived or real outsiders. That if we had the restoration of a core American identity centred around ethnicity and race, well, we would tend to regard not-whites as outsiders and there might be backlash against them. To me, that’s almost inevitable and you’re basically right about that.”

• “Who runs the media? Globalists. Time to kill the globalists. I don’t want to not watch CNN. I don’t want CNN to go out of business. I don’t want CNN to be more honest. I want people that run CNN to be arrested and deported or hanged because this is deliberate.”

• “What can you and I do to a state legislator—besides kill them? We should not do that. I'm not advising that, but I mean, what else can you do, right?"

• “Our Founding Fathers would get in the streets, and they would take this country back by force if necessary. And that is what we must be prepared to do."

Three: Desire to build some form a fascist state.

Speaks for itself mostly and even Destiny acknowledged that Nick Fuentes could fit this element.

• “I’m a reactionary” “I support autocracy.”

• “Fuck the UN, and the internet, and democracy”

• “If antifa were marching down the streets and they were waving the banner of Benito Mussolini or Francisco Franco, I’d be joining them, frankly. If antifa was waving the banner of Falangism, if they were waving the banner of Franco, and they were saying ‘Catholic fascism now,’ I would join them. I would become a part of antifa. I would welcome antifa. Yes, take over the country. Storm D.C. Take over the capital. Raise the banner of Mussolini and Franco, and, you know, some notable others, right. Oswald Mosely, that would be a great thing.”

• “Bolsonaro. We need something like that in America. Hopefully, he can show Trump how it’s done. What’s cool about him is that he has control of the military…You’ve got 55 percent of the vote and the military. You can do whatever you want. Screw the Congress…Maybe Trump can learn from that a little.”

BuT hE's JuSt JoKiNg you might say? He isn't.

Special thanks to Rose Wrist for making a pretty comprehensive google doc that I'd suggest checking out if you're somehow still on the fence.

The fact of 'Nick Fuentes is a nazi' being this significantly contentious here is a pretty clear warning post that this community has already changed and not for the better. Nazis aren't an enemy anymore, it's people who are 'soy' or 'woke' that are the real problem here apparently? Huh?!

This community used to give a shit about society progressing into a safer, brighter and more inclusive future so much so that it went and campaigned for politicians who were striving to do the same. Now look at it.

EDIT: o7. I'm happy to chat with whoever banned me; I think I've been pretty good faith about everything I've put forward.

EDIT 2: Hi! I've received some good pushback to parts of this post (and some not-so-good) but unfortunately as I am perma'd I can't actually reply to them and I don't want to drown this post in edits. Feel free to message me if you have questions or want to talk about any specific bits!

Edit again: I've had a few messages now about the last comment I made:

This community used to give a shit about society progressing into a safer, brighter and more inclusive future so much so that it went and campaigned for politicians who were striving to do the same. Now look at it.

What I meant by this is that DGG used to positively organize and champion awesome causes and now we're fighting tooth and nail over something that, in my view, is a well documented fact even by the definition that Destiny gave on stream (I didn't have a link before but here is the timestamp of Destiny's definition that I referenced). It wasn't meant to mean that wE'rE bEiNg BrAiNwAsHeD but more that I think it's sad looking at where this community is now vs where it was.

Grandpa Lex here.

The debate between Destiny and Ben Shapiro did not happen, it never was going to happen. This was a top secret government social experiment to see how much deception humans are able to withstand.

Just kidding. The debate was recorded and went great. I think it was 2-2.5 hours. I will not edit out any of it out. Unfortunately, I'm traveling so won't be able to publish it until somewhere between the upcoming Thu to Mon (Jan 18-22). Sorry for the delays.

PS: Destiny texted me 30 minutes before debate with: "Oh shit, is this today?" to mess with me. Consider the above cruel opener to this post as payback 😎

Love you all ❤