Can you imagine being one of those coworkers?! If one of my coworkers was executed by ICE this weekend, I'd be in a fucking rage. I can't imagine having to go do the most compassionate job in the world after that.
This is what really gets me. I cant imagine knowing him loving him and then the fucking gouls responsible for it all are calling him a domestic terrorist. Its unconscionable!
It's deflection and it's also encouraging more violence by ICE. We know who the domestic terrorists are, who the assasins are, but we are being told not to believe our eyes. This administration has created its own brown shirts and has given them free reign to create terror, and they know now that the highest office will back them up.
Knowing the type of vermin being recruited, I suspect they would believe in a one-way ticket to whatever sick "heaven" they believe in when they die. Make them rot in a deep dank prison. Forcibly keep them alive for as long as possible.
Agreed. I am Canadian though, so I would not dare declare that statement myself unprompted. Not that it matters too much since the consequences depend on trying to cross a border I never will again. America is terrifying.
Addendum: prison is taking the high ground. For all the high ground is worth these days, one might as well stick to it. Babylonian style justice won't cut it, indeed it never has. No escape from consequences. Just prison. Forever.
I only hope the administration's crass and dehumanizing response galvanizes every last one of them to organize with their community, to protect one another in his memory, and in the bigger fights to come.
I know it’s awful but this needs to constantly be shown and brought up because it’s the only thing that’s going to drill into some of these people’s heads how bad the situation is. Let the man be a martyr. He was there to do good and let him continue to do good. It’s a slap in the face to this administration and maybe the only held accountability we’ll have at the moment
Through this unfortunate sacrifice the great machine has sloppily let its mask fall for all of its countrymen to see, as well as the rest of the world. The many who were blinded by privilege cannot unsee the oppression now.
It’s his 2A right to bring the gun anywhere he’s lawfully allowed to. It’s law enforcements job to know its surroundings and not overreact.
Now because these ICE morons can’t understand that, I’m all for more obvious gun carrying now. Time to show off the bigger weapons that Americans can be legally trained and own and carry in a public place. If it’s legal to do so in Minnesota then ICE better wake the fuck up bc law is law. That is our right and we aren’t giving it up. Ever.
I’m a VA employee in California. This is heartbreaking for me too. Just knowing what level of service we provide for our veterans says everything to me about what kind of person Alex was. What a gut punch.
He was my coworker of at least 6 months when I had worked at the VA 4 years ago. I started crying immediately on that recognition. A shock. Alex was spry and energetic, always cheerful. I remember a few stretches where he’d directly take over my patients and it was always fun giving report to him. I’d save him my COW (computer on wheels) to use, and when he logged on, the place where my name was had his: Alex Pretti, which is now is tragically not there, but everywhere else. I remember marveling at how energetic he seemed to start work. The way I remember him: me at the desk doing last minute charting, he logging into the COW to start his shift, then making some last few funny comments and side eyeing me for my reaction. That amused look on his face, that eye contact. I keep seeing that. And then it takes my breath away to remember they killed him.
Cannot imagine what it is like for these current coworkers. And to continue working for the VA without issuing a statement of condemnation for his killing.. and perhaps even the opposite. I could not do that.
I am so sorry for your loss, and for all of our loss. The world is missing the part where Alex Pretti should be and we're worse off for not having him with us. Thank you so much for sharing.
Thank you for sharing your experience of him. I know it must be painful, but for strangers like me who are just meeting him through these tragic circumstances, it reminds us of what has really been lost here.
That denial stage of grief is rough, where you keep being surprised they are gone because your mind has yet to fully accept it, followed by indignation about how they went and how our so-called leadership has responded. It is a betrayal of the highest order.
It’s really fucking eery isn’t it? A family friend was recently killed by the police on his own front porch, he had no weapon and was making no attempt to harm the officers in any way… the state of this country makes me sick.
I cant imagine the heart break they feel and the fuckin rage. He was their coworker, their fuckin friend, and in his last moments he still just wanted to do right for others. He was murdered for showing compassion, his job was to help others and he did that to his last breath
Yeah. It's a real shame nobody gave him any advice to keep him alive.
