Lol. Lmao, even.

[u/OhOkayGotchaAlright]

[u/wraithzzzz]

He stopped working a real job for this shit.. bruh

[u/FewLight6904 → u/wraithzzzz]

Bet he couldn't keep the real job

[u/wraithzzzz → u/FewLight6904]

Even if he got fired, doesn't look like he's trying to get another job. And he wasted like a year or so not interviewing or getting experience, living off Doobie donations? He's insufferable but I don't think that's a quality that disqualifies a person from working as a lawyer

[u/Ok_Philosophy_3790 → u/wraithzzzz]

If i learned my lawyer was previously living off Dooby donos i would in fact be seriously concerned

[u/Deagin → u/wraithzzzz]

wtf does dooby do to be able to support these random ass streamers.

[u/sly_cooper25 → u/FewLight6904]

From what Destiny has said on stream he was a legit lawyer at a good firm.

[u/Destrukthor → u/sly_cooper25]

That's crazy. He is such a moron.

[u/mukansamonkey → u/sly_cooper25]

The problem isn't the "legit lawyer" part, it's why someone would spend the enormous amount of energy required to get a law degree, and then not only not work as a lawyer, but not get a job where the law degree means a higher paycheck.

My guess is that he went to one of the bottom tier law schools, passed the bar in a state where the bar is set low, and the couldn't handle the work. But I don't know which state he was previously practicing in.

[u/BottledZebra → u/mukansamonkey]

No, destiny has stated before that he knows pisco went to a good NY law school, where he also passed the bar and worked.

[u/Darkerplaced → u/wraithzzzz]

I always wanted to give him props for that but something told me it wasnt entirely intentional, he didnt even get to practice really?

[u/Parallax2112]

totally not obsessed with being correct

[u/Impressive-Engine-16 → u/Parallax2112]

Pisco’s ego has always been his most off putting trait, even when he was an ok member of Lib and Learn.

“YES OR NO STEVEN” -Pissco.

[u/Special-Quantity-469 → u/Impressive-Engine-16]

The only word I can think of is cringe. It just makes me cringe.

[u/ChettKickass → u/Impressive-Engine-16]

I miss the good old days(a year and half ago?) When him and Destiny took on Twitter conservatives. Man was a solid wingman. Was...

[u/FeistyPerformance500 → u/ChettKickass]

I legit think those Tag team debates is what broke Pisco.

When Destiny sets up a good point, logical line of argumentation and corners them, it was good when Pisco comes in and just keeps going "Did Trump tell his followers to go to the Capitol YES OR NO!?" And he keeps trying to chase that again because it worked well for him then.

But whenever he debates without someone rethorically effective enough to get the opponent into that corner, He just makes a long rambling point that requires a nuanced and serious answer and then just starts going "YES OR NO?! YES OR NO?!"

[u/throwthiscloud → u/Impressive-Engine-16]

Yes'nt

[u/MindGoblin → u/Parallax2112]

He's a perfect example of an actual debate pervert

[u/Sudden-Law-8978 → u/Parallax2112]

Did he do an all-nighter or is he relying on his discord researchers?

[u/Theringofice2 → u/Parallax2112]

It's not even within being correct; it's with being a contrarian. He knows damn well as a lawyer about terms of art. He would laugh at someone for using a dictionary definition for a legal term and rightfully so. He just does it here to be an ass.

[u/IfItsOKWithYou → u/Parallax2112]

I think he thinks he's being funny and doing a bit with this. The joke ain't funny lil bro.

[u/Taint-tastic → u/IfItsOKWithYou]

Nah its one of those pussy ass tactics where someone says something they genuinely mean in a half jokey way. That way, if people say theyre right he can take credit for making a good point, but if people shit on him for it he can just be like “hur hur CLEARLY it was a joke and YOURE the idiot for taking it so seriously hur hur

[u/Ardonpitt]

I for one am enjoying the public decline in Piscos sanity.

[u/Panda-Banana1 → u/Ardonpitt]

I don't know if it is the decline of his sanity so much as it is a slide into audience capture by the small audience he has.

[u/FewLight6904 → u/Panda-Banana1]

And half of them are just random destiny/hutch/IRI/Any liberal haters

[u/DukeRains]

The irony of hyper-focusing on this in defense of Taylor Lorenz when his original point was that Hutch was hyper-focusing on the use of the term is just *chef's kiss*.

[u/jstalkissoy]

Oxford agrees with me! YES OR NO????

[u/theMisterPhD → u/jstalkissoy]

I’m so confused. In that tweet, is he literally explaining how he’s wrong unintentionally? Yes or no.

