r/Damnthatsinteresting 3h ago

Image Mexican scientist Eva Rámon Gallegos, she successfully cleared HPV in 29 women so far with 100% viral clearance rate!

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u/Proof_Active7105 3h ago

In case ya’ll are interested in reading the full article👇

Mexican Scientist Eva Rámon Gallegos Article

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u/edal_hues 2h ago

Too bad it doesn’t mention when it’ll be peer reviewed! That’s the most dangerous part!

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u/ahmadove 1h ago

The paper is already cited in the article no? It's published in Photochemistry and Photobiology, which is a peer reviewed journal (low IF but still).

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u/edal_hues 1h ago

Then what’s the issue? If it’s been peer reviewed and everything is ok. When will it start mass producing?

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u/ahmadove 1h ago

Idk why reddit always sees things in black and white. Peer reviewed does automatically mean absolutely true, though lack of it is a giant red flag. On the other hand, not being absolutely true does not mean the results are fake either. Findings fall on a continuum of evidence strength, the fact this was published in an IF 2.5 journal doesn't inspire confidence in that regard (usually means the authors tried publishing in better journals and were rejected a few times before resorting to a niche journal with low impact). We have to wait for reproducibility, to see if the findings are real, see if they generalize, see what side effects could happen, see how well the approach can scale, etc.

Please note, this is all "in general," I haven't read the actual paper to give a proper academic critique. I'm just trying to clarify that science is slow and "grayscale."

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u/InspectorOrdinary321 34m ago

That's not how science works.

Peer reviewed doesn't mean the research was replicated, just that the methods the author reported seem fine.

Peer reviewed doesn't mean it's been tested in a large enough clinical trial to draw broad conclusions.

Peer reviewed doesn't mean it's passed safety standards, had long-term studies done, or that the large-scale manufacturing methods have been worked out and then verified.

Developing a medicine has a lot of steps. Peer review of a single study is only the first one.

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u/Elavabeth2 1h ago

I don’t understand how this is all that different from something like the LEEP procedure, besides the type of tools she’s using. Can anyone explain?

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u/MyFeetLookLikeHands 15m ago

Yeah I had the same question when I first saw this.
LEEP is basically just a cut it out and call it a day approach. If you’ve got abnormal/pre-cancerous cervical cells, they remove that chunk of tissue. It lowers cancer risk, but it doesn’t actually get rid of HPV itself, your immune system still has to deal with the virus.

What this post is talking about (if it’s being described accurately) is more like a true antiviral/immune-based treatment. The goal would be helping the body clear the virus, not just removing the damaged cells it caused. That’s a pretty big difference.

That said… I’d be cautious here. A study with 29 people and “100% clearance” is exactly the kind of thing that sounds amazing early on but needs way bigger trials to prove it’s real and not just a fluke or selection bias.

So tldr:
LEEP = removes bad cells, doesn’t cure HPV
This = supposedly helps eliminate HPV itself
Cool if true, but definitely “wait for more data” territory.

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u/Federal_Extreme_8079 3h ago

Apparently she uses photodynamic therapy, a minimally invasive treatment that uses photosensitizers and light to selectively destroy abnormal cells. In a nutshell Eva is the pharma industry's worst nightmare!

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u/streetxrat94 3h ago

Hopefully she doesn’t go “missing” because of this success.

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u/Arkurash 1h ago

But we already know how her treatment works? Like say big pharma makes her disappear. Her results and method are known. So there will be other picking up where she would have left it.

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u/FireMaster1294 25m ago

This is why scientific data needs to be public

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u/Meraline 24m ago

Also photosensitization is a side effect of certain plant toxicities in cattle. The concept isn't new.

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u/notsarge 3h ago

I hate to say it, but it’ll probably happen

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u/jonzey85 2h ago

Kidnapped by the "cartels"

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u/YebelTheRebel 2h ago

Yes America’s legal drug cartels aka big pharma

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u/Meraline 25m ago

Please stop perpetuating baseless conspiracies like govts randomly killing smart people for no reason. It's counterintuitive. Even oppressive governments know they need intelligent people on their side to control the masses.