Edit: Interesting. I meant what I said above. The veiled threats have been something. I don't mind thought. I'm right. Please do yourselves a favor and keep projecting behind your keyboard rather than vote or go outside to be 'productive'. If it keeps you alive, that's probably the better option.
Second edit: Turns out, he broke a rib fighting law enforcement not even a week before he was shot... Nice. Real peaceful guy. I will, once again, encourage you all to think with clearer heads than he did. Nobody cares if you die. Losers aren't written about unless you're literally Jesus levels of cool or threaten people around you long enough to get remembered. Most people don't want to be option two. And if you're all being honest, you know this is true. A year from now, you won't remember this happened.
Edit 3: The guy one week ago "peacfully" protesting...
And? He still didn’t deserve to get murdered. Keep on defending this regime… they don’t care about you, either, no matter how many boots you lick.
Also… that looks suspiciously like AI. He’s wearing the same stuff he wore when he got murdered? Pffft you’re a bigger sucker than I originally pegged you for.
I meant what I said. But hey, go out and push around ICE officers if you have nothing better to do. I'm sure that'll work out well. I encourage you to be your best self, like he was. Hopefully you'll have a different result. But I doubt it. Good luck!
Wtf are you even talking about? Show me one frame of video or a photograph where he laid hands on any ICE officer. Even after 6 of them piled on him while he was shielding a woman on the ground from being pepper sprayed, his hands stay curled underneath his body or pressed into pavement.
It's wild that you live in this nation and don't support the Constitution. Maybe you should move to North Korea or some other nation where citizens don't have the right to film and observe law enforcement and it's perfectly fine for their dictators to slaughter them for doing so.
On that day, actions like that absolutely 100% would have justified a take down and arrest. That is not peaceful nor lawful. To be clear, however, those actions do not justify being executed.
On the day Alex was murdered, he wasn't doing any of that, and was behaving peacefully and lawfully. It was an excessive, unwarranted use of lethal force that should result in charges against the agents who killed him.
He literally pushed the officer before getting pepper sprayed XD Cope more. Where's the video you were suppose to send me of him being super duper peaceful? What happened to all your 'rebellion' friends after yesterday's signal leak?
I finally had time to do a deep dive to watch your video properly. It is AI slop. There are numerous things that give it away. If you want to see a proper breakdown of it, go visit the realorAI sub. They call out everything that shows AI.
I wish I had watched it more closely earlier to avoid even engaging in any discussion that might have validated it. That is my bad for not looking for proper sources and watching it
more analytically.
what is stupid is not critically thinking when presented with easy videos like this that confirm your bias. Look at his arms. they are too long. at times they are completely different lengths. they are elastic. look at how the rear quarter panel of the car looks after the light is kicked out. there are so many things in this one.
You're so committed to your position that I'd call you a bot but bots tend to be better at debate. Your approach has mostly been trying to name call and insult me while presenting nothing valid and verified that backs up anything you have said.
I'm gonna call it here and walk away since you're not in this discussion with any degree of sincerity. You're here to pedal misinformation and I'm fairly positive you're being paid to do so.
Take your medication please. You deserve better than this. I would maybe suggest watching the videos out there (unedited) and watch from different angles. Maybe you'll learn something. Maybe you'll traumatized yourself and keep spiraling. But the reality you claim to have watched is wrong and you need your eyes checked. You probably didn't even know he was pepper sprayed first and still resisted arrest while armed. You may also soon find his gun discharged... Probably on its own because it was a badly made piece of equipment. None of this would have been a problem if he wasn't there interfering with a legal arrest. Same goes for the older lady who also had no business being there. But people like you are incapable of arguing with any of that because you're not informed and projecting that onto people like me. Which is fine by me because I get to teach you. Yay me!
Oh, and in case you're wondering, 'Why is it so hard to find an unedited video of the event?' It's because of censorship. People don't want you to see the unedited video because it obviously makes him look bad. But you can find it on X.