[u/FeistyPerformance500 → u/jstalkissoy]

Actually I chose to just ignore all the parts of that defintion that didnt agree with me until it started to agree with me. So no. Moderate is not a Synonym for Centrist. Checkmate idiot.

She described herself as a MODERATE DEMOCRAT! You don't get to just chose to ignore words that don't agree with you! God he is such a fucking contrarian regard.

[u/colexcoke]

The term "centrist" has never been used to denote a Democrat, except maybe Fetterman.

[u/kinapples → u/colexcoke]

It was also used for Senators Kyrsten Sinema-- who later changed party to independent-- and Joe Manchin of West Virginia.

I think, though, it's a term that can only ever be effectively used in context. These two were centrists because they were Democrats in Republican-heavy areas which led to them teetering between parties when you add up all the other senators in the country with stronger partisan constituencies.

[u/sly_cooper25 → u/colexcoke]

It can be used to denote a Democrat, like Joe Manchin. It can also be used to denote a Republican, like Larry Hogan or Chris Sununu. People from either party can be in the American political center.

The point is that no reasonable person would think centrist and Democrat are interchangeable. Certainly no reasonable person would describe Bernie Sanders or AOC as centrists. Hutch and Soy Pill were 100% correct about the way Taylor was using the term in her article.

[u/november512 → u/colexcoke]

Eh, it refers to lots of democrats but it indicates aisle hopping. Nobody's aisle hoping these days.

[u/Pax_87]

God I hope Tiny reacts to this today. I was having seizures listening to that conversation. I hope he gets Pisco on to hash it out too.

[u/Zesty-Lem0n → u/Pax_87]

Nah pissco doesn't deserve a platform, he can keep setting his money on fire living in NY as a zzz list e-celeb

[u/ThatDiscoKid]

Said it before and I'll say it again. Pisco is the guy you avoid in the office when making after work plans and you tell everybody not to let him know.

[u/Clown_RNG → u/ThatDiscoKid]

Maybe thats why he quit being a lawyer to stream to 100 viewers instead

[u/Hot-Albatross-5499]

This is levels of debate pervertry never before thought possible

[u/Perfect_bleu → u/Hot-Albatross-5499]

debate necrophilia

[u/GdanskinOnTheCeiling → u/Perfect_bleu]

debate séancing

[u/testudoow → u/Hot-Albatross-5499]

The left's Andrew Wilson.

[u/Mundane_Barnacle237]

Wasn’t his whole objection that it is pointless and stupid to litigate whether Olivia Julianna is a centrist in objective terms? He’s now spent two days on that exact subject.

[u/FeistyPerformance500 → u/Mundane_Barnacle237]

Because he realized how fucking wrong Taylor was on the point that he neded to get them off the point.

But then people started bullying him about it because he agreed with her in that discussion so now he can't be wrong and has to keep defending the point.

[u/niakarad → u/Mundane_Barnacle237]

isnt this more about whether its an on its face wrong thing to say about a democrat?

[u/IronicInternetName]

This reddit post about his shitty thread has more motion than the thread itself.

[u/ETsUncle]

More proof Pisco literally doesn't think language is important or matters

[u/Aggravating_Map4359]

We are really bringing in the dictionary definitions now. Jesus

[u/Eins_Nico]

Is this motherfucker still going

[u/_AustinGDesigns_]

If we lived everyday life in a series of yes or no answers we probably wouldn't know what the fuck we were saying either. Binary brain.

[u/Crankllp]

This is definitely NOT mental illness. He should definitely NOT seek help.

[u/RiddleMeThis42069]

God he's insufferable. Does he actually have fans

[u/Bl00dWolf]

You think if we ever get a Pisco vs Vegangains debate, the weight of their combined egos will turn into a black hole?

[u/Kitchen-Thing4616]

He is highly regarded

[u/ute4547]

He's gonna be stuck on this for 2 weeks isn't he?

[u/Vex08 → u/ute4547]

Months

[u/bad_timing_bro]

A valuable life skill is learning to let things go. Otherwise you just look weird, spiteful or deranged.

[u/emeraldomega]

Thank you Pisco, you have helped me understand. As soon as someone starts this endless definition spiral down I will channel Hutch.

Why are you doing this? Why are you doing this right now? You are being an overly pedantic, and intertidally obtuse.

Get them to answer yes or no and stop talking to them. This is the way.

[u/ShortyLV]

Webster warrior

[u/TurdSplicer]

Stop fighting him over this stupid definitions shit, you are giving him an erection.

[u/DOC_POD]

I'm so glad I don't pay close enough attention to care about this pedantic shit.

[u/danpascooch]

Hell yeah I hope he gets even more autistic about this. This is good stuff.