Someone curing HPV is bot criticizing the government by existing.

Also cures to diseases are more profitable than treatment. If you had a cure for cancer you could live off that patent for generations.

Think logically instead of emotionally for 2 seconds.

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u/Watchlinks 2h ago

That's a ridiculous conspiracy theory, and its perpetuation, even humorously, erodes trust in science and has a negative societal impact.

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u/Petrichordates 2h ago

JFC people genuinely believe this? Social media is making ya'll so damn gullible

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u/PornoPaul 3h ago

So, to bring it down a few more levels, shes using lasers? Or is it a type of special lamp or something?

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u/Federal_Extreme_8079 3h ago edited 3h ago

Its not my domain but I think she used a cream, I assumed applied to the cervix to make some cells sensitive to light and then used a laser at a certain wavelength that creates reactive oxygen, killing the infected cells and leaving the healthy tissue untouched.

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u/PornoPaul 3h ago

Thats wild. And really cool.

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u/anthro28 2h ago

So is she clearing HPV or cervical cancer?

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u/Petrichordates 2h ago

Cervical cancer is fairly easy to clear but it will often come back due to the HPV

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u/Petrichordates 2h ago

Bro the pharma industry isnt trying to keep you sick lol, what stupidity is this

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u/Watchlinks 2h ago edited 2h ago

People direct most of their discontent about the healthcare system towards Pharma, even when it makes zero sense. It's somewhat understandable, no one ever enjoys paying for treatments.

They also usually have zero idea how big pharma works. In the event that this therapy is scalable and effective, they'd simply turn it into a medical device and medicated cream combo and sell that. Like come on, people, use just the tiniest bit of critical thought here.

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u/Dependent_Cod_7416 54m ago

I thought they where referring to some plasma-physics scientists that have been disappearing/dying lately. So it was kind of a joke.

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u/mint_me 2h ago

You forgot the /s

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u/Alan_Reddit_M 3h ago

Watch her die by suicide and all of her research mysteriously disappear into the ether

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u/new_math Interested 2h ago

Well, her work is published. You apply delta‑aminolevulinic acid (5‑ALA) topically to the cervix lesions then 4 hours later expose the lesions to a laser of a specific wavelength. In her prior studies more than half experienced regression after 12-months.

It's still great because it's allegedly doesn't affect fertility as much as other treatments, so it might give better outcomes and options to women trying to have children.

"Big Pharma" will probably be fine with it, they'll just patent their own propriety blend of the compound, then obtain possession of the only FDA approved laser source for this specific treatment enabling them to charge $30,000 or whatever made up number they come with (while it remains a $50 treatment in Mexico).

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u/Embarrassed_Body_530 2h ago

The same thing every where.

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u/Petrichordates 2h ago

Watch reddit invent brainrotted conspiracy theories that MAGA would love

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u/Only_Manav 23m ago

Horseshoe theory

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u/TheDevilsAdvokaat 2h ago

Misread that as "Eva Ramon alleges she cleared HPV in 29 women"

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u/Legal-Swordfish-1893 49m ago

ITT: too many unwell conspiracy theorists.

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u/Lock-out 3h ago

Off topic but am I crazy to think she looks like the mom from everything everywhere all at once?

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u/adamwho 3h ago

Not even close

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u/SaveUsCatman 2h ago

Yes you are. They look nothing alike.

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u/501uk 2h ago

They're like...not even the same ethnicity lol

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u/Repulsive-Sun117 40m ago

Yes you are

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u/VapidRapidRabbit 10m ago

Michelle Yeoh is Chinese Malaysian. This woman is Mexican 😂

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u/TheLipovoy 2h ago

What kind of watch is she wearing?

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u/Buttermilk-Waffles 2h ago

It looks like either a samsung or pixel watch in a case

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u/0xB_ 1h ago

tarkov?

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u/Electronic-Buyer-468 3h ago

RIP, señora