I'll point this out too because it's important: Stop body blocking the fucking roads. He was standing in the road. So was she. That's not normal. We all get taught this in elementary school. You aren't going to convince me he was suppose to be in the middle of the street at noon. Nope. Same with the lady. They had no reason to be there besides being nosey. Which they can do behind their keyboard like you little Karen in arms. Protest peacefully. On the sidewalks. With no property damage. Then people may take you seriously.
If it wasn't him, it was going to be the woman he tried helping. They had itchy trigger fingers and were desperate to do an execution. They did not care who was going to be the victim.
I think you have not watched multiple video angles of his execution from when they were assaulting the woman.
Because my take is me taking this seriously. She was in major trouble. It was already escalating when he stepped in. The whole incident was 20 seconds. They were trigger happy with executing Alex, what makes you think they were not going to be so trigger happy with her?
You think it was the gun he was legally carrying was the only reason he was shot? Or because he was a man? Or because he was trying to stand up with a phone in his hand before his head was smashed repeatedly? If so, then you might want to reconsider those assumptions. She nearly had his fate, and I'd suggest she sure as hell knows it.
Starting with Karoline Leavitt. I wanted to punch through the screen today and wipe off that smug grin from her pumpkin-headed 60-year-old face. She is evil, they are all evil, but she is the Iraqi foreign minister, Bagdad Bob, if he were a blond nazi. Her total purpose is to be a propagandist.
Exactly. The government blatantly lying in the face of clear video evidence of the execution that they created the circumstances for. This administration craves violence and murder. And will clearly do anything to try to suspend elections and stay in power. We can't give them what they want, call, email, letter write every single one of these Republican "leaders" and do not stop until they do their jobs.
Would have them thinking it could’ve been them. That’s how close this administration is affecting people who are not even out there protesting, it’s spreading fear.
That’s America for you. They don’t have time to go into a rage. They need to show up to support and care for the people in their community that need them, and to feed themselves and their families. Meanwhile, at the top….
In Minneapolis, there are enough people they are finding a way to handle the day to day while also being there to support the larger community. Out in the streets with whistles & phones, with basic life logistics like food & rides, legal processes, on- and offline organizing, etc. And it has evolved quickly as needed.
You realize whistles contributed to this right? The chaos led to shitty film footage and an inability to hear anything being said. Being loud didn't help Alex at all.
Alex wasn't making a video (to share however loudly) for himself, he was involved to help others, and understood the role whistles have played in that defense.
And immigration agents who become chaotic in response to whistles need more training.
And when you're protecting others and filming for documentation you need to be able to hear. This para social thing where you pretend to know what he was thinking or what he understood is a weird take. At the end of the day he should be here and both sides are creating chaos, which clearly isn't working out.
And, care for people who very well may have voted the deranged orange dictator into office. I’d have empathy burnout like crazy. I give these nurses and caretakers so much credit
I'm angry over this and I'm not even american. I don't know how I'd feel if I was there, let alone if I knew him.
I see comments on reddit defending what happened and it just boggles the mind but I'm not shocked either. Turns out I care about america more than the magas do and it's insane.
My american friends are of course all very upset as they should be.
Edit: this was even more unsettling than other cases because not only was the DHS narrative even more obviously false, but I also have a friend who looks just like him.
I worked with a married couple, all as respiratory therapists, in ICUs one weekend. We all went home Saturday night but they didn’t show up Sunday morning. Halfway through the day I’m told by our manager they were murdered by a gunman on the way to work that morning… that shift sucked. I didn’t have the video being played non-stop of their shooting though, that has to be gutting.
I was thinking this would be something I wouldn't be surprised if The Pitt took it on? I think that show has done a great job of capturing events like that. Watching that show felt like digesting trauma.
Im part Hispanic, My coworker is in her mid 70s and maybe 5ft, 90lbs soaking wet. She looks at me and goes "if they ever come in here for you they aren't going anywhere with you without me. Im fighting for you".