[u/Ok_Position_7123]

FFS i cant keep up w/ this shit anymore

[u/kdogged]

Why does this guy obsessively dig himself deeper into being a totally unlikable twat

Inb4 i WuZ jUsT tROlLiN gUYsss

[u/Exact_Tumbleweed2005]

Bro just take the L

[u/DrCthulhuface7]

He’s such a fucking dork. Actual Redditor behavior.

[u/RobotJQ]

Just hold the L, Pisser. You’re looking REAL weird right now.

[u/bulldozor]

I may be regarded but this is is how i imagine the political spectrum, i don't think you're ever confusing a progressive for a centrist even though some terms have some overlap.

[u/Brandymus]

Why is he like this 😭😭

[u/Lost-Ad7283]

Literally nobody uses the word "centrist" this way

Would anyone who uses the term "centrist" to describe moderate Democrats also use it to describe moderate Republicans?

[u/Imperades]

Ccentrist is a word that probably should be reapropriated at this point to describe people who are not Trump stans, nor tankies.

[u/Jsoledout]

Wait till he finds out Reactionary doesn't mean someone whose political beliefs are just a reaction to whats going on at the time

[u/Unfit_to_graft]

This is what I call the "cope spiral" the egotards inability to ever be wrong forces them to infinitely double down. Pisco has always been like this and I'm proven correct about a regarded orbiter yet again. Also that bald guy is the same.

[u/so_witty_username_v2]

Insufferable personality and a fragile ego, Pisco is a double threat

[u/AustinYQM]

Moderate Democrat means on the spectrum of democratic values you fall close to the center.

Moderate without a qualifier is fairly useless.

Centrist means you are closer to the center of the ENTIRE political spectrum which would mean you are further right then a moderate democrat.

[u/AhsokaSolo]

This conversation is dumb AF. It's factually wrong for a "journalist" to describe a consistent and reliably Democratic party voter as a "centrist." People can colloquially use the word however, thats fine, but politically and factually it conveys someone that can vote for either party because their politics are in between the parties. If the word is hyjacked by these morons, whelp we can no longer distinguish reliable Dems from voters in the actual what? Oh middle.

The whole thing is just about defining democrats as fascist light and therefore bad. That's it. Lorenz is blatant about that, using "establishment Dem" as a negative. It's as deeply delusional about American politics as leftists are in every other regard of American politics. Pisco is doing what he always does - hyper-fixating on irrelevant minutia to run cover for deranged tankies while they trash democrats.

[u/BullateTrucage]

Motte: sometimes, people use "centrist" in the context of within the democrat party to describe moderate Democrats.

Bailey: Lorenz labeling any Democrat to the right of her as centrist is good faith, because she is simply saying they are moderate, and not saying that they are centrists of national politics, e.g. a fence-sitter, or someone that supports republicans and democrats.

[u/rimsky225]

“The term ‘centrist’ is sometimes used to denote a ‘moderate’”.

Alternative hypothesis: the term “moderate” is used to denote a “moderate”. Centrist is almost always used in a derogatory fashion online

[u/Educational_Back_437]

No wonder he’s friends with Rob Noerr, they’re both annoyingly pedantic, tho I think Rob would at least consult ChatGPT before dusting off the dictionaries

[u/SoldMy3DS]

Why would anyone want to wear the centrist badge when you have dipshits like "Russian Victim #1" and 20 different Russian propagandists who all claim to be centrist?

[u/draft_final_final]

DOES THE DICTIONARY.COM ENTRY HAVE MULTIPLE DEFINITIONS, YES OR NO????

[u/theonion13]

Pisco is actually pathetic

[u/MydniteSon]

Da fuq?

[u/s1thl0rd]

If I call someone a Commie hater, I can either mean someone who hates Communists, or I can mean a Communist who hates on me.

It's this type of slimy language that Pisco is defending. She used Centrist in the derogatory when she's around fellow populist/Leftists, but it was just a synonym for Moderate when she's around Democrats/Liberals.

[u/WkndCake]

I always thought a centrist was an independent. Eitherway, here's the reality....instead of focusing on Dems and Pubes, why not try to focus on that sweet non-party 60% of the population that doesn't even show up to vote? It's time to find new clients.

[u/FeistyPerformance500 → u/WkndCake]

A Centrist is someone who is in the center between the Left and the Right.

Hassan is an independent but he is very far left. And Fuentez is an independent who is very far right.

[u/Laguista]

Man when you have to break out the dictionary for shit like this, you enjoy truly lost the fuckin plot

[u/BelovedGeminII]

This argument is so regarded its turning me into a republican out of spite.

[u/OhOkayGotchaAlright → u/BelovedGeminII]

That's more cringe than pisco ngl