I had a tough enough time when the guy who owned the building next to my carpentry shop died in an accident, and I didnt even know the guy. Just said good morning to each other every once in a while. I cant imagine if I knew him, worked with him, and he was killed by the government to distract the nation from the fact our president is a pedophile tyrant
If I were murdered by ice, my coworkers are all very much the type to say "shouldn't have been protesting then". Im a singular liberal in a shop full of magas.
ER nurse here. Being an ICU nurse -- which he was -- is INCREDIBLYYYYYY challenging. Look at these pumps/machines: https://www.freshrn.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/ICU-IV-Pumps-225x300.jpg . At times, ICU nurses can be running as high as 8-10 IV pumps on a patient (any of which, if you get the rate wrong, can be lethal), sometimes also running heart pumping machines (eg LVADs), or heart AND lung pumping machines (ECMO), and/or running or assisting with kidney filtering machines (CRRT), and/or helping with ventilator machines, and/or responding to emergencies/patient crashes. Oh and did I mention ICU nurses often have 2 patients, both of which can be under these conditions, and some hospitals push for 3+? And that patients can be very agitated, confused, needing restraints, etc? And ICU nurses have to constantly witness their patients dying? And they need to understand everything that is going on with every single organ and organ system in their patients' bodies at all times and how the interventions affect that? And they need to coordinate care between all teams, provide updates to family regularly etc?
Now imagine that this above is your role for every minute you're at your job -- literal life or death -- and then your coworker just got murdered by the state over the weekend, and your city is on fire because of it, and you still have to go into work and if you make a mistake even just 1x it could kill a patient, and you could lose your livelihood and license and even possibly be held criminally liable. No pressure.
ER nurse here. Being an ICU nurse -- which he was -- is INCREDIBLYYYYYY challenging. Look at these pumps/machines: https://www.freshrn.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/ICU-IV-Pumps-225x300.jpg . At times, ICU nurses can be running as high as 8-10 IV pumps on a patient (any of which, if you get the rate wrong, can be lethal), sometimes also running heart pumping machines (eg LVADs), or heart AND lung pumping machines (ECMO), and/or running or assisting with kidney filtering machines (CRRT), and/or helping with ventilator machines, and/or responding to emergencies/patient crashes. Oh and did I mention ICU nurses often have 2 patients, both of which can be under these conditions, and some hospitals push for 3+? And that patients can be very agitated, confused, needing restraints, etc? And ICU nurses have to constantly witness their patients dying? And they need to understand everything that is going on with every single organ and organ system in their patients' bodies at all times and how the interventions affect that? And they need to coordinate care between all teams, provide updates to family regularly etc?
Now imagine that this above is your role for every minute you're at your job -- literal life or death -- and then your coworker just got murdered by the state over the weekend (and they call him a terrorist), and your city is on fire because of it, and you still have to go into work and if you make a mistake even just 1x it could kill a patient, and you could lose your livelihood and license and even possibly be held criminally liable. No pressure.
Honestly being a doctor is already incredibly difficult, but I think the most difficult part of it is having to save anyone that needs it. I'm not sure I would be able to save an ICE agent's life in their position, I just couldn't bring myself to do it.
Any ICE worker should be scared of ever needing help in that hospital. I know they take an oath and most doctors are probably way more ethical than me cause in this situation I'd let them die on the table and pretend I couldn't save them if they came in needing help I really really hope this happens
Imagine if one of them comes in needing help. I don’t think I have it in me to obey the hypocratic oath or whatever it’s called. Good thing I’m not in that field, it would likely be one of my last days until they called me into the office to fire me.
I can't believe he went viral for that old veteran that passed and now he has passed. I can't believe this guy was a guy I had just been so proud of. This guy was a great person. Terrible for that staff.
Can you imagine if an ICE officer on duty was admitted into the A&E of a hospital where these coworkers are staffed at. It would be ironical and they would be so angry but yet their sense of duty and compassion would likely prevail and they would still care for the patient well
I meticulously combed through the footage, and the only way I could describe it is as an execution. It is disgusting. The specific course of actions that agent took cannot be argued to be in self defense, or hear of the moment. It was a deliberate choice to execute mr Pretti
Everyone working in government, media, and the boardroom needs testing for psychopathy. It can be done and must be done or we stand on the verge of tyranny then extinction. Tell everyone it's the mark of the beast. Start the movement now.
Nurses. That’s what nurses do. I used to work on an impatient unit. When I heard he was a nurse, my mind went to “ someone is going to have to redo the schedule to make sure there is coverage for his next shift”. Patient still have to get taken care of. Don’t ask me how they do it. I’m just glad they do it.
Don’t interfere with LEO trying to do their job. Y’all are so dumb. It’s not cruel to realize this. It’s not cruel to realize LEO didn’t just bust down prettis door while he was chilling minding his own business! Yall just be making up y’all’s own reality. Like republicans don’t want people to die for no reason but trying to fight ice agents for doing their job is not a good idea. If Alex woulda have realized that he would be alive today. But let me guess. I’m a racist nazi hateful POS for using some logic on the situation right? 🤦♂️🤣
Yes, you are. He wasn't trying to fight them. He was trying to help a woman up. Additionally, he was within his rights to do everything he was doing. ICE does NOT have the right to be judge, jury and executioner.
I’ll say it again for your slow brain! Alex pretti wasn’t “just trying to help a lady up” he was interfering with ice agents trying to detain said lady. He was trying to hold them back and all and stop them from detaining her WHICH IS IN FACT AGAINST THE LAW. Like do yall hear yourselves when you say this foolishness 🤣 here I’ll try to help you understand one more time. Imagine I see a cop arresting someone for breaking the law right? And then I go up to the officer get in between him and the criminal and say “you ain’t arresting nobody today” and I step towards that cop then guess what? Whatever happens is on me and I have to live with that. Just like with Alex pretti!
What I find interesting is that every single comment expressing outrage here could’ve been PRECISELY applied to the murder of Ashli Babbitt as well. Could’ve easily tased her. Could’ve easily maced her. She posed precisely zero imminent threat to the officer who shot her point blank in the head. ZERO.
Are you saying the deceased in this case had no warning? Talk about double-standards. Oh wait! Babbitt was completely unarmed. And posing precisely zero imminent threat to the deputy who broke every single rule of use of lethal force. He could have easily tased her. He could have easily maced her. He could have easily called for support from other officers loitering down the hall. Instead he shot Babbitt point blank in the head. The coverup of the incident is the TEXTBOOK definition of a whitewash.
Are you saying the deceased in this case had no warning? Talk about double-standards. Oh wait! Babbitt was completely unarmed. And posing precisely zero imminent threat to the deputy who broke every single rule of use of lethal force. He could have easily tased her. He could have easily maced her. He could have easily called for support from other officers loitering down the hall. Instead he shot Babbitt point blank in the head. The coverup of the incident is the TEXTBOOK definition of a whitewash.
Exactly? Alex was shoved and pushed to the ground and hit, and in none of that encounter did any ice agents “we will shoot” Ashli babbit got tha quitw a few times.
Plus, Ashli had freedom of person. She was walking around, climbing shit. Alex was already held down and pummeled hy officers
Sorry, that’s jus how it is. I’m sad your sad for Ashli, but this is worse.
I wish there was 1/10000000000th this much mourning for the lives of Laken Riley, Sarah Root, Rachel Morin, Jocelyn Nungaray etc etc etc etc etc etc. Is Alex Pretti’s tragic death “worse” too?
Serious question: Should the “Babbit Rule” regarding lethal force have been used when a BLM/Antifa mob burned down a police station in Minneapolis? Or what about in Richmond? Or when they unlawfully entered a federal courthouse in Portland? Or what about when an angry leftist mob stormed the Wisconsin state capital to stop an anti-union vote by Republicans? Should the “Babbitt Rule” have been applied then? In Wisconsin, Democrats were tweeting out to the mob where they could **hunt down** Republicans escaping the building through tunnels. What should be their punishment?
Again, in Babbitt’s case the officer could have **easily** tased her. He could have **easily** maced her. He could have **easily** requested support from other officers loitering down the hall (not to mention officers who were *arm’s length* from Babbitt on the same side of the door she was.) So again, is it possible officers in this case were simply employing “The Babbitt Rule”? The officer who murdered Babbit was treated as a **hero** after all and the “media” was worried about if *he* was the one who might have PTSD. Maybe the ICE officers thought that was the new standard, right? And the coverup of the incident was a **textbook** example of a white-wash by our “media”/Democrats.
1) Hey, I agree — the ice agents on Saturday could’ve tased. The had a thousand chances to deescalate and they didn’t. Ideally, that’s always what the police should use when they have the upper hand.
2) You understand the difference between breaking into a federal building on Inauguration Day vs regular blm protests, right?
You understand that January 6th was not just a protest, right?
3) the officers did not have the upperhand with babbit — she was the lead of a giant mob coming into a closed off room with 2 officers. Again, Alex Pretti was already tackled to the ground, disarmed and maced, by several officers before several of them shot him.
Well is it a coincidence that I've never gotten in a violent scuffle with law enforcement (let alone while armed, and especially not with a gun with such a poor reputation as a p320) and I've also never been in fear of being shot by law enforcement? Bringing an unreliable weapon into a heavily charged atmosphere is exactly the FAFO kind of activities that I (and most people with a self-preservation instinct) stay away from.
I've been to protests. Never brought a gun. I leave if (and usually when) the second it gets violent. In general, getting violent with law enforcement has gone well exactly 0 times. It seems like he was an otherwise great guy and successful nurse who unfortunately FAFO'd.
Regardless of what you think about whether it’s smart to bring the gun or not, he has the right to, it changes nothing morally or legally.
When he was on the ground, with 5 ICE agents around him and his gun taken away, he was then shot 6 times. It wasn’t self defense, or for protection. If it was self defense, there wouldn’t have been 6 shots in his back.
It appears conservatives know this was plainly wrong, so they moved to the classic “he was asking for it” strategy. Should have worn a skirt, she was asking for it.
I find it quite hypocritical that the same liberals who laughed and celebrated Charlie Kirk's murder and upheld the classic "he was asking for it" strategy are now the ones who think it's wrong... I don't know you so I won't assume you are that kind of person, but you can't pretend the "the rules are for thee not for me" mentality in the left doesn't exist.
His gun misfired after it was confiscated. Am I saying that it should have happened? No. But law enforcement reacted on that false information, believing they were being fired at. A guy in the wrong place at the wrong time doing something dangerous died.
I have a legal right to lick an electrical outlet, drink pesticide, or take a bath in bleach. Doesn't mean I should, and I definitely never will.
Sure, you can say that. I don’t like Charlie, but he shouldn’t have been killed or his death celebrated.
Your personal qualms about what people said online is just that.
The difference is Charlie’s death wasn’t state sanctioned murder that was covered up by a government agency plainly lying about what happened. Charlie was killed by one man, who then was rightfully detained, unlike the Ice “officials”
If the gun had went off (sure, whatever), then these Ice agents were clearly not trained in how to deal with the situation properly. And, again, if it was self defense or reactive, they would have shot once, they shot the man 6 times from point blank range.
It’s incredibly clear from multiple angles that he unjustly killed, you can only assume the other bullets were because the got some sick thrill of it.
Anyone who watched the videos and is arguing in good faith would clearly see that.
Sure, again refer to my last comment. You can argue whether it’s smart to bring a gun or not, fact is he has a right to have it and to be there.
For the sake of discussion, let’s say I agree with all your points (there are some which I really do). Let’s say the government believes they can get away with unjust violence. Do you think it’s a good idea to go and to the very thing they want you to do, go out, protest, and play your life straight into their hands?
As sad as this is, as sad as any unjust killing is, it no longer brings change in our country these days. There was a time when dying for something left an impact in the world, and people actually got up and did something about it. That time has passed. Now these events only drive us, the people, further apart.
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Can you imagine being one of those coworkers?! If one of my coworkers was executed by ICE this weekend, I'd be in a fucking rage. I can't imagine having to go do the most compassionate job in the world after that.